The Fall in Genesis is a Symbolic Definition of Death | Jonathan Pageau
Summary
TLDRThe script delves into the concept of death through the biblical narrative of Adam and Eve, emphasizing the transition from unity to multiplicity. It explains death as the loss of a unifying purpose, applying this to various levels of reality, including the physical, social, and ontological. The speaker uses the metaphor of dust to illustrate the process of becoming a living being and the subsequent disintegration upon death. The fall from grace symbolizes the beginning of separation, protection, and the loss of unity, highlighting the multifaceted nature of death beyond the physical.
Takeaways
- 📜 The script discusses the concept of death as a return to dust, referencing the creation narrative where God breathes life into dust.
- 🌟 It emphasizes that death is not just physical but applies to every ontological level, including relationships and societies.
- 🔍 The speaker suggests that the true understanding of death is often elusive and requires deeper exploration of its meaning.
- 💨 The difference between life and death is described as the difference between unity with purpose and multiplicity without unity.
- 🦴 The script uses the metaphor of dust to explain the transition from life to death, where dust represents disassociated elements without purpose.
- 🤲 God's act of gathering dust and infusing it with spirit is presented as the creation of life, highlighting the importance of unity and purpose.
- 🍃 The process of decomposition after death is likened to the loss of the unifying spirit, leading to the dispersion of elements.
- 🏥 Analogies are made to sickness and old age as processes akin to death, where the body's ability to move towards its purpose is compromised.
- 🌱 The script also extends the concept of death to non-physical entities like friendships, empires, and nations, where the unifying principle is lost.
- 🛡️ The need for protection, such as hiding secrets or defending against threats, is presented as a sign of separation and loss of unity.
- 👥 The fall of Adam and Eve is used as an origin story for death, illustrating the shift from unity to separation and the introduction of shame and hostility.
Q & A
What does the phrase 'from dust you are and to dust you will return' signify in the script?
-It signifies the biblical concept of human mortality and the cycle of life, where humans are created from the dust of the earth and, upon death, return to it.
How does the script describe the creation of man according to the second creation account?
-The script describes the creation of man as God gathering the dust of the earth and then blowing the spirit into it, thus giving life to a living being.
What is the script's explanation of death at different ontological levels?
-The script explains death as a loss of unity and purpose at every ontological level of reality, where elements that were once unified and moving towards a common purpose begin to disperse and decompose.
What is the difference between life and death as described in the script?
-The difference between life and death is the presence or absence of unity and purpose. Life is characterized by unity containing multiplicity, while death is characterized by multiplicity without unity.
How does the script relate the concept of death to the separation of elements in an animal's body?
-The script relates death to the moment when the spirit leaves the animal, causing the elements of the body to no longer cohere towards a purpose and begin to decompose.
What is the script's view on the relationship between death and the loss of purpose?
-The script views death as a state where a unifying principle or purpose is lost, leading to the dispersion of elements that were once held together towards a common goal.
How does the script apply the concept of death to other aspects of life, such as friendship or an empire?
-The script applies the concept of death to any situation where a unifying principle is lost, such as the end of a friendship or the fall of an empire, where the elements that made up the whole no longer have a reason to cohere.
What does the script say about the first thing that happens after the fall, as noticed by Adam and Eve?
-The script says that the first thing that happens after the fall is that Adam and Eve notice they are naked and feel the need to protect themselves, indicating a sense of separation and vulnerability.
Why does the script suggest that Adam and Eve had to protect themselves after the fall?
-The script suggests that they had to protect themselves because they were now separate from each other and from God, and the elements that were once in unity were now in a state of hostility and danger.
What is the significance of the concept of 'multiplicity without unity' in the script's discussion of death?
-The concept of 'multiplicity without unity' signifies the state of disintegration and loss of purpose that characterizes death, where the elements that were once part of a unified whole begin to separate and lose their collective identity.
How does the script connect the idea of dust to the concept of death?
-The script connects the idea of dust to the concept of death by describing dust as a mass of things with no relationship to each other, which is then animated by God's spirit. When life ends, the spirit leaves, and the elements return to their state of being like dust, dispersed and without unity.
Outlines
🌪 The Concept of Death and Unity in Life
This paragraph delves into the philosophical and theological understanding of death as a loss of unity and purpose. It starts with a biblical reference to God telling Adam that he is made from dust and will return to it, highlighting the creation of man from dust and the infusion of spirit. The speaker explores the idea that death is not merely the cessation of life but a process that applies to every level of reality, suggesting that it's the loss of a unifying principle that leads to disintegration. The paragraph also discusses how this concept of unity and purpose applies to various aspects of life, including the aging process and sickness, and how they are akin to death due to the breakdown of the body's ability to move towards its purpose.
🔗 The Analogy of Death in Relationships and Societies
The second paragraph extends the concept of death to relationships and societal structures, using the analogy of a friendship's end to illustrate the idea of death as the loss of a unifying principle. It discusses how the death of a friendship, an empire, a nation, or a company signifies the dissolution of what once held the elements together towards a common purpose. The speaker explains that when the unifying principle is gone, the elements disperse, leading to the potential for new relationships or structures. The paragraph also touches on the themes of protection, separation, and the emergence of hostility and shame as a result of this separation, using the biblical narrative of Adam and Eve's realization of their nakedness as a metaphor for this shift towards multiplicity and away from unity.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Dust
💡Spirit
💡Death
💡Unity and Multiplicity
💡Purpose
💡Separation
💡Protection
💡Identity
💡Shame
💡Communion
💡Ontological Levels
Highlights
The concept of returning to dust signifies a return to a state of disunity and lack of purpose.
God's creation of man involves gathering dust and infusing it with spirit, creating a living being.
Death is a misunderstood concept that applies to every level of reality, not just individuals.
Dust represents the disassembled state of elements without unity or purpose.
The difference between life and death is the presence or absence of a unifying principle.
Life is characterized by unity containing multiplicity, while death is multiplicity without unity.
The moment of death initiates a process of decomposition as elements lose their cohesive purpose.
The spirit's departure from an animal signifies the beginning of physical decomposition.
Death is part of life, though the full explanation is complex and not elaborated here.
Disease and old age are processes akin to death, moving away from the body's intended purpose.
The concept of death can be applied to various levels of reality, including relationships and societies.
The death of a friendship or marriage signifies the loss of a unifying principle in the relationship.
The death of an empire or nation is the loss of a common identity and purpose among its members.
The fall from grace in the garden represents the beginning of separation and loss of unity.
Adam and Eve's realization of their nakedness symbolizes the need for protection from what is outside their identity.
The need for protection indicates a shift from unity to hostility and separation.
The concept of secrets and keeping them from others represents a form of separation and hostility.
Transcripts
and then finally he ends his
pronunciation by saying that for dust
you are and to dust you will return
you'll have to you have come out from
the ground we have to return to the
ground and so the key for us in
understanding all of these statements is
in the last part is in the very end of
the statement where God says to Adam
from dust you are and from dust you will
return if you remember in the second
creation account God gathers the dust of
the earth and then blows the spirit into
the Dust and that is how God uh that is
how man becomes a Living spirit becomes
a living being um and
so you know when you look at that you
might at the outset think okay and then
they leave the garden it's like well if
God said that they would die why don't
they just drop dead you know why don't
they just eat the fruit and drop dead
and I think it's because uh people do
death is one of those things that we
think we understand but that we usually
don't have very good definitions for
that we don't totally understand what it
is that they're referring to and also to
understand the death is something that
doesn't just apply to a person but that
applies at every level every ontological
level of reality that there's an
analogies to what death death is at
every ontological level and this is of
course what's going on here is that all
the elements are trying to help us
understand what death is we have a kind
of origin story for death um and like I
said the clue is in the idea of dust so
the the idea is that now you will become
dust now what does it mean to become
dust first of all what is
dust uh dust is basically an amass of
things that have no relationship with
each other right that's what dust is the
difference and then God gathers the dust
together all these disperse elements and
then he puts a spirit in it he puts a a
a a breath in it he puts a heaven inside
he puts a name inside he puts meaning
inside he puts purpose inside he puts
all the things that are invisible
patterns that legislate uh disperse
elements he puts that in this Gathering
of dust and now the dust is animated now
the dust is now is no longer dust but is
is one being even though it's still made
of dust and so this is the difference
between life and death the difference
between life is death is the difference
between Unity which contains
multiplicity and multiplicity which no
longer has unity bringing it together
that is the difference between life and
death and so the difference if you like
in the in the most mundane way the
difference between a live animal and a
dead animal is the difference
between all these different elements in
an in an animal that are moving towards
the purpose purpose of survival the you
know the purposes that animals have and
then all the a sudden something happens
to the animal now the breath leaves
right the spirit leaves the animal in
the Bible it says we don't know if it
goes up or it goes down but let's say
the spirit leaves the animal and now the
elements of the
animal no longer cohere completely
towards purpose and that's why they will
start to decompose the elements will
start to break apart from each other it
takes time but at the moment of death
that process has already become there's
a mystery by which death is actually
part of uh of life but that would be too
complicated to talk about that right now
but uh the idea of something that is
dead is something that has lost now its
unitary purpose now this is the best way
to understand what death is and it can
be applied at different levels of
reality so if you understand that that
is what it means for you to die so when
you die your body now is still there but
it starts to decompose because there's
nothing holding it together towards
purpose so you can understand then that
all the things that move you away from
your purpose are Akin at least to death
that is sickness for example when your
body is breaking down and is not capable
of of properly moving towards its
purpose then that is a process of death
old age when you get older and your body
starts to to to wither and it no longer
easily moves towards the purpose that
you have for the body then that old age
is also akin to death now it's not
arbitrary that both death both disease
and old age do lead to death in the in
the absolute sense like in the sense
that now there really is this complete
separation between the reason the spirit
the unifying principle and the and the
disperate elements and you can see the
process all along but that is this is
what it is that you're supposed to
understand but now you can also apply to
anything that has commonality and so you
can say
that you can say you know with a true
analogy you can say well the death of my
friendship with this person and so what
is the death of my friendship with this
person means it's not like you know we
don't cease to exist like me and Bob we
were still there so what does it mean
for our friendship to die it means that
the thing that bound us together that
created a third reality which is our
relationship which is the communion of
us together is now gone and because of
that now Bob and I are going our
separate ways you know if you say the
end of the death of an Empire the end of
the death of a Nation that's the same
thing the things that are that made the
Empire is still there right the res
remainders of the buildings the matter
the the people are there but what
happens is now they no longer have a
reason in order to join together and to
participate in a common identity it's
true for for the death of a company for
the for the for the death of anything
that you can imagine that has a unifying
principle holding it together towards
purpose and then that principle going
away the elements now disperse and
become something like food for something
else they become potential for other
beings so you know it's like if I'm no
longer friends with Bob I can still be
friends with some someone else and so
that you know like let's say friendship
is complicated against multiple let's
say I'm married to someone and then I
get divorce and that's the death of our
marriage but now I become potential for
another relationship that I can engage
in and that's true for Nations it's true
for companies etc etc okay and so this
is what dying means and this is what
begins to happen at the fall and so all
the elements that are there in the story
are there to show that and so what's the
first thing that happens the
the Adam and Eve noticed that they're
naked
and that they have to protect
themselves and so why do you have to
protect yourself from something you have
to protect yourself from something
because it's not you it's not part of
you you know you have to protect your
something because it is hostile to the
identity so a company has to protect
itself from spies from the other company
because they're that those spies are
hostile to the purpose of the company a
being has to protect himself from being
hurt from uh being from someone you know
hitting them with a sword or whatever it
is that you have to do that is the
nature of protection the nature the
nature of of having to separate
yourself in an act of protection from
someone else is an image of Separation
it's an image now of Multiplicity that's
losing its unitary function so before
that Adam and Eve were naked but they
didn't have to protect each other they
didn't have to protect each other from
each other and they also didn't have to
protect each other from God there was
Multiplicity but that multiplicity was
moving towards communion and unity and
now the multiplicity is moving away from
communion and unity and is becoming
hostility is becoming uh danger is
becoming shame is becoming uh secret all
of these things are you know why do you
have to keep a secret from other people
you have to keep a secret you have to
keep a secret because the people that
don't know the secret are outside from
you so you have this separation between
inside and outside which is now
formulated as a form of hostility
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