The History of Cocaine and Why It's Illegal with Dr. Carl Hart

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12 Jan 202109:44

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the history and legality of cocaine, contrasting its availability and quality in Colombia versus the U.S. It debates the irrationality of drug laws, referencing the early use of cocaine in Coca-Cola and the racial biases in drug prohibition. The conversation also touches on changing perceptions of drug use in popular culture, as seen in a recent movie, and the potential benefits of legalizing and regulating drugs.

Takeaways

  • 🌎 The speaker discusses the difference in quality and price of cocaine when sourced directly from countries like Colombia versus when purchased in cities like New York.
  • 🚔 There is a rational fear of arrest associated with using cocaine, but the speaker argues that the irrationality lies in arresting people for what they choose to consume.
  • 🍾 The speaker contrasts the legal availability of alcohol, which can be lethal, with the illegality of cocaine, highlighting a double standard in societal attitudes towards substances.
  • 📚 Cocaine was initially introduced to the U.S. in the late 1800s and was even included in early formulations of Coca-Cola, showing a historical shift in its perception and legality.
  • 🏙️ The speaker mentions that cocaine was initially available primarily to white people, and its association with black people in the early 1900s contributed to its eventual ban.
  • 🎬 The speaker criticizes Hollywood for perpetuating negative stereotypes about cocaine users, often depicting them as ruthless, ambitious, and self-centered.
  • 🌟 The speaker appreciates the portrayal of cocaine use in the movie 'The King of Staten Island,' where the character is not demonized for his drug use, challenging the typical narrative.
  • 🌿 The speaker admits to using marijuana and enjoys the introspective and sometimes paranoia-inducing effects, finding them beneficial for personal growth.
  • 💊 The speaker suggests that technology exists to test the purity of drugs, but the taboo nature of drug use prevents its widespread implementation for public safety.
  • 📖 The speaker is open about his own drug use in his book, aiming to change the stigma and show that responsible people also partake in such substances.

Q & A

  • What is the speaker's perspective on using cocaine?

    -The speaker views cocaine use as something that can be enjoyed responsibly, especially when sourced from its origin countries like Colombia, where it is cheaper and purer than in places like New York.

  • What is the price difference between cocaine in Colombia and New York according to the speaker?

    -The speaker mentions that cocaine in Colombia costs about seven dollars a gram, whereas in New York it could be anywhere from 60 to 100 dollars a gram.

  • Why does the speaker believe people might be paranoid about using cocaine?

    -The speaker acknowledges that there are rational reasons for paranoia, such as the risk of arrest, but also points out that the irrational fear comes from societal taboos and the stigma associated with drug use.

  • How does the speaker compare the legality and accessibility of alcohol to cocaine?

    -The speaker points out the irony that one can easily buy enough liquor to kill oneself at a store like CVS, yet people are arrested for what they put in their bodies, implying a double standard in the legal treatment of substances.

  • What historical context does the speaker provide about cocaine in the United States?

    -The speaker explains that cocaine was introduced to the U.S. in the late 1800s, initially used in products like Coca-Cola, and was later banned in 1914 largely due to its association with black people.

  • What was the initial purpose of adding cocaine to Coca-Cola according to the speaker?

    -The speaker states that John Pendleton, the creator of Coca-Cola, initially added cocaine to the beverage as a stimulant, but had to reformulate the drink when alcohol was banned in Atlanta.

  • How does the speaker describe the societal narrative that led to the banning of cocaine?

    -The speaker suggests that the banning of cocaine was influenced by its association with violence and black people, rather than its pharmacological effects, indicating a racially biased response.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the portrayal of cocaine use in popular culture?

    -The speaker criticizes the stereotypical portrayal of cocaine users in Hollywood as ruthless, ambitious, and self-centered, and appreciates the movie 'The King of Staten Island' for showing a more nuanced view of cocaine use.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the potential benefits of using marijuana?

    -The speaker enjoys marijuana for its ability to induce paranoia and introspection, believing that it can lead to personal growth and learning, despite the discomfort it might cause.

  • What solution does the speaker propose to address the issue of drug purity and safety?

    -The speaker suggests that technology could be used to allow people to submit small drug samples and receive a chemical composition readout, which could help ensure the safety and purity of substances like cocaine.

Outlines

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🌟 The Jurgen Experience: Responsible Adulthood and Cocaine

In this paragraph, the speaker discusses their perspective on the use of cocaine, emphasizing that they are a responsible adult at 54 years old. They differentiate between high-quality cocaine sourced directly from countries like Colombia and the adulterated product found on the streets. The speaker highlights the economic disparity in cocaine prices between Colombia and New York, noting the superior quality of the former. They also touch on the irrationality of arresting people for drug use, comparing it to the legal availability of alcohol. The historical context of cocaine's introduction to the United States is explored, including its initial presence in products like Coca-Cola and the subsequent ban due to racial associations. The speaker argues that the demonization of drugs like cocaine is more about societal narratives than pharmacological facts, and they celebrate the portrayal of cocaine use in the movie 'The King of Staten Island' as a more nuanced representation.

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🎬 Hollywood Stereotypes and the Realities of Drug Use

This paragraph delves into the common Hollywood stereotypes about cocaine users, painting them as ruthless, ambitious, and self-centered individuals. The speaker expresses a desire for a change in these portrayals, highlighting their own willingness to try cocaine responsibly. They contrast this with their preference for marijuana, which they find beneficial for introspection and personal growth despite its potential to induce paranoia. The speaker also suggests that broadening one's experience with different drugs can be enriching, but cautions about the risks associated with obtaining impure substances. They propose a solution involving technology that could allow people to test the purity of their drugs, but lament the societal taboo that prevents such measures from being implemented. The speaker concludes by sharing their own experiences with drug use, aiming to challenge the stigma and promote a more balanced view of drug users as responsible individuals.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Cocaine

Cocaine is a powerful stimulant drug derived from the coca plant. In the script, it is discussed in the context of its varying quality and legality. The speaker mentions the difference in price and purity between cocaine sourced directly from Columbia versus what is sold in New York, highlighting the theme of drug quality and its implications for users. The script also touches on the historical and racial biases associated with cocaine use and its prohibition.

💡Responsibility

Responsibility in the script is used to convey the speaker's self-awareness and maturity in their approach to drug use. The speaker asserts that despite being 54 years old, they are a 'responsible grown-up' who knows what they are doing, suggesting a nuanced view of drug use that contrasts with common stereotypes. This concept is central to the video's theme, challenging the simplistic portrayal of drug users.

💡Paranoia

Paranoia is mentioned in relation to the use of cocaine, indicating a common side effect of the drug that can lead to irrational fears or suspicions. The script discusses how this paranoia might be rational in the context of fear of arrest, but also points out the irrationality of arresting people for what they consume. This term is used to explore the psychological effects of drug use and the societal reactions to it.

💡CVS

CVS is referenced as an example of a place where one can legally purchase alcohol, which can be as harmful as drugs like cocaine. The speaker uses this example to highlight the inconsistency in societal attitudes towards legal and illegal substances, emphasizing the arbitrary nature of what is deemed acceptable or dangerous.

💡Prohibition

Prohibition in the script refers to the historical ban on the production and sale of alcohol in the United States during the 1920s. The speaker connects this to the banning of cocaine, suggesting that societal fears and biases, rather than pharmacological properties, drive the prohibition of certain substances. This term is used to explore the historical context of drug laws and their impact on society.

💡Coca-Cola

Coca-Cola is mentioned in the script as an example of how cocaine was initially used in a popular beverage. The speaker discusses the historical use of cocaine in Coca-Cola and its removal following the banning of alcohol in Atlanta, illustrating the changing social attitudes towards drugs and their commercial use.

💡Racial Bias

Racial bias is a key theme in the script, discussed in the context of the prohibition of cocaine. The speaker suggests that the drug was banned in part due to its association with black people, highlighting the role of racial prejudice in shaping drug laws. This term is used to critique the discriminatory nature of drug policies.

💡Hollywood

Hollywood is mentioned as a source of stereotypes about drug users, particularly in relation to cocaine. The script critiques the portrayal of cocaine users as seedy, ruthless, and self-centered, arguing that this representation is unrepresentative and harmful. This term is used to discuss the influence of media on public perceptions of drug use.

💡Pete Davidson

Pete Davidson is referenced in the context of his movie 'The King of Staten Island,' where he plays a character who uses cocaine without being portrayed negatively. The speaker appreciates this as a departure from typical Hollywood narratives, suggesting a more nuanced and realistic portrayal of drug use in popular culture.

💡Marijuana

Marijuana is discussed as a drug that the speaker enjoys for its ability to induce paranoia and introspection. The speaker contrasts this with the euphoric effects of cocaine, highlighting the personal preference for drugs that challenge and teach rather than simply provide pleasure. This term is used to explore the diverse effects and uses of different drugs.

💡Taboo

Taboo is used to describe the social stigma associated with drug use, particularly cocaine. The speaker argues that this taboo prevents open discussion and rational policy-making around drugs. The term is used to critique the societal attitudes that contribute to the harmful effects of drug prohibition.

Highlights

The speaker discusses the quality and price differences between cocaine sourced directly from Columbia versus what is sold on the streets of New York.

The irrationality of arresting people for what they consume is highlighted, with a comparison to the legal availability of alcohol.

The historical context of cocaine's introduction to the United States and its initial use in products like Coca-Cola.

The banning of alcohol in Atlanta prior to nationwide prohibition and the subsequent formulation changes in Coca-Cola.

The racial dynamics and societal perceptions that led to the criminalization of cocaine, particularly its association with black people.

The speaker's personal stance on the potential benefits and risks of using cocaine responsibly.

The portrayal of cocaine use in popular culture, particularly in the film 'The King of Staten Island', which challenges stereotypes.

The contrast between the common Hollywood depiction of cocaine users and the speaker's own experiences with responsible drug users.

The speaker's advocacy for broader drug education and the potential benefits of legalizing and regulating drugs like cocaine.

The idea of using technology to allow people to test the purity of drugs they purchase, suggesting a safer and more informed approach to drug use.

The societal taboo associated with admitting to drug use and the speaker's efforts to change this perception.

The speaker's personal experiences with drug use, including his openness about using heroin and cocaine.

The speaker's belief in the importance of disrupting the harmful mythology surrounding drug use perpetuated by media and Hollywood.

The speaker's preference for drugs that induce introspection and personal growth, such as marijuana, over those that merely provide euphoria.

The discussion on the potential for drugs like cocaine to enhance experiences with a significant other, beyond just fear-inducing substances.

The speaker's call for a broader repertoire of drug experiences, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of their effects.

The speaker's concern about the quality and safety of street drugs, suggesting the need for regulation and testing.

Transcripts

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the jurgen experience

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but again i'm a responsible grown-up

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right i'm 54 years old and i know what

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i'm doing um so when we think about

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something like cocaine cocaine

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not the [ __ ] that people sell on the

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street that's been stepped on so like

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when you go to places like columbia and

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you go to the source and you get really

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good cocaine

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like columbia cocaine is about seven

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dollars a gram whereas in new york it

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could be anywhere from 60 to 100 a gram

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um

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and not as good as a product in columbia

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so you go to the resource countries and

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you get good stuff

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um

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it could be a really good evening with

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you and your significant other you know

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and um

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um

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all of these sort of stories of people

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being paranoid

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about the cops with cocaine there are

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reasons to be paranoid if you're doing

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something wrong

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there so i get that i mean so i'm also

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worried about being arrested that's what

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i'm talking about yeah that's what's

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exactly what i'm that's exactly what i

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mean so there's a reason to that's a

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rational sort of thing

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uh but what's irrational is that are

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arresting people for what they put in

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their bodies yes agreed yeah agreed

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wholeheartedly i mean i always point out

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that you can go to cvs and buy enough

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liquor to kill yourself absolutely 24 7

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all day long absolutely it's so easy to

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do absolutely yeah so but when we think

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about cocaine and why it's illegal

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cocaine came to the united states

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in a pot for the popular masses in the

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late 1800s

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and coca-cola this guy john pendleton i

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think his name was he put it in

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coca-cola well this product a cocoa wine

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uh and he was out of atlanta

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and

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uh he put it in cocoa wine in

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1894

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the next year atlanta banned alcohol so

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before prohibition

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alcohol was banned in orlando for

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prohibition just atlanta just atlanta i

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mean cities interesting various cities

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banned this

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prohibition happened in 1920

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nationwide

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so since they banned

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alcohol in atlanta he had to come up

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with a new formulation

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and he and so what he did was tuck the

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alcohol out added carbonated water and

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sugar then you have coca-cola what that

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that's this is how coca-cola this is how

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coca-cola was

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made and he put it in the soda fountains

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so they sell that pharmacies at the soda

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fountains and they were for whites only

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so cocaine was used was typically

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available only to white people at that

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time but then in

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i guess maybe

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1899 early 1900s coca-cola began

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bottling the products now it's available

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to black people

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and now you start to get these

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the connection between violence and

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cocaine use among black people

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and

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this sort of

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narrative grew and grew

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um to the point where we banned cocaine

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effectively in 1914 largely because of

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his association with black people using

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the drug a similar thing happened with

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opium and the chinese that's the real

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reason

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that those drugs are banned not because

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of pharmacology you know what i'm saying

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yeah now that's not to say that people

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can't get in trouble with these drugs

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because people do you know just like

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they can get in trouble with alcohol

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that's right that's right but the only

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stories that we tell about cocaine

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is the one where people get in trouble

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yes but i gotta tell you

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uh recently i watched uh

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pete davidson's movie what was that

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the king of staten island i think it is

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it was

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the first time in a popular movie where

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um

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the a hero

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uh used cocaine and he was still a hero

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so you might remember the scene where

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steve buscemi and uh i think bill bird

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they were talking about they didn't see

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the movie oh it was a great start was

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great a great scene where they were

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talking about

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pete's dad and pete's dad

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had used cocaine previously

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and

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pete didn't know this

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and

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but it was just a matter of fact the guy

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used cocaine he liked his cocaine

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but he was still the good guy he was a

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fireman he was a hero he was all of

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these things and they didn't besmirch

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him for using cocaine it's one of the

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few times that you see in popular

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culture that somebody uses something

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like cocaine

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and they're not besmirch they don't have

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they don't go down this path of becoming

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an addict and losing all of their

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possessions because of the drug yeah and

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so i thought like

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they're doing something here that's

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different and then that was really that

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was a great scene yeah most of the

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stereotypes about cocaine in hollywood

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are you know people using people

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seedy people people that have no

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compassion for each other ruthlessly

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ambitious people doing coke and just all

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full of themselves and high on

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themselves and i'm gonna take over this

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[ __ ] town

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that's what you you hear and see

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you know yeah um

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yeah i hope that changes man i know yeah

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well i mean uh i i would try it with you

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yeah i would try it yeah all right

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especially listening to you and knowing

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you probably get the real [ __ ] yeah i

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just uh i avoid things that make me

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confident i'm not interested in that i'm

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confident enough i'm plenty confident i

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like things that scare me that's why i

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like marijuana so much i do i do people

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think i'm kidding i'm not i i like the

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paranoia i like freaking out because i

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always come out of it at the other end

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with some sort of a lesson because i

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think sometimes um

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we can shield ourselves from things that

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are we're really worried about or shield

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ourselves from concerns that we have or

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even from

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ruthlessly introspective thoughts that

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come with uh high doses of marijuana and

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that's the thing that freaks a lot of

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people out i find them very beneficial

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some of the best moments i've had

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personally

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are after some of the wildest trips

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where i was like boy this is rough and

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it but at the end when it's over i come

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out feeling so much better i i feel you

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i mean that's great i mean because you

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know um

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that's useful uh you feel like you're a

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better person that's cool but sometimes

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you just want to

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be euphoric and just enjoy your

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significant other sure i mean you know

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what i'm saying so and and so cocaine or

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some other drug

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might be useful for that and so it's not

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like you have to have only that

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experience that frightens you and then

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you become a better person that yeah at

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the end of it

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um i'm all for that that's fine you got

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that um

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um but i would just say

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broaden your repertoire that's it the

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problem is like yeah

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if it was legal it'd be great like you

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could get pure cocaine and you knew what

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you were getting but if you're getting

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cocaine in austin texas you're probably

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getting it from some sketchy dude yeah

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who is also selling a bunch of other

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[ __ ] and yeah i mean i'm imagining i've

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never tried to buy it yeah but you know

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um

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two things here

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um

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we got the technology to

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put on the streets where people can

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just submit small samples of their drug

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10 milligrams which is nothing

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and then they get a chem they get a

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readout of the chemical composition of

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their drug right we have that technology

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if the public would put pressure on

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their officials to make sure that it's

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available to people where they can

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submit their drugs small samples of

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their drugs free and anonymously

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uh and then they get this readout the

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problem is it's so taboo

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like if you even admit that you do

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cocaine people are like look at this guy

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who's ready to ruin his [ __ ] life

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barely hanging on over there carl look

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at you doing cocaine this is why in the

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book i admit my heroine use my cocaine

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use all of my drug use so

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i'm trying to change that image because

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i have met

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people all around the world

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some politicians and so forth and got

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high with these people

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of course i won't say who they are

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but

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the vast majority of people who use

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these drugs

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are people who are responsible take care

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of their families they care about their

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communities they do all this sort of

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stuff but

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hollywood and the media and the

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mythology is so powerful in

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showing only this one image yes um and

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i'm trying to really disrupt that

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because it's it's so harmful to so many

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