What is the BEST road bike money can buy if you want to get SUPER LEAN & FAST?

durianrider
30 Sept 202411:20

Summary

TLDRThis video script discusses the drastic price changes in the cycling industry, comparing bike prices from the past with today's market. The speaker, a seasoned bike buyer and seller since 2003, emphasizes the importance of determining personal goals when purchasing a bike. He advocates for rim brake bikes due to their simplicity, performance, and ease of maintenance over disc brake bikes. The speaker also critiques the cycling industry's marketing tactics, while offering insights on how to save money on bike purchases and prioritize a bike that enhances the riding experience.

Takeaways

  • 💰 The speaker wants to help viewers save thousands of dollars on their next bike purchase.
  • 🚴 The price of new bikes has skyrocketed, with models costing up to $20,000 AUD today compared to much lower prices 10 years ago.
  • 🔧 The speaker emphasizes the importance of buying a bike that you will spend more time riding than fixing, suggesting simpler rim brake bikes over more complicated disc brake models.
  • 🏆 The main goal should be performance and fitness, not social approval or expensive aesthetics.
  • 🛠️ Rim brake bikes are easier to maintain and repair, making them a better choice for serious cyclists who want a reliable ride.
  • 📉 The speaker criticizes the bike industry for pushing expensive new models that aren’t necessarily better, driven by marketing rather than performance.
  • ⚙️ Cyclists should prioritize getting a bike that is fun to ride, low maintenance, and built for performance, rather than following trends.
  • 💸 The speaker recommends buying used bikes, which can offer great value, instead of overpaying for new, overpriced models.
  • 🤔 Riders should ask themselves what their goal is with their bike purchase, whether it's fitness or seeking approval from others.
  • 🚫 Pro cyclists are used as marketing tools by the bike industry, and the switch to disc brakes in professional cycling was largely driven by sponsors rather than rider preference.

Q & A

  • What is the speaker's main goal in the video?

    -The speaker aims to help viewers save money on their next bike purchase by sharing insights into the bike market, including pricing trends and maintenance tips.

  • How has the price of high-end bikes changed over the past decade?

    -According to the speaker, high-end bikes like the Dura-Ace models have increased significantly in price. For example, a bike that cost around $6,000 AUD in 2013 now costs about $20,000 AUD in 2024.

  • What factors should a person consider when choosing a bike according to the speaker?

    -The speaker suggests that people should consider their goals, such as fitness, performance, and ease of maintenance. They should aim for a bike that they will spend more time riding than fixing, which is light, durable, and easy to maintain.

  • What does the speaker think about bikes with disc brakes versus rim brakes?

    -The speaker prefers rim brakes for road bikes due to their simplicity, ease of maintenance, and lighter weight. They feel that disc brakes are overcomplicated and mainly promoted due to marketing and industry pressures.

  • How does the speaker view the bike industry’s promotion of disc brakes?

    -The speaker criticizes the bike industry for pushing disc brakes on riders, suggesting that pro cyclists are forced to use them due to sponsorships, even though they prefer rim brakes.

  • What analogy does the speaker use to describe buying a bike?

    -The speaker compares buying a bike to choosing a long-term partner, emphasizing low mileage, easy maintenance, and long-term enjoyment over flashy appearances.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on expensive new bike models?

    -The speaker believes that new bike models are often overpriced and filled with unnecessary features driven by marketing. They argue that performance-focused bikes from previous years, especially those with rim brakes, provide better value.

  • What does the speaker say about the Tour de France and bike choices?

    -The speaker mentions that disc brakes are used in the Tour de France primarily because sponsors no longer offer rim brake options, not because they are superior for performance.

  • What is the 'Dunning-Kruger effect' reference in the video about?

    -The speaker uses the term 'Dunning-Kruger effect' humorously to describe people who buy expensive, flashy bikes like the SL8 Tarmac for social approval, despite not fully understanding their actual performance needs.

  • What does the speaker mean by 'performance-based fun' when choosing a bike?

    -The speaker refers to choosing a bike that is enjoyable to ride, easy to maintain, and optimized for fitness and performance without being bogged down by unnecessary, complicated features.

Outlines

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💰 How to Save Big on Your Next Bike Purchase

The speaker emphasizes the outrageous price hikes in new bikes, pointing out that what used to cost a fraction now costs several times more. They highlight their extensive experience in buying and selling bikes since 2003, asserting that today’s new bike prices are extremely high. The speaker compares older models that were significantly cheaper and advises buyers to focus on what they want from a bike, whether it's for fitness or social approval.

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🚴 Choosing the Right Bike: Fit vs. Approval

This paragraph dives into the two main reasons people buy bikes: for fitness or for social approval. The speaker advocates for performance bikes that are easy to maintain and enjoyable to ride, pointing out how rim brake bikes are simple to work on and perform well. They criticize new trends like integrated handlebars and complex seat posts, suggesting that they're more about aesthetics and marketing than practical performance.

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🔧 The Industry’s Shift to Disc Brakes

The speaker criticizes the bike industry's move toward disc brakes, claiming that pro riders were essentially forced to adopt them due to sponsorships. They explain that rim brakes still offer better performance and are favored by serious cyclists for their simplicity and lightness. The speaker accuses the bike industry of pushing disc brakes for profit, even though many pros would prefer rim brakes.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Bike purchase

The process of buying a new or used bicycle, which is a central theme of the video. The speaker emphasizes how one can save thousands of dollars by opting for second-hand bikes instead of purchasing new, overpriced models. They also highlight how the bike market has changed dramatically over the years.

💡Rim brake bikes

Rim brake bikes refer to bicycles with traditional braking systems where the brake pads apply friction to the wheel rims to slow down or stop the bike. The speaker advocates for these bikes, praising their simplicity, lightness, and ease of maintenance compared to newer disc brake models.

💡Disc brake bikes

Disc brake bikes use a rotor and caliper system to slow the bike, offering better braking power in wet conditions. However, the speaker criticizes them for being heavier, more expensive, and harder to maintain compared to rim brake bikes. This creates a contrast in the speaker's argument against new bike technology.

💡Bike industry marketing

The marketing tactics used by the bike industry to push new, expensive products onto consumers. The speaker is critical of these tactics, arguing that they convince riders to buy expensive disc brake bikes or other products that might not offer real performance benefits, but are marketed as the latest 'must-have' gear.

💡Performance bike

A bike optimized for speed, agility, and efficiency. The speaker stresses the importance of choosing a performance bike, particularly one that is light and easy to maintain, over flashy, over-engineered models. They emphasize that such bikes help riders focus on fitness and enjoyment rather than dealing with constant maintenance.

💡Bike maintenance

The act of keeping a bike in good working condition. The speaker highlights that one of the main goals of owning a bike should be minimizing maintenance efforts. They argue that rim brake bikes require less maintenance than disc brake models, saving both time and money for the rider.

💡Overpriced new bikes

A critical point in the video, where the speaker talks about how the prices of new bikes have skyrocketed in recent years. They mention that models which once cost a few thousand dollars now cost upwards of $20,000. The speaker argues that these inflated prices are unjustifiable and driven by marketing.

💡Fit as [__]

A phrase used to refer to physical fitness and the goal of riding a bike to stay healthy and lean. The speaker encourages viewers to prioritize fitness over flashy bike models, stating that a high-performance bike should be chosen for its ability to help the rider stay active and fit, rather than for its appearance or status.

💡Dunning-Kruger effect

A cognitive bias where people with low ability or knowledge overestimate their skills. The speaker uses this term sarcastically, suggesting that some cyclists buy expensive, high-tech bikes like the SL8 Tarmac S-Works to show off, despite not needing or understanding the advanced technology.

💡Tour de France

The world’s most famous cycling race, often referenced as a benchmark for bike technology. The speaker claims that the use of disc brakes in professional races like the Tour de France is more about marketing than performance, suggesting that the pros themselves prefer rim brakes but are forced to use disc brakes by their sponsors.

Highlights

The speaker wants to help listeners save money on their next bike purchase.

The deals on bikes in 2024 are considered 'insane' by the speaker.

The speaker has been in the bike industry since 2003 and offers insights from their experience.

Brand new bikes are described as 'overpriced' with prices escalating significantly over the years.

The importance of considering one's goal with the bike before purchasing is emphasized.

Lightweight and easy-to-maintain bikes are recommended for those who want to spend more time riding.

Rim brake bikes are praised for their simplicity and ease of maintenance.

The speaker suggests that seeking social approval on bike choice can lead to unnecessary spending.

The latest bikes are criticized for being heavy and expensive to service.

A proper bike fit is recommended for performance and comfort.

The speaker advises against getting caught up in marketing and to focus on one's actual needs.

Used bikes can be found for a fraction of the cost of new ones, according to the speaker.

The speaker compares bike purchasing to personal relationships, emphasizing long-term compatibility.

The difficulty of selling high-quality bikes is noted, possibly due to industry pressures.

The influence of the Tour de France on bike trends, particularly regarding disc brakes, is discussed.

Pro cyclists are described as pawns of the bike industry, with their image used for marketing.

The speaker recommends 'The Drewan Ritters Lean Body Bible' as a comprehensive guide for bike buyers.

Rim brake road bikes are celebrated for their simplicity and racing feel.

The speaker concludes by encouraging listeners to ride for fun and not just to keep up with trends.

Transcripts

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I want to help you save you thousands of

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dollars big fat wads of cash okay of

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bills I want to help you save that much

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on your next bike purchase look at that

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big fat wad

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there all right it's crazy the deals out

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there man it's

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insane I've been a bike buyer and seller

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since 2003 okay was when I got my first

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job in a bike shop and then I would also

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trade on the side at home buying and

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selling bikes so I've been in the game a

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while 2024 the deals are insane all

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right over here we got the best deals

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ever unbelievable deals if you know you

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know and then on the new bike side we

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got insanely ridiculously ludicrously

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extortionate overpriced in my opinion

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price tags on brand new bikes what you

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get a duras bike today cost you a Tarmac

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cost you $20,000 Australian okay

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whatever El new USD or Great British

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pound and 10 years ago that bike you get

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on sale brand new for like you know

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$6,000 Aussie you know it's $4,000 a Jas

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model like last size okay four four four

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and a half Grand mate you know so I

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remember seeing t m 3 for like 4 and a

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half Grand with Shram red and carbon rev

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Wheels here in JT Cycles back in the day

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so it's crazy the differences so 4 and

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half Grand in you know 2012 2013 2024 20

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grand it's like almost 5x

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deals so the biggest the first question

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you want to ask

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yourself is what's my goal with the bike

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if you want to be fit as [ __ ] lean

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vascular all right then you want to have

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a bike that you'll spend more time

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riding than fixing a bike that is light

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stiff Arrow strong you get on it it's an

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extension of your body the rotors aren't

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rubbing it doesn't feel oh wow this is

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dur feels pretty heavy it's just light

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man it's you just goes bro you don't to

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oh I got to do a headset service I got

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to book it in that's 400 bucks just you

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know like that faffy all right so you

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want a bike that you spend more time

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riding than fixing that you can fix very

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simply and these Rim breake Doper bikes

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I call them the sub seven kilo easy to

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fix they work so well like just they're

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just amazing they're designed for

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cycling the culture Road cycling culture

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always was be your own bite mechanic I

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mean Wheels cheering Wheels that's the

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hardest part but everything else brakes

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gears bottom bracket servicing seat Pro

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headset that's really simple [ __ ] all

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right if I can do it if this incompetent

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Aussie ban with a highly punchable face

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can be a bite mechanic then anyone can

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especially on the rim break Doper bikes

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insanely easy to work on all right

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insanely they're easier to work on than

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your shoulders bro all

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right seriously it's just so good so

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what's the goal to be fit or do you want

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to get approval social approval from the

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crew on Instagram from the crew at the

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cafe that's cool all right that's cool

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then get an SX slate like I have all

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right that's the bike for the Dunning

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Kruegers oh wow spinning the spinning

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the in the Wind Tunnel oh do r on that

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oh l oh it's expensive I got to have

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it if you want approval from people like

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that that's cool get one of those SL Tac

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sl8 tarmac s Works finished game over

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that's the bike that's the hottest bike

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you can get this year and next year and

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then sl9 will come out and then it'll

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SLA will fiddle out so there you go you

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know I mean just what is your goal to be

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fit as [ __ ] then get a full Pure

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Performance Bike one where you can

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customize the bike fit really well the

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latest bike's getting a proper bike fit

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on those one piece bars stem

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combo cables going through the headset

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cables going through the fork steerer

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let's drill a hole in the fork steerer

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compromise Integrity uh it should be

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okay let's find out in 10 years time or

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a year time and then you know me just a

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faffy of adjusting stuff let's create a

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a weirdly d-shaped seat post where if

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you want to get zero offset or 20 mil

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forward good luck good luck bro you know

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so

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272 Tac seat post Works fantastic the

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latest Tac

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stuff anyway uh so that's the deal so

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what's the goal what is the goal if you

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want approval from The Dun and Krueger

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kids get the latest [ __ ] 10 years ago

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the latest [ __ ] was the [ __ ] was good

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stuff today the latest

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[ __ ] is is drama it's weighty it's exy

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it's servicing is like uh you know if

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you know you know so that's the facts

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there so go to ask yourself I want you

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get caught up in marketing land all

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right what is my goal for $200 for 200

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bucks man USD you can get an insane

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roote for 200 USD or even less sometimes

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not stolen not crashed not cracked not

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Strat

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okay I like to compare a bikes as a man

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as a straight bro and if you're not

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straight that's fine too I'm just saying

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when it comes to me with

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bikes excluding the SLA I'm like that

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was just you know you know I bought that

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when it comes to bikes that I want to

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spend a long time with the same with

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women

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okay has it done a lot of mileage

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because a lot of mileage probably going

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to have a lot of problems all right and

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that's fine if you're into that okay or

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it's fine if it's just for the weekend

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that's cool but if if it's a bike that's

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going to stay at my place and it's going

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to be in the in my quiver long term it's

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got to be performance-based fun to ride

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easy maintenance minimal maintenance

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okay low

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mileage that's my Pro that's my

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priorities when it comes to a bicycle

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and women who I'm living with okay those

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things hey call me a whatever you want

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to call me that's just me I'm here to

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help you okay life is very short life

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can be too long if we're living in a

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stressful situation so why add more

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stress by buying a bicycle that the

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bicycle industry is trying to push on

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you for rious reasons you know versus

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buying a bike that's easy to live with a

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joy to ride it's insane how hard it is

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to sell good bikes now people like oh

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but in the T of France They Ride disc

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braks I want disc braks too you

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know the people and the tour to France

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right dis breaks because the sponsors

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canceled Rim bre options right the the

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world tour hates Disc break so much that

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the bike manufacturers especially

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specialized T Canal had to cancel the

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ring break options when remember that

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when there that crossover period where

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Peter seagar got paid

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,000 to ride the tour to France on that

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dis break specialized monstrosity

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remember that remember in tan when they

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Peter had those gold rims on that on

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that uh that venge bike and the bike was

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so heavy he was like I don't want to

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race this this is [ __ ] [ __ ] and

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he was jumping he he was jumping off

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Gunners to crack the rims and go oh say

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sorry guys I can't ride that let me ride

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my normal timeout you know it was just

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it was crazy man uh so the bike industry

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had to pay Riders bonuses at the start

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and then eventually they're like

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actually [ __ ] it we're not going to give

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you bonuses we just won't make the bikes

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you prefer how about that to the Riders

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you know so Pro cyclists are nothing but

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porns for the bike industry that's just

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facts you get busted doping cool we cut

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ties we'll pretend we didn't know that

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oh my God you you rode fast in pantani

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and now you got busted for drugs oh we

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had no idea we had no idea at all oh we

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just thought it was our

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bikes so we're cutting tires we're

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cutting tires you made us millions of

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dollars we're cutting tires now cuz

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people know the TRU oh we're cutting

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tires bad

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marketing anyway that's just the that's

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just the wrap up there so understand

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what you want in a bike what is your

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goal and if you want a buyers guide my

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drewan riters lean body Bible is the

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bike buyers guide it is the bike buyers

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guides it is the training manual in

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terms of the bicycle lifestyle if you

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want to have a lean fit physique save

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mega save thousands of dollars and

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thousands of hours of fafy and injury

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and diet nonsense then get doing what

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anybody Bible scratch the nose get it

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done yeah like and do the same stuff

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that uh just works okay it just works if

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it ain't broke don't fix it okay kiss

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keep it simple silly boy keep it simple

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stupid okay the road bike the rim break

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road bike is just so [ __ ] amazing and

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it's still so amazing Bing is like

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people want something different how can

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we sell them something different all

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right let's go disc breaks let's get

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Peter Sean on board let's get these pro

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riders on board and then D and Kruegers

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will just follow the Sheep will

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follow now like I see I see guys who are

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staunch Rim break fans go to dis break

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cuz everyone in the bunch has got dis

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right now I don't want to feel left out

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oh my God I don't to be like I don't

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look like I'm a

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poo I've got the SL tarmac s works and

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when I'm riding with faster Riders I

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don't ride that bike I'm like no that

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stays home I ride my SLA s Works time

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when I'm going with slower Riders when

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I'm trying to keep up with prevent

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getting dropped I'm using my rim brag

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bikes that says volumes even Phil guyon

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cookie man right Mr fake Natty he still

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when he's going for his coms he still

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uses Rim brakes even though he's

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sponsored with disc is like unone Rim

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brakes all right when performance

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matters Rim matters and uh you know why

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put all that extra money into stuff and

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go

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slower and that's okay if you want to

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keep up with the latest stuff that's

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cool I'm not here to but as long as

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you're riding as long as you're having

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fun that's the main thing right I'm not

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here here to have a dig at you I'm just

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giving you the truth right if you prefer

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disc brakes then you go with that all

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right I I prefer dis brakes on my ebike

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on my mountain bike for sure my gravel

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bike yeah but not road bike my road bike

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is my everyday bike it's simple to

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maintain it just feels the lightest it

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makes me feel the best

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you cannot get the same level of racy

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feel with a disc brake bike than you get

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with your Rim road bike it just it is

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[ __ ] night and day difference you

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could blindfold me and I could tell what

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bike I'm riding if it's rim or disc same

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spec

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obviously it's that much

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difference that much difference

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