Illegal forex trading strategy that some are still using. Would you?

Rafal Zuchowicz
25 Jul 202212:03

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Rafael Zohovic discusses a controversial trading strategy involving two accounts on different brokers with high leverage. He explains how, during volatile market conditions triggered by news, traders can open opposing positions (buy and sell) to capitalize on market movements. Despite the risk of both accounts being closed if the market moves against one, this method can yield significant profits if correctly timed. Rafael emphasizes that while brokers discourage this strategy due to its potential for quick riches, it's not inherently illegal unless both trades are with the same broker.

Takeaways

  • 📊 The strategy discussed involves using two separate trading accounts for high-leverage trading in volatile markets.
  • ⚠️ This method is illegal according to brokers' rules, but the video suggests it's still possible to use it discreetly.
  • 💰 The core of the strategy involves opening opposite trades (one buy, one sell) on two accounts during high-impact news events.
  • 📉 One account will lose after a certain amount of pips, but the other will profit significantly due to the market's volatility.
  • 💥 The strategy hinges on quick market movements after major news releases, where prices can shift by 100-200 pips.
  • ⚖️ To avoid being caught by brokers, it's important to use two different brokers and maximum leverage to capitalize on small movements.
  • 🧮 With high leverage, even a $100 account can open a significant position, like a 0.41 lot size, leading to potential large profits.
  • ⏳ The key is to let the profitable trade run after the losing trade is closed, maximizing gains as the market moves in one direction.
  • 💡 There are risks, such as market volatility causing both accounts to close out, resulting in losses on both sides.
  • 📈 The strategy can result in significant profits, but it also comes with a high level of risk and is discouraged due to its illegal nature with brokers.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video?

    -The video discusses a potentially profitable but forbidden and illegal trading strategy involving two separate accounts.

  • Why is this trading strategy considered illegal?

    -The strategy is considered illegal because brokers do not allow it as it could lead to quick profits for traders, which goes against the broker's rules.

  • What is the key requirement for the two accounts in this strategy?

    -The two accounts need to be on massive leverage and should be with separate brokers to avoid being caught.

  • What role does market volatility play in this strategy?

    -The strategy requires a very quickly moving market, often triggered by news, to make a decisive move in one direction within a short time frame.

  • How does the leverage work in this strategy?

    -With high leverage, a small account balance can control a large position. For example, $100 can control $41,000 with a 1:500 leverage.

  • What is the significance of the 33 pips move mentioned in the video?

    -A 33 pips move is significant because it represents the point at which the trade with the losing direction would be closed due to margin exhaustion, while the other trade would be in profit.

  • Why does the presenter suggest waiting after the initial 33 pips move?

    -The presenter suggests waiting because the news that triggered the initial move could continue to influence the market direction, potentially leading to larger profits.

  • What is the potential risk of this strategy?

    -The potential risk is that if the market moves in the opposite direction after the initial move, both accounts could end up losing money.

  • What does the presenter mean by 'reinvesting profits'?

    -Reinvesting profits refers to using the gains from the successful trade to open new positions, potentially increasing overall profits.

  • Why does the presenter believe this strategy might not be illegal if done with two different brokers?

    -The presenter believes that if the strategy is done with two different brokers, the chances of winning are 50/50, and the brokers would still make money from the spread, so it shouldn't be illegal.

  • What is the presenter's final advice regarding this strategy?

    -The presenter advises viewers to be cautious and not to actually engage in this strategy, as it is merely being discussed to answer a question and provide insight.

Outlines

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🚫 Forbidden Trading Strategy

Rafa Zohovic introduces a risky trading strategy that involves using two separate accounts on different brokers with high leverage. This strategy is against broker rules and is considered illegal because it can lead to quick profits. The strategy requires a volatile market, ideally reacting to news, to make a decisive move within minutes. An example is given using the British Pound and Japanese Yen currency pair, where one account would go long and the other short. The goal is to profit from the market's movement, which can be up to 200 pips or more, using the leverage to amplify gains while accepting the risk of one account being closed due to a small move against the trade.

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📈 High Leverage and Market Volatility

The video explains how to use high leverage to one's advantage in a volatile market. It uses an example where a $100 account with 1:500 leverage can control a large position of $41,000. The strategy hinges on the market moving at least 33 pips to cover the cost of one trade, after which the other trade would be in profit. The video suggests waiting for further market movement after the initial 33 pips to maximize profit. It also mentions the potential for reinvestment of profits and the importance of understanding the risks involved, including the possibility of both accounts being closed if the market moves against the initial trade.

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🎰 Casino-like Trading and Legality

Rafa discusses the legality and ethics of the strategy, comparing it to gambling in a casino where the chances of winning or losing are roughly equal. He argues that using two different brokers should not be illegal since the brokers still make money from the spread and one broker is not favored over the other. However, if the same broker is used, it becomes a zero-sum game where the broker stands to lose, which is why it is considered illegal. The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to like, subscribe, and comment on the video.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Trading

Trading refers to the act of buying and selling financial instruments such as stocks, bonds, commodities, or currencies either via financial markets or over-the-counter. In the video, the speaker discusses a trading strategy involving two separate accounts, which is central to the theme of the video.

💡Strategy

A strategy in the context of trading is a plan or method designed to achieve a specific outcome, such as making a profit. The video discusses a particular strategy that involves using two accounts to trade in opposite directions, aiming for significant profits.

💡Leverage

Leverage in trading allows traders to control a larger position than the value of their deposit by borrowing funds from the broker. The video emphasizes the importance of using high leverage for this strategy, which amplifies potential gains but also increases risk.

💡Brokers

Brokers are intermediaries who facilitate transactions in the financial markets. The video mentions that brokers may not allow certain strategies because they could lead to quick profits for traders, which might not be in the brokers' best interest.

💡Volatile Markets

Volatility refers to the rate and extent at which the price of a financial instrument moves up and down. The video suggests that the strategy is best applied in volatile markets where quick and significant price movements can be exploited.

💡News

News in trading often refers to economic announcements or geopolitical events that can cause market fluctuations. The video uses news as a trigger for market movements that can be used to execute the trading strategy.

💡Pips

In forex trading, a pip is the smallest amount by which a currency quote can change. The video uses the term 'pips' to illustrate the potential profit from the strategy, with the speaker calculating profits based on the movement of pips.

💡Spread

The spread is the difference between the bid and ask price of a financial instrument. The video mentions the spread in the context of the cost of trading, as it affects the net profit when a position is closed.

💡Illegal

Illegal in the context of the video refers to strategies that are against the rules set by brokers. The speaker discusses how the strategy could be considered illegal because brokers do not want traders to exploit high leverage in this way.

💡Risk

Risk in trading is the potential for loss. The video acknowledges the risks involved with the strategy, including the possibility of both trades closing at a loss if the market moves against the trader's positions.

💡Consistency

Consistency in trading refers to the reliability or predictability of a strategy's performance over time. The video contrasts the discussed strategy with another that aims for smaller, more consistent profits, suggesting that the strategy's legality and reliability are questionable.

Highlights

Profitable but forbidden trading strategy using two accounts.

Strategy requires using massive leverage on both accounts.

Two accounts must be with separate brokers to avoid detection.

Optimal for highly volatile markets, especially during news events.

Traders open one buy and one sell position simultaneously, regardless of market direction.

Strategy sacrifices one account while leveraging gains in the other.

A 33-pip movement could liquidate one account while producing profits in the other.

After 33 pips, one account is closed due to margin exhaustion, while the other continues to profit.

Waiting for larger market moves post-news can generate more profit, extending gains up to 200 pips.

The strategy becomes illegal because brokers don't want traders using this leverage tactic.

High risk involved, as the market can reverse quickly and close both trades at a loss.

The approach relies on understanding volatile market reactions to specific news events.

Some variations of this strategy involve trading correlated currency pairs like Swiss Franc and Euro.

The strategy can backfire if the market reverses and closes both positions prematurely.

Although illegal with the same broker, the presenter suggests using different brokers to evade detection.

Transcripts

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hello fellow traders it's rafa zohovic

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and welcome to my channel in this video

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i will discuss with you a very

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profitable yet forbidden and illegal

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strategy you can still do it but

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remember that it's against the brokers

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rules they don't want you to do that

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because you would get rich too quickly

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i'm inspired by one of the comments

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made by

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one of the subscribers who said

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hi rafael i know someone using two

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accounts for trading and yes this

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strategy is based on two separate

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accounts

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and he always takes small profits

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without losing but don't tell anyone

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how he do this thing can you help us

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with that i think it should be with two

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accounts he don't tell anyone how he do

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that so now that that's why you have me

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here i will

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tell you most likely uh how he do that

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it might be a different strategy because

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the one the strategy that i will tell

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you about is not about small profits

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about big profits so that's a little bit

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uh

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different

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okay two accounts you need to have two

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accounts

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rule number one

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rule number two

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they both need to be on a massive

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leverage

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rule number three

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they both need to be in separate brokers

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otherwise you would be caught

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rule number four you need a very

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um

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quickly moving market so you need to

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need some news

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the strategy is clearly for

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for the very volatile markets

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that will make a decision and it will go

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in one choosing direction within

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one minute let's say

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so the news is the perfect

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moment

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how do you do that

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here is the thing

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we are on british pound of japanese yen

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this is a five-minute chart you can see

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that's eight o'clock if you look at the

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bottom eight o'clock in the morning

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there are some news

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on the market and the market is reacting

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to the news it's reacting and going over

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in one move it's going over

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100 pips if

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we continue

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this move further on

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we can see that this move is

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at the end of a day

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four hours you've got already 170 pips

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and later 200 pips so imagine you can

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make 200 pips

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but

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how do you know which way the market

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will go

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here is the thing with two accounts you

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don't need to know that

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so you might be thinking like okay so

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what you open one buy one sell so later

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here are you winning there you selling

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so you are on zero minus the

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spread so you're basically losing

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not if you are clever about it not if

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you use the high leverage account

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let's

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jump into the leverage talking let's say

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your account is one hundred dollars that

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you are willing to sacrifice one hundred

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dollars for the strategy

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let's say your

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currency is a british sorry it's a usd

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so american dollar and the currency pair

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as on the previous example

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is british pound to japanese yen so with

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leverage of one to 500 this is the

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merging calculator

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on 100

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you can open

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a 41 000 in units so that means

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0.41 lot

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and now let's have a look

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if we go to the pip calculator how much

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is worth one pip when we are trading on

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41 000 so

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0.41 and one pip is exactly three pounds

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three dollars i'm sorry so what does it

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mean

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let's go back to our previous

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charts

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and let's remember three

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pounds per pip

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it's

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and we traded

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at this point at eight o'clock there was

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a news

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and we open an account open at two

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trades one going

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a

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buy one going sell so after 33

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pips

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at this point

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three times

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33 it's 100 dollars

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we are out of the buy trade about by

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trade our margin is exhausted we don't

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have any more money the broker is

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closing our

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account completely closing the trade you

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don't have a trade anymore but the other

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one

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at this point

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is

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100 in profit

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and growing and because this is the news

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you are not closing after 33 pips

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you are waiting because you know that

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this news

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is

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is making new sentiment on the chart so

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the movement the continuation of the

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movement will be in hours maybe even in

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days depends of what kind of

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movements we are talking about i mean

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what kind of news we talking about so in

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this place here after 100 pips

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so this is basically 2 4

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6 7 35 minutes after 35 minutes you have

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already 300 dollars minus 100 that you

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on the other account minus 100 dollars

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that you put on the other account

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so you've got 200 in profits should you

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decide to wait longer you remember later

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on it was 200 you would have times three

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six hundred dollars

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lost

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100

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profit

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600 dollars so

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let's recap

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two hundred dollars 100 in one account

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100 and other accounts

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maximum leverage that you can get

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33 pips that's enough for the move

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and then bang you are making quick money

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if with this case quick money you can

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even wait for the pullback like here

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and then

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reinvest it again reinvest your profits

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and see what will happen if the movement

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will be

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going for longer you could make even

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more money that way

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so yeah it's illegal because

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as i said the brokers

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don't like it they give you the leverage

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but they don't want you to use this

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leverage in this clever way

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they just want you to you know blow your

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account hopefully trading one to five

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hundred

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but if you do it right if you use this

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leverage in a in a right way

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then

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this is what it is

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i think

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referring to the comments that

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your friends

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he might be using either this strategy

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or

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there are another strategies as well for

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like differences between two similar

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currency pairs like swiss franc

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with euro and

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you can do some tricks over there as

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well on two different accounts and make

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small profits so each time you are

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taking small profits and you are

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building it's quite consistent

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it's maybe less risky because in this

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strategy you could lose as well in the

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one that we

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we this guy we discussed as well because

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imagine that there is a high

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volatility

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so

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for example we have something that

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first the market makes a move of 33

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pips

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you acted too quickly something went

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wrong

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there was an initial reaction 33 pips it

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closes your account

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then it goes

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another way

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so triggers

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another trait

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and blows the second one as well

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and then comes back in this direction in

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the in the right direction so first it

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would go the right direction

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then it will go so it will close the

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the buy the buy would be closed at this

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point

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later it will go again

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up

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it will close

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the cell or opposite at the beginning it

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can go up

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close the cell and then

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the buy would be in profit but then it

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will retrace and it will go

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lower close the buy and you will have

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both

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trades close so remember you need to

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know what you are doing

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plus i'm not advising you really to do

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that

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and this is just to answer the question

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this comment

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and

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just to talk it's it's always it's

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always interesting you know all this

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all these strategies it's like in casino

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you know there's like a little

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percentage and if you take proper

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advantage of it you can

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um

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you can make money especially that i

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don't really think that it should be

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should be so illegal if you are using

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two different brokers at the same time

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because if you think about that

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you have 50 50 your chances of the

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market going up or down is a toss of a

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coin it's 50 50. so that means

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that one time the bro this broker a a

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will win

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another time broker b will win because

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there is no

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no reason for you always to win with one

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broker you don't know which one will win

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so the brokers at the end of the day

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they would have money from the spread

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from your activities

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so it shouldn't be legal it should be

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legal if you are using

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the same broker so

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that's what they actually mean so for

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example

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me and you

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we make a deal that i will put 100 you

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will put 100 we both open in the same a

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broker

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the same trade i mean opposite trades at

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the same time and then whoever wins

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which we split the

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the profits then the broker is losing

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money it's like disadvantages for him so

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that's that's why it's illegal but in

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the other way

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in my opinion nothing wrong with that

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okay if you like this video please

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watch one of these videos i'm sure you

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will like it subscribe to this channel

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thumbs up

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leave me the comment i love your

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comments guys even if it's a short one

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it always

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makes me happy so leave the comment and

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until the next time

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take care bye

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