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Summary
TLDRIn this trading-focused video, the host shares his journey of testing different trading approaches over 9 years, including intuitive trading, intraday strategies, and algorithmic trading. He discusses the results of running three $100 live accounts on BlackB, each with a distinct trading style. Despite initial skepticism, the intuitive trading method surprisingly outperformed, showcasing an 86% win rate. The host emphasizes the importance of market knowledge and the freedom to make decisions based on high-probability trades. He concludes by encouraging viewers to consider an intuitive approach to trading, especially for those new or struggling, and offers a simple strategy from his private mentor for further exploration.
Takeaways
- π The video discusses a personal trading experiment involving three different trading approaches: intuitive, intraday, and algorithmic.
- π The intuitive trading approach, which combines market knowledge with personal experience, surprisingly performed the best among the tested methods.
- π€ The algorithmic trading approach had technical issues, such as being on the wrong price chart, which affected its performance.
- π The strategy-based trading had a disappointing performance, with the account experiencing significant drawdowns and only a few successful trades.
- π€ The speaker attributes the success of the intuitive approach to the freedom it provides to make trading decisions based on a deep understanding of market behavior.
- π― The importance of identifying trends and understanding market pullbacks is highlighted as a key component of successful trading.
- π The speaker emphasizes the value of having a diverse set of strategies to enter and exit trades, which can be applied intuitively based on market conditions.
- π High win rates were achieved in the intuitive trading account, with an overall win rate of 86%.
- π‘ The video suggests that even experienced traders can benefit from revisiting and applying the knowledge gained from mentors and past experiences.
- π A shout out to Nick Shaw is given for his influence on the speaker's approach to intuitive trading and his transparent trading style.
- π The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to consider an intuitive trading approach and offers additional resources for those interested in learning more.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the video script?
-The main topic of the video script is the speaker's exploration of different trading approaches, including intuitive trading, intraday trading, and algorithmic trading, and the results of a test he conducted to evaluate these methods.
How long ago did the speaker's trading journey begin?
-The speaker's trading journey began 9 years ago.
Who is Raymond Bersett mentioned in the script?
-Raymond Bersett is a person who was a Futures Trader back then and had a lot of experience in the trading space. He is mentioned as someone who had given the speaker an answer to trading issues early on.
What are the three types of trading accounts the speaker discusses in the video?
-The three types of trading accounts discussed are: one using a strategy with strict rules, one for intraday trading, and one for an algorithmic trading approach.
What was the initial expectation for the strategy account?
-The initial expectation for the strategy account was that it would be the winner outright because the speaker liked the strategy and believed it could give high returns with easy implementation.
What issues did the speaker encounter with the algorithmic trading approach?
-The speaker encountered issues with the algorithmic trading approach such as the algorithm being on the wrong price chart and not taking as many trades as expected, which resulted in significant drawdowns.
What was the surprising outcome of the intuitive trading account?
-The surprising outcome of the intuitive trading account was that it performed very well, despite the speaker's initial skepticism, with a high win rate and significant account growth.
What is the 'trading mentor's best tool ever' mentioned in the script?
-The 'trading mentor's best tool ever' is humorously referred to as Adobe Photoshop, indicating that it's a joke and not an actual trading tool.
What is the speaker's recommendation for new or struggling traders?
-The speaker recommends that new or struggling traders should consider taking an intuitive approach to trading, using their accumulated knowledge and experience to make trading decisions.
What is the importance of identifying trends in trading according to the script?
-Identifying trends is important in trading as it provides a directional bias that can increase the probability of successful trades. The speaker suggests that traders should look for trends and trade with them to improve their chances of winning trades.
How does the speaker suggest determining when a trend might be over?
-The speaker suggests using market experience to determine when a trend might be over. This could involve recognizing patterns or signals that indicate a potential trend reversal.
What is the speaker's final recommendation for traders looking to improve their trading?
-The speaker's final recommendation is for traders to increase their market knowledge and understanding of price movements, and to consider using the intuitive trading approach as a potential way to improve their trading.
Outlines
π² Discovering the Solution to Trading Struggles
The speaker introduces a personal journey to find a solution to longstanding trading issues. They recount a test conducted using three $100 live trading accounts on BlackB, each with a different trading approach: intuitive, intraday, and algorithmic. The test was not without its challenges, including operational mistakes and issues with trade execution. Despite these setbacks, the accounts still reflected the effectiveness of each trading method, with the intuitive approach surprisingly outperforming the others.
π Analyzing Different Trading Approaches and Results
The speaker delves into the outcomes of the trading test, highlighting the performance of each account. The strategy-based account faced difficulties, with trades not going as planned. The algorithmic approach had technical issues, resulting in a significant drawdown. However, the intuitive trading method, which the speaker initially doubted, performed exceptionally well, offering a sense of freedom and high win rates. The speaker integrates this intuitive approach into their swing trading strategy, experiencing minimal losses and significant gains.
π Embracing Intuition in Trading and Market Knowledge
The speaker discusses the importance of market knowledge and intuition in trading. They share insights on identifying trends and making trading decisions based on market pullbacks. The speaker emphasizes the value of experience and learning from mentors, which has contributed to their ability to discern profitable trades. They also mention Nick Shaw, a trader who has successfully used intuition in trading. The speaker encourages viewers to consider an intuitive approach to trading, especially if they have struggled with traditional methods, and offers a link to a simple strategy taught by their private mentor.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Trading Issues
π‘Intuitive Trading
π‘Algorithmic Trading
π‘Trading Strategy
π‘Intraday Trading
π‘Trading Account
π‘Profit Factor
π‘Win Rate
π‘Risk Management
π‘Trend Trading
π‘Swing Trading
Highlights
The video discusses a personal trading test to find a solution to long-standing trading issues.
The test involved three $100 live trading accounts on BlackB, each with a different trading approach.
The first account used a strict strategy, the second was an intraday approach, and the third was an algorithmic gold algo.
Despite setup mistakes and issues, the accounts reflected the effectiveness of each trading approach.
The strategy account experienced significant drawdowns and was not as successful as hoped.
The algo approach had technical issues but showed potential with a 75% win rate.
The intuitive trading account, initially doubted, performed surprisingly well with a high win rate.
The speaker shares a personal anecdote about learning from a mentor named Raymond Bersett.
The importance of market knowledge and experience in intuitive trading is emphasized.
A simple method for identifying trends and potential entry points in trading is presented.
The video provides a strategy for determining when a trend might be over and how to react.
The role of market experience in recognizing when a trade is likely to be successful or not is discussed.
The speaker's journey from skepticism to embracing intuitive trading as a new trading approach.
The video introduces a tool for swing trading and shares daily updates in a Telegram group.
A shout-out to Nick Shah for his influence on the speaker's understanding of intuitive trading.
The video concludes with an offer to learn a simple strategy from the speaker's private mentor.
An invitation for viewers to join a live Telegram group and VIP access for further trading insights.
Transcripts
folks could this be the answer to my
trading issues all the problems I've had
over the years with trading trying to
find something that works and could it
be your answer too so you're going to
find out in this video a test that I ran
to help me discover this also we'll talk
about how you can potentially implement
it yourself so stay tuned folks we've
got this coming up and the funny thing
was it all started 9 years ago and
somebody gave me the answer we're going
to dive in and have a look at who that
is first before we jump into the test
results and show you what I'm talking
about so this was the episode here on
trading nut so it's guy called Raymond
bersett he was a Futures Trader back
then and had a lot of experience in the
trading space I had no idea what he was
talking about and I'm going to revert
back to this after doing these test
results and showing you the test results
that I took and you're going to really
get a good feel as to why I was probably
so confused back then and how this is
managed to help me going forward now so
let's dive in and have a look at the
test I ran for myself and what actually
transpired my trading Hut live telegram
group you're going to see here three
$100 accounts so these are fresh well
not they weren't fresh accounts but they
were $100 each on blackb they're all
Live accounts as well and you can see
here I've the noted down what kind of
trading I was doing on each of those so
the $799 was intuitive 258 was intraday
and the 474 was an algo was an gold algo
so difference between intuitive and
intraday and uh sorry intuitive and
strategy was very much that the rules
were pretty strict for the strategy and
the algo is obviously very mechanical
rules are completely mechanical and
intuitive was like stuff that I know
that I've been taught by my private
mentor and knowledge that I've picked up
across all the years of trading build
bringing that to the markets to work out
whether or not I get in and out of a
trade as simple as that so we're going
to go through what the results of this
test was and it wasn't straightforward
there were mistakes along the way not
necessarily trading mistakes but just
issues that I had to come with trade
copers with trades being placed on the
wrong account because of the way I was
set things up mistakes putting the EA on
there's pretty much everything I could
that could go wrong did go wrong but we
still managed to get some accounts that
do reflect what each of these approaches
resting so let's dive in have a look at
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let's get back on with the show all
right so in front of you you can see the
first account so I'll go into details to
which ones they are so this was the
first account this was the second
account and this was the third account
now none of them are as they appear so
let's talk about them so the first
account was the strategy account so this
was the one I was hoping would be the
winner outright because I like the
strategy I knew it could give High R and
it was kind of easy to implement when
the setup came I'd be able to you know
get my orders in place and get out of
the trade in an automated fashion so I
can I built an EA that actually gets me
out automatically at the different
levels that I wanted to get out at now
the issue with this is it goes through
periods where it doesn't work very well
and this I think was one of those
periods and you could see here we
basically didn't win any trades apart
from this massive win here which
actually isn't a win this was just a
deposit and I had to re add a bit more
cash to the account because it had drawn
it down so much that I couldn't take
partials on that account added it and
then I started losing money again and
even here I did actually exit some of
the trades prematurely because I was
exiting on the intuitive approach and I
knew that the move was over already and
it wasn't going to reach its Target so I
was kind of like well I don't want to
lose any more money I'll just close this
I I'll move my stop to break even on
these so that was a strategy approach
really disappointed basically Drew down
two accounts not great so the next one
which one was this one this was the algo
approach we had some issues with this as
well in fact it's only really traded
probably just over a week the first week
I was wondering why it wasn't taking
that many trades it took a trade at the
start won it and then it didn't take
many more trades after that the problem
was which I discovered was it was on the
wrong price chart so it was on an hourly
chart instead of a five minute changed
that and all of a sudden bang I think
with the first trade was a win we grew
the account by 50% and then promptly
drew it back down to below the starting
level and we're now back over I think
like 10 bucks in profit it is risking
10% on the account as well so when you
do start losing you know the losses are
going to be much bigger than the wins
especially when you start getting some
growth so I'm going to let that run and
see how that progresses the win rate was
pretty good 75% 59% for shorts profit
Factor 1.08 okay all right you know just
it's above break even so this was the
intuitive account and essentially what I
didn't think would work very well it's
interesting that you know I didn't think
it would work very well I kind of went a
bit gangho at the start and I was just
like well it's probably going to fail
anyway next thing I'm at like 50% of the
account balance going what the hell this
thing's working really well all these
trades that I wanted to take in the past
but never took them for whatever reason
they didn't match my rules they did they
had one thing wrong there was so many
reasons I wouldn't take these trades and
in this account I felt like I've got
freedom to take the trade I feel it's
right I know kind of what's going to
happen I feel like I know what's going
to happen or it's high probability trade
I'm just going to take the trade so it
gave me a whole lot of freedom that I
hadn't had before
now yeah we had a couple of hiccups here
and then this loss here was actually
part of the strategy account and I'd
made a change to my trade manager robot
that I run on the price chart and it's a
long story I'm not going to get into it
here but long story short this account
this trade belongs to the strategy
account so I use the trading mentors
best tool ever right this is the trading
mentors best tool ever I'm going to show
you guys what that is right now it
is Adobe Photoshop so that's a joke so
uh right so I've got rid of that trade
I've moved the price chat up just to
show you what it kind of really would
have looked like had that trade not been
in the account unfortunately I've
promptly lost a tra full trade just
after doing this and i' I pretty much
broke even on two more so let's just
call it one full loss and it looks like
it's going to get stopped out and so
we'll be probably one full loss on the
day which was going to take me down to
probably down here somewhere but overall
it's been doing really well and I think
I've kind of been a little bit hesitant
here because the losses are much bigger
and I sort of was freaked out that this
has gone so well I've kind of need to
just reset myself again to to start
trading this normally and think I'm not
just doing this as part of a challenge
this is probably going to be my new way
of trading going forward it's not just
ended there so let's have a look there
was the win rate is really high okay so
I'm getting out early on a lot of Trades
but I just don't want to you know I'm
trying to keep the profits that I've got
and I want the account to grow I'm not
going to you know just sacrifice
something if price or a trade doesn't
look like it's going to work out I'm
going to get out of that so the win rate
is over 85 five well 88% here for Longs
and 83% for shorts overall that's 86%
win rate and it's 65 trades but I
believe the way that metat Trader does
it is you know if you take a partial or
call out a trade which is not really a
trade but it's yeah I'm trading a lot
kind of taking maybe two or three maybe
in four trades a day
at the start I think I was taking a lot
of Trades so it depends on the day and
if the Market's looking like it's you
know going to be flexible I'm just look
at that trades just hit break even so
I've also added this into my swing
trading approach so this is what I've
been doing with in the telegram channel
that I've just shown you here so every
day I'm putting these swing trades up
now I've was using a strategy and it was
primarily a strategy with a little bit
of an intuitive approach chucked in
there on Au only now I'm actually moving
more to everything is intuitive yeah the
strategy Creeps in there now and again
because to be intuitive you kind of need
to use different tools to get in and out
of a trade and that's what I use and
let's call them strategies but you can
see here I mean I've only lost one trade
in the the whole time of doing doing it
none of these trades have actually gone
over one hour so that's one of the sort
of secrets to not losing that many
trades and even the loss it's only a
small loss is .13 not even 1 R so total
uh for this is 3.01 I believe this is
over the course of maybe a month maybe a
little bit longer but you can see of
that 3.1 if we just add these up here
and see the total in the corner for the
intuitive ones it's actually taken out
quite a good given the fact there's not
that many of them it's
1.67 five six 1.67 so it's more than
half of the return that has been
generated through the insura of approach
and a lot of that has only been the last
week so that's 1. 24 in the last week so
I don't know if this is going to carry
on working here on the swing trading but
I'm feeling more confident about it
going forward and I want to give you
guys something to walk away with on this
video so if you are new to trading brand
new to trading or even if you've been
struggling for a while and you think I'm
going to give this intuitive stuff just
to go and just test it out see if what I
already know through all the mentoring
and whatever you've been taught on the
years or your journey to date could be
something that you can get to work if
you take an intuitive approach to it now
let's just jump into a random price
chart here and what I'm going to do is
give you a simple way to look at price
now this was actually touched on with my
last video that went up this week with
Richard nassa so go back and check that
out if you haven't seen it already
because he goes into a lot of detail
around this but in the general rule of
thumb is we're looking to get in with a
trend trade right so we want to go with
the trend the trend is like an indicator
in itself if you've got a trend price is
likely to you know keep pushing in that
direction so if you uh can find a trend
that's probably the first thing you need
to do and now what is a trend of what
price going in One Direction right it's
quite kind of simple now you can make
that complex or as complex as you want
but that's the general rule of the thumb
so most people can see something going
up something going down that's all we're
looking for right so the other thing
with Trends right is they usually pull
back because they don't go up and down
in a linear fashion and to get one
looking exactly like this is highly
unlikely so what we're going to do is
marry this up against this so if we just
have a look at high and low points here
and marry these points up what we're
going to find is that we kind of have
identified our Trend here and you should
be able to just go okay well if I can
sort of marry these points up I haven't
changed them all at all and identify
that Trend then I know that it's going
to pull back at some point and then push
pull back push so if I can
work out when is it going to pull back
and then just get in at one of those
pullbacks then that's possibly going to
give me a good chance to win a trade now
if I do that enough I'm going to win
more trades and obviously grow an
account so what we might do is just have
a look at what if this goes wrong now
let's imagine that this goes wrong right
so we've got our Trend here we push back
up
here and we go okay here we go we're
turning around we've got a be candle
here here this is this is where we're
going to get in oh no it goes up here we
lose that trade okay so that's going to
happen now and again and maybe you go
okay well let's just ignore that and try
and get in here we're going to go short
again okay at what point do you decide
that this thing over so you got to come
up with some strategies to work out that
this trend this downtrend has now
finished how are you going to do that
it's going to come with market
experience so a Trader that helped me
with this understand this was Nick sha
so if you want to check out his he does
intuitive trading really transparent
Trader he's been on the show a few times
and he's discovered that being intuitive
is probably the best way to trade it was
part of the reason I actually thought
maybe I'll give this a go because it's
something I've always wanted to do big
shout out to Nick for for sharing that
idea with me and I know a lot of other
Traders as well so one that's one thing
right is getting your market knowledge
up getting an understanding of how price
moves the next thing um that really
helps me is the fact that my mentors
giving me so many strategies to get in
and out of Trades that and I just never
get a chance to use them all but I do
remember them all when I see the chart
and when I look at Price candles I can
pretty much work out when it's going to
move or when it's going to change
direction what trade should I avoid
taking when's a trade running out of
steam when should I move my stop to
break even all that stuff now am I
perfect data every time no not by any
means but have I got a good feel for
when a trade is the right one to get in
on yes I do have I got a good feel for
when Traders the wrong one to get in yes
I do there's like so many things I know
that I can bring into this trading now
I'm not going to be able to teach you
all of those here but if you do want to
learn a simple strategy that my private
Mentor did teach me then check out the
link at the end of this video to go and
find that video we've got a bunch of
stuff going on over there with this cool
little strategy which has helped a lot
of Traders get profitable out of the
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