Can I Know What I Am?

Rupert Spira
15 Sept 202407:39

Summary

TLDRThe transcript explores the profound realization of the illusory nature of the self, leading to a questioning of personal identity. The dialogue delves into the certainty of one's existence, despite the inability to define or describe it. It emphasizes the contrast between the absolute certainty of 'I am' and the elusiveness of defining what 'I am.' The conversation suggests that while the mind may perceive a lack of knowledge due to the incapacity to describe the essence of being, the experience of existence itself is the most intimate and certain, transcending the need for objective description.

Takeaways

  • 🔍 The individual is grappling with the illusory nature of the self, questioning the concept of 'person' and the certainty of existence.
  • 🌟 There is a recognition of a universal consciousness that transcends the individual, suggesting a diminished sense of personal identity.
  • 🤔 The individual is certain of their existence ('I am') but struggles to define or describe what constitutes their essence.
  • 🧐 The certainty of one's existence is contrasted with the uncertainty of the physical world, indicating a deeper, more profound awareness of being.
  • 📚 The experience of 'I am' is described as more certain than any other experience, yet it cannot be articulated with words.
  • 🤝 The dialogue suggests that the experience of being is so intimate and familiar that it defies objective description.
  • 🔮 The individual acknowledges an inability to 'look' at or distance oneself from this fundamental experience of existence.
  • 🕊️ The concept of 'I' is presented as more real and tangible than physical reality, yet it cannot be pinned down or defined.
  • 🔑 The dialogue explores the idea that the experience of 'I am' is the only absolutely certain element of one's experience.
  • 💭 The mind's inability to describe the experience of being leads to the misconception that one does not know what they are.

Q & A

  • What is the main realization the speaker is grappling with?

    -The speaker is grappling with the realization of the illusory nature of a person, which leads to a diminished sense of self and a questioning of their existence.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the certainty of one's existence?

    -The speaker suggests that there is an absolute certainty of one's existence, which is more certain than any other experience or knowledge one might have.

  • Why does the speaker believe that the experience of 'I am' cannot be described?

    -The speaker believes that the experience of 'I am' cannot be described because it is too intimate, familiar, and certain, and it lacks objective defining features or qualities.

  • What does the speaker mean when they say 'I am it'?

    -When the speaker says 'I am it,' they are pointing to the direct experience of being, which is not separate from consciousness and cannot be objectified or described.

  • Why does the speaker feel that the mind cannot describe what they truly are?

    -The speaker feels that the mind cannot describe what they truly are because the nature of their being is beyond objective qualities and is experienced directly without the need for mental constructs.

  • What is the significance of the phrase 'Consciousness is universal' in the context of the script?

    -The phrase 'Consciousness is universal' signifies that there is a fundamental unity to all existence, and the individual sense of self is an illusion, which is part of the broader consciousness.

  • How does the speaker differentiate between the certainty of 'I am' and other experiences?

    -The speaker differentiates the certainty of 'I am' from other experiences by stating that the certainty of one's existence is more solid, real, and tangible than any other experience, including the perception of the physical world.

  • What is the speaker's perspective on the nature of the self in relation to consciousness?

    -The speaker's perspective is that the self is not a separate entity but is an integral part of consciousness, and the experience of 'I am' is the most intimate and certain aspect of one's existence.

  • Why does the speaker avoid using words to describe the experience of 'I am'?

    -The speaker avoids using words to describe the experience of 'I am' because language is inadequate to capture the direct and non-objective nature of this experience.

  • What does the speaker imply about the relationship between the person and consciousness?

    -The speaker implies that the person is a diminishing concept in the face of the realization of universal consciousness, suggesting that the individual self is an illusion and consciousness is the fundamental reality.

  • How does the speaker suggest one should approach the experience of 'I am'?

    -The speaker suggests that one should approach the experience of 'I am' by directly experiencing it without trying to objectify or describe it, as it is beyond words and mental constructs.

Outlines

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🔍 Exploring the Illusory Nature of Self

The speaker grapples with the realization of the illusory nature of the self, which leads to a profound existential question: 'What am I?' This realization is so powerful that it becomes difficult to articulate. The speaker acknowledges the universal consciousness and the diminishing sense of a separate self. They discuss the certainty of one's existence, even when the nature of that existence is elusive. The conversation emphasizes the certainty of 'being' over 'knowing what one is,' suggesting that the experience of existence is more fundamental than any other experience. The speaker is encouraged to reflect on the source of this certainty, which is intimate and beyond words, and to recognize that the inability to describe this experience does not negate its reality.

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🧘‍♂️ The Indescribable Essence of Being

This paragraph delves deeper into the certainty of one's existence, which is described as more solid and real than any physical object. The speaker is more certain of their existence than any other experience, yet they find it impossible to describe what this essence is. The conversation highlights the paradox that while the mind cannot describe the essence of being, the being itself knows what it is, even if the mind cannot articulate it. The speaker is encouraged to express this knowing through silence or negative terms, as any positive description would fall short. The dialogue concludes with a reaffirmation of the speaker's intrinsic knowing of their being, despite the mind's inability to define it.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Illusory nature

The term 'illusory nature' refers to the perception that something is not as it seems or is deceptive in nature. In the context of the video, it is used to describe the speaker's realization that the concept of a 'person' might not be as concrete as traditionally understood. The speaker grapples with the idea that the self might be less substantial than the illusion of a separate, individual entity, which is a central theme of the discussion.

💡Consciousness

Consciousness, in this video, is discussed as a universal, perhaps non-individual entity. The speaker suggests that there might be a collective or shared aspect to consciousness that transcends the individual 'person.' This concept is integral to the exploration of self and being, as it challenges the notion of a separate self and points towards a more interconnected understanding of existence.

💡Certainty

The concept of 'certainty' is central to the video's exploration of self-awareness. The speaker emphasizes the absolute certainty of one's existence ('I am') compared to other experiences or beliefs. This certainty is contrasted with the inability to define or describe the source of this certainty, highlighting a paradox where the most fundamental aspect of self is also the most elusive.

💡Experience

Experience, in this context, refers to the subjective encounters or perceptions that one has, which form the basis of knowledge and understanding. The video discusses the experience of being as something that is more certain than any other sensory or cognitive experience, yet it cannot be articulated or defined, suggesting a profound intimacy with the essence of existence.

💡Separate entity

The term 'separate entity' is used to describe the traditional view of the self as an individual, distinct from others and the world. The video challenges this notion, suggesting that the sense of being a separate entity might be an illusion. This idea is crucial for understanding the speaker's journey towards a different conception of self and reality.

💡Intimate

Intimacy, in the video, is used to describe the closeness or depth of the experience of being. The speaker indicates that the experience of 'I am' is more intimate and familiar than any other, suggesting a profound, intrinsic connection to one's own existence that is beyond the reach of language and description.

💡Presence

Presence here refers to the immediate and undeniable 'now-ness' of one's existence. The speaker discusses the presence of being as something that is so immediate and certain that it cannot be objectified or described, yet it is the most real aspect of experience. This concept is key to understanding the immediacy and reality of the self beyond mental constructs.

💡Objective

The term 'objective' is used in contrast to the subjective experience of being. The speaker notes that the experience of 'I am' cannot be described in objective terms because it lacks defining features or qualities that can be pointed to or described. This highlights the subjective and non-material nature of the fundamental experience of existence.

💡Negative terms

Negative terms are mentioned as a way to describe the inexpressible nature of being. The speaker suggests that what can be said about the experience of 'I am' is often what it is not, rather than what it is, due to its intangible and undefinable nature. This use of negation underscores the limitations of language in capturing the essence of self.

💡Silence

Silence is presented as a form of communication that transcends words, allowing for the conveyance of experiences or states of being that are beyond language. In the video, silence is seen as a more accurate representation of the experience of 'I am' than any verbal description, symbolizing the ineffable nature of the most fundamental aspects of self.

Highlights

The realization of the illusory nature of a person can be profoundly challenging and lead to existential questioning.

The certainty of one's existence is more certain than any other experience, even if the nature of that existence is elusive.

The experience of 'I am' is so intimate and familiar that it defies verbal description.

The inability to describe the experience of 'I am' does not negate its reality or certainty.

The search for the source of 'I am' is a fundamental exploration of consciousness.

The experience of being is so present that it cannot be observed as an object; it is the observer itself.

The notion that consciousness is universal suggests a non-dualistic view where the individual and the whole are not separate.

The conversation explores the idea that the 'person' as an entity diminishes as the reality of 'I am' becomes more apparent.

The certainty of 'I am' is contrasted with the uncertainty of the physical world, highlighting the primacy of subjective experience.

The dialogue emphasizes the importance of exploring the experience of 'I am' from a place of not knowing, rather than seeking definitive answers.

The concept of 'I am' is described as being more real and tangible than any physical object, yet it cannot be pinpointed or defined.

The dialogue suggests that the experience of 'I am' is indestructible and ever-present, yet it cannot be described in positive terms.

The mind's inability to describe the essence of 'I am' leads to the paradoxical conclusion that it both knows and does not know itself.

The exploration of 'I am' is presented as a journey into the depths of one's own being, beyond the limitations of language and conceptual thought.

The dialogue concludes with the recognition that the experience of 'I am' is known, but not in a way that can be communicated through words.

The conversation underscores the idea that the nature of existence is not a question of belief but of direct, unmediated experience.

Transcripts

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my issue now and my question is that

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more and more I see the illusory nature

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of a

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person and this brings me into hard to

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speak at this point from that

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realization U of not knowing the

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question what am I seems to come up with

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greater force

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I believe I not believe but I trust and

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and believe and experience to some

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degree the Consciousness is

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universal so there is no

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person present or diminishing person

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present

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in being

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Consciousness it's as if I seem to have

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come to a new place where again don't

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know what I am yes Ron you don't know

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what you

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are but you know for certain that you

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are

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yes in other words you don't

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doubt the fact of

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being so don't worry about knowing what

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you

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are ask yourself the

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question from what experience

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do I derive the

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certainty that I

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am because you are certain that you are

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yes you don't imagine it you didn't read

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it you know it in fact that experience

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is more certain the certainty of your

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own being the certainty that I

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am is has a different degree of

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certainty to it than any other

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experience you have for instance you are

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much much more certain that you are than

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you are certain that this is a

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world now ask yourself from what

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experience do I derive the certainty

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that I

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am don't shake your head and say I don't

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know because if you didn't know you

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would say I don't know that I am I'm not

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sure that I am but you never say that

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wrong you always say I know that I am

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that knowledge of being comes from an

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experience you must be having that

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experience in order to say for absolute

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certainty I am now go to the experience

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from which you say with absolute

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certainty I

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am I have no words for it perfect Ron

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perfect I say far too much about it you

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why don't you have an you're right there

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are no words for it but why can you not

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say anything about

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it it is too

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close too close and yes that's true wh

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why else can't you say anything about

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it when you look at it I I I know you

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can't really look at it but when you

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when you taste when you know that

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experience from which you say with

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absolute certainty I am why why can't

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you you you know it it's more intimate

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more

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familiar more certain than anything else

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you have ever known or experienced but

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why can't you say anything about

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it it is so present

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that I have no distance from it because

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I do not exist as a separate

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entity I am it um

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yes but if you absolutely correct but if

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you were to try to

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describe try and describe it to somebody

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who have to imagine this to somebody who

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doesn't know what you're talking about

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it's intimate Closer Than Close

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present try

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to try to say something that is true

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about it try to represent it in some

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way I would tell them now

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in this

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instant find the source of I you you see

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R you're absolutely right you see I keep

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pressing you I

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keep I keep wanting you to say something

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about it and you quite

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rightly avoid doing so and I can see

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that you you're doing it completely

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genuinely the reason you can't say

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anything about it is is because there's

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not there's nothing objective there to

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say anything about it has

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no defining features or qualities and

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yet you are more certain of it than any

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other

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experience so whatever it is this the

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really the only element of your

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experience that is absolutely

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certain it's it's it's it's more solid

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it's more real it's more tangible than

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than than concrete it's it's so

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indestructible and present and real and

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And yet when you try to find it when you

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try to say you cannot say a single word

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about it it's good when I I tried to get

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you to say something about it you kept

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just saying something that

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evoked it in The Listener without

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describing it because you can't describe

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there's nothing there objective to

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describe yes

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well that's just close

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as you can get to knowing not just that

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you are but knowing what you are you can

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only describe what you are in negative

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terms or as you did it with silence

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which is even

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better so you do actually know what you

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are you you not only know that you are

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you do actually know what you

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are but the Mind cannot describe that so

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the mind says therefore I don't know

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what I am no you your being does know

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what you are but because the mind cannot

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describe that the Mind thinks I don't

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know what I am it's quite obvious to all

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of us that you do know not just that you

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are but what you

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are I remember in our last conversation

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some time

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ago I said to you as the person becomes

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less and less of a real

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entity the statement I am that becomes

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that is

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that because there is no person in

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I but you came back and you said to me

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something that almost knocked me over

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you

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said I am I

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yes

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