Sales Mastery: Follow Up Like a Madman

Sabri Suby
17 Sept 201912:19

Summary

TLDRThe speaker emphasizes the importance of aggressive follow-up in sales, asserting that most deals are lost due to insufficient persistence rather than over-following. They advise salespeople to act as if they are the only option for the client, ignoring any mention of competition. The speaker shares strategies for maintaining contact, including frequent calls and personalized messages, and stresses the need to handle objections proactively. They argue that the initial proposal is the peak of the salesperson's power and that follow-ups are crucial for closing deals, suggesting that most clients will avoid confrontation by not responding, which is why relentless follow-up is key to success.

Takeaways

  • 🔍 Persistence is key in sales; following up too hard is better than not following up at all.
  • 🗣️ When a prospect says they're shopping around, act as if you're the only option and continue your follow-up strategy.
  • 💡 Confidence in your product or service is crucial; always act as if you're the only player in the market.
  • 📞 Avoid asking about other options or agencies; instead, focus on your own offering and maintain a strong follow-up.
  • 📉 The likelihood of losing a deal increases significantly if you don't follow up aggressively.
  • ⏰ Timing is crucial; the first two weeks after a pitch are the most important for follow-up.
  • 📝 Never ask a prospect when they would like you to call back; always take control of the follow-up schedule.
  • 🤝 Always handle objections proactively and provide prospects with the information they need to make a decision.
  • 📱 Use various methods of communication for follow-up, including text messages, videos, and involving others in the deal.
  • 🔄 Expect objections and be prepared to address them; view them as opportunities to strengthen your pitch.

Q & A

  • What is the main argument the speaker is making about following up with prospects?

    -The speaker argues that you should follow up with prospects persistently and assertively. Most deals are lost due to a lack of follow-up rather than from following up too aggressively.

  • Why does the speaker believe it's important to act as if you're the only player on the field?

    -The speaker believes acting as if you're the only player on the field helps you stay confident and focused, ensuring that you don’t give undue attention to competitors and continue pushing for the sale.

  • What strategy does the speaker recommend when a prospect says they're 'shopping around'?

    -The speaker recommends ignoring the fact that the prospect is shopping around and continuing to follow up as if you are the only option, thus maintaining control of the situation.

  • How does the speaker suggest handling objections when a prospect needs to consult with a business partner?

    -The speaker suggests anticipating and handling the objections that the business partner might raise, thus equipping the prospect with answers before they even consult their partner.

  • What is the speaker’s view on the timing of following up with prospects after sending a proposal?

    -The speaker emphasizes the importance of aggressive follow-up right after sending a proposal, stating that prospects are most interested immediately after the initial pitch and grow colder over time.

  • How does the speaker recommend handling a prospect who requests to be called back in two weeks?

    -The speaker recommends not waiting the full two weeks but instead following up sooner to keep the deal moving, as the prospect is likely stalling and might lose interest.

  • What tactic does the speaker use to deal with prospects who ignore multiple follow-up attempts?

    -The speaker suggests continuing to follow up relentlessly, even using humor in voicemails, to demonstrate persistence and make it clear that you won’t give up easily.

  • Why does the speaker emphasize the importance of handling objections during the first call?

    -The speaker stresses that handling objections during the first call is crucial because it's when the prospect is most engaged, and it provides the best opportunity to address concerns before they cool off.

  • What does the speaker say about the importance of follow-up in the sales process?

    -The speaker highlights that the real sales process begins with follow-up after the proposal is sent, as most prospects tend to ghost salespeople, and persistent follow-up is key to closing deals.

  • How does the speaker suggest maintaining control over the sales process?

    -The speaker suggests maintaining control by giving clear directives on when you will follow up, not letting the prospect dictate the timeline, and consistently following up regardless of their initial responses.

Outlines

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📈 The Art of Assertive Follow-Up in Sales

This paragraph emphasizes the importance of aggressive follow-up in sales. The speaker argues that by not following up, one is likely to lose nine out of ten deals. They suggest that instead of seeming pushy, salespeople should aim to impress prospects with their persistence. The speaker advises to act as if one is the only option for the customer, even when they claim to be shopping around. This involves not asking about other options and focusing solely on one's own offering. The speaker also stresses the importance of follow-up within the first two weeks of the initial pitch, using various communication methods like text messages and videos to maintain engagement. They advocate for taking control of the sales cycle and not leaving the timing of follow-ups to chance.

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🔄 Overcoming Objections with Persistent Follow-Up

The speaker discusses a consistent approach to sales follow-up, highlighting that while some may find the frequency of communication overwhelming, it often leads to success. They describe a typical sales scenario where a salesperson might call a day after sending a proposal, only to be met with objections and delays. The speaker suggests that by being persistent and not accepting vague delays, one can overcome these objections. They share a personal strategy of leaving multiple voicemails, which can lead to the prospect feeling compelled to respond. The key message is to never give up on a prospect, especially if they have a legitimate business need, and to stay in the deal for as long as possible, as most salespeople tend to lose interest over time.

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🗣️ Mastering the Follow-Up Conversation

In this paragraph, the speaker focuses on the strategy of handling objections and getting to the truth during the sales process. They suggest pretending that each interaction is the first and only one, aiming to uncover the prospect's true intentions. The speaker advises to address objections directly, whether at the beginning or end of a call, as most deals are won or lost during follow-ups. They emphasize the power shift that occurs once a proposal is sent, and the need to be prepared with strategies to handle potential objections. The speaker encourages salespeople to be ready with their 'utensils' or strategies to address objections when they arise, much like a judo roll, to maintain control of the sales conversation.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Follow-up

Follow-up refers to the act of contacting a prospect or customer after an initial interaction to maintain engagement, provide additional information, or close a sale. In the video, the speaker emphasizes the importance of aggressive follow-up in sales, suggesting that failure to do so can lead to losing deals. The speaker uses the phrase 'you just never ever stop following up' to illustrate the persistence required in sales to stand out and ensure prospects remember the salesperson and their offering.

💡Pretend

In the context of the video, 'pretend' is used as a strategy where the salesperson acts as if they are the only option for the customer, disregarding any mention of the customer shopping around. This approach is meant to project confidence and exclusivity, as exemplified by the speaker's advice to 'pretend like you are the only player on the field' even when the customer mentions considering other options.

💡Pipeline

A sales pipeline is a systematic approach to managing sales prospects and opportunities, tracking them through various stages of the sales process. The speaker discusses the importance of nurturing leads within the pipeline, suggesting that salespeople should not give up on prospects who have shown interest but have not yet converted, as they may still be valuable in the long term.

💡Ghosting

Ghosting in sales refers to the act of a prospect or customer ceasing communication without explanation, often after receiving a proposal or quote. The speaker mentions that '60 to 70 percent of people are going to ghost us', highlighting a common challenge in sales where prospects do not respond to follow-ups, and the need for销售人员 to be persistent despite this.

💡Proposal

A proposal in sales is a formal document that outlines the details of a product or service offering, including pricing, benefits, and terms. The speaker discusses the critical moment when a proposal is sent to a prospect, suggesting that this is the peak of the salesperson's influence. After the proposal is sent, the salesperson must follow up aggressively to maintain momentum and close the deal.

💡Objection Handling

Objection handling is a sales technique where a salesperson addresses and overcomes potential concerns or hesitations from a prospect to move the sale forward. The speaker advises salespeople to anticipate and address objections proactively, equipping prospects with the information they need to make a decision, as illustrated by the advice to 'arm them so when they go away and speak with their business partner you've handled that objection'.

💡Voicemail

Voicemail is a telephone service that allows people to leave recorded messages for others when they are unable to answer the call. The speaker uses voicemail as a tool for persistent follow-up, suggesting that leaving multiple voicemails can demonstrate commitment and eventually prompt a response, as in the example 'once you voicemail the guy, three or four times is when you start to have fun with it'.

💡Sales Cycle

The sales cycle refers to the stages a potential customer goes through from the initial contact with a salesperson to the final decision to purchase or not. The speaker warns that the longer the sales cycle, the colder the prospect becomes, and the lower the chances of conversion, emphasizing the need for quick and effective follow-up.

💡Strategic Follow-up

Strategic follow-up involves planning and executing a series of intentional contacts with a prospect to move them through the sales process. The speaker advocates for a systematic approach to follow-up, rather than relying on feelings or assumptions about a prospect's readiness, as indicated by the statement 'it can't be whatever you feel like or what you think is right for that particular prospect'.

💡Control

In the context of the video, control refers to the salesperson's ability to guide the sales process and maintain momentum. The speaker suggests that by giving directives and setting the terms of follow-up, such as deciding when to call back, the salesperson remains in control and can better manage the sales cycle, as exemplified by 'we are in control'.

💡Salesperson

A salesperson is an individual who sells goods or services, often working directly with customers to understand their needs and make sales. Throughout the video, the speaker provides advice and strategies for salespeople to improve their follow-up techniques and close more deals, positioning the salesperson as a key player in the sales process.

Highlights

The importance of persistent follow-up in sales, with the assertion that not following up can lead to losing nine out of ten deals.

Encouragement to seek compliments like 'you never stop following up' as a sign of effective sales strategy.

Advice to act as if you are the only player in the field when a prospect mentions shopping around.

The strategy of not inquiring about other options when following up, to project confidence in your own offering.

The concept of 'covering them up like crazy' in the initial follow-up phase to maintain momentum and interest.

Using various communication methods like text messages and videos to keep the engagement high during the follow-up process.

The idea that the peak of a prospect's interest is at the end of the first strategy session, and how to capitalize on this.

The directive approach to setting up the next call or meeting, demonstrating control and initiative in the sales process.

Handling objections preemptively by assuming every statement from a prospect could be an objection.

The technique of not accepting 'I need to speak to my business partner' as a delay tactic and addressing it directly.

The significance of the two-week follow-up period and the importance of not waiting for the prospect to initiate contact.

The reality that most people will avoid making decisions, and how to use this to your advantage in follow-ups.

The strategy of not accepting 'I'll get back to you in two weeks' at face value and pushing for a more immediate engagement.

The concept of 'ghosting' in sales and how to combat it with persistent and strategic follow-ups.

The power dynamic shift post-proposal and how to manage it to maintain control and influence over the sales process.

The importance of handling objections at the peak of the prospect's interest to prevent them from cooling off.

Advice on how to deal with prospects who claim they need to 'think about it', framing it as an objection that needs addressing.

The call to action for viewers to engage with the content, ask questions, and utilize the hashtag 'hey Sabri' for direct engagement.

Transcripts

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if you're feeling like okay I don't want

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to follow up on this prospect too hard

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because I'm going to seem to a cane or

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I'm going to lose it let me tell you

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that you will lose nine deals out of ten

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as a result of not following up as

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opposed to the one that you will lose

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from following up too hard right

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you want those people complimenting you

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and saying like wow you're incredible I

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wish my sales guys were like you like

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you just never ever stop following up

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you keep calling me and it's not

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something that I want to leave to chance

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it the other thing that you guys need to

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do is when somebody says that they're

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shopping around you need to pretend like

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you are the only player on the field and

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forget that they even told you that

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they're shopping around and you still

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follow up this end follow-up program

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you're the only player on the field so

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when you call them you don't ask them

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how they've gone with other agencies or

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other options you just pretend like

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you're the only one out there following

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them off to get some fun because that

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just means that you're just so confident

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in what you're going that you doesn't

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even matter

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oh look I need oh I need a shop around

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somewhere you're going to need to leave

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it with me yeah no problems completely

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understand that you need to shop around

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and then two days later you call them

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back how'd you go if you look at the

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proposal you written

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you don't even mention how did you go

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with getting other people no no no no

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none of that stuff right oh yeah I've

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gotten one proposal but I'm still

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waiting to get another guy in cool the

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price was the same who would you go with

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why do you like us and just pretend like

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they're they're not even in the game

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these other guys unless they

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specifically bring them up and they're

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asking questions about that you just

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wanted to space if we follow a lot much

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crazy man and cover them up like crazy

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the way that I've always approached it

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is when I get that opportunity once I

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pitch that person like I've always told

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you guys you will never ever ever get

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that prospect as hot as at the end of

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that first strategy session it's just

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regressing to the main art for that it's

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moving backwards and it's getting colder

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and colder and the more time that you

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put in that sales cycle the lower your

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chances are of ever converting that

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baked into a customer right so I follow

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up incredibly hard I cover them up in a

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blanket in that first two weeks where

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I'm just literally hitting them with so

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much that they can't even move like

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there's pipe bombs it's text messages as

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videos as loom videos that getting

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people involved in the deal there's so

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many things that I will do on that

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person initially yeah thanks Jamie like

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leave it with me made I'm really under

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the pump like you know I've needed all

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this call me back in two weeks that

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is a lie he doesn't need you to call him

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back in two weeks that's why we never

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ask people when would you like me to

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call you back all right cool I'm gonna

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send you out the prop I'm gonna give you

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a fall tomorrow it when suits 10 a.m. or

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4 p.m. we're giving the directive we are

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in control Oh mate I'm really under the

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pump you know it's gonna basically gonna

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have to give me a call back in two weeks

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Cho will look if you you I'm gonna need

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to give you a pull back in two weeks and

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there's no point me really sending the

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proposal to you because you're gonna

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forget most of the stuff that we discuss

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so if that's the case I would rather

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just leave it to two weeks

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all right I've made it what I'll try to

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make some time tomorrow awesome I'll

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kick it out to you and call them backs

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like regardless of what they say to you

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you just need to be following them up

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and you need to be imagining that every

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time somebody tells you something is a

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lie and all I need to sleep with my

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business partner no problem so most

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people do need to speak to their

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business partner what do you think that

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they're going to say oh I think you'll

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probably have a problem with the

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contract awesome and then you just start

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to handle that objection now he already

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knows what his business partner is gonna

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say he doesn't need a speak the business

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partner

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he knows that person well enough to know

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what their objections are so you want to

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handle that objections with the prospect

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and arm them so when they go away and

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speak with their business partner you've

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handled that objection and then he goes

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and handles it for you but if you just

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leave that to them it's done you'll

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never ever get it oh yeah these guys

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want to go with us but it's a 12-month

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contract yeah Matt we don't do contracts

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cool we'll leave it and then you call

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that guy and he feels like the door is

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already closed and you can never really

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don't go away from just following these

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guys up like crazy everybody's gonna say

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to me yet two to three weeks and then

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I'm gonna ask them what is gonna take

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two to three weeks what is it that

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you're gonna be needing to handle over

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the next two to three weeks and I'll get

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a realistic picture of what's gonna

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happen rather than them telling me not

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to - three days when I know that's a lie

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like how many deals that we do the other

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guys send them back the paperwork in two

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to three days like it's probably ten to

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twenty percent of the time eighty

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percent of the time they're not right

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and it's the fot the follow-up game

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begins that's when the sale really

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begins is after they've got the prop

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that's when we start following up right

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and that's when we start getting after

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them and we know that 60 to 70 percent

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of people are going to ghost us whether

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it's a five-dollar decision or a

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$500,000 decision people don't want to

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make decisions right so that's where the

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follow up games begin

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that is the number one thing I can't hop

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on it enough and it needs to be

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strategic it can't be whatever you feel

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like or what you think is right for that

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particular prospect or that particularly

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it means like this is the format and I

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just do it every single time because

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it's just like if you look at for

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instance what happens in the top of the

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funnel yeah I get people saying hey man

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you're emailing me too much right or all

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the little things that they say but more

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often than not what does that result in

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that results in us winning even though I

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know that something to be perfect for

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everybody it's a winning formula and

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that's what this thing is so you will

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get some people say hey like you're

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coming in a bit heavy like don't call me

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every day don't call me every two days

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don't call me every three days

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cool man I'll just follow up just to

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check that everything's all good I'll

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give you a call back in the next week

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that's that's the worst thing that's

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gonna happen right but what usually

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happens is if you follow somebody up

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this is like if you think about a normal

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sale in sales environment this is what

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happens somebody get a proposal the

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sales guys calls him the next day and

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says to him oh did you get the proposal

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yet and then like what do you think oh

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yeah I still haven't had a look at it or

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I need to think about it right they hit

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get hit with that objection and then

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what happens next is okay cool when

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should I call you back

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call me back in two weeks the guy it has

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got half a brain

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we'll call the guy back in two weeks

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he'll who won't answer his phone call

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and in the salesperson stops calling

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that's literally what happens right nine

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out of ten times that's the environment

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so these prospects are trained that is

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they ghost you this monkey on their back

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will disappear right so that's why I say

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that like once you voicemail the guy

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three or four times is when you start to

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have fun with it

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it's sub right here from King Kong I'm

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building an incredible relationship with

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your voicemail really feel like I'm

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getting to know it right now

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just want to let you know Brian I am NOT

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going to stop giving you a call as this

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is something so obviously really

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important to you so please give me a

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call back

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otherwise I will keep calling you thank

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you bye bye

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that guy okay this guy's not going away

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yeah this guy is a different beast he's

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he's not gonna leave me alone and once

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that happens is they start listening to

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the voice mail they start laughing I

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start showing their friends they're in

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the car they're like this guy's a

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maniac may have you seen this fellow who

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called me voice mail six times

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in the last two weeks is that and they

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start to build admiration for you man

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you're look you're good man your is

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good all right whatever you hit me you

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got something fresh to say you are the

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only player on the field when that

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happens there is nobody else out there

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it is the Andy showed is the Brian show

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is a day show but when you let them know

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that you're not gonna give up that's

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when things change because they are

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trained by every single company out

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there that if you ignore a salesperson

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two to three times they disappear and

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how much easier is it to just make

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somebody disappear than having to have a

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confronting conversation and tell

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somebody that you're not going to go

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ahead with something it's so much easier

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and what do people do they go to the

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path of least resistance and the path of

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least resistance is to ignore you until

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you tell them that you are somebody that

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it's impossible to ignore because you'd

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never ever stop following up like I used

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follow up people forever like I got when

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I was on the telephone so I was

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following people for three years because

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you just stay in the deal

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forever forever and that's the part

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about building out that pipeline if

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you've got someone you sent out a prop

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to and make qualified and they own a

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legitimate business and they're turning

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over 500,000 or

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million or two million or five million

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why would you ever give up on that

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prospect if they agreed to getting a

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proposal just because they've stopped

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picking up your telephone calls and that

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pipeline is building but more often than

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not you guys are saying die on those

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leads and they're saying die on you

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because you've called the guy three or

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four times and you think he's not

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interested anymore he's still interested

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he still owns a business he still needs

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to get more customers you just gotta

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stay in those deals when because nobody

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is following that guy off for three to

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six months let alone a year nobody there

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every single sales person lose steam and

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they try to go for the lowest line fruit

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no one will ever say Sabri this has been

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fantastic I'm looking to make a decision

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in the next two days please call me back

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right no one will ever say that to me

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everyone will always say yeah it's gonna

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be two to three weeks or not this

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quarter or not this financial year or I

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need to speak to the Father Christmas or

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whoever it is right so I want the

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opportunity to handle that objection

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otherwise what people either I said at

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the start of the call everyone will

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always lie to me and say yeah look this

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is something that we're looking to get

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sorted I'll go through the pitch I'll

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get to the end then I'll pick them out

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the prop 70% of the time they're gonna

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ghost me and they haven't told me the

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truth that this isn't something that

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they're looking to get handled right now

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I want the opportunity to handle that

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objection due at the end of that first

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call because I'm never ever gonna get

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the guy as hot as that ever again and if

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he tells me two to three weeks when he

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is at the peak of heat then I know that

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in all reality lucky that I'm gonna get

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on the call with him and not find that

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out on that second call he's cooled off

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and he's just gonna say leave it with me

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leave it with me leave it with me

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right I just pretend like it's a one

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call clothes so it's whatever works for

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different people but what I'm trying to

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do is get that person to a situation

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where I'm finding the honest truth if

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someone tells you that they need to

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think about it what they're really

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saying is that

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an objection in my head that I'm not

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telling you right and I'm not will I

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don't trust you enough to tell you this

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objection right now because they already

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know whether or not they're going to go

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ahead with that so whether you do it at

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the start a call or you do it at the end

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of the call it doesn't change a lot

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because still whether majority the deals

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are going to be done being done is on

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that follow-up you are in the biggest

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position of power before you save that

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person or proposal that is the pinnacle

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of your power is in that time as soon as

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you send out the prop the dynamic

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changes you have given me what I need to

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make a decision now and I'll just do as

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I please I've got this proposal in my

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back pocket I'll pick up your calls if I

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want to pick them up I'll say I'm gonna

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go ahead when I want to give up I will

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do what I want to do in it but all the

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things all the objections that I've got

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in here you need to use all of these to

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your utensils you need to have all of

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this weaponry in the holster ready to

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roll and asking people at all levels and

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when you expect it and you know it when

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it happens it's just like the judo role

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you know it's coming just rolled into it

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okay this is an objection I'm not gonna

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freak out here and think I'm losing the

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deal I'm just going to go through the

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process good job

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