Has WWE Given Up on Omos?... Dutch Mantell Reacts

Story Time with Dutch Mantell
8 Aug 202410:49

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses WWE's struggle with utilizing the talent of a 7-foot-2 giant wrestler, referred to as 'Omas.' Despite his impressive stature, Omas lacks the agility, timing, and charisma needed for a successful wrestling career. The conversation highlights his limited appearances in battle royals and house shows, with his last televised singles match against Seth Rollins at Backlash 2023. The speakers speculate on Omas's future, suggesting he may find a better fit in Japan's wrestling scene, where his potential could be more accurately assessed.

Takeaways

  • 🤼‍♂️ WWE has utilized Omas primarily in battle royals and house show matches, with limited televised singles appearances.
  • 🏆 Omas' last televised singles match was at Backlash 2023 in Puerto Rico, where he lost to Seth Rollins.
  • 📏 Despite his towering height of 7 feet 2 inches, Omas is criticized for lacking the agility, timing, and technical skills necessary for a successful wrestling career.
  • 🎭 The discussion suggests that Omas' size might be more suited to a basketball player than a wrestling giant, lacking the 'ogre-like' presence of Andre the Giant.
  • 🤔 There is a debate over whether Omas has the charisma and personality to be a wrestling superstar, with some suggesting he falls short in these areas.
  • 💡 The idea of 'idiot-proofing' a match with Omas is mentioned, implying that his matches may require extra effort from opponents to be entertaining.
  • 🎟️ Omas' size presents logistical challenges, such as needing extra space for travel and potentially being a spectacle rather than a serious competitor.
  • 🗼 Speculation that Omas might find more success in Japan, where wrestling culture might be more open to his unique attributes.
  • 📉 The creative team's struggle to find a compelling storyline or angle for Omas is highlighted, suggesting a lack of direction for his character.
  • 🔄 The concept of roster management is touched upon, with the suggestion that if a wrestler isn't working out, it might be best for them and the company to part ways.
  • 🤷‍♂️ Questions are raised about Omas' training and how he came to be in wrestling, indicating some skepticism about his background and preparation for the sport.

Q & A

  • What is the main issue with the wrestler referred to as 'Omas' in the script?

    -The main issue with Omas, as discussed in the script, is that he lacks the necessary talent and skills to be a successful wrestler apart from his size. He is described as having no agility, timing, look technique, personality, or charisma, which are essential for a wrestler to excel.

  • How has WWE utilized Omas in the past year according to the transcript?

    -WWE has mainly used Omas in three separate battle royals over the past year, with his last appearance being in the Andre the Giant Battle Royal in April 2024. Apart from that, he has only been seen in some house show matches.

  • What was Omas' last televised singles match, and who did he compete against?

    -Omas' last televised singles match was at Backlash 2023 in Puerto Rico, where he lost to Seth Rollins.

  • What are some of the physical limitations that Omas faces as a wrestler, as mentioned in the script?

    -Omas faces limitations such as his size making it difficult for him to travel on regular planes and fit in standard seating. His large stature is also suggested to hinder his agility and make him appear more like a basketball player than a traditional wrestling giant.

  • What does the speaker suggest about Omas' potential in Japan?

    -The speaker suggests that Japan might be a better place to assess Omas' potential, as they have a good track record of identifying wrestling talent. However, the expectation is that Omas might only be used occasionally and then his career would likely end.

  • What is the general consensus about Omas' in-ring performance based on the script?

    -The consensus in the script is that Omas' in-ring performance is lacking. His matches are described as short and not engaging, often boring the fans, and he is unable to hold the audience's interest for more than a few minutes.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the creative team's handling of Omas?

    -The speaker believes that the creative team has not been able to come up with compelling storylines or matches for Omas, which has led to him being underutilized and not making a significant impact in WWE.

  • How does the script describe the match between Omas and Mustafa Ali?

    -The script describes the match between Omas and Mustafa Ali as one where Mustafa Ali had to carry the match to make it watchable. Omas is said to have performed only a few moves, and the match relied heavily on Ali's performance.

  • What is suggested as a potential strategy to make a match with a large wrestler like Omas more interesting?

    -The script suggests involving a manager or other wrestlers in the match to create distractions and add some dynamism. It also mentions the possibility of having the larger wrestler be involved in a quick, decisive finish to keep the match from dragging on.

  • What is the speaker's view on the importance of a wrestler's ability to move and perform in the ring?

    -The speaker emphasizes that a wrestler's ability to move, perform, and tell a story in the ring is crucial for engaging the audience. They point out that even a large wrestler like Andre the Giant had some movement, which made his matches more interesting.

  • What is the speaker's overall assessment of Omas' potential in WWE?

    -The speaker's overall assessment is that Omas has limited potential in WWE due to his lack of wrestling talent and the inability of the creative team to find a compelling role for him. They suggest that it might be best for Omas to move on to another place where he could find a better fit.

Outlines

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🤼‍♂️ The Struggles of a WWE Giant: Omas' Lack of Progress

This paragraph discusses the WWE's handling of a large wrestler, Omas, who despite his impressive size, has not been able to make a significant impact in the wrestling world. The speaker criticizes WWE for not utilizing Omas effectively, mentioning his limited appearances in battle royals and lack of televised singles matches. The critique extends to Omas' perceived lack of wrestling talent, agility, timing, and charisma, suggesting that his size alone is not enough to make him a WWE superstar. The speaker also speculates on Omas' future, suggesting he might find more success in Japan, where wrestling culture might be more open to his style.

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🏋️‍♂️ The Challenge of Giant Wrestlers and the Creative Process

The second paragraph delves into the difficulties faced by giant wrestlers in the wrestling industry, using Omas as a case study. It touches on the challenges of creating engaging content for such performers, who often lack the agility and technical skills of their smaller counterparts. The discussion includes the importance of training and the role of creative teams in developing storylines and matches for wrestlers. The speaker also shares an anecdote about a wrestling match involving Mustafa Ali, highlighting the limitations of Omas in the ring and the need for experienced wrestlers to 'idiot-proof' matches involving less skilled performers. Additionally, there's a reflection on the creative process, suggesting that when a wrestler cannot be effectively utilized, it might be time for them to move on.

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🎭 The Mysterious Mass Man and the Art of Matchmaking

In the final paragraph, the conversation shifts to a hypothetical scenario involving a match with a giant wrestler like Omas. The speaker humorously suggests a strategy for making such a match entertaining, involving a manager who can create distractions and keep the audience engaged. The idea is to have the manager provoke the giant, leading to a chaotic but entertaining sequence that culminates in a quick finish. The paragraph also includes a playful narrative about a 'mass man' who intervenes in a match, adding a layer of intrigue and excitement to the wrestling event.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡WWE

WWE stands for World Wrestling Entertainment, a globally recognized professional wrestling company. It is central to the video's theme as the discussion revolves around the WWE's handling of a particular wrestler's career. The script mentions WWE in the context of a wrestler's participation in events like the 'Andre the Giant Battle Royal' and 'Backlash 2023 in Puerto Rico'.

💡Omas

Omas is a professional wrestler whose career within WWE is being discussed in the script. He is characterized by his large stature, which is a focal point of the conversation. The term 'Omas' is repeatedly used to discuss his lack of in-ring talent despite his size and his limited appearances in WWE events.

💡Battle Royal

A Battle Royal is a multi-wrestler match where the objective is to eliminate opponents by throwing them over the top rope until one wrestler remains. The script refers to Omas participating in three separate Battle Royals, including the 'Andre the Giant Battle Royal,' indicating his involvement in high-profile WWE events.

💡Talent

In the context of professional wrestling, 'talent' refers to a wrestler's skill set, including in-ring ability, charisma, and performance. The script discusses how Omas is perceived to lack talent beyond his physical size, which is a critical point in the analysis of his WWE career.

💡Giant

The term 'giant' in wrestling often refers to a wrestler's imposing size, which can be an asset for in-ring presence. The script contrasts Omas with historical giants like Andre the Giant, suggesting that while Omas is tall, he lacks the traditional attributes associated with wrestling giants.

💡Agility

Agility in wrestling refers to a wrestler's ability to move quickly and gracefully in the ring. The script mentions that Omas is missing agility, which is a key component of a successful wrestler's skill set and contributes to the overall critique of his in-ring performance.

💡Charisma

Charisma in wrestling is the ability to connect with the audience and draw emotional responses. The script humorously suggests that despite lacking other skills, Omas has charisma, which is ironically contrasted with his other perceived shortcomings.

💡House Show

A house show in wrestling is a non-televised event held regularly by wrestling promotions. The script mentions Omas participating in house shows, indicating that much of his wrestling appearances have been outside of the main televised events.

💡Backlash 2023

Backlash is a recurring pay-per-view event in WWE. The script refers to Omas' last televised singles match at 'Backlash 2023 in Puerto Rico,' where he lost to Seth Rollins, providing a specific example of his in-ring performance.

💡Seth Rollins

Seth Rollins is a professional wrestler and a character in the script who defeated Omas in a match at 'Backlash 2023.' His mention serves to provide a benchmark for evaluating Omas' wrestling skills.

💡Creative

In wrestling, 'creative' refers to the team responsible for developing storylines and character arcs. The script discusses the creative team's struggle to find a suitable role or storyline for Omas, highlighting the challenges in utilizing his character effectively.

💡Mustafa Ali

Mustafa Ali is another professional wrestler mentioned in the script, who had a match with Omas. The discussion around their match serves to illustrate the perceived lack of action and movement when Omas is involved, emphasizing his limitations as a performer.

💡Bobby Lashley

Bobby Lashley is a wrestler who, like Omas, is known for his size and strength. The script compares Omas to Lashley, suggesting a similar issue with creative direction and utilization within WWE.

Highlights

WWE has seemingly given up on Omas, a 7-foot-2 giant, who has appeared in three separate battle royals in the past year.

Omas' last televised singles match was at Backlash 2023 in Puerto Rico, where he lost to Seth Rollins.

Omas is criticized for lacking talent beyond his size, with no agility, timing, look technique, or personality.

Despite his size, Omas is compared to a basketball player rather than a traditional giant like Andre the Giant.

Omas' gimmick is his size, and his lack of in-ring ability could make him look ridiculous if he attempted to wrestle.

It took WWE three years to realize Omas' limitations and his potential for being called 'fired soon'.

Omas' size presents logistical issues, such as needing two first-class seats to travel.

There is speculation that Omas might find more success in Japan, where wrestling culture may be more accepting of his limitations.

Omas' lack of believability as a babyface or heel makes it difficult to create a compelling wrestling narrative for him.

The creative team's struggle to come up with ideas for Omas suggests it might be time for him to move on from WWE.

Omas' match with Mustafa Ali was lackluster, with Ali carrying the match due to Omas' limited moveset.

Omas' training and how he got into wrestling is questioned, as his performance suggests a lack of proper coaching.

Omas is from Lagos, Nigeria, and has been with WWE since 2019, with little done to develop his character.

Vince McMahon's preference for big wrestlers like Omas is highlighted, despite their lack of in-ring performance.

Omas' matches are short, often not exceeding five to seven minutes, due to the limited entertainment value.

The concept of 'idiot-proofing' a match with a less mobile giant like Omas is discussed, suggesting using a manager to create distractions.

The conversation ends with the participants expressing their disinterest in further discussing Omas due to his lack of impact.

Transcripts

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WWE seems to have pretty much given up

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on Omas you know the big giant guy like

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7 foot2 yep anyway he's featured in

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three separate battle Royals over the

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past year last being seen in the Andre

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the Giant Battle Royal back in April of

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2024 and aside from some House show

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matches that's all anybody's ever seen

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of him apart from I think his last

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televised singles match was at backlash

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2023 in Puerto Rico that's how long

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we're going back and where he lost to

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Seth Rollins

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so what's he missing what's going

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on what's he missing the main thing he's

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missing is

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Talent he has no Talent other than

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being what 7 foot three or whatever he

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is yeah he's a giant he really is but

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he's more like a just a very tall man

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it's like when I think of a giant I

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think of the ogre likee face of Andre

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the Giant yes something like that I mean

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he's a big dude but when you say giant

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he looks more like a basketball player

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yeah well the only thing he's missing is

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agility

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timing

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look technique

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personality but other than that he has

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everything you need to be a superstar

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charisma

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he's he's just not going to I could have

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told you that the first day that I saw

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him walk out there he's too big anyway

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he's just that's his gimmick and if he

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went out there if he went out there and

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and tried to wrestle he would look more

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ridiculous than he does now so he he's

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he's not going to make it and it took

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them three years to figure it out and he

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put him in they put him in three battle

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Royals that he w none of them right oh

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none of them see

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so and putting in oh the what what do

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they call him the African what something

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to call him fired soon they won be

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calling him at all but okay okay you're

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Omas let's let's all be Omas for a

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minute I don't want to be in for too

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long but you got that check every week

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or every two weeks and you did nothing

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you stayed home

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see him traveling he can't get on a

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regular plane and even in a in a first

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he'd have to have first he had have to

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have two first class

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seats to even forget putting him in

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coach you know he can't even get down

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the aisle he's so big so there is a uh a

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drawback on on being that

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big at least Andre had a little movement

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to him not

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much but if you watch some of of Andre's

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matches in Japan he could do a few

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things so he may have been half drunk

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when he was doing them but he did them

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and Omas I think that's that's where we

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might see him next is Japan they will

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they'll bring him over and they just

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won't wear him out I think Japan has is

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a better uh Arbiter of whether anybody

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has any potential or not and they'll

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bring him over and then they may use him

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twice a year for a while and I think

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then he'll be done I don't know what

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else he can do did H did he watch that

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match that I sent you it was with I put

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Muhammad Ali I think it me Mustafa

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Ali Mustafa Ali three moves well yeah

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but without Mustafa Ali in that match

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that match would have no action at all

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and I don't even know what what

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program they can do with him what angle

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they can do with him because I don't

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think he solicits any sympathy as a baby

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face and I don't know even as a heel I

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don't I don't think he's has a

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believability of factor about him so I

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don't think I don't think you could

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match you up with anyone did we talk

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last week about Bobby

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lley we did yes we did and I think it's

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the same problem creative if creative

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says we don't have anything for you

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that's because they just can't think of

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anything sometimes if you're in creative

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and a name is popped in front of you

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what can we do and they might give you a

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day to think about it and come back in

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and give your give your uh

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ideas what what you think you can do

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with a certain guy if nothing hits you

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an oldtime Booker told me this one time

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he says when you write the name down and

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nothing is hitting you it's time for

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that guy to move on

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and it's not personal it's all business

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but if you C you can think of nothing to

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do with a guy the best thing to do is

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let him go on and find him another

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another place to go and replace him with

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somebody you have ideas

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for because he he can just tie up a spot

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on the roster that's not doing him any

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good and damn sure not doing your

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company are you any good now I didn't I

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don't think I remember seeing versus

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Seth Rollins I sent you the Mustafa Ali

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thing yeah I remember the Bobby Lashley

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match not being too bad WrestleMania

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last year I think but with the Mustafa

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Ali thing he does three moves I can't

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remember what one of them is but one of

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them is and I never want to see a giant

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do this a running shoulder

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tackle and keep in mind that he's like

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18 Ines taller than Mustafa RI apart

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from the fact that it's a stupid move

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for a giant to do he had to duck and go

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like that it barely touched him and then

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and then he did like that double-handed

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choke bomb thing and he couldn't even

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get him high yeah I was like yeah well

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who trained him if I don't think he's

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been trained tell you the truth how did

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he even get into wrestling it's good

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question I'm GNA actually look that up

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for you right the second so and where is

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where is he from he is from uh logos

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Nigeria so he just signed with WWE he

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just I think he just passed the

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performance

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tests you know of height and they said

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okay well then let's do it that's it

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he's never wrestled for anyone else

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apart from

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WWE and how long has he been there since

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2019 five

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years five years and they've done

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nothing with him no he

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debuted uh in late 2020 tagging with AJ

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Styles I'll get it yeah okay well we're

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going to move on okay 20 29 19 2020

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that's during the Vince years and Vince

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loved literally love big monsters like

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that he liked that whether they could

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work or not but for to get him over

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guess what you got to have you got to

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have somebody that can actually do

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something actually sell his moves

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actually perform and move

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around and and you can tell a story like

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that for a while

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but how quickly does it take that act

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that performance of Omas to bore the

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fans none of his matches went more than

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five or six minutes seven minutes at the

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most because of by the time he spent

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that much time in the ring he's already

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shown what he can do so it's time to go

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to get a Coke and let's go to the

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concession stand it was a concession

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match every time you went out there so

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just to and I'm saying that with the

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kindest of intentions of course battle

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Royals don't count uh 10 and a half

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minutes for Seth Rollins amazingly but

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then everything else is 49 seconds 1

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minute 44 Brock Lesnar went under five

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minutes I seem to remember that might

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have been the opener for Wrestlemania 1

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minute 50 seconds Royal Rumble 2 minutes

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25 3 minutes that's the one with the

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liias that I actually watched as well 2

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minutes 25 and they had nothing but

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distractions by MVP they had

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to they had to stretch it to get to 2

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minutes 25 on that one anyway enough

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about Omas Let's uh carry on to the next

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bit of news that we've got here see even

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Omas is boring for you to talk

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about and you already we've already

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talked about him more than his matches

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existed n minutes nine minutes with who

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we've talked about Omas oh really yes

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what the hell I know tell me and okay he

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went he went 10 minutes with Seth

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Rollins yes and that was all Seth oh yes

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it was all said putting it together

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because he has enough experience and

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enough wisdom to know that this match is

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really gonna suck unless I get off my

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ass and do something idiot you can't

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expect OS to do anything what's idiot

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proofing a match how how would you idiot

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proof a match like that with who was

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Seth and well yeah let's say you're

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wrestling omos or whoever or some other

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a mobile giant like giant Gonzalez or

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Elan so you know well I'd have the match

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with the

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manager basically it's what I do I can't

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do nothing with him and he starts

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laughing I said well you bastard and I'd

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try to go after him

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or and I'd run around and he'd run

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around I'd slide back in there and he'd

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keep messing with me messing with me

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messing with me and finally at the end I

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would have Omas go off his feet

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somehow and then all of a sudden the

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manager you know he grabs at me but this

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time I catch him and I roll him in a

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ring and I'd get a that'd be the only

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time they'd get up and I'd punch him a

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couple times boom boom boom then we do

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the Finish quick and get out of there

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see that's the truth and and then when I

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would leave I I'd have a hood and I

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throw it over my head so nobody could

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tell it was me and I'd leave they said

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who was that mass man that was in

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there Texas dirt yeah don't tell anybody

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don't tell anybody

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oh

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