Should You "Debloat" Windows?

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7 Jul 202404:47

Summary

TLDRThe video advises against using debloated Windows ISOs like Atlas OS, highlighting security risks and minimal performance gains. Despite claims of lower CPU and RAM usage and improved gaming FPS, real-world tests show negligible benefits. Issues with system stability and compatibility are also noted. The video suggests that switching to Linux offers better performance for struggling systems and recommends against Atlas OS for those seeking marginal performance improvements on already serviceable systems.

Takeaways

  • ⚠️ Warning against installing debloated ISOs of Windows due to potential security risks and unknown modifications.
  • 🛑 Disabling of core system features like Windows Defender in Atlas OS for performance claims is highlighted as a concern.
  • 🎮 Claims of performance benefits in gaming with Atlas OS are questioned, with real-world tests showing minimal differences.
  • 🤔 Tech Team GB's research suggests that Atlas OS's performance benefits are negligible, with no significant FPS increase.
  • 📉 Mention of a case where CPU utilization decreased significantly, but it's unclear if this translates to tangible benefits in gaming.
  • 💻 The importance of considering that performance increases on idle do not necessarily equate to gains in intensive tasks.
  • 🔄 Issues with compatibility and missing features reported by users of Atlas OS, indicating potential instability.
  • 👨‍💻 Contributor interactions with users suggest possible negligence in addressing long-standing issues with Atlas OS.
  • 🚫 The recommendation against using Atlas OS for those seeking marginal performance gains, due to the risks involved.
  • 🔄 For systems struggling with Windows, switching to Linux distributions may offer better performance without the need for system reinstallation.
  • 📚 The lack of documentation on Windows' inner workings makes it difficult to guarantee the safety and efficacy of system modification tools like Atlas OS.

Q & A

  • What is the main warning given about using debloated or gaming-focused Windows ISOs?

    -The main warning is that you should not install any debloated ISO of Windows because you are not aware of what modifications have been made, which could compromise your security by disabling built-in security features.

  • What are the claims made by the Atlas OS script regarding system performance?

    -The Atlas OS script claims that it will significantly reduce CPU and RAM usage, resulting in more FPS in games, and they have conducted benchmarking to support these claims.

  • What security features does the Atlas OS script disable according to the script?

    -The script disables core isolation and, most importantly, Windows Defender as a whole.

  • What did Tech Team GB find in their research into Atlas OS's performance benefits?

    -Tech Team GB found virtually no difference in performance benefits, with numbers not differing by more than five frames in their gaming test.

  • What is the general consensus on the performance increase when using Atlas OS based on the script?

    -The script suggests that the performance increases on idle do not translate to tangible benefits during intensive tasks, and the performance benefits are marginal at best.

  • What issues have users reported with Atlas OS according to the script?

    -Users have reported issues concerning compatibility and removed features, with some cases showing negligence in addressing these problems.

  • Why is it risky to use tools like Atlas OS that modify or remove services and packages from Windows?

    -It is risky because Windows is a closed-source system, and the inner workings are not well documented enough to ensure that modifying or removing services does not harm the system's stability or integrity.

  • What is the recommendation for users who already have a system running Windows and don't want to try Linux?

    -The recommendation is not to use Atlas OS or similar tools, as the potential performance increase is not worth the risk and the effort of reinstalling the entire system.

  • What alternative is suggested for systems that struggle to run Windows, instead of using Atlas OS?

    -The script suggests switching to even the most bloated distributions of Linux, as they can provide performance advantages that are not matched by Atlas OS.

  • What is the final verdict on using Atlas OS for squeezing performance out of a system, according to the script?

    -The final verdict is that Atlas OS is an underwhelming option and not worth the risk or the marginal increase in performance for those who already have a decently performing system.

Outlines

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🚫 Warning Against Debloated Windows ISOs

The video script begins with a strong warning against using debloated or gaming-focused Windows ISOs like Atlas OS and Tiny 11, which are promoted as lighter and more efficient alternatives to standard Windows installations. The speaker emphasizes the risks involved, such as unknown modifications, removal of essential packages and services, and the disabling of built-in security features like Windows Defender, which can compromise system security.

🤔 Questioning the Benefits of Atlas OS

The script proceeds to question the purported advantages of Atlas OS, which claims to offer reduced CPU and RAM usage and increased FPS in games. The speaker points out that the script's own benchmarking may be misleading, as it disables core isolation and Windows Defender to exaggerate benefits. Real-world tests by Tech Team GB found minimal performance differences, suggesting that Atlas OS may not live up to its claims.

🔍 Investigating Atlas OS Performance and Issues

Further investigation into Atlas OS's performance is discussed, with some tests showing a more significant performance increase, reducing CPU utilization from over 10% to 2-3%. However, the speaker cautions that such idle performance improvements may not translate to tangible benefits during intensive tasks. Additionally, user reports of compatibility issues and unresolved feature removals raise concerns about the stability and integrity of systems modified by Atlas OS.

🛑 Discouraging the Use of Atlas OS

The speaker concludes by discouraging the use of Atlas OS, especially for those whose systems already perform well with Windows. The potential risks and the marginal performance gains do not justify the effort of reinstalling the entire system. For systems struggling with Windows, the speaker suggests that switching to Linux distributions might offer better performance improvements without the risks associated with modifying a closed-source system like Windows.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Debloating

Debloating refers to the process of removing unnecessary or unused components from a system to make it lighter and potentially more efficient. In the context of the video, debloating is discussed as a method used by some Windows ISOs and scripts like Atlas OS to reduce system resource usage, which is claimed to improve performance. However, the video warns against this practice due to potential security risks and the removal of integral system features.

💡Windows ISOs

A Windows ISO is an image file of a Windows operating system installation disc. In the video, the speaker advises against installing 'debloated' or modified ISOs of Windows because they may contain unknown modifications that could compromise system security and functionality. The video emphasizes the importance of using official, unmodified Windows installations.

💡Security Features

Security features are components of an operating system designed to protect the system from threats. The video mentions that debloated Windows ISOs often remove or disable built-in security features, such as Windows Defender and core isolation, which can leave the system vulnerable to attacks. This is a significant concern as it directly relates to the integrity and safety of the user's system.

💡Performance Benchmarking

Performance benchmarking is the process of testing a system's performance under controlled conditions to compare it with other systems or to measure improvements. The video references benchmarking conducted by the creators of Atlas OS to support their claims of performance improvements. However, the video also points out that these benchmarks may be misleading or exaggerated.

💡CPU and RAM Usage

CPU and RAM usage refer to the amount of processing power and memory being utilized by the system. The video discusses how Atlas OS claims to reduce CPU and RAM usage, which is supposed to result in better performance. However, the video also questions the real-world benefits of such reductions, suggesting that they may not translate to noticeable improvements in gaming or other intensive tasks.

💡FPS (Frames Per Second)

FPS stands for frames per second, a measure of how many individual frames are displayed in one second of video or gameplay. The video mentions that proponents of debloating claim it can lead to a higher FPS in games. However, the video also cites a real-world test that found little to no difference in FPS when using a debloated system.

💡Tech Team GB

Tech Team GB is a YouTuber and tech reviewer mentioned in the video who conducted research into the performance benefits of Atlas OS. Their findings did not support the claims made by Atlas OS, showing minimal to no difference in performance, which challenges the notion that debloating significantly improves gaming experience.

💡Compatibility Issues

Compatibility issues arise when a system, application, or software does not work properly with other components. The video discusses user reports of compatibility problems with Atlas OS, such as issues with the Microsoft Store, indicating that debloating may lead to unforeseen problems with system functionality.

💡Linux Distributions

Linux distributions are different versions of the Linux operating system, each with its own set of features and configurations. The video suggests that switching to a Linux distribution might provide better performance benefits than using a debloated Windows system, especially considering the risks and minimal gains associated with debloating.

💡System Stability

System stability refers to the reliability and consistency of a system's performance over time. The video raises concerns about the potential for reduced system stability due to the removal of services and packages in debloated Windows systems, as this can affect the overall integrity and long-term reliability of the system.

💡Closed Source

Closed source describes software whose source code is not available to the public, unlike open-source software. The video points out that because Windows is closed source, users cannot verify the full impact of removing services and packages, which adds an element of risk when using debloated versions of the system.

Highlights

Warning against installing debloated ISOs of Windows due to potential security risks and unknown modifications.

Discussion on alternatives to Linux, such as Atlas OS and Tiny 11, claimed to be lighter and more efficient than Windows.

Advantages of trimming down systems like reduced CPU and RAM usage, and increased FPS in games, as claimed by Atlas OS.

Transparency of Atlas OS in benchmarking but with the caveat of disabling core security features.

Critique of benchmarking methods used by Atlas OS to exaggerate benefits.

Independent research by Tech Team GB showing minimal performance difference with Atlas OS.

Contrasting results from another test showing a more noticeable performance increase with Atlas OS.

Consideration that performance increases on idle do not necessarily translate to tangible benefits during intensive tasks.

Reports of compatibility and feature removal issues from Atlas OS users.

Concerns about the stability and integrity of systems when services and packages are removed without proper knowledge.

The risk of using tools that modify closed-source systems like Windows, where inner workings are not well documented.

Verdict that Atlas OS is not recommended for those seeking marginal performance increases without the need for a system reinstall.

Suggestion that for systems struggling with Windows, switching to Linux distributions might provide better performance benefits.

Highlighting the importance of considering the stability and long-term usage of a system when making modifications.

Final recommendation to avoid using Atlas OS for those whose systems already run Windows satisfactorily.

Emphasis on the lack of worth in the performance increase offered by Atlas OS, considering the risks involved.

Transcripts

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go on try it out Peter that doesn't look

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entirely go

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on Peter I'm really not comfortable

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stepping foot on this I got to leave in

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like 5 minutes is this Scotch

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tap Lear oh you drunk many a time in my

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comment sections I see the mentions of

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debloated or gaming focused windows isos

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or scripts such as Atlas OS and Tiny 11

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these are usually presented as

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alternatives to Linux and are touted as

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being less heavy and more efficient than

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a regular Windows installation now full

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stop do not ever install any debloated

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ISO of Windows whatsoever you are not

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aware of what they have done to modify

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or cleanse windows and these isos

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usually MIM the system removing integral

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packages and services and most

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importantly compromising your security

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by disabling built-in security features

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now obviously I wouldn't recommend

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downloading Windows in the first place

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but if you have to and if isos are off

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the table what about arguably the most

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popular script in this vein Atlas OS

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well first of all what are the

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advantages to Ming or trimming down your

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system well on the atlas OS website the

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script claims that you're going to have

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significantly less CPU and RAM usage and

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you're going to see a lot more FPS than

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your favorite games and for transparency

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sake they even added a little post

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therein they conducted their

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benchmarking now for those of you who

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are astute you'll notice that they

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disable a fairly meager security feature

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like core isolation and disable the most

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important one one Windows Defender as a

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whole now obviously this Benchmark was

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done to the extreme as to inflate their

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projected benefits as most people are

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not going to choose to disable such

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features but speaking of most people

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besides Atlas os's very own metrics how

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do real world tests really stack up well

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fellow YouTuber and nerd Tech Team GB

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conducted his very own research into

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Atlas os's supposed performance benefits

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and found virtually nothing the numbers

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shown didn't even differ close to or

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Beyond five frames in his very own

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gaming test the test showed similar and

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arguably even worse results for Atlas

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os's Advantage concerning latency well

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that's just one such case so what about

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other results well this curious result

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showed a more noticeable increase in

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performance showing a decrease from over

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10% CPU utilization to around 2 to 3%

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now before you pack up your bags and go

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install Atlas OS one very important

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thing to consider is that on any

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reasonably performing CPU performance

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increases on idle just don't translate

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to anything all that tangible when doing

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intensive tasks on your computer having

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less Services is not the only factor and

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simply doesn't translate to something

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like gaming as shown in Tech Team gb's

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video not only that but Atlas os's very

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own forms seem to be plagued with users

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constantly reporting issues concerning

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compatibility and removed features now

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I'm sure a fair few of these are people

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who are simply clueless about the fine

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prints of what Atlas os does to your

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system however however a few curious

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cases like a contributor being testy

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with the user concerning a problem with

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Microsoft Store not working that has

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been extent for nearly a year and one

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user reporting the same issue multiple

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times to no avail may show some

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negligence but I'm not making any

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sweeping claims as the evidence is a bit

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inconclusive however these are things to

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consider in the end Atlas OS seems like

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a very underwhelming option for those

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who already perform decently on their

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system in search of squeezing another

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drop of performance out going through

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the trouble of reinstalling your entire

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system only to have a marginal increase

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in gaming performance is not the most

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appealing cell so I wouldn't recommend

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it as for systems that struggle to run

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Windows flat out Atlas OS simply doesn't

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provide any performance advantages that

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are not matched or far exceeded by

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simply switching to even the most

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bloated distributions of Linux

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especially considering that you have to

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reinstall your system just to reap these

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benefits an important concern also

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arises from the untested and frankly

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unstable nature of removing services and

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packages from Windows without forn

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knowledge of what is to happen and

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despite how tested Atlas OS may appear

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to be you cannot verifiably say that

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Ming these services does not harm your

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system's stability or Integrity as

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Windows is closed source and messing

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with or removing binaries on a closed

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Source system is quite risky at best and

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detrimental to long-term system usage at

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worst windows's inner workings are

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simply not well documented enough to

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make an airtight claim on the efficacy

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of these deep loading tools so my

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verdict is that if you have a system

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running Windows and you don't want to

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try your hand at Linux don't use this

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tool if your system runs serviceably

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anyways it just isn't worth the risk and

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it really isn't worth the meager

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increase in performance that's all

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cheers

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