EPISODE 524 | Samkelo's Take on Acting, Adulting, Intimacy Riders, Bomb Production, Music, Feminism

Summary

This video script covers a wide-ranging conversation between MacG, Sol Phenduka, and actress Samkelo Ndlovu on the Podcast and Chill show. They discuss various topics including Samkelo's acting roles, social issues around transactional relationships, feminism, shortcuts people take to success, the influence of social media on youth, voting, and the conflict in Congo. The conversation provides insight into Samkelo's experiences and views, touching on relationships, politics, social media, youth culture and more in an open, candid discussion.

Takeaways

• 😊 The guests reminisce about being at the same primary school and joke about visiting to see if their names are still on honor boards
• 😮 The actress shares about taking a 2-year break from acting to focus on music but ended up making songs with various artists instead
• 👩‍❤️‍👨 The actress reveals she's dating an award-winning director who directed her intimate scenes in the Adulting show
• 🎭 She advocates for intimacy coaches on sets to facilitate discussions around consent and comfort with intimate scenes
• 📺 She promotes her new detective show RAA airing on Thursdays which she contrasts to Adulting
• 💰 The guests discuss the shortcut culture in transactional relationships and sex work
• 🤔 They critique how social media warps youth aspirations and relationships standards
• 😣 The actress refuses to divulge private details around past relationships with Trevor Noah and a famous married actor
• ❤️ She expresses concern around human rights violations and exploitation of children for mining cobalt in Congo
• 🗳️ When asked about elections and politics, she abstains from stating any allegiance but wishes people would vote more

Q & A

What was the context behind Sam going to her old primary school?

Sam was driving past her old primary school one day and had the idea to go inside to see if her name was still on any of the boards or plaques, since she attended school there when she was younger.

What prevented Sam from going inside the school?

The school was closed when Sam tried to go inside, so she was unable to enter and look for evidence of her name.

What does Sam think TK would be good at, performance-wise?

Sam thinks TK is very funny based on his performance in the Shaka role, and suggests he should try comedy next since she believes he would excel at it.

How does Sam describe the dynamic between her character Minky and Moonchild's character on Adulting?

Sam says she and Moonchild's characters were best friends on the show. However, based on Sam's reluctant answers, it seems they may no longer be as close in real life now.

What is Sam's perspective on feminism and women's sexual autonomy?

Sam believes that modern feminism and independence ideas are actually part of an agenda to emasculate both black men and women. However, she does support women having autonomy over their bodies and sexuality.

What does Sam think drives young people to take shortcuts and sell their bodies?

Sam believes high unemployment plus overstimulation from social media depicting luxury lifestyles leads youths to want quick money even through sex work rather than working long hours in real jobs.

How did Sam's boyfriend end up directing her in sex scenes for Adulting?

Sam's boyfriend is an award-winning director she was already dating during her acting break. When she returned and got the Adulting role requiring sex scenes, he ended up being assigned to direct those scenes.

Who is the Hollywood actor Sam had a fling with?

Sam refuses to name the actor to avoid revealing his identity. She only shares that he is a well-known British lead who plays Americans and is now married.

What does Sam want people to know about her connection to Trevor Noah?

There is no story between them. Sam simply declined an advance from Trevor in the past because she was already dating someone else at the time.

What is Sam's perspective on the conflict in Congo?

Sam is very concerned about the extreme violence and injustice happening in Congo, especially toward women and children. She wants more intervention to protect innocents.

Outlines

00:00

😊 Nostalgic visit to primary school

She recently drove by her old primary school to see if her name was still on the awards boards, but the school was closed so she could not go inside.

05:02

😆 Reminiscing about past podcast episode

She recalls being a guest on episode 17 of the podcast before there was a regular production crew. She and the host were flirting like exes with sexual tension.

10:03

😂 Requesting guest to share funny Trevor Noah story

The host urges the guest to share a supposedly amusing story about Trevor Noah despite her reluctance.

15:08

🤩 Actors' intimacy precautions explained

She explains the safety precautions like intimacy coordinators and minimal nudity guarantees that actors can request during sex scenes to make sure no boundaries are crossed.

20:16

😊 Encouraging fans of her 'Adulting' character to also watch her in 'Raaka'

She promotes her lead role as a detective in the police drama series 'Raaka', encouraging her fans from 'Adulting' to watch the show if they enjoy crime series.

25:16

😏 Coy about past intimate encounter

She vaguely alludes to an intimate encounter with an unnamed Hollywood actor but refuses to provide any specific identifying details.

30:17

😌 Philosophical takes on transactional dating culture

She shares philosophical takes on feminism, patriarchy, gender roles, opportunism, and other social theories related to transactional intimate relationships.

35:23

😕 Disappointment with apathetic Gen Z workforce

They express disappointment about reports that Gen Z displays a poor work ethic and lack of motivation compared to previous generations.

40:23

🤔 Speculates about private celebrity parties

They speculate lightheartedly about whether some celebrities host secret private parties, although she clarifies that she herself just has innocent children's parties.

45:23

😶 Tight-lipped about Trevor Noah dating rumors

Despite the host's prodding, she refuses to comment on rumors of romantic history with Trevor Noah.

50:24

☺️ Grateful for acting career blessings

She credits her acting success to blessings from her ancestors, for whom she had a thanksgiving ceremony.

55:25

😠 Responds to tabloid gossip item

She vents irritation over a tabloid gossip item about her owing someone money, clarifying details to defend herself.

00:26

😊 Currently excited about mystery streaming project

She shares excitement about an upcoming streaming project that she cannot reveal details about yet as she prepares for the first script reading.

05:33

😕 Estranged from 'Adulting' costar Moonchild

When asked, her coy response reveals that she is no longer as close with her 'Adulting' costar Moonchild Sanelly as they used to be.

Keywords

💡podcast

A podcast is a recorded audio or video program that can be downloaded to listen to or watch. This video is a podcast where the hosts interview guests and have conversations. It is called 'Podcast and Chill'.

💡interview

An interview is a conversation between two or more people where questions are asked to obtain information from the interviewee. In this video, the hosts interview actress Samantha as their guest.

💡actress

An actress is a female actor or performer. Samantha is an actress who has acted in shows like 'Adulting' and 'Raa'.

💡adulting

'Adulting' is a TV show that Samantha acts in. It depicts the lives of young South African adults.

💡feminism

Feminism refers to the advocacy of women's rights and equality between sexes. Samantha shares her views on modern feminism and female autonomy.

💡Congo

Congo is a country in Africa with political conflicts. Samantha talks about the injustices happening there that need more awareness.

💡sex industry

The sex industry involves businesses around sexual services or entertainment like strip clubs. They discuss the sex industry and women selling their bodies.

💡elections

Elections refer to voting during political campaigns to elect leaders and governments. When asked about upcoming elections, Samantha wishes people would vote more.

💡trauma

Trauma refers to emotional damage caused by distressing events. Regarding characters in 'Adulting', Samantha says they are both traumatized.

💡friendship

Friendship describes the relationship between friends. Samantha implies her friendship with Moonchild has changed over time when asked if they are close.

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Transcripts

to to to Old Primary School the other

day like on Monday I know I was driving

past I was like oh let me go inside

to see if my name is still in the boards

yeah yeah yeah I was closed so I

couldn't go

inside is this T yes that's T my

goodness I haven't seen this one so

funny and I feel like the next thing he

should show us is a comedy I think he

would do amazing I'm telling you cuz he

killed Shaka bro he killed Shaka no in

his

P they there

[Laughter]

[Applause]

they please tell everyone about the

Trevor NOA story no come on what was the

Trevor NOA

please

please

[Music]

[Music]

yeah what what you guys talking about

about the what no I wasn't oh what were

what were you asking for oh man it was a

joke come on she so remember you asked

for my cup yes and so um he already had

three cups and gave me one yeah so I

gave her one then now I'm left for two

cups you asked for one cup then I was

like you mixing up with my Double Cup

Swag yeah so I said ah have you seen how

many cups scbs are holdes yes and then I

was like I'm a

cup wow

H is in good no man I'm a cop come on

but what is this thing that you have

there oh B Bon P cuz he was also saying

that uh Gaba

has but mine is old it's it's hairless

now okay has no more hair how do you how

do you get that like what do you have to

do to get that um a traditional ceremony

uh mine was just for Thanksgiving oh

nice beautiful yeah I was just thankful

for it's

important yeah and the blessings teasing

my ancestors nice how long

ago um I think it was the December of

2022 yeah damn you've had that for for

almost over a year now yeah it takes

quite a long time to First

it yes and then it has to fall off so it

has to find its own like I don't know if

you can touch it like weak

spots wow so it's probably going to fall

off from there yeah yeah and you can't

uh take it off like we have to have it

on yeah it has to fall off wow yeah I

don't know is that like a Zulu culture

cuz we don't do that in vend I don't

know if we do actually no I haven't seen

people in Venda do it it's more

like yeah mostly I'ma and I'm Zulu so so

you should have one I've never had one

ever in my

life you know but yeah it's not in my

yeah I was about to say maybe they just

don't do

it they do there's

different

[Music]

Vibes you know so it's different um it's

different but some would Sayer I

remember I was listening to someone's

interview s explained it you know that

now others but the dialect is the same I

think but is the cultures aren't yeah I

think with the divisions of the tribes

within

the yes so we also have our own stuff

true true yeah so is it a better woman

like if it falls at a certain time let's

say it falls having no it doesn't matter

it doesn't matter when it

falls oh it can lose oh it

can

oh my God oh my

God that intentional though ladies and

Gentlemen please welcome back one of the

OG she's an OG Chiller bro even before

you knew what the podcast and chill is

all about she

was shout out we did uh episode 17

together cheers before we had a producer

before we had ghost lady a crew

literally we shot it at cotton Lounge in

in in in Brinston orever it is amazing

it was me her and I think cat master was

the the guy the video guy

C catastrophic shots if you go back and

see them shout out to cat Master you're

going to watch that episode me and her

were flirting like a you

could swear we were exes dude the sexual

tension yeah how did you guys get rid of

it

like

you late I'm married now I'm married oh

no oh no

oh who me and and I found out during

that interview that we went to the same

Primary

School oh yeah that green primary school

I actually went to to to Old Primary

School the other day like on Monday I

know I was driving past I was like oh

let me go inside to see if my name

is still in the boards yeah yeah yeah

yeah I was close so I couldn't go inside

what's your name meaning it was not

there oh please tell them wasn't it

sucer

everything play

rugby I think oh no no Cricket I'm lying

yeah Victor lorum I was there my name is

there what's victori you would know if

you went there is it a school no it's

like a special award yeah for special

kids

yeah like how

special special special needs no or

special a good special yeah like you're

just so good at

everything like come louder it's like

come louder what you one of those kids

who did tennis rugby Cricket toen black

boy yeah what happened I met alcohol you

don't have to lie for him no for real

like

really had a bunch of white

friends Dean Dean my best friend he's

now um he's a gambler so he's like one

of the best gamblers in the in the world

yeah so he travels All Around the World

in

Vegas

good Champion something Money Maker the

funny surname is that you could poker I

am I am uh my boyfriend told me and in

fact before that he was really like you

know into it and I was always

like um and then he was like you'd

actually actually be so good at this and

I said why he said cuz you're an actress

and I said okay I don't get it and when

he and explained the game to me and I

played my first round I took the table

wow yeah and then he was like H maybe

it's bner like and then I kept playing

and winning is he a good poker he player

he is he is he is yeah yeah and I was

playing with like a bunch of guys I

don't know wow but that makes sense cuz

you're an actress poker

face so that's why he was like you'd

actually kill cuz it's about yeah what

does it entail it's about kind of so

whatever cards you have yeah against the

cards that are on the table um are are

going to be your final cards right so um

you could have a royal

flash uh doubles or

[Applause]

whatever oh hey knock hey KN music we

see

you okay I would say anything um uh no

no no not like that

so it so it's about tricking everybody

else into thinking that you either have

a good hand or a bad hand yeah so if you

have a good hand it's likely that you'll

try to make it seem like you don't have

a good hand so that everybody else bets

cuz the more they bet the more money you

take

home so I can just be like oh G Roy

flash flash yeah that's dope man yeah

all right play a cool game with you um

we going to we got a TV screen in the

studio here I see so we're going to play

an episode of uh adulting and every time

they have sex you have to take a

shot please can it be the episode with

the most sex I should have left my C

home don't worry one of us will will

drive you home hey what was going what

was going what was going on with with

this season bro you guys are

like every five minutes

bro I think it's a very revolutionary

show in that and this is not a plug yeah

yeah um I I took it on because I think

it's a revolutionary show because we

don't get to see ourselves like that

very often yeah and in in cinema if you

look at the history of Cinema as

well it took like 50 or 100 years for

black people to just be lit right or to

have the correct makeup he's trying to

say something sorry am I am I moving

around the Ming and stuff just going how

many times I'm going to stay here yeah

so like that perfect sorry about so um

as I was saying in cinema it took about

like a 100 years for for black artists

so black actors to just be lit right you

know lighting somebody with lighter skin

than you is different to lighting

somebody with skin like mine and yours

true true true and um I think we all

have probably our first porn or sing sex

on TV memories are white people yes

Emanuel yeah yes

about 2000

hour so I think it's revolutionary in

that it's putting a mirror to society

and saying hey guys look at yourself

we've lit you well we've shot it classy

we've gave you given you a script and

here you are that's you this is how you

and it's also a reflection of

society because we do a lot a lot

yeah a lot a lot like it's not a j like

sometimes I see I be lurking on Twitter

I'm not Twitter but some times I be

lurking sure and primarily because of

adulting but I I saw there was like an

episode where everyone was like too much

sex too much sex too

muche because

guys

we but some of those scenes look real

man they do it's because we're really

good actors

yes s now is that my closeup weren't you

scared to do um a sex SC because it

might taint you being a thespian of some

sort No in fact it solidifies me uh

because if if if the role is not scary

enough I'm not going to take it oh wow

um minky scared me throughout

shoot uh I couldn't sh gum offset

because every time I would be

like immediately I'd

go and I'm like minky go go minky

stay on set

right so for me it was scary when they

first sent it to me I was like you guys

want me to play this really they want me

to play this I said to my agent are you

sure it's this girl not this one she

said that one and I did my character

research and I said oh I get her the sex

on the other hand ah this isn't the

episode they should have been

already man like come

on that's funny F days

P um oh before you finish you were

saying's got a rider that says he can't

have sex no no no everyone has a rider

yeah what is that so so now like kids

are likey today like before when I was

acting like 14 years ago

if the scene says you guys are kissing

or you guys are going to simulate like

you guys are going to roll around under

the blankets and then we're going to cut

to like the roof and we'll give the

viewer the idea that you guys are

getting it off right and then they cut

to the next scene yeah

yeah in or if he goes overboard you have

to be the one to say stop it ah got you

right were

no well

technically why is that F it's

funny you know why oh it's

not is this yes that's oh my goodness I

Haven seen this

one short damn what position was that

it's so I want to tell tell you uh

something that people don't know about

that specific shot that specific sex

position and that scene so oh son there

we go short

short he hey I want to try that position

do you see that

[Laughter]

wow oh man not bad F you like get

it I said it's not

bad and I was I was talking I talking to

the aftertaste no I'm not saying it's

like whatever I was just talking to the

to the the effect of a shot of

Jen have I never seen you a

grand J before no oh no that's up

got fix that she's an OG man that's

up man y my love don't worry I'll

deliver it myself yes I tell ah

in what

[Laughter]

position okay let's not get too excited

all right let's go back yes so I was

talking about this specific scene yes um

it was actually a homage to um do you

remember baby boy yes by tyes tyes my

you that one yes you don't remember the

scene where his mom mom was having sex

with that guy and he was squatting her

across the the living room wow yeah so

the director was like let me give them

let me this is saying to them Yo guys

that's sin here it is again wow wow man

so before that we're talking about the

writers the writers writers yes oh thank

you ghost

lady um so yes I was saying so I was

still trying to explain back then you

would just have to do it and there'd be

no one and said and the director would

be like okay so you guys kiss

or he says yeah so you mount him and

then like nobody used to care until like

a lot of like sexual harassment things

came up um in the industry like maybe

some uh woman would come out and say Hey

you sexually harassed me two years ago

when we were on set you made my job very

difficult blah blah blah so SAR bletcher

a very famous uh director female and

South Africa she opened this company

called Swift and they are intimacy

coaches so she trains people to become

intimacy coaches and what they do is

that they come on sets and they get

you I I could never get through a

conversation Swift move

along so um they come onto

set Jesus sound dirty no they come onto

set yeah they don't come on

Set uh so they come on set and they um

basically coach you

guys so let's say it's between me and

Mac yeah

MH we do a few exercises in her presence

apart from the director nobody's there

and we talk about which part of our

bodies are green zone and what are red

zones and then um the director also

requires an intimacy riter so that he

can tell the so the intimacy writer will

say hey I'm not comfortable showing my

stomach uh no bum got you no side boob

not under boob but top boob you can show

nipple uh can show my butt from the top

and they take that writer and they give

it to the director that the director now

has the opport Unity to talk to the

cinematographer to say hey when you're

shooting this make sure you don't get

this and this and this and this and this

in shot so your side cheek is a green

zone yes cuz that's we saw my whole butt

is a green zone your boobs were not I

wanted you to actually um the cut I saw

before did show my tits because there's

a there's a part where he lifts my shirt

and

he uh sucks on my nipple yeah yeah wow

you another one

which one is this one which is this

one can yeah with another um his actual

girlfriend another Trade Me Oh that the

girlfriend on on the that's the actual

girlfriend don't put too

much so the SC that we're seeing is it

actually the actors themselves or was

it

okay

[Music]

so if your if your if your tits were

green zone why why didn't you see them

um that scene was very long so in

cutting it they cut a certain part out

um cuz it was very long cuz I think you

saw it it's the beginning of episode

5 he's on top of me and then he's behind

me then I flip him over and I'm on top

of him

so that takes a lot of setups takes like

two hours to do if if you've got like

professional actors so these guys come

on to say they give us garments to wear

so I'm dressed in a thing you don't see

it it's called a t- string so it's like

a g string but it doesn't have the sides

oh wow but it gets stuck here with like

gaffer tape oh and then it gets stuck on

the back as well and then he's wearing a

penis sock is so funny but it works so

that that uh the shulu ones the

ones oh

oh so so it will not allow them to have

an erection absolutely

not yeah

we had um we had um who's the white guy

who

produces Angus Gibson he discovered me

oh for real wow how how did that happen

um I wasn't even meant to be an actress

I was studying directing and writing at

aftera and um he saw me um outside of a

like a sh place in

Norwood

I was on the

phone annoyed at

someone and he was just staring and I

thought he was just a white

guy and he came to me and he said hey

this is what I do you know you have a

very interesting face wow um what are

you doing I said I'm I'm learning to be

a director and a film writer wow he said

that's funny because blah blah blah blah

blah and I said oh you guys made Yoo he

said yes I didn't believe him I didn't

believe it was him and he gave me his

card I never called him wow um wow I

think about a year

later when I found an agent also by

chance didn't want to be signed she

signed

me I don't think you can act but you're

very pretty so I'll sign you wow I see

okay good go off um she sent me

there he wasn't there but he saw my tape

and he remembered he said this is that

girl I was talking yeah that's why you

to had a ceremony for your ancestors

they working over time they are working

over time yeah amazing you're studying

directing or like you're in the film

space why wouldn't you call a guy who

just gave you a card and you can see

he's a part of a production company

that's I wasn't interested in

acting I think it was my second year as

a director and the thing is at that time

before after changed their syllabus to

what it is now it was boot camp

we were all

thin another

[Applause]

one no guys you guys

rewinded want to be you no I want to be

you look I want to be you I want to be

him I want to be you

bro not

him oh yeah his father's dying yeah oh

and he's doing so

like shulu

aside on on adulting especially on that

party that that he had at his house he

is so amazing with the the way that he

uses his tools as an actor that like I'm

amazed like I remember that day we were

all very tired it was a long day and we

had to wait till like it got dark so

that we could shoot blah blah blah you

know the way it works and I said to him

he's a rehydrate

two seconds later he came back and he

had already been starting to channel his

character so his character in the

SC so when we find him it must be this

rasle and

he I couldn't stop laughing I think I

corpsed in every scene had to help me is

the guy who plays TI tii yeah he'd

literally have to like hug me because

I'm dying he is so funny and I feel like

the next thing he should show us is a

comedy I think he would do amazing I'm

telling you cuz he killed Shaka bro he

killed Shaka

no yeah true

story who's the chck

here wow but he's amazing man he's

amazing he is so funny and if you go

back and watch some

episodes they were at's party and the

wife came in's wife came in and she

found a be's girlfriend there and then

she was like oh she did like a girly

thing she's like let's go get drinks and

leave these boys here right so as she

was walking away he drunkenly said oh

mama mama

and then he took the bottle and he

went and I I a comedy please if you're

watching the strip club I

remember oh my God cuz the last time the

last time I saw you it was you were with

tles at the garage remember Rose yes

they had just finished shooting um

Outlaws yes um and I happened to be

there

because

um

[Laughter]

[Applause]

[Laughter]

wow please be a gentleman let me do it

oh yeah yeah yeah I don't have nails but

it's

fine I'm old news cuz I was in episode

70 I'm old news now okay we'll revisit

that thank you sir you're welcome yes

yes yeah so you there okay cool

yeah is this my shot no no no they

haven't had a SE scene in a

while drink from the

last did you drink from the last SE I

did oh I didn't I was yapping away I was

yapping let's be honest let's be honest

the guys we had them here they were

sitting right here remember wise men we

had wise men and and they didn't tell us

the truth but let's be honest how much

ass are those

[Applause]

getting they the guys

country I I haven't oh I have with out

with wise man and CU he was at the

launch of Outlaws and then we all went

together but I've been out with more

um and

uh how I I

I I have no uh recollection recollection

buffering

iove I did not

prove

so the reason why I was mentioning Angus

when we interviewed him he said um so I

guess it's probably part of a rider he

said who was playing shaka's

mother

thingy so the SE SC she had with Shaka

there was a a scene where they showed

her butt okay and she didn't want it out

there he was going to put it out there

and then she asked for it to be removed

yeah so I guess it was part of like the

rider situation they didn't have an

intimacy coach on Shaga oh oh yeah they

probably would have never shot and SAR

bler is like strict she wants she she'll

come to you

every every five minutes are you okay

comfortable is your garment sitting all

right beautiful your boobs are is

everything fine are you all right my

dick is strapped in I'm fine are you

okay nothing not sweating off the the

glue you're good I'm good okay so um

they didn't have an intimacy coach on

Shaga so those were conversations that

actors needed to actively have with

production and and directors

you okay you were about to say something

about remember oh yeah so he's you never

see him having sex like they always cut

away yeah they do that's his Pur and he

loves the sex and mrj he

mrj mrj

you never have see them no they always

cut away in bed and it's always like

action kissing grabing ass and then they

twirl around on the bed and then cut is

he married yes with two kids I think

yeah oh just like an

adult oh wow three kids now adulting

well art imitates

life yeah yeah yeah what is one of the

thing about adulting that cuz you work

there uh that we don't know like

something

interesting like behind the scenes or

something H me it was like every other

set I just appreciate being

around but um cheda is a beautifully

oiled machine and I've always wanted to

work with uh cheda I respect p a lot as

well as Gan Bon they are amazing writers

they've shaped um the modern uh space of

Television so wild

and um I don't know if I have anything

to tell you about the set it

was pretty much another set I was just

walking around nervous the whole

time yeah yeah um why

though she's

uh she's a different archetype that I've

than I've ever played uh and I had to be

one with her choices so

much because more than anything thing

the first thing I do when I read a

character and I try to embody her is

that I don't judge her MH for whatever

choices that she makes because once I

judge her I involve myself and and and

then it's actually a it's away from me I

actually go to work to forget

myself

so what what happened I'm sorry t t I

just heard oh oh yeah no we all drunkers

so

oh to to that to to that to to that

that's the one I'll send you Peach and

mango lovely

[Laughter]

myself oh but there's also a deflated

miniature Pilates ball between

us you know Pilates big ball that you g

with so there's a miniature one there's

a miniature one that

you if someone gets

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anerection my your thing is stried I'm

wearing a a thong with a thick sponge on

it so that our thingies don't ever meet

there's a ball in front of us and

there's a lady in the

room who's busy going as soon as the

Director calls cat she runs to us with

gowns oh and with all that you can still

choose to be like on PO and not do sex

scenes cuz it sounds like even if you're

married you literally my wife told me

that and I'll be like oh okay that

sounds safe go ahead do the sex scenes

yeah I think with just different as as

as as thespians and I think we're just

different with how much of ourselves

that we are willing to give to the

profession and I think it also comes

with years of Prof of of experience and

years of practice um

I'm I've according to me on South

African television I've B it

all uh I've I've B the ugly parts of me

I've I've B the nice parts of me I've B

the insecure parts of me I've I've B it

all so what's a tit did you ever

witness any coach costing like during

your days that's a good one I didn't

hear that one hey I need to watch TI for

tax tit for tax

I

[Laughter]

that's did you ever witness any couch

casting like for example you're working

on a set and you see someone you can see

no this one shouldn't be here definitely

suck some dick to get you oh like did

that ever happened no I'm asking yeah yo

um so so this is what I want to explain

that the couch casting thing was kind of

only

valid probably like 5 years ago and

backing going back because of the

structure of the way television is made

um before that as a director I could

decide who I want to play this role and

and nobody else can like not even the

channel can say no oh power as the

Director so that's why directors had the

power to say

so it's not like that anymore it's not

like that anymore no because it's

changed good it's changed because of the

structure as soon as streaming things

came in clients now are part of clients

being the channels and the distribut

show hey another one who's this this

is end just oh but he gets to grab bmbs

though yeah he grabs bums lifts them up

and he's out and he's yeah and he's

still dressed he's still dressed still

dressed ah this one he takes giving

Zimbabwe this one can you see the

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blurry I need another sorry worries

you don't that one doesn't deserve a

shot

actually that's a sex it's a sex it's a

sex sexy no s is the producer of this

show so whatever he say yeah cuz you'll

close your kids eyes when that comes on

you not like you're going to go kids

come true come see SE you're right

you're right sexy oh yeah I put a

delting on the other time and my help

was cleaning I felt uncomfortable for

her feel uncomfortable well she bend it

over

it Shame Shame o yes yes so so so so so

so now it's changed yes yes okay so now

it's changed it's not the same like you

can't

if you were directing a show for

multichoice

MH even if you you can say oh I

suggest and

Jess

um um it's your suggestion it's it's not

the final say cuz there's still another

influence there's a room full of people

who are deciding I in you're not even

you're not even invited yeah good

she's big onv or she's big

onc another

one it's a previously

on a recap it's a recap it's previously

oh previously on we're on the next

episode

now talking that

long but we're loving it so a director

then doesn't have the power no that's

beautiful so how would you feel like you

worked hard like you're there cuz you

you deserve to be there cuz of your

craft right who's this

now Timmy oh yeah yeah

yeah no it's not that scene he's already

here I think then you you sing someone

you're like ah this what is giving Z how

do you feel though like as someone who

worked hard to be where you are oh I

mind my own business yeah I mind my own

business I'm so you did see people where

you're like ah this one

we the main at 1:00 in the morning

pering two

characters no

fly look um to answer your

question y look dirty man so

fake and I know you know this cuz you're

from Radio yeah so I know you know a lot

about like cting couch and you know a

lot about like uh EXC it was normal in

our time bro it was like in my time I've

experienced cting cush before and I

remember running out of the

sac my agent was stress it was a mess

now you can pause it it's fine I think

we get the deal wait so someone like

tried to C couch cost you yeah and it

was strange cuz I was very

young and I wasn't like desperate for it

or anything

um it was just a very

sketchy deal like from from the get-go

and then by the time I realized what was

happening um do you care to tell who was

it oh are they still 100% not wait for

my book one day darling are they still

that they say PC though cuz you said of

course they're still there and I you

know what I would love to carry the load

and tell everybody who it is so that I

can save other girls

but and I've got my own things I'm

dealing with of course um yeah curing

couch is is a valid thing from that time

now casting couch if it happens it's

happening from like top top top level

like now you must these girls are now or

guys are now

fetching like those ones who are sitting

in that room deciding yeah the short

about you the ones above the director

Chanel 100% commissioning

editor cuz it's director and directors

inside the umbrella of production

company production company is being

by Channel by

Channel yeah yeah makes sense those

are chowing bro which brings me

to

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my how can they tell

yeah that's a Dr podcast though we just

walk

around I'm saying nothing about thec I'm

saying nothing it happened to me once

and never

again I put it out

there uh I don't know if you guys know a

guy called papai do you guys know a guy

called papai no no man I think they've

been trending yeah on Zone 14 the

characters that's those are the

characters buy SP for buying spinach I

worked with them yeah I was on Zone 14

listen to this that's when Angus the

thing yeah so listen to this story papay

revealed in a podcast this week that a

production house bomb Productions stole

the scripts or an idea of the drama

series zone 14 and left him behind but

by says he and his friend Tammy are the

real owners of the concept of Zone

14 what you got to say about that whoa y

it was what it was the friendo then took

it to oh the friend stole so oh so bomb

didn't steal it so bomb didn't steal it

yeah oh the FR stole it and took it

would steal anything yeah they have

awesome writers on their on their things

yeah I've never heard

anything yeah sounds basically story

this is something new there was three

yeah they said this on a podcast yeah

yeah

yeah just to build cont there three of

them so the two played Bai and spinach

so the third person we do not know who

it is was the one who took the the play

and basically televised it wow

wow according to them there a lot of

stories just their word yes this is a

leged yeah yeah cuz I know the writers

were what do do is it what what do do

and cuz I saw film P saying no but we

know the writers of Zone 14 and it

couldn't have been these guys just find

their tweet please I think it's

informative uh what's your take what's

your take on that

um I

don't I have worked with the bom and I

respect the bom I don't see why they

would steal anything and I understand

that that's not what happened it was

somebody else who stole it and then gave

it to the bomb but at the same time like

they have like writers who developed

their own stories and their own scripts

so I don't see why they would just and I

find it trick take something from

outside I find it tricky because like so

that's not even their method of taking

stuff they create the

stuff look I'm not saying it's a

detective even though I play one you

8:00 p.m. on

every

Thursday no no but it's Val what you

saying you've worked with bomb so if

yeah

yeah it's a very well oiled

ship

look story and there is some truth to it

I feel guy maybe they should follow

maybe some legal uh uh Roots yeah to

solving this problem because the rest of

us really can't do anything about it you

can tell us on a podcast but we really

can't do anything about it

I find it difficult when like for

example let's use this podcast for

example right if someone sends an email

and they're like hey I think it would be

a great idea to start a sports podcast

yeah and then that's already in the

pipeline it's something that we are

going to do and then it comes out like

maybe a month or two months after they

suggest after they you just have to

prove it you just have to prove with a

paper trail that you have been in

pre-production before this person's book

oh but even if you don't man it's like

it's a it's a basic idea should have go

to go to court you have to be able to

prove it with a paper trail to say but

can't you also prove that it's not a

unique idea I've had an idea of mine

stolen like jeez when and it was a it

was a thing and I was just telling this

guy we have having burgers in K Town and

I told him the story and he made the

thing wow and then tried to cast me in

it

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wow tried to pass me in it but not even

as the lead yeah Y and I was like it's

got to be a white person that's no it's

actually not

whoa yeah watch the

show Friends like I can't do it one day

I will write a I

will when I write the book or the movie

or or the documentary I will come back

and give you an exclusive G so having

gone through that what's the best way to

protect an idea then the best way to

protect an idea legally and the best way

is to copyright it but that's that cost

like 60,000 just to copyright an idea

and make it yours so the the other way

is to do it the oldfashioned way to post

it to yourself email no by actual post

oh oh you post yeah like go to the Post

Office and post it to yourself so the

whole idea the the whole idea the whole

script the yeah the treatments the the

how you going to treat it the Wardrobe

the makeup the whatever put it all in a

brown envelope and go post it to

yourself and bring it back the law will

recognize that as something that already

existed um because there's a paper trail

that's the oldfashioned way wow email

doesn't work at all I think it can work

now it's just that when I was at school

this is what they taught me okay they it

to yourself what if um you have this

idea then um 5 years down the line you

see it happens and it's not like you

spoke to someone so even if you posted

it to yourself it's not like they saw it

well the thing with ideas I believe that

ideas are live

things and I believe that ideas choose

us M and if they can choose a lot of

people also no they choose you now and

if you don't do anything about it it

leaves okay

good that's what I believe cuz I've I've

seen my own like ideas out there and I'm

like hey I thought of that yeah it's

like now they in post prod even

what do women what do women got to do

think about it's like woman if she

chooses you and you don't do

anything okay she'll be in

postproduction in someone else's this is

true she'll be marketing

F marketing hey not even post for not

even post marketing the movie is now

[Laughter]

out we invited to the wedding invited to

the wedding or not she intimacy Rider

yeah

so she's someone's intimacy Rider

wow it is what it is Ghost lady what you

got for us man from a paba so I have

this other of my Pap have they ever

written about you bad stuff is it what

did they

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say like I don't think I'm a friend of

the page yeah how do you how do you know

it's bad if you don't know what they

wrote because like people will be like

oh look at this and what was it what

were we looking what was it like like

they'll perpetuate

like like a tabloid rumor okay like

they'll perpetuate it they'll be like oh

this is happening and she did this but

they'll never be like hey do you have a

comment can you say anything like like

tblo will actually call you Tablo will

call you and they'll say I'm writing it

already but don't they tag you in the

story so that maybe you can actually

come back and say no this is wrong

them like I think I blocked them so I

don't think they can I don't know what

lies with this spr what yeah what did

they say cuz you like you got a clean

image bro I've never seen anything bad

about some kid yeah there's been like um

there some guy who said I owed him

12,000

Rands uh he's a DJ but like uh it wasn't

like so everyone was like oh you costed

12,000 I'm like no no no no no um I was

working for a club at the time remotely

helping them with their lineups so I was

I was booking DJs DJs and and and

artists because these are people in my

industry and I know them and so they can

give me a better rate than some guys

they don't know my name is true true

true so I was doing that and he wanted

to do his birthday at this specific

place and I said come and blah blah blah

and there was a mixup that happened with

the

finances and I took on the load I said

it's fine

I'll pay you it's okay but then it took

a bit longer than I thought cuz it was

12,000 R and I'm a mom so then the story

is true then that I owed him it's the

club but you took on the responsibility

to him yes I did and and

and it it unfolded

rather unpleasantly yeah it could have

definitely been solved between the two

of us and um so they ran with it they I

think they posted me like four times

that day who was the DJ I'd rather not

oh okay you'll see it online yeah and

they like every time I do like nice

stuff or like good stuff or like even if

I look good they'll never be like oh

this was some 20 minutes ago ah but

people don't care about that you know

they do but they write Stu like doesn't

get clicks all I'm saying is that they

write about stuff like that right so

they'll be like oh this was whoever

whoever 20 minutes ago or 15 minutes ago

or hey look at this person they bought

this or they got a new gig at doing

this but with me they're very like when

like good stuff happens as soon as

anybody says anything bad like that

thing with that other girl the one that

says she raps who who's that now who's

that no damn no

mus yeah when that happened they

were like boom boom boom boom yeah yeah

yeah yeah they were posting clips of my

life and they were and at that time at

least it wasn't like a bad thing towards

me because I was the victim I had the

drink thrown at me and I was just

ranting on

it so they were yeah so and and and I

like them they they they they they um I

like that they donate to schools with

the school shoes and stuff and I wanted

to help as well I wanted to get my

Foundation to help them as well let's

donate some shoes to faway man but it's

cool they don't need

them that's your

primary they need a karate

kiss or ballet

neard anyway what you got for us gohost

lady so this's this story I got right

and it says um the fail to pay a

girl oh you know the

story you know the story as

a that's what I'm saying okay okay okay

and I like him like like I find him like

a little it's like a toxic thing of mine

I'm like I hate Mula cuz he wrote

that about me

[Laughter]

but guess who's losing weight for the

100

time like I'm entertained but at the

same time when it's me I'm like is oh

that's painful

man it comes with the territory man yeah

it comes with the territory it does it

does but maybe you can Enlighten us cuz

there's some questions here it sounds

like the same story just different

exactly this one is 600 600 yeah yeah

this one is 600 100 100 but I love you

Laz yeah okay all right he failed to pay

a girl 600 R and the girl went crying to

paba with evidence that the rapper was

lying daily saying he's going to pay or

well he's going to go to the ATM and

deposit the money right after being

exposed the rapper um paid the girl in

fool and then um now the sto the

question is is the guy broke what's

going on and what are these girls doing

for him no man a know where the Ellas is

broke cuz you can't afford 600

bucks why did it take okay why did it

take for the girl to go to my paba and

then only then then he pays up right so

CU that's another thing why take

communication the same like

after that's why okay Enlighten us on

this but then I didn't give it all to

him oh okay I paid all the DJs so that

12K was for all the DJs that played at

his birthday gig that he wanted at my

club so in the end he only got 3K have

you been to D's parties or something

like yeah he's he's over the years he's

he's been yeah I've been to I went last

year I was wearing such thick hooker

heels why I've never been invited to

what happens I'll take you next time wow

what goes on there I get some PDD Vibes

there no it's just a putty no ways

there's no rooms that you can't access

and

his his children are the children are

there the oh so the one that I went to

last year um I think it's because he was

still shooting Love and& Hip Hop okay so

there were cameras so he did have like

family members there MH and like a few

class members from the

thing but it's a party bottles around

the swimming pool white couches white

things white

clothes um and then we all go home then

it's cheers and then we all go home a

out of

here if there's more I was the girl that

they

said

K would you be shocked if it came out

right let's say next week they would to

say the L's all white parties that P

didy used to happen there would you

be shocked

but exclusive parties that only have a

particular list of people invited it's

industry people ah nah I wouldn't be no

that's not fair because I do that like I

have so I have an annual uh

party uh for my birthday so my birthday

is on the 31st of December oh wow but I

can't always expect my friends to like

like change their New Year's plans for

me so I often do my party on the week

before Christmas before people go away

for Christmas holidays okay so this

party is different to the party that I

would have on the 31st that one is going

to be

for or if if I'm ever right so this

party is like a play date it's called a

play date you guys are invited to the

next one so what we do is that like and

it was I remember it trended on Twitter

some other time ago and people were like

I want a party like this so my party is

really cool so it started as me being

afraid to like grow up I was turning 30

yeah yeah yeah

like like can I be a kid so I have

jumping castles mermaids in the pool

Street

paint Bowl I have a ice cream machine

that shows up and like adults are like

oh my God is this for us tamis T no I

wish I had

tamis buy me tamis stuck in 995 I need

tamis playing

no so so so you are threading on thin

ice

I love9 music I love B9 music um no he's

a great producer I respect that

but I respect what happened to the music

cuz the last episode we did together you

said you were going to release music I

did but then I I went on that

break right afterwards um so I took a

break I had been acting for like 14

years wow without a break yeah uh I used

to think that I would go crazy without

acting and then I was like I need to

like KN you had made enough money to go

on a break for two years without any

pict so I had planned for a year but

then GTI it was like I felt Co in my

blood so that year didn't count and then

the next year when my agent was like so

so sorry you're coming back are coming

back I said no Co year doesn't count I

need another year do you think that it's

a good idea as creatives like to just go

it's an extremely good idea I am

Testament to it watch my work now you

came with the bag back the B look at my

work now like it's it's it's Top Notch

thank you it's a real thing like um we

we need we need M you know creatives

deserve the space and time to do nothing

ooh to roam around aimless ly and do

nothing but can they afford experience

they AF to plan for it just plan for it

if I'm able to plan for it with a kid

then you can do it

too yes it is a it might be a luxury for

for some people who are living from

paycheck to paycheck which I was too but

it takes some planning and you took a

break look at you now no he lost

December look at you now he lost not

December not December not December when

was the last time you were on radio oh

that wasn't plann that wasn't pln but it

was no no no she's right a

break take a break oh yes cuz I was I

wasn't going to do it myself and look

how I came back

exact I get you

oh a lot of growth happens there a lot

of growth happens so the with creatives

we we oh yeah Sal also we drink a

lot

yeah yeah say up I'll give you a break

take a

break um true so I did I and every time

I talk about this everyone is like I

take so much courage oh my God and I'm

like yo when I look at in hindsight that

is a lot of Courage for me to walk into

the what were you doing in those two

years what were you doing

nothing nothing so in the first year I

thought I'm G to focus on music I'm go

to then Co happened and then I just kept

ending up in like I'm a piano

studios yeah confidence I'm a

piano I have songs with anyone you can

mention right now wow no I have a song

with

por songs with I have songs with Melo

and sley

wow

where I made a qu Anthem wow

with the King Don the king Don father

wow wow wow so I thought that and then

where are they they

[Laughter]

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there guys distribution things I might

not be like allowed cuz I haven't like

no it's fine don't worry I I haven't

like you know anyway so so so I thought

I was like okay so now that I'm taking a

break from acting let me focus on my

music this is my first Passion it's my

first love I'm going to do it I've got

pipes on me and I can do it and that

song that we released we actually made

as a

joke cuz the producer that made it is

actually a A hip-hop producer and I said

I bet you make an Amano

beat and he said say less say less he

made it and after he played it for me I

said I'm going to sing on it and I sang

jeez reason wrote we finished it

reason

and we let it out we were like let's let

it out it was very bubble gum be I know

yeah yeah yeah yeah but the gays love it

and I love the gays because you know we

love the gays too man the gays

so so so what was your favorite song

Last

year last year yeah M Nik M of course M

Nik wow n that's massive apart from M fa

to say that's a cop out M Nik what's

that don't you

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remember hey what was your favorite

song what are you listening to right now

what are you listening to M Night by

Tyler see you I love T I also have a

song with

him I do damn

um what was my favorite song last year

if it wasn't for that oh it was Baby by

Uncle waffles and jelly baby oh I don't

know that one it

goes you don't know that song I

know so it came to me while I was deep

diving down a rabbit hole of like a 2000

culture and language because the girl

I'm playing on on adulting is how old am

I let me not say how many years young

yeah how old is minky mink is

24 for real what how old did you think

she was

what8 I'm 14 yes

yeah the thing the to you use it sounds

so like you know it's new WoW because if

I used old dll I would have never had to

like go back to the drawing board and

like try and find it so I had to like

literally take a deep dive

into

uh um and I had I had help I'm not going

to say I translated that script on my

own It Was Written in English oh sorry

oh s i It Was Written in English and I

translated it I had so much fun I was

helped by a good friend of mine who's

also an actor but he hasn't acted in a

very long time he's in business

now uh so he knows like so I mixed

minky's language with

like current I'm a like I'm a 2000

language with jail language oh W jail

wow yeah yeah there's a scene where

comes in and she's like what are you

guys doing in the kitchen blah blah blah

like but that word is only used in

jail so why would a 2000 know that

because it's new it's new jail language

oh and it's not like they go to jail

forever they go and they come back oh

and they influence

that's crazy man P APV is a stolen car

so when the police reported the code is

APV APV correct yeah anything else you

want to talk about my oh did you see

Prince K ended up releasing the

remix sorry sorry you asking of M Nike

no oh didn't he make can

release I is it you can't remix that

song You Can't

don't no

noix remix some remixes Man

remix was

AF he made a remix of M and he released

it after he released it literally on the

day

after

wow oh s bie tape yes oh yes yes he was

pushing the remix yes she's right didn't

he have it yeah you're right yeah like

literally the day

after so that mean he then released that

tape to get

theability Prince KB no but has he met

me ah what do you mean what do you mean

hey

[Laughter]

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he does look like your his real name he

looks like my type n he likes big S like

that's what I'm saying I got big ass n

got a nice body though but n not like

nah man not Prince KB type no not Prince

but is he your type

though doesn't even heir where like

doesn't have dreadlocks no he cut them

cut them he cut them ages ago oh you

don't like with dreadlocks it's

funny because my my boyfriend has

St and I've seen it for so many years

like but now but now I'm like this guy

has longer dreadlocks than mine wow God

was

like what was your

type um was no hair make more money than

me oo be kind oh yeah you know you just

have to date a kind guy he can he can

have all the money in the world but if

he's not

kind even to the people around him deal

bre red flags for me are like oh we're

going on a date and he's mean to the

waiter yeah oh he's mean to yeah like we

all humans so be kind and smart you

don't have to be funny I am M so it's

okay so your current boyfriend is has it

all except for the the hair the hair and

accept because sometimes when people see

us together like a that's so funny you

guys each other hair yes this is why oh

is it who's got long dreadlocks in the

industry and makes more money than

semi he's got to be a director yeah yeah

has to be director producer

I'm

I tell you who he is but I'll tell you

because I know that one day it will it

will like come out and be

misconstrued my favorite people hey

hey I'm stepping into The

Newsroom

anyone you

need now that's how it's

done let me give let me give you a Dr r

let me give you a drum roll no

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my tell us anyway so this student sty

ladies and

gentlemen I'm not telling you a name

yeah yeah okay just tell us here we go s

this is a sound bite I know no it's a

sound bite and S is chowing who give me

my

C no

oh but the question of who I'm chowing

is

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different someone different who's not

your boyfriend my boyfriend list me have

girlfriends wow W your boyfriend

girlriend

what a what a what a god wow

damn what a what a guy so you have you

let him join do you let him join anyway

so you asked me who my boyfriend is and

I'm not going to tell you who he is all

I'm going to tell you is that the only

reason I'm speaking about this I'll

never speak about my private life but

I'm only speaking about it right now

because I worked with him on a

doubting oh it's the award-winning

director man okay so I'm an actress

you're a director we've known each other

for years one day we decide to date it's

during my break we date and then one day

I'm like ah I'm coming back to TV one

day my agent says to me hey adulting is

asking would you do something like this

and I'm like send me a script let me see

I read it I'm

like ah it took me like a

week and then I was like okay fine I

think I know who minky is and then we

worked so we were bound to crust parts

so it's like it's like if you were

dating somebody in the industry you are

bound to inter interview them on one

date so um I'm only mentioning this

because I saw a comment somewhere on

Musa kaula saying where someone was like

oh her boyfriend begged her the adulting

role and I'm like that's funny because

I'm on an Emy nominated show called Raa

on Emet on Thursdays ATM shout

out

I'm so cool like and I'm different from

but that sure looks like it's for white

people that show it's not so this is

what I'm here to like decipher set yeah

like set the the record straight so it's

called Raa and a lot of people hear the

word Raa and they thinking

Africans guys I know I'm linguistically

gifted but

and Al so you don't speak Africans and T

even if like I was in

1976 I couldn't yeah so it's not

Africans if you enjoy shows like CSI

Miami yes or like um name another like

action like series LAPD LD 21 Jump

Streets is old as that is New York

Undercover um the one with Ice Cube

which one is the one Ice Cube that's 21

Jump Street isn't it no no no law in

order law in

order so it's like a show like that so

like all my new fans people who didn't

know that like like maybe who knew I was

an actress but never saw my work sudden

like like sa you just saw my work for

the first time on and you're saying that

I just didn't watch TV 100% and you

never saw my work so you're a new fan

right minky shout out thank you mink so

so all my new fans people who who felt

like I brought minky to life in that way

watch raika because you will enjoy

detective aanda jali which is who I play

she's a very um she's the total opposite

of minki she's a

God-fearing lady lady who fights for

justice she's got she's loyal she's

strong she's intuitive nothing gets past

her she's a detective she knows she she

knows you know what I mean and I think

you will enjoy it because if you enjoy

shows like that it's it's it's also very

psychological it's with Kim Angel uh

Gerard uh um

stain and I know guys I know

but because we are taking up space yeah

but don't you think that script is worn

out like no it's not it was written by

the amazing ran Dixon and he's he's

amazing his his script got them an emom

wow wow Kim got an emom for the first

season and this is the second season

that we are doing now and I think watch

it you know if you have emnet it's on

ketchup it's on um DV stream I don't see

why not like hey dude how do you feel in

this age where ladies are selling their

bodies for money but you actually work

for you why did I know he was going to

ask me that yeah you know me well yeah

you know me well it's a real question

it's the truth of the day cuz you're not

selling your body you selling your your

show shot man she's selling a show and

it shows not my body works for me you

know what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah

it's a CRA you selling your craft a

craft yeah

yeah I need another glass yeah that's

the one why do you need a shot for this

it's a simple question it's not some G

come on it's not a simple question you

know it's not a simp you know a lot of

your that's why you're asking because

it's not simple because if you if you

knew if you knew the answer you wouldn't

ask yeah and it's

complicated because you're asking I have

my uh thoughts suspicions yeah thoughts

on on no he doesn't have suspicions of

what I think he definitely doesn't know

what's in my head no I don't know what

that's what I'm asking you but if you

were to ask me I have my idea so I want

to hear

yours is it hot for you because let us

speakly no I'm asking ask ask ask what

you going to say

see what she is in her head ghost

lady right she's trying to

Chanel No is it hard for you because you

find that a lot of your

colleagues uh all

right their body their body works for

them my colleagues yeah in your

industry oh like in the entertainment

industry not like actors or whatever

whatever cuz

explained no one can get you a role my

boyfriend is a director yes and he

directed my six scenes wow that's crazy

it is crazy damn whoa that's a mind

he directed them and I I must admit I

felt safer wow I thought I would I

thought I would feel some kind of way I

won't

lie in the first few moments when I

thought about it I was like I can't

like I can't do and say the things you

do in bed with him because he might

think that yes what I'm doing is

performative but don't you think he

would feel like if you say and do the

things you say in

bed it's like then you're not acting oh

you're paying homage no I'm acting now

now I'm acting you

called no

because

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I must even dive even deeper and find

Mink's sexual character yes hey this

thing is deep yeah but you didn't answer

the question you're not going to run

away from that yeah we've been

podcasting too long what was the

question again yeah yeah cooking and boo

some repeat

okay

so

um like this like feminism thing I'm

going to start there right okay

cool this like feminism idea this modern

idea about

like woman being independent and

whatever whatever I think it's like a

whole trick mhm I think it's an agenda

and I think it's an agenda to emasculate

the black man and to masculate the black

woman and to have

her sorry sorry uh and to have her kind

of operating from a masculine level

doing things for herself and as a result

emasculating her partner and therefore

being

single raising kids like on their own

and then having men blaming the women

for being single mothers or blaming how

The Offspring turns out because they

were raised by single

mothers so part of the feminism

agenda kind of speaks

to you know female Liberation female

economic uh Liberation but specifically

female autonomy okay having the space

and capacity and right to make your own

choices financially physically sexually

and all that stuff I believe in it I

believe yes autonomy is definitely one

of the best ideas that feminism could

have come up with the others they kind

of speak to another agenda I don't want

to work every day I'd actually rather be

at home taking care of our kids and you

can do it stay masc and I want to stay

feminine so along the

line along the trail of over stimulation

of social media and overstimulation of

information I think the wires got

crossed and it goes back to like the

other agenda of

like new age hipop

pop where it's like my baby daddy

my baby daddy my daddy daddy I

don't my baby

daddy it goes back to I'm gonna who

I want I'm gonna do who I

want and it's this big masculine energy

that's like seeping out of these

beautiful feminine beings

hey so because men on the other side

half the time feeling

emasculated half the time being

masculine it shows up as okay fine Shar

I'll pay

you

it's oh to get the power back

ah you kid

me

so my thoughts on it are are quite vast

and like branched out yeah and I I can't

have like one answer for it I do believe

women should have sexual autonomy I

should be able to who I want sleep

with who I want to kiss who I want to

woman or man

big

but I also believe that men should be in

a position to who they want you

know too but

also

they already do

they but it's not always who they want

hey they be but it's not always

who they

want yeah yeah so so for me it's like uh

the whole

transactional

culture uh shows up to me in a

projective way someone's projecting it's

either the males or the females but

somebody is Pro projecting and it's

unhealthy because I understand I do I

get it you want to live in a space of

femininity and have your man be

masculine near you and take care of you

and pay for this and take you to 2A and

take you to wherever wherever but that's

not the reality that every single woman

in South Africa lives in that's not the

that's not the LSM that everybody's

experiencing all the demographic that

everybody lives in so then it makes it

tricky because now every girl is now

brought up in that

programming every new girl new knew they

brought up in that programming of

thinking H this is the way I can't just

give it up for nothing like where's my

V hey so why do we tiptoe around with

such information because it's tricky you

have to very be very careful with your

wording yeah and be careful to not be

cancelled and be careful to not to not

um almost

chasti a certain gender for something

that is an effect of

socialization is not as simple as

shortcuts so regardless of what gender

cuz there's guys as well that sleep with

other guys for money is it not just yeah

v v on on on adulting yeah yeah is it

not just a simple thing of people just

don't want to work for their money

anymore it's like a shortcut so for

example like okay you can be with a man

right who starts from scratch you can

see the vision he builds his thing and

whatever it takes years maybe five six

years but eventually gets there to the

point that you want him to get but you

know you had to be patient right as

opposed to just being with a guy who you

know next week if you sleep with him

will get you to that level so it's a

shortcut isn't it as simple as

that I'm not Bob the Builder not

sticking

around

patriarch

yeah even you can be a feminist yeah

100% definitely by actively dismantling

patriarchy by saying okay I'm looking

around this room how many men how many

wom yes do you see what I'm saying that

to me that is feminism and and fighting

for that

now regardless of gender regardless of

gend thank you

yeah equality yeah okay like as a man I

can still fight for that yeah yeah

regardless of gender so for me

go go murky tricky because it's just

like I'm raising a

girl the last thing I want her to see is

these high school kids who are doing the

most uh whatever I don't want to talk

about it too much and mention names and

and and like sound bad yeah but excuse

me

iing because it's one thing to live in

your

femininity you know and to only attract

men that are just here to take care of

you yeah and to live in that reality yes

it's one thing woman who do that and are

they're not feminist

and yeah feminist

necessar please be a gentleman that was

my feminine energy I could have

gone I could have but that's a bit

masculine yes yes that's not you and you

have to admit it you guys love that

up you love the feminine shitu up

we do and guess what we love the

masculine

yes so it's a miscommunication of the

okay sorry my hands are doing a

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different it's a

miscommunication of the two Polar

Opposites it's a it's a miscommunication

and then it happened to project when

during this

time

of this culture of social media social

media over stimulation over stimulation

of information over stimulation of other

people's lives I don't know when last I

knew about other people's lives then

now like before I'm my like I'm older

than

Instagram I'm older than the internet

yes

we yeah

like

so for me I get you you get where I'm

going I get you I get you and that's why

it's so hard for us to navigate in these

show for me it's like okay fine if we

want to talk about that culture of um

this the the sex industry is fine okay

the six industry I

myself benefited this is not a

sound B but I do support the sex

industry by going to strip clubs yeah we

all do and I do spend money on strippers

and I'll tell you why and it's

because I

respect the

craft yeah it's a craft nobody gets it

nobody gets it you said it and nobody

gets it nobody gets what it's like to

have to walk onto a set with lights and

cameras and it's all about you I get it

I get it so for somebody to walk out

naked on a pole with no and with no

Pilates Bo or a string or a t string

yeah yeah you have to be a there person

is also putting their femininity on

display do you know how many times in

my like growing up into becoming an

adult I've been told I've been like not

me but people in my age group have been

kind of pushed away from our own

femininity we've been told all the women

independ your

hands you were never

told love love man allow your man yes

he's always right it's

okay suck that

dick he's

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teaching so yeah that's that's I love

the way you put it man yeah that's

my thing and that that show if that show

was about the sex industry and and and

the effects of it and and and and

and I love that puka what do you think

man about what she saying no I agree

with her but also at the same time

it's also not like I mean it's

everything she said is correct as well

but it's also yeah it's just shortcut

you know what I mean other

people whatever to get there and other

women then use the sex and the

it's the easiest way you know what I

mean take a guy I'm been going to for

example and put him in a job in a job

you know say he's earning 8,000 R he

won't survive take a girl from Summit

you know put her in a job where she

needs to wake up every morning and earn

8,000 R like what the she makes

that in a in a good weekend so yeah so

it's also just shortcuts at the end of

the day really and people using the what

they have their closest tools at their

disposal you know and that's a good

point and I cuz I was about to uh

mention U why are we taking shortcuts

okay okay you know that's a good

question for us to ask to say okay it's

a shortcut it's because cuz when I was

putting minky together I had to to be

mindful of her environment and the time

she's living in the time she's living in

is huge numbers of youth

unemployment huge huge

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numbers yeah so for me it's like those

things just don't come get sucked out of

someone's thumb you do it because

there's a need there's a supply and

there's a

demand but a lot of times it's also also

the reason it's the reason why it's more

R now than ever it's because like you

said we know more about other people's

lives now more than ever right and allim

all the ulence the the opulence the

stimulation the wealth you get on

Instagram and you see someone living

like this it's so close you think you

can

SM cuz half of the people are committing

crime and selling their bodies half of

them are not trying to get put kids

through school some of them you know

what I mean they're trying to get an

Amiri the latest Amiri hat the latest

Gucci because it's what they see

and it's that is here more than

ever our parents didn't grow up seeing

that kind of opulence yeah you know and

then if there were

people or selling their bodies

then

because they W see they didn't have they

weren seeing this guy living in santon

on Instagram or living going on a yard

or Dubai they didn't even know Dubai you

know what I mean true j z um when you

hear about j z in the workforce you

become a little bit disappointed cuz j z

in the work force has a reputation to

just not be present W J now the 20 yeah

the 2000 yeah yeah you you you you hear

about the stuff and you're

like like you'll be fine they want

intific that's the problem I don't want

to be canel or whatever

but so it's that you have to add that to

the calculation as well you also have to

add the fact

that they're not working they're not

going to school they're being over

stimulated with information they they

over stimulated other people's lives and

also the birth rate have you heard about

the birth rate with Jen Z j z doesn't

want to have kids W the birth rate is

going down it's plummeting it's

plummeting in Europe and America if you

read about the birth rate it's

plummeting it's going down jenz is like

it's going to end in tears

M so Africans on the other hand are

having babies at willo and even by

mistake we just be like you know what I

mean like oh popping them out and

but people are inspired by 350 to pop a

baby you see what I'm saying

so

yes they are seeing the aftermath of how

we grew up they're seeing the aftermath

of how the ones who came after us you

know what I'm saying so you have to add

those things to the equation to go

yes they might be over simulated yes

they might be this but hip hop

culture hip hop culture sing it plays a

huge part in influencing

these young uh they're trying to find

themselves you know they are I don't

think I knew what I liked about myself

till I was 22 oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

definitely for it's even later

you see what I mean by the time I was 22

I was like hey actually I like my big

tits like Y'all Mar cake this is

Ashley the richest twins in the world

so yes yes yes so I had to like

now imagine you Cho them off when you 16

cuz it was the end thing to

do

crazy Correctional for forens in

my when I was 16 I wanted to be a

pilot I thought I was also going to be a

gynecologist and I thought I was going

to be famous for playing the guitar

better than scarlo Santana imagine that

was me at 16 by the time I was 18 I had

new Dreams by the time I was 21 I had

so

yeah anyway ghost lady anything else you

some girl I just okay I got stuck in

this conversation but we move

um what is your best paying job

Ry adulting isn't adulting what I

thought you'd put adulting as one of

them they just matched it oh okay okay

hold on hold on but Rhythm s you were

there for like a long time I doubting

you've been there for like five episodes

oh they got budget there bro

on adult shout out to ch ch

pictures was it then that you were able

to make the decision to take a break so

from that I had been trying to leave for

about 3 years oh okay and producers were

kind of like no please day another year

and they kept kind of bumping the cheese

up ah yeah oh yeah so by the time I

left please tell everyone about the

Trevor story no come on the NOA Story

please

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please they on episode 17 so actually

must tell them to watch episode 7 yeah

just watch episode 17 and I'm not

talking about it I want to know we love

you Trevor and South Africa we love

Trevor he knows South

Africa you there's no Trevor story um

she said no to

Trevor oh she said you said why don't I

tell

us but no you didn't he was not Trevor

Daily Show Trevor so you're allowed to

say no to Trevor dread maybe he wasn't

making more than you maybe he was rude

to the waater oh so it's you're allow to

say you're allowed to say no but the CRA

no I don't want to talk like

I it's not part of my story it shouldn't

be attached to me like and the poor

sitting

there it happened it's you I'd forgotten

about it until you sent me the the text

you yes cuz I like thank god um what is

I say I said thanks a lot I was shooting

a magazine cover in the week and one of

the questions was oh is it true that you

and Trevon almost had something and I

sent a screenshot to me and I was like

look what you did cuz from what was the

reason then to say no I was dating

someone oh oh you

see do you look back we did a movie

together we played lovers in a movie

yeah let me see let me go back to our

text and see yeah we played lovers in a

movie but if you look at him now don't

you ever go

H I've been my

femininity in the Manhattan

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penth

fine how the did he say no to

Trevor what did you say to him you're

like n

bro what you with Thomas then Thomas you

was Thomas then you Thomas for a long

time thas three years that's a long time

Thomas K yeah Thomas K yeah yeah yeah

where is that where are those and

he's

kind actually yeah you're actually

consistent oh he's not kind what happen

I'm just dud you're here like listing

the thing yeah yeah yeah he made more

than you then I don't know now but he

you could make a good actor your memory

is I've got a super mem oh no he's got a

good well with my help you could make a

good actor help me so this is what she

said she said I do um offer PR

uh acting lessons oh yeah I'll sign up

I'm shooting for this cover today for

I'm just not coaching right now for

which like four of five of my actors are

on TV now wow that I coached P listen to

what she said exactly I'll be TV what do

you want from which role she's like

Terry called me today she wants to C me

in a

movie yeah exactly okay why are you

reading read I've been for five minutes

now so has he been like yeah sorry sorry

sorry I'm shooting for this cover today

and I'm leaving that question blank the

one about Trevor no cuz wow rather ask

me about the Hollywood actor I did

everything

with who is that now you see I've been

five minutes hey man wow you weren't

supposed to say that it's

content

who is it me no I'm definitely not

telling

you Sami I'm not that's that would be so

weird he's also married now I told you

he's married now South African no

Hollywood hwood okay tell us where did

you hook up with them in in Hollywood he

was in Jo book shooting a movie that's

where we met um I won't say which movie

because then you'll know who it is wow

um lead actor yes the lead is the

American he's British but he does a good

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um Mandela Mandel she played Mandel

Edris Ela played

mandelis El was in sou Africa and he

does a very good American accent he have

his

passport and he's married now he's

married yeah he's married he's

married he's married

heyr guys I'm looking at this headline

now no no no man that is W don't do that

I they listen further and find out that

know it's not with these he like

let me call my African

H is African

H

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African wow damn wow that's crazy it

he's a big

deal deal alist a big deal he was at the

real wedding wasn't he remember he was

yeah with his wife beautiful wife and

Meg

weding we got to go to these sets man

are rock we have to go we have to

go to the sets bro it's in the sets in

the sets

SK the magic is in the

SS it's in the SS dog

we love you so much man love you thanks

for me on the show no man any time you

family you come back anytime beautiful

whenis is in the country

maybe speak to him guys

next no guys this year when you we

voting this year me why we must vote

guys vote where you at where you at

where you at you ask me who I'm going to

vote no no no but like how you feeling

about the elections the country state of

the country boom boom boom uh I just

wish people would vote

and I don't want to State my political

alliances

or my political wishes cuz I'm still

stuck on Congo right

now um yeah you haven't seen what's

happening in con ter no one talks about

it yeah no one's yeah it's been like six

to 10 years yeah like a woman is raped

every 4 minutes

who no and I saw a video the other day

of a

three-year-old um in

a in a line almost working at a mine

mining Cobalt and I and I thought of my

kid my kid is turning six and I thought

of her with her little soft hands

carrying a bucket like a thing

or whatever

like wait what are we doing about that

cuz I mean we out there in the

international court of justice fighting

Israel but what are we doing about

what's going on in Congo the injustices

towards kids South Africa sent troops to

Congo yeah like like two weeks ago oh is

that's what's needed though military

intervention we do need a military

presence there because the people who

are interrogating the people on the

ground are the the the the the rebels

yes who are almost being

used as pawns for this game of keep the

Cobalt out of the congales hands but

then you also have guys like so there

external forces that have empowered they

always empower the rebels if they're on

the top of government always they give

them guns them TR they give them food

they give them everything that's

so we've deployed um but I'm saying

it's wow hey I can't speak on

thise good let me sit closer to come let

me sit closer to you it's

fine no it's fine it's fine it's fine

police I what was I saying

police oh no I was saying it's difficult

because even the open Heimer um benefit

from what's happening in Congo they'll

benefit from everything that happens in

Africa for the next 100 years yeah so

it's difficult to to to to squash stuff

like that years and possibly more so

yeah that's what I want to say you guys

can

continue yeah I spicy up anything else

you busy with um well what I'm shooting

now I can't speak about yet um and you

were laughing at me earlier cuz I was

like the script is kicking my butt

you're like what do you mean the script

is kicking your butt I was like man the

character research um I'm still trying

to find this Han what is it going to be

you on Netflix or what bet bet oh yes

yeah I I'm not I don't know her yet and

I have my first table read next

week uh yeah that's separate but right

now um if you haven't watched adulting

yet um it's still on show Max I'm on

from episode 2 to 7 um and I play minky

uh dinkis are you going to die dinkis is

is gone s yeah yeah they dump which is

good which is good that mean to get got

rid of her CU she's toxic yeah they dump

is she no she is look she's got her own

story is she wrong like every time she

like fights him is she wrong he was

talking to the girl no but he was

talking to the girl not in the way

of it was just

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like

is a problem man is problem and then the

other girl is no ways no I think they

both have some healing to do yeah they

both traumatized how how's moonchild cuz

best friends with moonchild best oh wow

wow wow AR guys

besties good friends man dud like you

you make each other clothes what okay

what

clearly something happened nothing

happened but you're not as close

as you're not that close anymore I

didn't say that uhhuh so what are you

saying nothing I I haven't said a thing

what you speak to you said a lot without

saying anything yeah no has it to be an

actress oh to have your face be so

translative such a

weakness oh

Lord

eye

rolling you said so

much but I'm heart broken mean heart

broken I love child man I love her too

energy is amazing yeah yeah I love her

too so oh wow when you speak to you

didn't answer that I don't know um

probably last year

sometime last many moons ago child I

want to hug you you can hug

I'm so

Bor amen we are here Round of Applause

for

Sam

Sam this has been podcasting chill man

we are here we love you so much

man many

moon

welcome to Black Excellence do not fear

for if you do just sip on some

grandure and if you still do ask

ourselves what would Muni

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do when they ask

you do not fear for if you do just say

an TV this is the medicine of censorship

this is the pill which one is that one

podcast and chill