Is Gravity RANDOM Not Quantum?
Summary
TLDRThis episode explores the possibility of a classical theory of gravity compatible with quantum mechanics, challenging the quest for quantum gravity. Physicist Jonathan Oppenheim proposes 'post-quantum gravity,' suggesting gravity may be inherently random, not quantum. The theory addresses inconsistencies between general relativity and quantum mechanics, offering a new perspective on unifying these fundamental physics theories and their implications for quantum information and determinism.
Takeaways
- 🌌 The script discusses the ongoing quest for a unified theory in physics, specifically quantum gravity, questioning if gravity is inherently quantum or just appears messy or random.
- 🧠 It introduces the post-quantum gravity hypothesis by Jonathan Oppenheim, suggesting gravity might not be quantum but could be made compatible with quantum mechanics through the addition of randomness.
- 🔬 The script contrasts general relativity, which describes large-scale phenomena like gravity, with quantum mechanics, governing the small-scale behavior of matter and energy.
- 🔄 The conflict between these two theories is highlighted, as they are both verified to high precision but seem fundamentally incompatible, leading to the search for a theory of quantum gravity.
- 🤔 The possibility of a classical theory of gravity that works alongside quantum mechanics is explored, challenging the assumption that gravity must be quantized.
- 📚 Einstein's field equations of general relativity are explained, which equate the geometry of spacetime with the matter and energy within it.
- 🌐 The script delves into the complexities of coupling classical gravity with quantum theory, discussing the issues with semiclassical gravity and the expectation value of the stress-energy tensor.
- 🚀 The concept of a singular spacetime shaped by quantum superpositions of mass and energy is critiqued for its inconsistencies with quantum mechanics.
- 💥 The idea of adding noise to gravity itself to create a singular classical spacetime that allows quantum objects to behave quantumly is presented as a potential solution.
- 🔮 Oppenheim's theory of post-quantum gravity is described, which includes a fluctuating gravitational field that could resolve issues with the uncertainty principle and the measurement problem.
- 🎲 The script touches on the radical implications of post-quantum gravity, including the abandonment of determinism and the potential resolution of the black hole information paradox by allowing for the destruction of quantum information.
Q & A
What is the holy grail of theoretical physics?
-The holy grail of theoretical physics is to find the long-sought theory of quantum gravity, which would unify the principles of quantum mechanics and general relativity.
What are the two great theories in physics that explain almost everything?
-The two great theories are general relativity, which describes space, time, and gravity on the largest scales of the universe, and quantum mechanics, which describes atoms, matter, and the smallest scales.
Why do general relativity and quantum mechanics appear to contradict each other?
-General relativity and quantum mechanics appear to contradict each other at the most fundamental level because they are each verified to astonishing precision but describe the universe in very different ways, with general relativity being a classical theory and quantum mechanics being inherently probabilistic.
What is the assumption hidden in the term 'quantum gravity'?
-The term 'quantum gravity' assumes that the solution to unifying quantum mechanics and general relativity is to 'quantize' gravity, making it work correctly alongside quantum mechanics.
What is the post-quantum gravity hypothesis proposed by Jonathan Oppenheim?
-The post-quantum gravity hypothesis suggests that gravity is not quantum but rather has an element of randomness or 'noise' that allows it to be compatible with quantum mechanics without needing to quantize spacetime itself.
What are the Einstein field equations?
-The Einstein field equations are a set of 10 partial differential equations that equate the geometry of spacetime, described by the Einstein tensor, with the distribution of matter and energy, described by the stress-energy tensor.
How does the concept of semiclassical gravity relate to the discussion of quantum and classical gravity?
-Semiclassical gravity is an approach where spacetime curvature is defined by the expectation value of the stress-energy tensor, allowing for quantum matter to influence a classical spacetime. It has been historically successful but faces issues when considering quantum superpositions.
What is the issue with using semiclassical gravity to describe a quantum object in superposition?
-The issue with semiclassical gravity is that it leads to a singular spacetime geometry defined by the expectation value of the quantum object's location, which can result in odd behaviors, such as objects appearing to be attracted to nothing, and violates the uncertainty principle.
How does the addition of noise to gravity in post-quantum gravity resolve the issues with semiclassical gravity?
-In post-quantum gravity, the addition of noise to the gravitational field allows for a probabilistic interaction between quantum objects and spacetime, preventing the violation of the uncertainty principle and allowing quantum objects to maintain their quantum behavior.
What is the radical aspect of Oppenheim's post-quantum gravity theory?
-The radical aspect of Oppenheim's theory is that it introduces true randomness into the gravitational field, which has implications for the determinism of physics and the conservation of quantum information.
What is the potential consequence of allowing quantum information to be destroyed in post-quantum gravity?
-Allowing quantum information to be destroyed by random fluctuations in the gravitational field could resolve paradoxes such as the black hole information paradox and provide a consistent way for classical spacetime to evolve with quantum matter.
Outlines
🔬 The Quest for Quantum Gravity and Postquantum Gravity Hypothesis
The script introduces the ongoing search for a theory of quantum gravity, which aims to reconcile general relativity and quantum mechanics. It presents the idea that gravity might not be quantum at all, but rather exhibit a kind of randomness as suggested by Jonathan Oppenheim's postquantum gravity hypothesis. The paragraph discusses the conflict between general relativity, which describes the large-scale universe, and quantum mechanics, which governs the small scale. It also touches on the challenges of unifying these theories and the potential need to rethink our approach to gravity's quantum nature.
🌌 Einstein's General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics Dilemma
This paragraph delves into the specifics of Einstein's field equations from general relativity and contrasts them with the probabilistic nature of the Schrödinger equation in quantum mechanics. It explains the classical nature of the Einstein equation and the quantum behavior of particles and fields, highlighting the difficulty in merging these two frameworks. The paragraph also explores the concept that classical behavior might emerge from a multitude of quantum interactions, suggesting that the classical stress-energy tensor could be derived from quantum entities.
📚 The Challenge of Unifying Quantum Mechanics with Classical Gravity
The script discusses the challenges of creating a quantum version of the Einstein tensor and the idea proposed by Jonathan Oppenheim that spacetime might remain classical while matter and energy are quantum. It uses the example of the Earth's atoms and their quantum uncertainty to illustrate how a classical stress-energy tensor could emerge from quantum components. The paragraph also examines the implications of treating the gravitational field as a superposition of possible spacetimes and the problems that arise when trying to reconcile this with Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
🌐 Post-Quantum Gravity: A Solution with Intrinsic Randomness
The final paragraph introduces Oppenheim's post-quantum gravity theory, which incorporates a type of randomness into gravity itself to allow for a singular classical spacetime that is compatible with quantum mechanics. It explains how this randomness prevents the violation of the uncertainty principle and allows for the destruction of quantum information, potentially resolving paradoxes like the black hole information paradox. The script concludes by reflecting on the implications of this theory for the unification of physics' fundamental theories and ends with a promotional note about a limited edition Desktop & Gaming Mat.
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Keywords
💡Quantum Gravity
💡General Relativity
💡Quantum Mechanics
💡Superposition
💡Stress-Energy Tensor
💡Einstein Equation
💡Semiclassical Gravity
💡Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle
💡Decoherence
💡Post-Quantum Gravity
Highlights
Introduction of a new product at the merch store with more info at the end of the episode.
The theoretical pursuit of quantum gravity, questioning if gravity is quantum or just appears messy or random as per Jonathan Oppenheim's postquantum gravity hypothesis.
General relativity and quantum mechanics, the two great verified theories in physics that seem to contradict each other at a fundamental level.
The conflict between quantum mechanics and general relativity and the efforts to unify them into a single theory.
The assumption that gravity must be quantized to work with quantum mechanics and the possibility that this assumption might be incorrect.
Einstein's field equations and the concept that spacetime geometry is equated with its contents.
The distinction between the classical nature of the Einstein equation and the quantum nature of the Schrödinger equation.
The idea that classical behavior arises from a statistical limit of large numbers of quantum interactions.
The challenge of creating a quantum analog for the classical stress-energy tensor in the Einstein equation.
Jonathan Oppenheim's proposal that only the right side of the Einstein equation is quantum, not the left, suggesting a fundamentally classical spacetime.
The thought experiment involving measuring the position of the Earth's center of mass and its implications for the classical stress-energy tensor.
The problem with semiclassical gravity and its inconsistency with quantum mechanics when dealing with quantum superpositions.
The proposal of a classical spacetime in superposition with its contents as an alternative to semiclassical gravity.
The violation of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in the context of a classical gravitational field and the quantum double-slit experiment.
The concept of adding noise to gravity itself in post-quantum gravity to allow for a singular classical spacetime that is compatible with quantum objects.
The feedback mechanism in Oppenheim's theory where the noisiness of the gravitational field affects the quantum matter generating the field, leading to decoherence.
The resolution of the uncertainty principle issue in the double-slit experiment through the introduction of a noisy gravitational field.
The radical aspect of post-quantum gravity that abandons determinism and allows for the destruction of quantum information.
The potential resolution of the black hole information paradox through the allowance of quantum information destruction in Oppenheim's theory.
The speculative nature of post-quantum gravity and its significance as a new direction in the pursuit to unify quantum mechanics and general relativity.
Announcement of a limited edition Desktop & Gaming Mat with a wormhole design and its features.
Transcripts
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The holy grail of theoretical physics is to find the long-sought theory of
quantum gravity. But what if this theory is as mythical as the grail
of legend? What if gravity isn’t weirdly quantum at all, but rather … just a bit
messy? Or random? So says the postquantum gravity hypothesis of Jonathan Oppenheim.
We have two great theories in physics that together appear to explain almost everything.
There’s general relativity–the theory of space and time and gravity and the largest scales of
the universe. And there's quantum mechanics–the theory of atoms, matter, and the smallest scales.
These theories are each verified to astonishing precision, and yet seem to contradict each other
at the most fundamental level. We’ve talked about these conflicts in the past, and the efforts to
resolve them by unifying quantum mechanics and general relativity into a single theory.
We usually think of this master theory as “quantum gravity”, but that name hides an assumption:
the assumption that the solution is to “quantize gravity” in order to work correctly alongside
quantum mechanics. But after nearly 100 years of very smart people thinking about this,
we still don’t know how to make gravity quantum. Well, what if we’ve been going about it wrong
all along? What if gravity simply isn’t quantum? Today we will ask whether it’s possible to come
up with classical theory of gravity which is compatible with all the weirdness of quantum
mechanics? According to physicist Jonathan Oppenheim, the answer is basically yes,
but some additional weirdness must be added to gravity and its interactions: it must be random.
Before we get into the type of “randomness” gravity needs to make such a theory work,
let’s discuss what happens when one naively tries to couple classical gravity as we
know it to quantum theory. Our starting point is Einstein’s famous equations of general relativity.
Here we have the Einstein field equations. We have the Einstein tensor, which describes the
geometry of spacetime, equalling a bunch of constants times the stress-energy tensor,
which describes the matter and energy inside that spacetime. By the way,
the Einstein field equations are pluralized because these tensors are multi-part objects–it’s
really a set of 10 partial differential equations. But despite the name it’s ok
to think of it as a single equation–it equates the geometry of spacetime with its contents. As
John Archibald Wheeler put it, space tells matter how to move, matter tells space how
to curve. In other words, the right side defines the dynamics–how matter will move,
while the left is the mass-energy that gets moved. So let's just call it the Einstein equation.
The Einstein equation is a classical equation. Despite being complicated,
its parts are regular numbers and vectors–for example, the stress-energy tensor has things
like momenta, energy, and mass of objects in the universe, while the Einstein tensor
describes a smoothly varying field with a well-define and singular value everywhere.
The Einstein equation of general relativity describes spacetime and gravity, while the rest
of physics is described by quantum mechanics and the Schrodinger equation. The Schrodinger equation
is distinctly not classical–it does not describe precise properties of objects but rather tracks
the evolution of the wavefunction–the fuzzy distribution of probabilities,
representing what might be observed when a measurement is made. Its subjects–systems of
quantum particles and quantum fields–are quantized, in that they tend to jump
between discrete states rather than move or vary smoothly like a classical object or field would.
We tend to think that our classical, macroscopic world arises as the combination of countless
quantum interactions–we’d say that classical behavior is a statistical limit of large numbers
of quantum interactions. In that spirit, many physicists believe the general relativity and
the Einstein equation are not fundamental, but rather emerge from quantum foundations.
And that's understandable, because we do know that matter and energy are fundamentally quantum. There
must be quantum fields and quantum particles that somehow work together to produce the classical
stress-energy tensor. Those quantum entities do all the weird quantum stuff, like existing
in superpositions of being in multiple states at once and having discrete energy levels.
So the classical stress-energy tensor on the right of the Einstein equation should emerge
from some quantum analog. Standard approaches to unifying quantum mechanics and general relativity
have been to try to make the left side of the equation quantum also–effectively to
find a quantum version of the Einstein tensor representing a quantum spacetime geometry. But
our long difficulties in making that work is what led Jonathan Oppenheim to ask–what if
only the right side of the Einstein equation is quantum but not the left? What if matter
and energy can be quantum, but the spacetime they live in really is fundamentally classical?
The challenge here is that both sides of the Einstein equation have to be the same
type of mathematical object. So if the spacetime represented by the Einstein tensor is classical,
then we should probably understand how a classical distribution of mass and energy
defined by a classical stress-energy tensor can arise from quantum parts.
Take the Earth for example. Each of its countless atoms has a bit of quantum
uncertainty in its position. Each atom is in a superposition of multiple places at
once until measured. If you were to measure one atom, its location would
resolve randomly within a small range defined by the uncertainty principle.
But each different possible location for that one atom gives a different stress-energy tensor for
that atom, and so a different spacetime geometry due to the gravitational field of that atom.
So what if you try to measure the position of the entire Earth by finding its center of mass?
Think of that as measuring the position of every single atom in unison. If those
positions all get defined randomly, then any significant variations cancel out. It’s like
flipping a coin a kajillion times–you tend towards roughly end up with equal numbers
of heads versus tails. In the same way, each time you measure the center of mass of the
Earth you’ll get the same position–accounting for its own movement of course. You find the
same stress-energy tensor and so the same gravitational field each time you
look. This is why the stress-energy tensor for macroscopic objects can be treated as classical.
What about describing a classical gravitational field for a truly quantum object? Let's look at
two options: we can either write down all the possible stress-energy tensors for all possible
locations of that object. The Einstein equation could then be used to find a whole family of
possible gravitational fields for each of those. A superposition of many mass-energy
distributions leading to a superposition of possible spacetimes. While the superposition
part of this is a quantum phenomenon, each spacetime in the superposition is
otherwise classical–for example, its smoothly varying, without discrete, quantized states.
Alternatively, we could say that there’s just one spacetime which is
somehow uniquely defined by the superposition of all of those mass-energy distributions. As
though the effect of matter on the fabric of spacetime is determined
by every possible configuration that quantum matter might be in.
Both of these approaches are problematic. Let’s start with the second one I described–a singular
spacetime shaped by the quantum superposition of mass and energy that it contains. In fact,
this is historically the most successful approach to introducing quantum mechanics into general
relativity. It’s called semiclassical gravity, and it’s how Stephen Hawking figured out that
radiation leaks out of black holes. The idea is that spacetime curvature is defined by something
called the expectation value of the stress-energy tensor. The expectation value is just the average
measurement value you would get if you were to measure a quantum system multiple times.
It better reflects the global wavefunction than does a single, random measured realization of it.
In our example of the Earth, we saw that the location of the center of mass doesn’t
depend on the quantum uncertainty of its component atoms. That’s basically
the same as saying its classical stress-energy tensor is equal to
the expectation value of the total quantum stress-energy tensor of all of its atoms.
But consider a truly quantum object–say, a quantum version of the Earth that really could exist in
a superposition in which there are two locations for its center of mass. If you were to measure the
location of the quantum Earth it would resolve to, say, left or right. The expectation value
of its location prior to measurement would be halfway in between. In semiclassical gravity,
that in-between location defines the singular spacetime geometry and the gravitational field.
In regular classical gravity, objects like apples fall towards the center of mass. In semiclassical
gravity apples fall towards the expectation value of the center of mass. In the case of the
quantum Earth in superposition it falls halfway between the two possible locations. In fact,
each version of Earth should also fall towards that inbetween point. For those
living in one of those superpositions unable to see the other superposition,
the Earth would appear to be attracted towards nothing. Needless to say, this seems odd.
Semiclassical gravity was always meant to be an approximation,
valid only in specific circumstances. But this thought experiment rules it
out as a consistent unification of quantum mechanics and classical general relativity.
OK, moving right along. The other option I mentioned for gravity being classical-ish
is for there to be a different classical spacetime corresponding to each possible
mass-energy distribution in our quantum stress-energy tensor.
If our quantum Earth is in a superposition of two locations, then instead of having a single,
classical spacetime geometry representing the average of the two, we might have a superposition
of two spacetime geometries–one for each of the two mass-energy distributions. In this case,
our falling apple wouldn’t fall towards the average center of mass. Instead,
it would fall to one or the other possible locations randomly.
This sounds more promising because now we have apparently random motion under
gravity that tracks the quantum randomness in the position of the
source of that gravity. But there’s actually a big problem here also.
This time we violate a sacred tenet of quantum theory:
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. The argument is due to Feynman, Aharonov,
and Rohrlich, and in somewhat simplified form goes like this.
We run our good-ol’ fashioned double slit experiment. A beam of quantum particles is shot at a pair of
slits. The quantum properties of the matter allow each particle to be in a superposition of paths,
passing through “both” slits at the same time. The wavefunctions of the particles interfere
with themselves and produce an interference pattern on the screen placed after the slits.
The shape of the interference pattern tells us the wavelength of the particle’s wavefunction,
which is equivalent to knowing it’s momentum. But according to Heisenberg's uncertainty
principle this means one shouldn’t be able to determine the particle position. So if
we measure the interference pattern we can’t know which slit the particle went through.
But what if we try to cheat by placing a test mass betweenf the slits. When our quantum
particle passes through one or the other of the slits then it will exert a stronger gravitational
pull on the test mass compared towards that slit. So the response of the test
mass should identify which slit was traversed without disturbing the interference pattern,
allowing us to simultaneously measure both position and momentum.
This method of cheating Heisenberg only works if the gravitational field of the particle is
localized and classical–i.e. the field really does pass through one slit or the other.
This has been taken as a solid argument for why gravity can’t be truly classical,
even if it’s allowed to be in superposition.
So far so bad. We found that a singular, classical spacetime geometry that depends
on the collective quantum state of its contents doesn’t behave sensibly
for quantum superpositions of matter. But an otherwise-classical spacetime geometry that
is in superpostion along with the superposition of its contents will
betray information about its contents in a way that violates the uncertainty principle.
But there is a way to have a singular, classical spacetime that allows its quantum
contents to still behave like quantum objects. The trick is to add … noise.
To add a type of randomness to gravity itself. In Jonathan Oppenheim’s theory,
which he calls post-quantum gravity–we still have a singular spacetime–one gravitational
field–but now it fluctuates randomly at every point. And the distribution of
values of those fluctuations reflects the quantum superposition of the matter generating the field.
Another way to think of it is like this. In regular general relativity,
when two objects interact gravitationally, they sort of learn each other’s location based on the
direction of the gravitational field. It’s that perfect learning of position that can violate
the uncertainty principle. But in post-quantum gravity, gravitationally interacting objects
don’t “learn” precise positions, but rather a probabilistic distribution of the possible
positions that depend on the position wavefunction of the sources of gravity.
Let’s see how this works with the example of quantum Earth in superposition. The apple
starts falling generally towards the Earth, but due to the fluctuations in the gravitational
field you can’t at first tell whether it’s falling more left or more right. In fact,
those fluctuations cause the falling apple to take a sort of random walk,
sometimes drawn more to the left superposition, sometimes more to the right.
Let's see what the Earth is doing as the apple falls? Well, in Oppenheim’s theory,
there’s feedback between the noisiness of the gravitational field and the quantum matter that
generates that field. So the quantum matter of the Earth gets its own random fluctuations. These
fluctuations slowly destroy the superposition–they cause decoherence–basically, they collapse the
wavefunction of the quantum Earth. This causes the Earth to end up at a single location. In a
sense, with every interaction between the apple and the Earth’s gravitational field,
the apple conducts a very gentle measurement of the Earth’s position.
The strength of these measurements increases as the apple gets closer to the Earth. Over the fall,
Earth and apple become correlated, and the Earth’s position becomes defined. If the apple fell more
to the left, that’s where the Earth’s center of mass will end up, if the the right, the right.
This fundamental randomness also resolves the issue with the uncertainty principle when we
tried to use gravity to measure the path in the double-slit experiment. If the gravitational field
of the particles in the beam are noisy, and that noisiness reflects the superposition of traveling
through both paths, then we can no longer use that field to perfectly identify which path was taken.
Perhaps the most radical aspect of Oppenheim’s idea is that it throws
away determinism. It requires that this noise in the gravitational field is truly random.
And perhaps the most radical consequence of that is that it allows for the destruction
of quantum information. Conservation of quantum information is thought by many to
be among the most fundamental underpinnings of quantum mechanics–that without it quantum
mechanics is inconsistent. At the same time, insisting on the preservation of information
led to various challenges, like the black hole information paradox. If you allow
quantum information to be destroyed by random fluctuations, then no such paradox exists.
So, it seems Oppenheim’s theory can describe in a consistent way how classical spacetime
evolves with superpositions of quantum matter, and also how quantum matter itself evolves under
the interaction with a classical spacetime. Post-quantum gravity isn’t likely to be our
final theory, and it may or may not be on the right track. But it’s very interesting to see
that there are still new directions to solving this century-old problem. It give us hope that
we’ll eventually unify our two great theories. Will it be quantum or post-quantum gravity?
As long as we figure it out, I’m cool living in either a quantized or a random spacetime.
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