Orthodox Christianity for Beginners - Jonathan Pageau

Protecting Veil
5 May 202312:35

Summary

TLDRThe speaker emphasizes the transformative journey of embracing Orthodox Christianity, highlighting the necessity of active engagement, discipline, and submission to spiritual guidance. Orthodoxy is portrayed as a counter-cultural path that offers a profound connection to Christ and the divine, preserving the multifaceted aspects of Christian tradition. It stands as an antidote to modern world's fragmentation and despair, providing a holistic cultural pattern that can reinvigorate and offer meaning, with a deep sense of continuity linking the present to the early Christian era.

Takeaways

  • 🚫 Orthodoxy is not a faith that can be entered or lived passively; it requires active engagement and discipline.
  • 🙏 The process of becoming Orthodox involves confession, taking on certain disciplines, and moving forward in spiritual growth.
  • 🔑 Orthodoxy is not about living on one's own terms; it's about entering into a life of submission to traditions, principles, and spiritual guidance.
  • 🌟 The heart of Orthodoxy is Christ, who is seen as the implicit principle of the world and the multifaceted presence in all aspects of life.
  • 👶 The concept of Christ as a hidden spark within people and the world is a profound aspect of Orthodox belief.
  • ✝️ Christ's image as the one who takes on death and as the sovereign figure in the church is central to Orthodox understanding.
  • 🕊️ Orthodoxy offers a way to perceive and participate in the divine energies of God, allowing individuals to commune and grow closer to God.
  • 🌱 The life of the Saints and the communion of the Saints are seen as manifestations of Christ's presence in the world, filling it with divine light.
  • 🏰 Orthodoxy stands out as a counter-culture to modern world values, offering an alternative path away from nihilism and fragmentation.
  • 🌐 The preservation of traditional Christian practices and beliefs in Orthodoxy provides a solid foundation against the chaos of the modern world.
  • 🌿 Converts often approach Orthodoxy intellectually first, through reading and study, before encountering the reality of its human community and practices.
  • 🎨 Orthodox art, architecture, music, and liturgy are interconnected, creating a holistic cultural and spiritual experience that is unique to the tradition.
  • 🔗 The deep connection to the past and the continuity of Orthodox tradition offers a powerful sense of belonging to a civilization that spans two thousand years.

Q & A

  • What is the primary message about Orthodoxy conveyed in the script?

    -The primary message is that Orthodoxy is not just a faith to be adopted superficially, but a way of life that requires active engagement, discipline, and submission to spiritual authorities and traditions.

  • What does the speaker suggest is the most important aspect of Orthodoxy?

    -The speaker suggests that the heart of Orthodoxy is Christ, who is seen as the implicit principle of the world and the unifying presence that fills everything from the highest to the lowest.

  • How does the speaker describe the process of becoming Orthodox?

    -The process of becoming Orthodox is described as one that cannot be done superficially or on one's own terms. It involves confession, taking on certain disciplines, and moving forward slowly in a life of submission to spiritual authorities and traditions.

  • What is the significance of the 'hidden spark' concept in Orthodoxy as mentioned in the script?

    -The 'hidden spark' concept refers to the idea that Christ is hidden in the world and in people, suggesting the presence of divine potential or Christ-like qualities within every individual.

  • What role do the Saints play in the Orthodox tradition according to the script?

    -The Saints are seen as manifestations of Christ's presence in the world, embodying the divine energies of God and providing examples of how to live a life filled with Christ.

  • How does the speaker view the relationship between Orthodoxy and modern culture?

    -The speaker views Orthodoxy as being counter-cultural to the modern world, offering a path away from the nihilism, desperation, and fragmentation prevalent in modern society.

  • What does the speaker believe Orthodoxy can offer to the West?

    -Orthodoxy can offer the West a life in Christ, the communion of the Saints, and a connection to a deep historical and spiritual tradition that can reinvigorate culture and provide a sense of meaning and cohesion.

  • What is the significance of the preservation of traditional patterns in Orthodoxy, as per the script?

    -The preservation of traditional patterns in Orthodoxy, such as the connection between scripture, the lives of the Saints, Liturgy, iconography, and architecture, provides a holistic and meaningful framework for understanding faith and life.

  • How does the speaker describe the experience of encountering Orthodoxy as a convert?

    -The speaker describes the experience as initially intellectual, with a theoretical vision of Orthodoxy, but later realizing the need to engage with the human community, overcome disillusionment, and slowly move forward on the spiritual path.

  • What does the speaker suggest is the key to personal transformation within Orthodoxy?

    -The key to personal transformation within Orthodoxy is the capacity to let the light of Christ transform oneself, opening up to divine light and participating in the life of God to the extent possible.

  • How does the speaker describe the sense of historical continuity in Orthodoxy?

    -The speaker describes a deep connection to the past, feeling as though Orthodox believers are still living in earlier centuries due to the continuity of thought, practice, and tradition that has been preserved and is still part of the Orthodox package.

Outlines

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🙏 Embracing Orthodoxy: A Journey of Spiritual Discipline

The speaker emphasizes that becoming Orthodox is not a passive process but an active commitment involving confession, discipline, and submission to spiritual authorities. Orthodoxy is not about individual terms but about engaging with a life and relationships that are counter to modern culture. The heart of Orthodoxy is identified as Christ, who is seen in various forms, from the hidden spark in people to the Sovereign in the church dome. The speaker highlights the importance of understanding the multifaceted nature of Christ and the Orthodox tradition's ability to offer a path away from the world's fragmentation and despair.

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🌏 Orthodoxy's Answer to Modern World Despair

The speaker discusses the stark contrast between Orthodoxy and the modern world's issues, such as loss of meaning, widespread depression, and addiction. Orthodoxy is presented as a counter-culture that offers a different path, one that can reinvigorate culture and provide a solid foundation against societal fragmentation. The speaker's personal journey involves an initial intellectual attraction to Orthodoxy's theology and the realization of the human imperfections within the church community. The process of moving forward in Orthodoxy involves overcoming disillusionment and slowly progressing on a spiritual path, allowing the light of Christ to transform the individual.

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🕰️ The Timeless Connection of Orthodoxy

The speaker reflects on the deep historical connection within Orthodoxy, feeling a direct link to the early church fathers and theologians as if they are part of the current community. This sense of continuity is seen as a powerful aspect of Orthodoxy that has been largely lost in the West. The speaker describes the Orthodox tradition's preservation of a coherent pattern that connects scripture, the lives of the Saints, Liturgy, iconography, and architecture, offering a comprehensive framework for understanding and living in the modern world. This connection to the past provides a profound sense of being part of a civilization that spans two thousand years, with all aspects of Orthodox culture reflecting this deep rootedness in Christian civilization.

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Keywords

💡Orthodoxy

Orthodoxy in this context refers to the Orthodox Christian faith, which is one of the oldest Christian traditions and emphasizes the importance of tradition, liturgy, and the teachings of the early Church Fathers. It is central to the video's theme as the speaker discusses the process of becoming Orthodox and the counter-cultural nature of Orthodox practices, such as confession and submission to spiritual authorities.

💡Confession

Confession, in an Orthodox Christian context, is the sacrament of reconciliation where a believer confesses their sins to a priest, seeking forgiveness and spiritual guidance. The script mentions confession as one of the disciplines that Orthodox Christians must engage in to move forward in their faith, illustrating the commitment to personal spiritual growth and the role of the priesthood in the Orthodox tradition.

💡Disciplines

Disciplines, in the context of the video, refer to the spiritual practices and moral standards that Orthodox Christians are encouraged to adopt. These may include prayer, fasting, and adherence to the church's teachings. The speaker emphasizes that living Orthodoxy requires more than just a superficial commitment; it involves a disciplined lifestyle that is slowly adopted over time.

💡Submission

Submission is highlighted as a key aspect of Orthodox spirituality, where believers submit to the teachings of the Church, the guidance of spiritual fathers, and the traditions of the faith. The video discusses how this concept is counter to modern individualism and is essential for entering into a deeper relationship with the Orthodox faith and its community.

💡Christ

Christ is presented as the heart of Orthodoxy, with the speaker discussing the multifaceted aspects of Christ's identity within the faith. This includes Christ as the implicit principle of the world, the hidden spark in people, the one who takes on death, and the magnificent sovereign in the church's dome. The script uses the imagery of Christ to convey the depth and breadth of Orthodox theology and practice.

💡Divine energies

The term 'Divine energies' refers to the spiritual forces or powers of God that Orthodox Christians believe permeate all of creation. The speaker mentions these energies as part of the Orthodox understanding of God's active presence in the world, which believers can perceive and participate in as they grow in their faith and love for their neighbor.

💡Theophany

Theophany, in Orthodox Christianity, is the manifestation of God or a divine being. The speaker uses the term to describe the gradual spiritual awakening or revelation of God's presence that believers may experience as they progress on their spiritual path within Orthodoxy.

💡Saints

Saints are revered figures in Orthodox Christianity, known for their exemplary lives of faith and service to God. The script discusses how the life of the Saints and their stories fill the world with the presence of Christ, offering a model for believers to follow and demonstrating the transformative power of Orthodox faith.

💡Tradition

Tradition is a recurring theme in the video, referring to the long-standing beliefs, practices, and customs of the Orthodox Church. The speaker emphasizes the importance of submitting to these traditions as part of the Orthodox Christian journey, suggesting that they provide a stable and meaningful framework for spiritual life.

💡Nihilism

Nihilism is mentioned as a modern phenomenon that Orthodoxy can provide an antidote to. It refers to a general rejection of religious and moral principles, leading to a sense of despair and meaninglessness. The speaker suggests that Orthodox Christianity offers a path away from such despair by providing a solid foundation of faith and community.

💡Connection to the past

The video discusses the deep historical and spiritual connection that Orthodox Christians feel to the early Church Fathers and the centuries of Christian civilization. This connection is seen as a source of strength and continuity, providing a sense of rootedness and a living link to the origins of the faith.

Highlights

Orthodoxy requires active engagement and discipline, not just a passive belief.

Becoming Orthodox is a process that involves confession and submission to spiritual authorities.

Orthodoxy is counter-cultural, emphasizing relationships and submission over individualism.

The heart of Orthodoxy is Christ, who is seen as the implicit principle of the world.

Orthodoxy preserves the multifaceted aspects of Christ, from the hidden spark to the sovereign emperor.

The life of the Saints exemplifies the presence of Christ in the world.

Divine energies fill creation, and approaching Orthodoxy allows one to perceive and participate in this divine life.

Orthodoxy offers a path away from modern world's nihilism, desperation, and fragmentation.

Converts often approach Orthodoxy intellectually, through reading and theological study.

The human community of Orthodoxy can sometimes lead to disillusionment due to its imperfections.

Orthodoxy provides a path of spiritual growth, despite the initial disappointments.

The Orthodox tradition offers a deep connection to the past, with a sense of continuity from the early Church fathers to the present.

Orthodoxy's preservation of traditional patterns can reinvigorate Western culture and provide a framework for understanding the chaos of the modern world.

Orthodoxy's art, architecture, hymnology, and music reflect a deep connectedness to the Christian civilization.

The Orthodox Church offers a sense of living in a continuous line from Christ to the present day.

Orthodoxy's coherent pattern provides a sense of stability and meaning in a world that often feels fragmented and purposeless.

The Orthodox tradition can help Western society reconnect with a lost sense of community and continuity.

Transcripts

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I think the most important thing to know

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about the faith you know um

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is

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is that you can't

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become Orthodox you can't live Orthodoxy

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in a

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if you really want to live it you can't

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do it just coasting you can't you know

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you're not just saved and you know all

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is good there is a process you know you

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you engage you you go to confession you

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you you have to to take on certain

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disciplines and slowly try to to

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to move forward you know and so

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I think it's important for people to

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understand that as they enter it as they

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approach Orthodoxy is that it's not

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going to be on your own terms you know

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you have to you have to enter into a

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life and you have to enter into

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relationships of submission to to uh

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to other to to principles to Traditions

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to uh and to people you have to to

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submit to your Confessor submit to your

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spiritual father and so all of those

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things are so counter-cultural to the

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modern world that it's important to uh

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to understand to understand that as you

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approach as you approach Orthodoxy I

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think I think the heart of Orthodoxy is

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Christ I think that that's

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obvious and I think that what's amazing

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about Orthodoxy would have which I've

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found

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so profound is that Orthodoxy seems to

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have preserved or kept the multi the

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multiple aspects of Christ

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and and I think that that is so

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important and so profound and so we we

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have this notion of Christ as the uh

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implicit principle of the world and so

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we have this image of Christ as a child

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who is hidden in a cave and this notion

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of of Christ as the hidden spark which

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is hiding in the people that you meet

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you know that Christ is hidden in the

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world hidden in those in in in in in in

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in the cosmos then we also have the

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image of Christ as you know entering

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into death as taking on all of death

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onto himself have we have this image of

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Christ on the cross we have this image

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of Christ in the Dome of the church as

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The Sovereign as the Emperor as the as

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the the Magnificent one who is above

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everything and so I think that

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that once we

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once we see Christ that's filling up you

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know filling up everything from the

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highest to the lowest I think that that

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is really the heart of Orthodoxy and

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that is the most precious thing that it

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has to offer and then it then we see

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that this filling up of Christ from the

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highest to the lowest then

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also appears in the life of the Saints

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and in and and fills up the world in in

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all other types of ways and I think that

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really is the the way the the greatest

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thing that Orthodoxy has to offer is

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this this

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this filling up of the world with with

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Christ and with the the light of God the

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we talk about the Divine energies of God

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which fill up the all of creation and

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that we can that that we can perceive as

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we approach as we commune as we come

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together you know as we learn to love

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our neighbor as we learn we can we can

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approach God and participate in the life

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of God participate in in in in those

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those uh

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become you know God to the to the

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capacity that we can become God you know

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by participating in his life and and

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that is I mean that's mind-blowing for

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most western Christians to even here but

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uh but that all those things are the

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heart of Orthodoxy and and uh and I mean

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those are the things that get me excited

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when I when I think about about the

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Orthodox tradition

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uh yeah it is another step for the world

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Orthodox is definitely out of step with

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the world but then you know

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I don't I don't want to live in a world

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of zombies you know I know I don't I

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don't uh

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I also don't like

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certain aspects of where the world is

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going and I think that that traditional

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Christianity that Orthodoxy has an

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answer to the nihilism to the

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desperation that and to the

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fragmentation that we're seeing in the

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world so it is precisely because in a

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way Orthodoxy is out of step with the

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world that it can provide a path towards

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somewhere else towards something Central

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so you know something that is solid that

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can hold the world together and prevent

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it from falling into the abyss that it

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it seems to be to be headed into now in

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terms of our our

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loss of meaning loss of cohesion you

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know you know the fact that you know

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what is it like

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almost half of the people are on

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antidepressants half of the children are

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on some kind of drug you know it's you

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know everybody is addicted to to porn

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everybody's addicted to to to all kinds

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of things you know that's the image of

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of our world uh and so Orthodoxy is out

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of step with that and it can give you

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another path so yeah well I I can speak

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for my own for myself I think that a lot

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of converts not all converts but many

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converts that I've met and even myself

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we come at Orthodoxy at first

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intellectually in a way because we read

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books and we read theologians and we're

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we're amazed reading the church fathers

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we get this this amazing Vision you know

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you read the filokalia and you get the

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sense of of these spiritual fathers

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amazing spiritual fathers that that

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teach you the Jesus prayer and and so we

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have this Vision you know of uh of of

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Orthodox he's almost a theoretical

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vision of Orthodoxy and so

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sometimes you enter into the church and

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you realize that you know this is still

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a human Community with all the foibles

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and all the the the the difficulties

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that

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that comment with human institutions and

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so you know sometimes you you get this

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disillusion you know and I certainly

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felt it a disillusion to feel like no

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I'm not encountering you know what I

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read in the lives of the Saints I'm not

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encountering this amazing you know uh uh

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starrettes who will Who will take me you

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know like in the the Russian Pilgrim

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let's say which will take me to towards

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uh towards a mystical experience you

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know

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um uh and so you have to kind of get

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through that first wave of maybe uh

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intellectual disappointment to then

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realize you know that it's a that it's a

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path and that you're actually not very

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far on that path when you when you

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convert and you have to take the

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breadcrumbs that you can get and and

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just slowly move move forward despite

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all the the the difficulties despite all

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the fact you know all of people's faults

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and all of people's weaknesses and just

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kind of slowly move and as you slowly

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move then you feel you encounter this

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slow theophany that I that I that I

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discuss and I think that

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a lot of it will then depend on your own

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capacity to uh to let you know the light

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of of Christ to let the light of God

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transform you and to to to uh to open

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yourself up to that to that light so

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I think some of the the most the most

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important thing that Orthodoxy has to

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offer the West is obviously the the the

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life in Christ and the life of the

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church the communion of the Saints uh is

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the most important thing that it has to

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offer the world but since we're talking

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about culture and we're talking about

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culture manifestations there's something

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very important that Orthodoxy can offer

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to the west and to the modern world and

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that is this amazing preservation of the

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totality of this pattern that I taught

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that I was talking about the the

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connection between the scripture and

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then the lives of the Saints and the

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Liturgy and the iconography and the

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architecture all of these like I said

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create this this amazing hole that can

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act as a

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a Sebastian and that can act as a a

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frame in which we can live in order to

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face the the chaos of the modern world

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and I think that that's something that

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used to be there in the West Was there

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at some point in the west but had been

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slowly degraded with time but for some

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Miracle miraculous reason you know it

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has been preserved in the Orthodox

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tradition and it has been constantly

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revived and uh

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and kept and so I think that it can

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offer a breath of fresh air to the West

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it can help to reinvigorate our culture

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and reinvigorate our forms and help

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people see all those connections in in

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uh in the stories where we have been

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taken over by the scholarly approach

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where we've dissected the Bible we've

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dissected the stories in this in this

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critical historical way but

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Orthodoxy brings us back to the poem

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brings us back to this beautiful pattern

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which runs through everything and so we

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can enter into that and it uh it

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actually

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is that symbolism it brings meaning

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together in our lives and and it can do

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that in our society

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it's interesting because when you talk

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to Orthodox people often you know you

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you get the feeling that they're still

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living you know in the

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in the 4th century or you know the 7th

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Century or the 8th Century or there or

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the 11th century there is this very very

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deep Connection to the Past and this

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feeling like those fathers that wrote

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you know

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the The ecumenical councils you know the

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the the theologians that that precede us

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that we're still engaging with them that

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they're part of our community and I

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think that

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I think that that is a really really

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powerful thing that has been

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lost quite a bit in the west you know

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you know Catholicism has a little bit

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more of it but it's truly astounding to

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to to engage with Orthodox people and

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really feel like they're talking about

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same basil as if Saint Basil had lived

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you know last week uh and uh and and

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engaging with with their thought and

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talking and so I think that that's

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really a very powerful thing is to to

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really live in this line to feel like

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there is this line from Christ up to

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today and we inhabit that line we

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inhabit that that thread you know uh

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through the early fathers and then then

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through the hezekastic renewal and all

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these things still exist today and still

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are part of the whole package let's say

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of Orthodoxy and uh and it's difficult

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to describe but there really is that

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that feeling of being connected you know

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being connected to this whole

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civilization that has been there for two

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thousand years so I think that um

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yeah I think that that that is something

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very profound and and you see it not

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only in the text let's say with the

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fathers but you see it like I said you

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see it in the art in the visual uh you

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see the architecture we see it in the

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hymnology we see it in the music

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everything

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has this deep connectedness to you know

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to this line that goes all the way to

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Christ

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that uh they it's very beautiful and it

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it has preserved uh let's say this

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coherent pattern that I talk about and

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it because of that it it inhabits that

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that grand pattern that that huge

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pattern that that has been let's say the

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Christian civilization

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