This Is What They Don’t Want You to Know About the Climate Agenda

Summary

Astrophysicist Willie Soon discusses the origins of fossil fuels, arguing they may have a non-biological origin deep underground instead of coming from ancient forests and dinosaurs. He critiques climate change science, claiming rising CO2 levels have negligible impact and that changes are likely solar-driven. He alleges data manipulation in prominent climate studies, condemns IPCC processes as politically compromised, and accuses figures like Al Gore of scientific dishonesty. Soon advocates for nuclear power and laments politicized funding determining allowable research topics. He sees hints of God in elegant mathematical solutions predicting later discoveries like antimatter.

Takeaways

• 😲 Hydrocarbons like oil and gas can be created without biology, just under high pressure - evidence shows this happens deep inside planets
• 😮 There's evidence oil and gas exist outside biology - one of Saturn's moons has huge reserves
• 🤔 If oil and gas aren't all from ancient fossils, the assumptions about limited supplies and climate impact could be wrong
• 😠 IPCC climate reports seem politically motivated, not purely scientific
• 🧐 Evidence shows concrete and asphalt in cities raise temperatures more than CO2 - this could explain perceived warming
• 😕 Funding structures pressure and limit scientists from publishing conclusions against establishment views
• 🌞 Evidence suggests variation in the sun's brightness causes climate change far more than CO2 does
• 🙏 Mathematical solutions pre-dating real world discoveries suggest metaphysical forces at play to some scientists
• ⚖️ Science progress requires transparency, open debate and freedom to challenge existing ideas
• 😇 Focusing on conservation, innovation and empowering people offers more hope than restrictive government policies

Q & A

What evidence does Dr. Soon provide that oil and gas can be produced without biological sources?

Dr. Soon discusses evidence from Saturn's moon Titan, which has large oceans of liquid methane and ethane despite having no life. He also cites lab experiments recreating conditions deep underground to produce hydrocarbons without biology.

How does Dr. Soon explain past climate changes like the Little Ice Age?

Dr. Soon provides extensive evidence that fluctuations in solar activity, specifically changes in brightness and sunspot activity, correlate well with past climate shifts like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period.

What does Dr. Soon think is the primary driver of recent warming if not CO2?

Dr. Soon believes changes in solar activity are likely responsible for most recent warming, but he admits the scientific community does not have 100% certainty on what is causing climate change.

Why does Dr. Soon believe the hockey stick temperature graph is flawed?

Dr. Soon takes issues with the hockey stick graph's lack of Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age. He also notes the warming trend begins before meaningful human CO2 emissions.

What does Dr. Soon believe is the role of funding in silencing scientists?

Dr. Soon argues that reliance on government funding leads many scientists to stay silent instead of questioning the consensus on climate change and CO2's role.

How does Dr. Soon rebut calls to phase out fossil fuels?

Dr. Soon points out that even with massive investments, wind and solar only provide a small fraction of global energy needs. He advocates for next-generation nuclear power as a better path forward.

What evidence does Dr. Soon cite for issues in peer-reviewed climate science literature?

Dr. Soon boldly claims 80-90% of modern climate science papers should not have passed peer review. He sees extensive problems from groupthink and reliance on faulty surface temperature datasets.

What mathematical discoveries lead Dr. Soon to see glimpses of God?

Dr. Soon discusses mathematical formulations that predicted later scientific discoveries, like antimatter from Dirac's equations. These give him faith in an ever-present creative force.

How does Dr. Soon rebut arguments to 'save the planet' from climate change?

Dr. Soon challenges those claiming ability to 'save the planet,' questioning their moral authority to prescribe conditions for all humanity based on highly uncertain science.

What does Dr. Soon believe is the ultimate solution for issues in modern science?

Dr. Soon believes renewed focus on independence, transparency, accountability, and virtues like courage and honesty will help address deep problems across many scientific fields.

Outlines

00:00

🌍 The misleading theory about the fossil fuel origins and implications

Paragraph 1 discusses the common belief that fossil fuels like oil, natural gas and coal come from ancient organic materials like forests and plankton. But there is evidence this may not be fully true - hydrocarbons are found deep under oceans and on other planets. This raises questions about where they actually come from, why this isn't commonly known, and what it means for climate change policies that target fossil fuel use.

05:02

💡 The ultimate resource is human innovation, not limited materials

Paragraph 2 relates to economist Julian Simon's idea that the ultimate resource is human ingenuity, not limited physical materials. Just as only a portion of oil reserves can currently be extracted, innovation and technology can make more accessible over time. The biogenic theory shows oil can form without biology under the right temperature and pressure conditions.

10:03

😤 IPCC and leading figures spread half-truths and refuse questions

Paragraph 3 criticizes the IPCC and public figures like Al Gore and John Kerry for making simple claims about climate change but refusing to explain the mechanics or address basic questions. Over 30 years studying climate, Willie Soon is convinced CO2 does not drive climate change - factors like sun cycles better explain historical variations.

15:05

☀️ Sunspot cycles and Earth orbits explain historical climate shifts

Paragraph 4 describes how fluctuations in solar brightness and Earth's orbit closely match historical climate shifts like the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period. IPCC tries to downplay these natural causes to claim CO2 drives warming, but the evidence shows tiny solar variations have huge climate effects.

20:05

🚫 Groupthink and funding bias infect climate science publications

Paragraph 5 examines the Maunder solar minimum when sunspots disappeared as evidence of solar effects on climate. It then critiques Michael Mann's debunked hockey stick graph as an example of mathematical models being promoted over data. Soon believes 80-90% of today's climate science literature is too flawed for publication.

25:05

💰 Climate science follows the money and political agenda, not truth

Paragraph 6 argues today's climate science is corrupted by a biased funding structure incentivizing alarmist positions. Though most scientists likely disagree with IPCC conclusions in private, fear and groupthink prevent dissent. Policy should rely on evidence, not claims of consensus or polling.

30:07

🤦‍♂️ IPCC denies inconvenient critiques on absurd procedural grounds

Paragraph 7 shares how the IPCC excluded Willie Soon's comprehensive research on solar effects on climate for arbitrary reasons regarding publication timing. This demonstrates how the IPCC is not actually interested in considering all evidence, only that which aligns with its existing positions and agenda.

35:10

⚛️ Nuclear and fossil fuels safely support humanity's needs

Paragraph 8 calculates fossil fuels and advanced nuclear technology could provide abundant energy for thousands of years if fully leveraged. But irrational fears and overregulation prevent nuclear adoption while specious climate alarmism threatens fossil fuels. Renewables like solar and wind remain negligible despite trillions spent.

40:10

📐 Symmetry in physics equations reveal glimpses of the divine

Paragraph 9 shares how physics sometimes reveals symmetry or conceptual links that seem almost supernatural in origin. This sense of profound order and internal consistency offer Willie Soon glimpses of the divine or God's role in structuring the cosmos in elegant mathematical ways.

45:12

🙏 Seeking moral authority to transform society requires humility

Paragraph 10 argues figures like Al Gore wrongly claim enough moral authority to advocate drastic societal changes. But no one can predict the impacts of climate action or has the wisdom to prescribe global solutions. This ambition reflects a dangerous loss of humility before nature's complexity.

Keywords

💡fossil fuels

Fossil fuels like oil, natural gas and coal are believed to come from ancient organic material like forests and plankton. But the video questions this, giving evidence that hydrocarbons may have non-biological origins deep in the Earth's mantle. This challenges mainstream assumptions about limited fossil fuel supplies.

💡hydrocarbons

Hydrocarbons are compounds made of hydrogen and carbon that form key components of fossil fuels. The video discusses astronomical evidence showing hydrocarbons existing where biology seems unlikely, like deep oceans and Saturn's moons. This suggests some hydrocarbons may form abiogenically through pressure and heat.

💡climate change

The video argues rising CO2 levels do not drive climate change, contrary to mainstream climate science. It cites solar brightness variations as a key factor in climate shifts, giving the Little Ice Age when solar activity was low. The video is deeply skeptical of the consensus on anthropogenic global warming.

💡CO2

Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas blamed for climate change, but the video calls it the "gas of life" that promotes plant growth. It strongly disputes CO2's climatic impact and the rationale for reducing emissions, a central theme.

💡funding

The video alleges that the structure of scientific funding silences dissenting voices on climate change, coercing agreement. It portrays mainstream climate science as corrupted by money and politics rather than empiricism.

💡solar variations

Subtle historical changes in the Sun's brightness are proposed as a chief driver of climate shifts like the Little Ice Age, not human activity. While a controversial idea, it matches the video's theme of downplaying CO2's climatic role.

💡urban heat islands

Urban centers with concrete and asphalt retain more heat than rural areas. The video argues much of the surface warming claimed as climate change actually reflects increasing urbanization, not CO2 trends.

💡scientific method

The video implicitly contrasts politics-driven mainstream climate science with traditional virtues of scientific skepticism, open debate and transparency. It positions itself as defending the scientific method.

💡God

Mathematical discoveries in physics sometimes suggest divine origins to the speaker, dovetailing with the video's skepticism of human-centric climate science and environmentalism.

💡authority

The speaker argues elite politics and scientists wrongly claim

Highlights

Hydrocarbons are not all from fossils, they can be produced by simulating conditions under Earth's crust

Saturn's moon Titan has oceans of liquid methane and ethane, suggesting hydrocarbons exist without biology

The ultimate resource is not materials but human innovation and imagination

CO2 does not significantly impact climate - it won't change hurricanes, droughts or polar bears

The hockey stick graph showing flat temperatures before 1900 is mathematically produced, not real data

Warming began before meaningful human CO2 emissions, contradicting the CO2 theory

Climate change consensus is influenced by funding incentives, but many scientists likely disagree

Concrete and asphalt are raising temperatures from urban heat islands, not CO2

Rural temperature data tells a different story than the widely reported datasets

IPCC climate reports are substandard, political products that most real science does not support

Safe, efficient nuclear power could provide abundant energy for thousands of years

Despite spending trillions on solar/wind, they provide only 3% of world power

Beautiful mathematical solutions like Dirac's equation suggest an ever-present creative force

80-90% of climate change papers should not have passed peer review, degrading science

America has the foundation for being a great hope for humanity in its Constitutional principles

Transcripts

in the United States we often refer to

our main sources of energy as fossil

fuels oil natural gas coal they're

fossil fuels because they come from

fossils ancient organic material forests

jungles Plankton

dinosaurs held under the ground for

Millennia they transform into oil gas

and coal everybody thinks that's true on

the other hand there's evidence that

maybe it's not the whole story if that's

where fossil fuels come from if that's

how hydrocarbons are made then how come

they're found so deep under the oceans

and at the top of the Earth how come one

of Saturn's moons according to

scientists has more oil and natural gas

than Earth were there dinosaurs and

planktons and forests at one point on

one of Saturn's moons probably not so if

all hydrocarbons aren't from fossils

where are they from from and why isn't

this commonly known and what are the

implications of it and what does it tell

us about our modern climate change

policy these are not just esoteric

questions they're Central questions

actually as we chart the future of

energy usage in the world Willie soon

has been thinking about this for a long

time he's an astrophysicist a

geoscientist he spent 31 years at

Harvard he recently left and he joins us

here Dr soon thank you so much thank you

T I appreciate to be able to come on

your show well it's a blessing to have

you and this is such an interesting

question with so many implications um

and I want to spend most of our time

talking about the implications but just

to the strict question of where

hydrocarbons come from it sounds like

they're not necessarily all from ancient

forests or Plankton or dinosaurs are

they yes uh the story can be a bit long

so give me a few minutes to explain you

are certainly right but most important

to clarify is that the information that

is found on the largest moon on on

Saturn which called Titan yes is

actually results from NASA European

space agency and then the Italian space

agency who built this spacecraft called

Cassini and hyan actually one of my

thesis advisor committee is actually

built the UV spectrometer but the one

that they used to discover this

basically the ocean liquid liquid form

of methane which is in aan ethane form

which is much more complicated

hydrocarbon is whole ocean of it because

Titan is in such a way that it's very

cold by the way so it's minus 290 degre

Fahrenheit Yes hint hint hint where is

the global warming that right if it's

full of methane there right that's

another problem because it's far away

from the Sun that's what it is yes and

clearly that the question of a biogenic

meod which mean no no need of any

biology is true because we know actually

one experimental experiment was done in

2009 it was done in Swedish Royal

Academy one of those group but it's done

by one Russian leader he was able to

show that if you

squeeze Matan CH4 in chemical formula so

four hydrogen one carbon squeeze them in

a form that in which they simulate the

condition of the earth menal which is

1,800

miles deep kind of below the surface

because the Earth is deeper right and

it's within this 18 but basically the

condition that is only about 40 to 150

miles in that you actually can form

complex hydrocarbon you got Benzene you

got ethane you got all this other stuff

forming so that prove Beyond doubt that

you have such a way to make this plus

that Titan prove Beyond doubt you

actually see maintain also in all the

atmosphere Jupiter you know you even

find Benzene in the rocks of uh Mars and

then for me astrophysicist I can tell

you even more more you find this complex

hydrocarbon called polycyclic aromatic

hydrocarbon it's another one of those

complex hydrocarbon then actually you

found it in interstellar space between

space within Stars Intergalactic space

these are everywhere because temperature

there are cold and probably the right

pressure condition all this complex

hydrocarbon well that's it's kind of

incredible because all of us including

myself until very recently right assumed

that all of our energy sources are these

so-called fossil fuels and of course

their existence is going to be limited

by the amount of fossiles by the amount

of decaying organic material not so so

if that's not so then we need to rethink

a lot of things a lot I think I think

this one fit into a paradigm a famous uh

Economist that I like very much his name

is uh H Simon do you know about this guy

named Simon jul Simon Julian Simon yeah

the key guy Unity of Illinois and then

Maryland he was the say he was the guy

who said that the ultimate resource of

humanity or Earth is actually not all

this material thing like uranium gold

because uranium there are far more

uranium in the oceans than on the land

right you have 4.5 billion tons of

uranium in the ocean you have only 17

million tons of that gold uh copper what

what what do you want on the ocean it's

all that except they're in very dilute

form yes clearly so the ultimate

resource actually is not that is the

human mind it's it's the Innovation part

of it I think I like that principle a

lot it fits very well in terms of saying

that it's all matter of cost even oil

most I don't know if any any of you know

the audience know that 50 to 60% of the

the all actually all the oil that you

already drill the drill hole there you

can only pull out 40 to 50% of it 60% of

that remains in it because simply

because there's not enough pressure to

get it out this is why the the idea of a

biogenic oil is interesting is true

clearly true it's all matter of cost

really because this thing has the form

way inside the uh the Earth the manal

which is 50 to 100 100 miles right human

how deep have we ever drilled only the

skin which is only five miles maximum

five to you know six mil basically

that's at most that we can do and then

all this stuff had to permit into the

reservoir I I got this information from

the top people that physically have to

look for oil every day one of my friend

Joseph lime cooler from Beacon energy

offshore energy those are the guys who

work day in and day out to bring us the

energy actually the oil that we need so

why why don't most people know this why

do most people think that the the

gasoline in their car was by definition

have to be limited yeah yeah yeah that

there's that there's just a tiny amount

and it's it's going away we'll never

find more the war is full of untruth and

half truth right that's the whole

problem right that's why for so long

even the idea that we are not limited

and bounded by availability of uh let's

say gasoline petroleum or or coal Coal

now they won't allow us to use right as

you know in cop meeting in Dubai that

just ended a day ago they just

physically declared themselves that we

should stop using fossil fuel basically

petroleum natural gas and even Co I mean

these people are insane now really

insane I think they're going to harm

more people with their own illusion plus

I always remember these are people who

actually don't represent the majority

since when that this put up to workot

it's always about this minority the

tyranny of the few always robbing the

whole census the good sensus of the good

people this is part of the reason why as

a scientist I also speak out feel I mean

not afraid of anything except for just

telling the truth and I'm glad to have

this opportunity to say such thing in in

Jos show so I mean if we haven't been

told the truth about where hydrocarbons

come from and we haven't I mean I've

never met a single person in my life who

said wait a second they're not all

fossil fuels then we keep hearing

there's a scientific consensus on

climate change every scientist believes

the same thing about it believes Al Gore

and John KY maybe that's not true either

oh then I can tell you please thank you

for asking that question taka I've been

working on this subject of CO2 causing

climate change or what other fact fa s

we can ask that cause climate to change

for close to As Long As since my post

doctoral year 1991 right so it's about

32 31 years 32 years and on this

question I think we have a very

definitive answer what we know now is

CO2 ain't going to cost nothing it's not

going to change much of the climatic

system which mean it won't change the

speed of the hurricane it won't change

the how fast or how frequent Donado form

it won't it won't even actually make

make any difference to the polar bear

population it's all conservation issue

right on polar bear it won't even cost

how much fish you don't catch or catch

you know it won't even cause what they

call Oceanic it won't even cause this

problem that they claim it's all

artificial everything they do it's all

Dream from their model and the tyranny

of the few again that those few people

just dream up this scary story that is

just a through and then when you come

down to the most responsible group for

this kind of bad stuff I I I was

reminded by my colleague Dr Ronan

Connelly and Michael Connelly my two

coworker with me on my group is to say

that since you know since I work so

carefully and I have about more than a

100 scientists last three years alone

working with me so I don't speak on

behalf of them I speak on behalf of

myself my view is that the un ipcc

united nation intergovernmental panel on

climate change is one of the primary

problem which mean they have been

misleading people they've been using

authority of science which is not true

right it's all governmental hackers

basically right people like John KY who

I guess can barely take a a proper

physics class who keep claiming that

greenhouse effect is so simple right and

then uh he refused to explain how does

it work right I mean he did all of that

that is very terrible that really

embarrassing to America he did that in

Bali in Indonesia several years back

that is just so embarrassed do you think

he can explain how it works

I don't think so even El Gore who

claimed to be know something about

science I challenge El Gore I I did some

of that to with in his face actually I

have I was lucky enough to be in one of

those Wall Street Journal Eco conference

and I was giving you know setting up

with all the UC Santa Barbara Student

please make sure when the question come

out give me the mic I was making friends

with them the night before I explain now

my details of my work so I I got the mic

and ask question about El God because

one of the primary sad thing that they

refuse to recognize that I know you know

that in in even great School uh Sciences

CO2 is a gas of life it when you have

more CO2 the plant kingdom the whole

ecology even the oceans going to have

more basically ability more fishes More

Everything more life more life

essentially that's why it's called gas

of life and these people want to

demonize it as some gas that can cause

global warming can cause hurricane to

run faster or weaker I don't know what

they want to have more rain more

droughts and all these other nonsense

that they claim all of that it's just

insult that's the problem by the way

this is how serious I am I check

everything they say I check as a

scientist you cannot just dismiss them

you cannot laugh at them you cannot you

know chy them you cannot just make joke

of them you check everything so as a

very serious scientist and I published

scientific paper refuting all of this

arguments scientific papers maybe mean

nothing to the average people but it's

really important it's like a document

that you have to document and then put

out the proper scientific arguments

about what is right what is wrong so

that's what we have been doing at at my

particular Center called series-

sign.com so anybody who wants more

information about this please go to the

website right and study what we do there

because we are the one that is truly

independent from any funding agency any

money that you could possibly give me

like like Bill Gates please don't give

me money thank you and all El go please

don't give me money or don't give me any

money if you tell me what to do you know

even some of your money I might not want

it but the point is that I want to be

independent just like you in the media I

want to be Fearless I just set my own

agenda you don't tell me what to

research either I research what I want

to research so we've been researching on

many many topics so on the climate

change issue I'm fully convinced after

all these years even though we may not

know exactly what is causing climate

change we suspect it's the sun we have a

lot of evidence to show that it's

probably the sun very high percentage

you know like I would say 90% were sure

but not 100% but we know carbon dioxide

is not the gas it's not the what you

call the like your thermometer in your

room can adjust up and down that you can

set the temperature to be whatever level

you want it first of all they can never

tell us what temperature do they want it

at what is the temperature you want to

the global temperature El go has not

been able to answer that John KY has not

been able to answer that because we know

the temperature from the colders in

Siberia to the desert in Sahara I mean

these are huge at least 100 degree or

more kind of differences yes I mean who

are you to tell me which temperature is

the correct temperature where you guys

are talking like that they are talking

as if they are pseudo God they God

themselves I mean these people are so

ambitious that in some sense I think we

have to keep the ambition down a little

bit I mean these people are not

contented just like what you put out

there if you you cannot be ambitious

when you're contented but these people

are so out of their mind in some sense

that I think it's misleading and

somebody had to speak out against them I

think you are one of those who

consistently point out their hypocrisy

right and I really find that the whole

problem of this global warming is a

complete nothing which mean we should do

nothing about it just go on and live

life and adapt to it right so what I

here's of course I agree completely but

what here's what I don't understand

global temperatures have dramatically

fluctuated within yes the period that

humans left records I mean not that long

ago I mean there are cities underwater

because sea levels have risen within

recorded history mhm the signs of the

Glaciers are all around us yes so that

was all before the internal combustion

engine how do they explain that this is

this is the problem they they at

admitted a lot of them admitted they

willingly admitted you can read all you

can't deny it I mean we had glaciers

they melted forc to confess I mean these

are the confession time is the sun

actually that does a lot of this the

glacial like like the spirit called

little ice age from about 1300 to 1900

you know very cold and then there's a

medable warm period from 880 to about

1200 you know it was warm I mean you can

grow wine in England right and now you

cannot grow wine right things like that

I mean Greenland was green back then but

now it's full of glaciers ice is coming

in so what are you talking about exactly

and it was the sun actually the sun fit

quite well as far as we know in terms of

deduct deducing the information of how

does the Sun how how bright was it how

dim was it basically just like that just

the amount of light coming out from the

Sun very tiny percentage by the way very

small it's on the order of less than a

percent but it's more than enough

because there's another effect that is

very very important is basically because

the Sun the Earth is forced to go around

the Sun and then the orbit change ever

so slightly because of perturbation from

all the other planets yes you know

Jupiter Saturn and even Venus and Mars

they actually controlling what we do and

the moon of s is very important but that

other factors the orbits plus the

changes of the Sun by itself which mean

how bright how how dim it is these two

factors can explain just about

everything that we know

all the data that I have actually so

I've been start this is why I was so

fascinated in in studying this issue I

spent my whole life actually studying

this nothing but doing just this and the

more I understand the more I think that

wow it's just a gap to be fill in we

have too much information that and then

these people come along say that CO2 is

causing everything I check I check oh

maybe they're right I check as a

scientist I have to check them but then

it's not even close I mean these people

are talking about things think that is I

mean you there's a famous phrase by a

very famous uh Wisconsin meteorologist

his name is Professor red Bryson he's

one of the father of climatology really

he just say that you go out and then you

could might as well if you think CO2 is

so you might as well spit into the end

and see what happened to the airflow he

was just basically saying that CO2 is

nothing cannot cause the climate to

change or or anything it doesn't change

anything actually it's the sun why why

you think the most important things that

you should talk about they never talk

about that they always want to average

the data the most important thing they

should talk about you know what it's a

season every no two winter are the same

no two summers are the same and they

never explain it's actually the orbits

with the sun changing it ever so

slightly I am not talking I have

published papers papers and papers and

papers like that on all this to show and

document why and how that's what the fun

part of doing science is not only know

chitchatting hand waving like crazy you

have to be even though I made it look

like one now but I always very calm when

you write down you know like my every

time I have to write a paper I always

tell my wife please don't disturb me for

a few days I'll be back things like that

of course working at home but this is

I'll be

back so is there any way to predict what

climate change will be based on actually

you can because of the orbit the only

thing we don't know is how to predict

the sun changes by itself because the

magnetism you know just the magnetic

field on the sun is too complicated the

sun is the magnetized B right it's a gas

hot gas it's about you know the the

magnetic field is so strong it's 10,000

times stronger than the earth the earth

is also a magnet a bar magnet basically

yes it's one G we have 10,000 gal at

least on the Sun so it's a very

different property and it works very

differently because it HED by basically

a thermonuclear reaction inside the Sun

so it created all kinds of hot gas

behavior that's very difficult to to try

to master or even to model it using

mathematical equation actually it's much

easier to study the Earth and to do the

Sun so that's part of the problem in in

scientific task the physics task the

very difficult but then we learn a lot

we learn a lot through just watching the

sun I mean Galileo gal right he pointed

his telescope he he he smart enough

first he point to the Jupiter the moon

right Jupiter then he saw the moon right

he saw four moons around it and then he

smart that he go the next day to watch

it again he watched and then he say

started to move by the famous story of

Galileo galile with talk about it

someday when he wrote that down

initially it was in Italian when he

realized he discovered something so

unique he change the language to Latin

the next day yeah you know I got it man

the good one you know so he start

writing in Latin precise language okay

but anyway uh for the sun it's really so

complicated that actually I've been

studying this actually as long as you

know me I mean I studied this for so

long we know a lot I even wrote a

popular book actually to try to explain

why that during a period of the Sunspot

so Galileo Galilea start in 169 1610 or

so so we have about now

43 years of data but there's a period

that deep inside the little ice AG 1645

to 1715 is called the M minimum because

during that period the Sunspot almost

all disappear especially in the northern

hamsphere it Disappear Completely nobody

know why and that's why the French

astronomer famous people like cini the

one that the cini spacecraft he was

observing at that time he's say man this

Galo guy must be on either drinking too

much or lying or things like that he

said there's a lot of sunspot but we

observe at this time we didn't see

nothing what's wrong but it is an actual

phenomenon right my my friend my good

friend which is the number one world

Sunsport historian he just wrote email

to me Douglas Hoy he actually was the

master of this collecting all the

Sunspot data going going back to all the

major libraries you know from Galileo

first point all the way to present Point

basically found that this phenomenon is

true because during that period the

Sunspot was not there not because nobody

was watching there was at least observed

80% of the time during the 70 years you

see it's so unique that period but now

we're beginning to try to learn what

happened there so during that period we

really think that the sun was so much

Demmer was substantially deer this is

why you have this little ice AG

phenomenon all the tames River will

froze you know we have the tames river

in England well known and then all the

ice skating thing you know the in

Holland all the all the different

culture and then these are all real

actual phenomenon and then this day they

trying to say that maybe l i AG is not

little ice AG they even try to change

that in scientific field actually so

this was very very puzzling for me why

would they try and change that oh I

don't know because they want to say that

CO2 is controlling everything they kind

of want to have CO2 as the prime driver

of everything this is part of the

problem that I find well that's not

science that's lying ah it's bad it's

bad in science this is why I in science

now I rather say this thing outright I

want I rather have question that cannot

be answered than answer that cannot be

questioned because these people just

offering you the answer and then you

should just shut up like you say don't

ask any question don't criticize don't

even bother to think just accept what we

say I mean you may have known that

actually if you want to get get there I

can talk about this because this is

rather famous because the other person

is still around he's the one who's

shouting up and down this these two last

two days to say that oh we must start

fil field GOP is so evil we must stop

all of them because we are the GOP are

the evil uh political bodies in America

that causes all this fossil fuel to be

we are using fossil fuel and all that

his name is Professor Michael man he's

at University of Pennsylvania yes he

created a paper we call it the hockey

stick you know the stick paper the

hockey shtick he basically say that the

temperature history first of all the

true temperature history looked like

this that it was very warm from 800 ad

let's say warm warm and then it cools

down about 1300 started to go down cool

and then since about 1900 Century it

started to warm back up way way before

CO2 is important okay that's another

puzzle that they never want to explain

that look like this that's the real

story Michael man came along said that

well he used ma mathematical algorithm

okay you can use fancy words but believe

me it's just mathematical algorithm that

he produced a stick for one 880 to about

1980 is all flat because it changed it

changed very tiny amount so small that

actually it doesn't mean anything Point

1.2 degre celsus so small it doesn't

mean the one that I talk about that

change is one degree at least you know

to five six times bigger than what he

say and then he just say is like this

and then it oneart because like the

blade which is the one warming because

of rising carbon dioxide but he forgot

to explain to you this this warming of

the temperature started way before even

the human part of the atmospheric carbon

dioxide could be anything meaningful

this is part of the problem it's all

been crazy from day one when I when this

thing was published in uh 1999 I was the

first few guy who raised a hand at the

back of the class and say excuse me

Professor man he used to be my friend by

the way now he will never answer me he

used to exchange email with me because

you know we more or less share the same

passion want to understand thing now he

just say that his story his story is the

only one that is correct but it's not

bear out by any data that we know that's

the problem it's all mathematical

products this is how scary the whole

world can be and United Nation the ipcc

group that I mentioned promoted his work

turning into a major hero because he has

solved one of this old puzzle problem

that climatologist over malania has been

trying to solve since the day of the

Greeks to try to understand how climate

change and this guy come along say that

it look like this only CO2 does it and

that's a

problem so I mean it just insult what

your I mean some of this is very complex

but in the way you're describing and if

he's saying the warming period began

before there was a meaningful addition

of CO2 into the atmosphere caused by

humans even I can understand that yes

that's that's the truth so I would

assume that lots of scientists who do

this for a living might be asking the

same question why don't they speak up

this is the problem the whole problem

inside this day is related to funding

how science is funded that natural that

philosophy I wish to not get too much

into it this is part of the reason why I

want to be totally independent I get out

of this whole system right but it's how

science is is about fundings even if you

don't get money directly it will

influence The Graduate students and on

and on and so forth all these other

related effects you know and many people

are afraid to speak out but I tell you

if you really put all the scientist to a

honest kind of polling if you science

but science is not about polling too all

it takes is one to be correct yes that's

the problem right Einstein used to when

he formulated the famous general

relativity or special relativity

actually that was criticized that that

basically talk talk about speed of light

is constant so time and space are

relative yes right time can be dilated

space is also slightly different because

his speed of light is constant special

reality is based on that concept then

100 of this Berlin academicians try to

wrote a pamplet say that Einstein is

wrong but never offer why what is the

details that is wrong and then Einstein

indeed answer like

this why would you need 100 you know if

I were to be wrong one would suffice I

mean that's a that's the theme of the

science science is so bad because it's

so totally upside down inside out covid

is another case you know so let's stick

to climate stuff people are afraid to

speak out I don't know why actually I

was young I have to worry about my three

kids where they eat and all that stuff

you know buet all the time just

kidding the greatest American invention

all you can eat this is truly

entrepreneur by the way anyway we have

enough food no problem that's why food I

don't think is also a problem in this

world even material resources right all

you think is have to think like Julian

Simon type you know we can gener and

everything the only problem we left is

lack of imagination narrow-mindedness

and all this anti-america sentiment put

it this way America is among the best

Hope For Humanity you know to put

forward we have the foundation document

the Constitution for God's sake that is

the most beautiful things that we could

ever imagine and why don't we use it

properly right people just trashing on

it every day right anyway I

digress anyway so yes I I think science

is a problem problem now because of

funding structure people won't speak out

I don't know why I think it's natural

for people to be afraid but you can only

be afraid for so long for me I was

frustrated because I was not afraid ever

since I was in sign because I'm in s

because I love science this is why from

my own perspective I just very sad to

see that science is being trampled by

all these other non-science forces you

know that's why when I look at covid

also I cannot stand by say nothing on

covid-19 there's so many wrong with it

that's why I want to preach advertise

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all of this doesn't work the lockdown

doesn't work and what are we doing this

now they're trying to scare with another

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newspaper this morning I just got one

newspaper from my sister who have to

start oh they start masking up in

Malaysia now because cases start to

increase the usual story I laugh in a

serious way because I see this is

another one of those attempt again to

try to scare people so I did digress now

science is just so complicated now that

every aspect of the science that I look

at I've become very unhappy science is

no longer able to do where science lead

this is the theme of my series- sign.com

we with few only colleagues I don't have

enough funding I just hope to get as

many donation by the way donate but

don't tell us anything do anything trust

us because we are decent scientists you

can look at our publication record that

we are able to produce the most

interesting and pure work like ipcc they

have to reply to us two years ago we

public a very important paper one of my

journalist friend a colleague wrote a

paper newspaper article and then he go

and ask ipcc why you guys not cting this

paper they use the excuse to say that oh

these people published late we have a

DAT line here Red Line oh if you don't

publish before some date like 2021 okay

like January or 2021 then we won't

include your work so we publish in

August so they wouldn't include my work

but they forgot to say that they are

they claim themselves they Proclaim un

ipcc Proclaim them to be the best of the

scientific World produce the most

updated and all that but immediately

their report came out they already

outdated because they haven't included

my work which is the most comprehensive

review of how the Sun affect the climate

that's the work we did so this this year

just two months ago we published two

more paper convincingly

show that even the thermometer data that

they show you is is not what it is it's

actually not measuring climate it's

measuring Urban heat island changes

something that I think everybody can

understand if you go to the inner part

of the big city like TC is one of the

best example I have graph to show that

you go there inner city is much warmer

than outside because of concrete

retaining all the Heat or you change all

the surfaces of the you know the surface

become impervious which me there's no

breathing no water going in and out

things like that and it's what we show

is that it's not a phenomenon just on

local sense you average over this you

can see the effect all over the Northern

Hemisphere this is very powerful new

work that we we SP so concrete and

asphalt raise the temperatures more than

CO2 and that's what they're measuring

and then they tell you this is global

temperature and then we provide an

alternative we say why don't we go look

at rural station that is available and

guess what our result found completely

different story from from the picture

The Narrative that's coming out from

this data set thermometer data that show

that combine urban and rural okay we

show rural only we can tell you that you

can immediately offer a different answer

for example it's the Sun that does it

that does it we show that but we don't

know that it's the answer we just simply

show you that the ipcc and all these

so-called scientists from NASA Noah and

all of them are not doing their due

diligence they are putting you very bad

quality data product not only that they

hide it some of them is so difficult to

get the data okay we but it should never

be difficult to get data I'm sorry taka

this is how the problem in science now

is so many serious but I thought

transparency of data was science I was

hoping I always believe in that that's

why everything that we publish is there

because we got it from somewhere here's

the data use it check us if we're wrong

tell us we're wrong that is one thing

that I can always promise you I'm not

here to try to gain favor or anything if

I'm wrong and I don't know I tell you I

don't know taka a lot of this thing I

really under a lot of careful

consideration really a lot of deep

meditation thinking about this topic

what I think is very problematic I'm so

glad to have this opportunity to go this

far to to be able to talk for this long

now is that really the ipcc product is

actually substandard of course they have

a different mandate their their mandate

is political right to provide policy we

understand that but how many people

really understand that pure science

doesn't support anything they say I mean

in the beginning of this cop 28 meeting

the chairman of this guy from UAE United

Arabs Emirates the chairman I don't know

his name suan Al jab ja or something he

was saying that there's no scientific

reasoning to say that we should face out

force of he's right but then he back off

because of all

this everybody is hurt mentality

everybody doing the Mad thing everybody

science is not about that they all agree

now they all agree to face out right for

some kind of agreement you know that

every body decare that they're going to

do that that they're going to face off I

don't even know how actually why why are

you doing this and then one of the claim

is that they're going to Triple the

amount of solar and wind power that is a

sad story you know of the amount that we

spend that we can document some three

3.6 trillion dollar they spent almost $2

trillion on solar and wind power over

the last I don't know 5 10 years or so

and then what they did is that spend

more of the money two trillion on solar

and wind and solar wind can only account

for only 3% of the world power 85% from

fossil fuel as you can see Hydro power

and nuclear nuclear is another puzzle I

check with all my Nuclear expert friend

that been working for years on nuclear

power nuclear power is one of the

saddest story I believe that we actually

have almost the solution in hand not not

the not the fusion of course it's the

you know the the fast reactor all the

good generation of the of nuclear power

peaceful use of that won't even generate

nuclear weapon we can do all of that

technology the only thing barrier is red

tapes environmentally scar of radiation

all these other problem we almost have

all of that in in hand the power can

last one estimate shows that if we were

to use it at the demand of that by 2050

we can have enough power for 2,700 years

that's far more than any other the

fossil fuel can promise and then and

we're now still not doing it we not

doing America is so far behind now we

are we we just make one in Georgia one

of the nuclear PL that so overcosted

because of all the red tape that it's so

embarrassing there are numbers I mean it

costing a thousand or 2,000 time even

more than what Korea and you know even

Korea now is is a major guy who make

this nuclear power plant for for

different any country who wants to do it

right I mean Korea yeah India they are

making a much cheaper cost and the the

design French designs are the best right

French they all doing that and we're not

doing it China of course left and right

doing that but we're not doing anything

all we trying to tell you that we got to

shutter fossil fuel increase solar and

wind are you Jo joking even three times

more will be

9% I don't know can you turn on your

your your light only 9% of them you

should shut all this light off now

you're overusing it and it destroys the

the natural environment exactly wind

farms this is a kind of a very bad

incentive that they don't realize it's

about this kind of people that so out of

their mind in my view that they really

should be cautious somebody should just

ping on their head guys don't don't

don't keep saying those things you

better think twice or consult somebody

that knows something that is honest you

know you spent 31 years at Harvard would

you be able to say this out loud at

Harvard he actually back then I also

didn't care but uh most of the time I

get call into the director's office this

and that they always trying to tell oh

why are you saying that why are you

saying this I say well I'm a scientist I

should say whatever I want to say not

only that the problem in when I was at

Harvard part of the reason I quit as I

try to explain is about JB requirement

but another one is a bit of

censorship I can only do certain thing I

cannot do certain thing like I I would

never be able to write paper on covid-19

I would never be able to work work uh on

let's say environmental air pollution

issues you know like you know So-Cal nox

and socks and all this other thing or

Mercury and things like that I have a

lot I study a lot on those issue because

I personally are concerned so I dig into

the literature one thing after another

basically because I sleep very little so

I really do a lot of thing I flip every

Rock Pebbles anything you want so I

study a lot I produce a result that is

good enough that can be making a lot of

scientific but I never published them

because they simply won't allow they

wouldn't allow you yes it's about a

matter of allowing because they say it

doesn't fit the theme of the center for

astrophysics so I don't want to talk

back about the institution but it is the

finest astrophysics institution in the

world in terms of instrument building in

terms of Technology we can produce the

best you know you often look at the the

X-ray picture of the sun those are from

very fine camera that we build that with

multic coding layers because the x-ray

they they come in very slowly and then

they they're going to diffuse come out

but we make very fine way to to catch

them so they can come up so the image

are crystal clear you can see all the

structure on the sun it's made by my

Center they they are they're good

scientists except that when it come down

to a larger picture of science sh don't

say this don't say that this and that

and then all of that this is why even at

Harvard I quit taking money from NASA

NSF all these other place in 2004

because I beginning to think that

science being so unaccountable funded by

taxpayer that all these people it's so

unconscionable so I personally chose

that that is nobody to blame but myself

but I chose to take only from Foundation

who are willing to give me money right

so I wrote those kind of proposal and

then got to go through the director's

office this and that right I have a very

very happy and fruitful career everybody

can look up my publication list is very

long and not only that it's not the

number that counts it's the quality of

the paper I always want to remind people

I don't like talking how many thousands

of paper you write this and that it's

not important which paper that is really

important for certain issues that's

important that you if you are able to

show that that's good that's what I mean

all my papers are basically under a lot

of this serious serious thinking and

serious evaluation checking and

rejecting before I would care to write

about anything because you don't want to

write anything that's wrong tomorrow you

want something that can write but

science is basically garbage can now

these scientific papers I categorically

would even make this statement I would

make the statement that about 80 to 90%

of the paper published in so-call

climate science today should not be

published

but everybody have NSF Grant everybody

have all this grant you see how the

inflation goes you know just like the

other day you hear that y University you

know large part of it large most of the

student on on 2022 or something all got

great a great you know great a they

diluted the great but Harvey Rich assur

me that in medical sciences and heart

Sciences jav rich is the professor at AO

University he teach in the medical

school so he say no not true so that

that he tried to assure me he has

quality maybe not in his class but how

not in any other class right anyway so I

want to ask this is a kind of last topic

which is not related to this but we

talked about it off the air and I think

it's really interesting you were telling

me that you see God or evidence of God

in

math well can you explain what you were

saying or maybe I misread what you were

saying no no no no you did not I mean I

I have been closer and closer to God in

the sense that because it takes me a

long time I'm rather rebellious you know

I have to say damn it God you got to

prove it to me show it to me buddy just

kidding I'm sorry to anybody no off but

I really say it in that way you know you

talk to yourself in sense but in many

many moments in history of physics or

mathematics things come out you see

mathematics you know is this very pure

world that it seems to have no

connection to real world physics that's

right it's true it's complex number it's

one of them it's but it appear in

quantum mechanics right it's so

beautiful but one of the things that

sometime you see in equation is so

amazing when you formulate maybe it's

not right maybe it's this you know you

doubt yourself but one of the most

beautiful equation was the one that

derived by Paul direct is a professor at

Cambridge University but he retired in

Florida by the way he he died in Florida

talahasse uh I mean it's a refuge for

him because he doesn't like to talk he

will sit there for five days don't talk

one day all of a sudden he talk but

anyway he formulated he's a beautiful

man he you know part right he formulated

this relativistic equation of for

electrons but in one of the equation the

solution come out to be a negative signs

not only that there's a square root

involved so there strange Behavior

there's negative sign in but it has to

has the exact property like an electron

and all that stuff how come everybody

say you're crazy you're stupid this and

that right he he's not even way he

didn't no sweat buddy he just say I am

right many years later few years later

it is shown in ctech by Carl Anderson to

show there's actually such a thing

called positron you know the opposite

the brothers of electron there such a

thing and and then if you ask yourself

how is it

possible right that's something this

just out of out of nowhere where does

this thing come from and then in

mathematical Sciences there's a lot of

things like this like GE geometry

there's a even more famous thing about

in Geometry is called cabi Yao manao

that related to string

theory this thing was basically a

revisit of Einstein general relativity

equation asking itself whether is it

possible to have close curvature in

SpaceTime that you actually don't

require even gravity to be there and

they show that cabi was trying to prove

this Yao Shong Yao is one of the great

mathematician right he's at Harvard but

he retired now he go to China right he

was the one who tried to disprove this

thing but he turns out to be true that

is true that you can have close

curvature in SpaceTime that without

gravity even so that added even more

rich in this world that from mathematics

to real world we already have enough

hard time understanding Einstein this

guy added even more and his Discovery

was in the 70s and things like that you

know so there's so many example and

incident like this just have to tell you

that you have to bow down you have to

occasionally take a deep breath you know

there may be some ever presence of this

forces this forces that allow us to

illuminate our life and I tell you God

has given us this all this light that

tell us that we have to follow the light

and do the best we can rather than every

day devouring planet Earth saying that

we are the Satan we are the evil people

you know these people are constantly

trying to you know make all of us a

lesser human being I would never allow

them anyway so good luck you know for

those people like ELO and all that who

think that they're high and mighty right

and trying to always always lecture us

on on got to cut down on fossil field

because we're going to hurt the planet

Earth I say God do you ever think twice

how who are you to to think that you can

actually try to save the planet Earth

even because they always use the word

I'm trying to save the planet Earth I

don't know who gives them the right to

save the planet Earth same with this

experiment that they're trying to do by

the way the experiment to say that we

must cut down CO2 emission I told you

CO2 is good for you know for life

because I asked elol indeed when I asked

elol the question in UC Santa Barra is

what is that CO2 is gas of Life who give

you the audacity to cut down this then

aren't you are you going to be

responsible for the ecological and

Humanity they in all this crisis even we

know Rising CO2 affect even plants you

know especially food production right

maybe not exact number we know but it

does positively right we have technology

to help it better seed better all this

fertilization all this other thing but

who give them the idea to do that to cut

down because it's generally going to be

good for life because you have to push

them around because nobody should give

them the authority so far I don't think

anyone can answer that question question

for me so I tell them to please bow down

to God really answer to that question

first before you do anything else

because it's ridiculous for them to keep

to claim that they have the upper moral

and ethical High Ground to try to

prescribe everybody to live in certain

condition that they choose but they

themselves don't follow the rules they

tell us to take a bus El go always tell

he even tell people to take a bus ELO my

God I say ELO you take a bus from

Tennessee to massachusett I'll be

waiting for you down there please I mean

this guy is just out of the out of the

out of this world man I'm sorry ELO but

you can still call me can you um Willy

soon thank you but before you go last

thing for for viewers who want to know

more about what you do can you say once

again where they can yes read it please

uh I hope that uh I don't disappoint

anyone but please come to series

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City and towns and all that you know

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net okay and I talked to your friend

Vince Allison from Maryland I also call

him before I came he's a one of the good

guy right yeah amazing Wily soon that

was the most interesting conversation

I've heard in a long time oh thank you

for your time I appreciate it thank you

thanks free speech is bigger than any

one person or any one organization

societies are defined by what they will

not permit what we're watching is the

total inversion of

virtue