What Is Going On With The Helldivers 2 Community...
Summary
TLDRThe script discusses issues arising in the Hell Divers 2 community around high-level players who use farming methods to quickly gain experience yet lack fundamental gameplay knowledge and teamwork skills. It argues that communication and cooperation are most vital and warns against spreading toxicity or forcing meta builds, saying players should focus on enjoying themselves without ruining others' fun. The script urges protecting team play incentives and maintaining community solidarity to fully tap into the game's long-term potential through upcoming content.
Takeaways
- 😡 There are high level players who don't understand basic gameplay elements like shared resources or how to perform objectives
- 😮 Many players are farming the defend missions to level up quickly but aren't learning key skills
- 💡Resources like medals, samples and credits are shared across the whole team
- 😠Toxic behavior like unjustly kicking lower level players needs to stop
- 👍Using the meta is fine if you like it, not using the meta is also fine
- 🤝Team play and communication are the most important elements, more so than builds
- 😎Some players think they are invincible with meta builds and go off on their own
- 🥳The game is meant to be fun, play how you want but don't ruin it for others
- ⚠️We could wear each other down and end up with a fractured community if toxicity spreads
- 🙂With new content down the line, we can enjoy the game together if the community stays positive
Q & A
What mission are players farming to quickly level up?
-Players are farming a defend mission on the automaton front that can be cheesed to complete in 2-3 minutes. It yields a lot of XP and requisition rewards.
Why does the author say some high level players have a 'delusion of grandeur'?
-Because they have farmed XP and levels through an easy mission, but don't understand core gameplay mechanics needed for objective based missions.
What is the key thing many players don't realize about resources?
-That resources like medals, samples, and super credits are shared across the entire team, not per player.
What does the author say is most important for completing objectives?
-Team play and communication are the single most important things for completing objective based missions.
Should all players use the meta builds?
-No, players should use builds they are comfortable with. Forcing others to use the meta can be toxic behavior.
What are some ideas to encourage team play?
-Introducing buffs for sticking together as a team, following orders, and actively pinging objectives.
What does the author say players ultimately want from the game?
-The author says players just want to have fun, whether that's playing the meta or casual play.
What is the concern about the community long term?
-That toxicity and infighting could wear the community down over time if players don't respect each other.
What types of new content could come to the game?
-Potentially new vehicles, weapons, strategems, and enemy factions.
What is the main message to players?
-Don't ruin the game for each other - have fun, enjoy it, and remember the fundamentals.
Outlines
🎥 Summary of Reddit Post Criticizing Hell Divers Streamers
The paragraph summarizes a Reddit post that criticizes Hell Divers streamers for negatively impacting the player base. It states that many high level players who farmed XP don't understand basic gameplay mechanics when playing objective missions. The writer agrees this is an issue stemming from an overinflated ego due to farming levels.
😡 Toxic Behavior and Suggestions for Improvement
The paragraph discusses the toxic behavior of unjustified kicking of players as well as the debate around meta builds. It states communication and teamwork are most important and suggests implementations to incentivize team play. The goal should be enjoying the game together regardless of playstyle.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡farming
💡shared resources
💡meta build
💡team play
💡toxic behavior
💡checks and balances
💡community fracturing
💡having fun
💡future content
💡don't ruin it
Highlights
Many high level players are farming defend missions and don't understand basic gameplay elements
These players have an inflated ego and lack of understanding due to farming defend missions
Many players don't realize resources like medals and samples are shared across the team
There should be protections against unjust kicking of players from squads
Team play and communication are the most important elements, more than builds and metas
Players shouldn't push others towards or away from using the meta
The meta causes some players to play recklessly thinking they are invincible
The game could introduce systems to encourage team play
People just want to have fun however they prefer - meta or casual
Don't spread toxicity or ruin the game for others
The community was great early on despite issues
With new content this game could grow immensely
As a community we need to avoid fracturing things
Hell Divers 2 is an awesome game with major issues now fixed
Have fun, enjoy the game, don't ruin it for each other
Transcripts
hey there friends what's going on it's
Kodiak here back for another unscripted
video about hell divers 2 I saw this
post on Reddit the other day and I
thought it'd be a good topic for us to
dive into because it's something that
I've noticed over the last couple of
days playing quick plays and jumping
into random squads so check this out
this was by complain on the internet and
the title is I've never seen streamers
do so much damage to a player base and
it's a rant and he basically goes on to
say the amount of level 30 plus defend
Mission Farmers that don't understand
basic gameplay elements such as shared
resources enemy types and how to defeat
them or how to perform objective tasks
is staggering it's honestly hard to wrap
my brain around some of the things I'm
witnessing on higher
difficulties I think that's exactly what
I've been experiencing and again I'm I'm
a pretty decent player I've cleared
sevens I've cleared eights I've tried to
do a nine uh haven't gotten through that
yet so I'm on the I guess you could say
the upper end of the skills does that
mean I'm the best hell diver in the
world of course not no obviously not but
let's break down what he's saying a lot
of people right now if you know this
great if you don't here's some Intel a
lot of people right now are farming one
type of mission it's one of the defend
missions on the automaton front that
will easily let you cheese it and
complete the mission in like 2 3 minutes
all you need to do is drop a ton of
mortars on like the central platform and
it will kill the I think it's 160 170
enemies required in about 2 3 minutes
you can extract and then you get a ton
of XP and requisition it's great if
that's what you want to do you want to
do that mission 30 40 50 times and level
up to you know the current cap of 50
that's great but that doesn't mean
you're an expert at Hell divers and I
think that's the essence of the problem
at the core of the issue because if you
leave that and you're level 35 and you
think that you're really good at Hell
divers 2o that is kind of a delusion of
grandeur right the entire game hell
divers 2 is built around objective based
missions so when people finally get into
those missions they don't know what
they're doing their ego is inflated by
their level thanks to that farm so
they're missing basic principles and the
one that is truly staggering is that
they don't understand there is a wide
swath of people that don't understand
that resources are shared medals samples
super credits those are shared Guys
across your entire team so if you didn't
know that now you do that's great if you
did know that we need to keep saying
that nice and Loud because one of the
major issues is that leaders of groups
are kicking players because they assume
they think that these folks are stealing
medals super credits and samples which
is absolutely not the case and that's
the type of toxic Behavior we do not
need in the hell divers 2 community in
my opinion there needs to be some sort
of voting system protection for all
types of players that you know are on
the receiving end of an unjustly you
know kick that shouldn't be happening
the same could be said on the kicking
side maybe you're in a squad with two or
three abusive players there needs to be
some checks and balances for both sides
both parties in that now the second part
of that argument is talking about folks
like myself I'm not going to deny that
we're not a channel that talks about
metas and things like that but the the
post that the original rant talks about
how folks are just going with the meta
build and it's ruining team play and I
agree and disagree with that to an
extent team play and communication are
the single most important thing about
this game any sort of objective based
hell divers 2 mission requires those two
things team play communication are your
weapons and strategems important yes are
they the most important thing not really
the current meta which is really good
right now like Rail Gun Supply pack or
energy backpack like those are all
really good but they're not foolproof
and just because it's good doesn't mean
everybody needs to use it so this is one
of those weird balancing things if
you're using the meta and you like The
Meta great good for you if you're not
using the meta and you don't want to use
the meta that's also fine and players
shouldn't be pushing each other one way
or the other to use those things you
can't chastise somebody for using the
meta if they like using the meta and
vice versa you can't chastise the player
that's not using the meta because you
think they should be using the meta that
is the kind of sticky acidic toxic thing
that can deteriorate a community over
time we don't need that so at the end of
the day it's really about team play it's
about communication using your builds to
the best of their advantage one of the
things that the meta is a cause of is
players going off thinking they're
Invincible oh I'm running the meta build
I can destroy everything I can do
everything by myself there are some
players that can do that but there are a
vast majority of players that cannot do
that so you have to stick together and I
actually talked about this in another
video but basically what I was getting
at was if the game introduced some sort
of system to enhance the team play
elements you know buffing the team if
you stick together buffing the team if
you are actively pinging on the map and
following orders that would further
reinforce those team you know team
motivations the things that would get
you to stay with your teammates stay
with your squadmates and play as a team
meta or not look bottom line everyone
just wants to have fun playing this game
fun for you might be playing The Meta
and completing hell Dives at level 9 fun
for you might also mean logging in with
two buddies random filling those other
two slots and you know puts in around on
a four or five the game doesn't take
itself seriously so we don't have to
take the game seriously either and if
you choose to take it seriously that's
fine as long as you understand the
fundamentals and you're not spreading
that toxicity to the rest of the
community let's not lose sight of the
potential this game has how solid this
community was during the first two weeks
even through all those issues and how
great it could be long term if we think
about what could come to Hell divers 2
next Vehicles new weapons new strategems
new enemy factions we can enjoy all
those things together and have a great
time with it or we could start chipping
away at the edges wear each other down
and eventually we have a fractured
Community or a smaller Community we
don't need any of that hell divers 2 is
an awesome game I'm super excited that a
lot of the major issues have been fixed
server caps are well over 700k right now
this game could grow immensely could
continue to be an amazing game with new
content we just need to remember as a
community as a gamer myself not talking
to you as a content creator just talking
about somebody who logs into hell divers
2 every night and plays this game don't
ruin it for each other it's the bottom
line have fun enjoy the game as always
my name is Kodiak and from everyone here
at Legacy gaming thanks for watching
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