Primobolan Dosing Protocols | Low Vs. High Dosages | Cosmetic Appeal | How Primo Feels
Summary
TLDRCoach Steve discusses Primobolan (Primo) dosing and protocols in the context of bodybuilding and hormone replacement therapy. He emphasizes a moderate 1:1 ratio of Primo to testosterone for optimal anabolic effects and minimal agitation, contrasting it with stronger androgens like Trenbolone. The video also covers how Primo affects mood and the importance of body fat levels for cosmetic benefits. Coach Steve provides practical advice on combining Primo with other compounds like Anavar and Winstrol, considering factors like convenience, cost, and individual response.
Takeaways
- 📢 The speaker introduces the topic of Primobolan (Primo) dosing and protocols in the context of bodybuilding and hormone replacement therapy.
- 🔍 The speaker emphasizes that Primo is a mild compound compared to others like Trenbolone and does not drastically affect mood or hormone balance when used properly.
- 💊 Primo is suggested as a DHT derivative that can be stacked with testosterone for anabolic effects without the intense agitation associated with stronger steroids.
- 🌡️ Agitation from Primo use is described as a subconscious feeling, not as severe as with Trenbolone, and can be mitigated by diet and lifestyle adjustments.
- 💉 The recommended dosing ratio for Primo to testosterone is one-to-one, based on the speaker's experience that equates one milligram of Primo to one milligram of testosterone in terms of anabolic effect.
- ⚖️ The speaker advises against exceeding a weekly Primo dose of 1000 milligrams unless the individual is significantly large, as the cosmetic benefits do not increase with higher doses.
- 💪 Primo is most effective for enhancing muscle appearance when body fat levels are below 10%, and it should be used in conjunction with proper diet and training.
- 🚫 The speaker warns against using Primo for bulking phases or when body fat levels are high, as it will not significantly improve appearance in these conditions.
- 🤔 The speaker suggests that individual responses to Primo can vary, and some may experience increased irritability or mood changes, which are noticeable to others.
- 💰 Financial considerations are discussed, with the speaker noting that higher doses of Primo may not be necessary or cost-effective for most individuals seeking aesthetic improvements.
- 📚 The speaker concludes by promoting his website for further reading on bodybuilding pharmacology and offering personalized advice for those interested in more detailed coaching.
Q & A
What is the main topic discussed in the video script?
-The main topic discussed in the video script is the dosing and protocols of Primobolan, an anabolic steroid, and its effects on the body, including agitation and its comparison with other steroids like Trembolone.
What is the agitation volume knob reference about?
-The agitation volume knob reference is a metaphor used by the speaker to describe the level of agitation one might experience on different anabolic steroids, with Primobolan raising it to about a 12 on a scale from 1 to 100, compared to Trembolone which would be like 120.
What is the recommended starting point for Primobolan dosage according to the speaker?
-The recommended starting point for Primobolan dosage, according to the speaker, is a one-to-one ratio with testosterone, such as 100 milligrams of testosterone and 100 milligrams of Primobolan.
How does the speaker describe the feeling of being on Primobolan?
-The speaker describes the feeling of being on Primobolan as quite mild, causing a bit of agitation but not as severe as with Trembolone or Halotestin. He also mentions that it adds a little bit of extra androgens on top of the testosterone base.
What is the significance of the one-to-one ratio of Primobolan to testosterone mentioned in the script?
-The one-to-one ratio of Primobolan to testosterone is significant because the speaker believes that one milligram of Primobolan provides the same amount of anabolism as one milligram of testosterone, making it a balanced approach to achieve desired effects without excessive agitation.
What is the speaker's view on the use of Primobolan during a cutting phase?
-The speaker suggests that Primobolan can be used during a cutting phase, and it can be run for a substantial amount of time until the end of the cutting phase. He mentions that it can help achieve a clean and defined look when body fat levels are low.
How does the speaker address the issue of agitation caused by Primobolan?
-The speaker addresses the issue of agitation caused by Primobolan by suggesting that it can be mitigated by increasing caloric intake or avoiding triggers like current news, and he also mentions that the level of agitation does not scale with the dose.
What is the speaker's opinion on combining Primobolan with other anabolic steroids?
-The speaker advises against combining Primobolan with too many other anabolic steroids, recommending a maximum of three compounds for a balanced and effective regimen. He also warns against the potential side effects of combining too many androgenic substances.
How does the speaker compare Primobolan to Trembolone in terms of side effects and effectiveness?
-The speaker compares Primobolan to Trembolone by stating that while Trembolone is a more potent and cheaper alternative, Primobolan is superior in terms of side effects, being almost side effect-free except for increased hematocrit levels and some agitation.
What advice does the speaker give regarding the use of Primobolan for cosmetic benefits?
-The speaker advises that Primobolan really shines when used at sub-10% body fat levels, and it is most effective for cosmetic benefits when the user is lean. He also suggests that the dosing should be adjusted based on body fat levels and personal appearance goals.
What are some of the potential side effects mentioned by the speaker for Primobolan?
-The potential side effects mentioned by the speaker for Primobolan include increased hematocrit levels, mild agitation, and possible hair loss due to its DHT derivative nature. However, he also notes that these side effects are generally milder compared to other steroids.
Outlines
💊 Primobolan Experience and Agitation Effects
Coach Steve discusses his personal experience with Primobolan, emphasizing its mild effects compared to other steroids like Trembolone. He notes that Primobolan, being a DHT derivative, can cause a slight increase in agitation but not as severe as other compounds. The coach also mentions that the hormone balance is crucial for minimizing negative side effects and that a reasonable dose of Primobolan can be beneficial during both off-season and cutting phases without causing significant mood swings.
📊 Dosage Protocols for Primobolan and Testosterone
The video segment outlines the dosing protocols for Primobolan, suggesting a one-to-one ratio with testosterone for optimal results. Coach Steve explains that this ratio helps in achieving a balance between anabolism and the potential for agitation. He also provides examples of how to adjust dosages based on individual needs, from hormone replacement therapy to bodybuilding purposes, and touches on the importance of convenience in dosing schedules.
💉 Optimal Primobolan Dosage Based on Body Fat Percentage
Coach Steve highlights the importance of body fat percentage in determining the effectiveness of Primobolan. He explains that lower body fat levels allow Primobolan to have a more pronounced cosmetic effect, and that higher doses may be necessary for individuals with higher body fat to achieve the same results. The coach also discusses the potential need for adjusting testosterone dosages to compensate for the aromatase inhibition effect of Primobolan.
🤔 Considerations for Adding Masteron to a Primobolan and Testosterone Stack
The coach discusses the option of adding Masteron to a Primobolan and testosterone stack for an enhanced cosmetic appearance. He mentions that this combination can be a budget-friendly alternative to increasing Primobolan dosage and provides an example of how to administer these compounds throughout the week. However, he also expresses his personal reservations about using Masteron due to the lack of pharmaceutical-grade options.
💪 Enhancing Physique with Anavar and Other Compounds
Coach Steve talks about the benefits of adding Anavar to a foundation of testosterone and Primobolan for an improved physique. He emphasizes the importance of using a low dose of Anavar for its unique ability to promote collagen synthesis. The coach also discusses other combinations, such as the addition of Winstrol, and provides guidance on when and how to use these compounds effectively.
🚫 Avoiding Overdose and the Superiority of Primobolan Over Trenbolone
In the final paragraph, the coach warns against overdosing on anabolic steroids and asserts the superiority of Primobolan over Trenbolone, especially for those who can afford it. He mentions that while Trenbolone may provide more 'bang for the buck' for budget-conscious individuals, Primobolan offers a better side effect profile. The coach also promotes his website for further resources and personalized coaching services.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Primobolan
💡Aromatase Inhibitor
💡Agitation
💡DHT Derivative
💡Caloric Intake
💡Body Fat Levels
💡Anabolic Steroids
💡Dosing Protocols
💡Estradiol
💡Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)
💡Anavar
Highlights
Primobolan (Primo) is used for mild effects on hormone balance and can be added to testosterone for anabolism without significant agitation.
At a low dose, Primo can cause mild agitation, but it is less severe compared to Trenbolone or Halotestin.
Primo is a DHT derivative and may increase irritability, but the effects are less pronounced than with other androgens.
A reasonable starting point for Primo dosing is a 1:1 ratio with testosterone.
High doses of Primo beyond 1000mg per week do not offer additional cosmetic or anabolic benefits.
Primo is most effective for appearance enhancement when body fat levels are below 10%.
Reduced body fat levels decrease aromatization, potentially affecting the need for testosterone dosage.
A low dose of Anavar can be added to a testosterone and Primo stack for additional collagen synthesis.
Winstrol can be combined with testosterone and Primo for a lean look, but caution is advised due to its anti-estrogenic effects.
Masteron can be considered as a budget alternative to increase the cosmetic appearance when Primo is used.
The speaker prefers pharmaceutical grade compounds and discusses the importance of injection convenience.
A detailed administration protocol for a stack including testosterone, Primo, and Masteron is provided.
Anavar is recommended as a low-dose addition to enhance mind-muscle connection and collagen synthesis.
The combination of multiple anabolic steroids is not advised unless necessary for contest preparation.
Trembolone is compared to Primo as a budget alternative with more significant side effects.
Primo is considered superior to Trembolone in terms of side effect profile and overall experience.
The importance of keeping the total androgenic intake low and adjusting dosages to meet specific goals is emphasized.
The transcript concludes with advice on dosing, protocols, and the effects of Primo, as well as resources for further information and coaching.
Transcripts
so the agitation volume knob has been
turned down to about a 10
um and prima baldwin raises that to
about a 12 on a scale from one to a
hundred tremolo is like 120 so
just to give you as a reference uh game
over
no never again
welcome to vigorous pds yet again
i'm coach steve and we're going to
continue with the primo ball in shark
week and talk about
dosing and protocols because that's the
probably the most favorite video that
everybody has been waiting for
patiently while i went over the history
the immune system the amatecrit
and how it acts as an aromatized
inhibitor and everything that it affects
along the side of it but before we go
into the dosing
i'm not going to ask you to like you
should do that automatically i shouldn't
have to ask
but it's still highly appreciated i'm
gonna
in follow in derek's footsteps and beat
him to the punch
because i am the prima ballen pro and
tell you
how does it feel to be on primobol and
it's actually
it's quite mild it doesn't compare to
tremblone
halo testing the animal whatsoever
you're adding a little bit of extra
androgens on top of your testosterone
base usually on testosterone you feel
pretty good
unless you really mess with your hormone
balance and your sex drive is completely
off
in most cases if you've been taking
testosterone
moderately and you controlled your
neurosteroids and your
estradiol levels and everything else
accordingly
you should feel pretty good and by
adding primobolan on top
you should feel just as good but
you might be a little bit agitated you
won't be as agitated as
tremblone or halo testing but you will
be agitated again
primobolan is a dht derivative
guys that convert testosterone into dht
at a higher rate compared to
what is average or perhaps a bit more
irritable or
easily triggered by certain words
compared to
before they were using primabolin i
experienced the same thing with anavar
so regardless of the dose
i feel at a reasonably low dose of five
milligrams per day
anavar and i feel at a low dose of 200
milligrams per
volume per week and it doesn't scale
with
increasing the dose from 200 milligrams
primo per week to let's say a thousand
milligrams of premium volume per week
and it doesn't scale with five
milligrams anova per day to
25 milligrams of anavar per day the
agitation level stays the same but it's
it's it's like a subconscious agitation
and i would
almost compare that to being on diet
now 200 milligrams of green bone is
more than enough during the off-season
and a thousand milligrams of premium
volume per week
well that's usually during a cutting
phase in which case you'll be more
agitated
regardless because calories are down and
carbohydrate intake is uh
severely or somewhat restricted your
blood sugar fluctuates
and oh man you go from highs and lows
and uh being happy
right after the meal to being severely
agitated before the meal
and a thousand milligrams supreme ball
is going to exacerbate that
but it doesn't even come close to the
agitation you would
feel on trembling or halo testing
could also be the case because primo
ball and you generally run in the
beginning of the contest prep
or a cutting phase and then at one point
you know most people pull the trigger
and it's like i
got uh get on that that their tremblona
bro
because otherwise they're afraid they
won't look hard and freaky and dense etc
but
take it from me and we'll discuss that a
little bit later in the protocol
you can run prima ballen for a
substantial amount of time to the end of
your cutting phase and then
throw in a little withdrawal and you're
done really you'll will look
absolutely amazing i guarantee it if and
only if
you're in true condition not if you're
10 body fat and you have to flush
everything out with diuretics
yeah then you look uh eight percent body
fat stringy yeah flat because there's no
volume to your muscles because you
took all the electrolytes out so we
won't go over that
the only noticeable difference that i
feel by adding primobolan on top of my
protocol and some of my clients notice
the same thing is agitation
which is easily mitigated by increasing
your caloric intake
or staying away from current news
um unless it's about bitcoin bitcoins in
a very good position right now that's
good news for me
and hopefully for some of you guys out
there that are trading in bitcoin that's
good news
as well that's why i'm in a good mood
right now even though i'm off the primo
pollen
uh and i've used bremen ball for about
eight weeks now
but my wife noticed that after
discontinuing the primo ball and she
said
yeah you're much more mellow and relaxed
and not as irritable and agitated as you
were before even though you were in a
steep caloric surplus so that's the only
noticeable thing that i can mention
um how you feel when you add primable on
top of your testosterone dose
so the agitation volume knob has been
turned down to about a 10
and prima baldwin raises that to about a
12 on a scale from one to a hundred
tremolo is like 120 so just to give you
as a reference
game over no never again
tremble on never again
so let's go into the dosing and it's
very simple
and i've alluded to this many times
before already in the other primabone
videos and whenever i mentioned
primobolan
testosterone and primobolan in a one
to one ratio and that concludes this
video thank you guys so much for
watching
i'll see you in the next okay hold stop
stop the dislikes put them back into
your pocket
i'll clarify a little bit okay
one-to-one ratio step number one yeah
i discussed in the testosterone video
already step-by-step approach
you replace some of the testosterone
reamer ball and and try to
make that end up at a one to one ratio i
feel that one milligram of primobolan
gives the same amount of anabolism
compared to one milligram of
testosterone
it's clearly not as potent as tremolone
but again the agitation is a trade-off
for the amount of anabolism you get i
prefer a little bit less animalism and
get that from food
and keep my primobolan dosing moderate
100 milligrams of test 100 milligrams of
primabolin
that's already a great starting point i
have several hormone replacement guys on
this protocol they don't require
an aromatized inhibitor they're adding
dhea and pregnenolone to supplement
their neural steroids and
get their estradiol in a favorable range
for that libido power in their hormone
replacement
plus primobolan cycle and then for the
bodybuilders like i've proven
myself to you guys a couple months ago
250 tests 200 milligrams supreme bone
now i should have followed my own advice
and taken 250 milligrams of testosterone
and 250 milligrams of primobolan per
week
but i like convenience one ample of
primobolan is 100 milligrams
and one amp of testosterone is 250
milligrams so half a cc of testosterone
and a full cc of primabolin twice per
week monday and friday resulting in 250
tests 200 premo
and adding another 50 milligrams of
premo bond on top would result in me
splitting the ampoules into
quarters and now that ampule is opened
for two weeks because i take a quarter
on monday quarter on friday quarter on
the consecutive monday and the
another quarter on the friday after
maybe 0.3 because again bayer primable
and sometimes it gets overfilled so you
get 1.1 1.2 milliliters
again pharma and bayer you're the best
so it's a little bit cumbersome to get
250 milligrams of premium volume per
week because you have to
store half of the ampoule for another
week
and i don't like to keep these ampoules
or keryoles exposed to the air
longer than needed and then the next
logical step would be
375 milligrams with testosterone and it
takes and
400 milligrams of primobolan so the
testosterone jumps up with a
125 milligrams a week and bringing bone
jumps up with 200 milligrams primobolan
per week
again i'm going with convenience
half an ampoule of testosterone three
times a week
and two ccs of primobola on top twice a
week
resulting in 400 milligrams so you can
take that step by step increase your
doses accordingly and try to
estimate or get around that one-to-one
ratio i feel that in most cases
people's results are best because you
get you can
really overdo the primabone and beyond a
thousand milligrams per week
unless you're really really big beyond a
thousand milligrams per week i don't
feel there's any more cosmetic benefit
or any more anabolic benefit
on top of whatever dose of testosterone
that you're taking so
if you really like that primabone look
but you don't like testosterone so much
or you're allergic to it or you have
adverse effects or you're a feminist
i don't know whatever sets you off that
doesn't make you
like testosterone everybody has their
choice personally i love testosterone
testosterone is the greatest hormone
known to man
and then growth raw and insulin follow a
close second pre-mobile anovar
fourth and fifth fighting for the fourth
and fifth spot
depending on what's available and what i
feel so let's say you're happy with
testosterone and a hormone replacement
dose whether that's bodybuilding hormone
replacement or true
hormone replacement it varies between
100 milligrams testosterone and
yeah i'm not going to say 500 milligrams
a test even though uh it's not unheard
of
i'm running hormone replacement how much
500 milligrams of testosterone
all right you might mistake hormone
replacement for cycle
anyway your body your responsibility
so let's say one milligram of
testosterone per one pound of body
weight at
ten percent body fat before you guys
start flaming me in the comment section
one milligram test per one pound of body
weight at 10
body fat and you'll figure out how much
actual milligram that is
and if you want to cheat a little bit
you go with testosterone acetate
but the hardcore proven true
bodybuilders will just say okay
testosterone antidote i'm 250 pounds 250
milligrams of testosterone that's my
hormone replacement
great you want
the cosmetic benefits and the anabolism
and the overall appearance from
primobolan and you're happy with how you
look on this hormone
replacement dose with testosterone you
only increase your
primobolan on top so you might end up at
250 milligrams of testosterone energy
per week or proprionator supine or
acetate whatever you prefer
and then you add 300 milligrams 500
milligrams 700 milligrams 1 000
milligrams of prima pollen on top
at least until the points are happy with
your appearance and again
your appearance also comes from body fat
levels so if you're over 10
body fat i honestly don't think premium
bone is going to make a dent in your
appearance
because primabolin and most of the dht
based compounds really
shine when your sub 10 body fat you can
use it at 12
body fat but sub 10 percent
you'll really see the cosmetic changes
and they become apparent
so if you're 15 body fat you might need
a thousand milligrams of primobola
to get a cosmetic benefit but if you're
ten percent eight percent
maybe six percent you might only need
500 milligrams of premium volume to look
cosmetically pleasing because
the body fat is not obscuring your look
so again the premo ball dosing highly
depends on your body fat levels and when
your body fat levels are high even
though i don't really recommend it
in order to get the pleasing look of
primobolan
you need to run it at a considerable
dose and that's probably where the
um the the bro science bull comes from
oh brumu bone is such a weak compound it
doesn't do anything it doesn't make you
look good
bro you just need to get your ass in
shape
you just need to get lean and then
primable is a beautiful compound and
makes you look like
wolverine or thor or captain america or
steve when he's lean really it's a great
compound and you don't need to run so
much you just need to get your body fat
levels under control
keep in mind like we mentioned in the
aromatize inhibitor
video lower body fat levels means
less aromatized activity and your
testosterone dose
might be insufficient if you keep it at
hormone replacement
because a substantial amount of
primobolan is acting as an aromatized
inhibitor so 250 tests
at 12 body fat and your estrogen is uh
30
picograms per milliliter on 500
milligrams of primobolan
an example reducing your body fat levels
from
percent to ten percent to eight percent
to six percent
and you keep your premium bone the same
because you're getting more cosmetically
pleasing because your body feel lows are
down
that 250 milligrams of testosterone
might only convert
into 15 20 pocket grams per milliliter
on serum ester dial
and i've seen guys that run 500
milligrams of test but their body fat
levels are so low
that even with 500 milligrams of
primobolan on top or a thousand
milligrams of premium volume so that's a
one to two ratio
their ester dial is almost in a single
digit
so you really have to keep track of that
that's why i like the one-to-one ratio
because you don't crush the estrogen so
much
when you draw body fat and again i feel
that primobolan really shines when
you're sub
10 and if you're doing a photoshoot or a
contest prep and you're
ending up with a thousand milligrams of
primal bone because you want that
super clean beautiful uh movie star good
look
um on top of your freaky amounts of
muscle mass because
a thousand milligrams of green bone
shouldn't be attempted by
guys that actually look like a movie
star you should be
substantially large to get a movie star
good look
referring to the polish and shine and
cosmetic repair that you get when you
run primabolin you shouldn't
attempt to run a thousand milligrams of
green bottle just to
look like wolverine really again you
need
way less maybe two 300 milligrams at
best if it's
real pharmaceutical bayer removal
okay so that's the other case in some
cases you see that the uh
estradiol conversion isn't so high so
you might run your testosterone levels a
lot higher
compared to your primable dose you're
happy with a thousand milligrams a test
you're at lean body fat you don't get so
much aromatized activity and 300
milligrams of primobola on top
is more than enough to take your
appearance to the next level
and in other cases when you have
financial
constraints the third compound that we
can talk about
um given that your estrogen levels are
good and your sexual binding global
levels are not too low
is mastero so let's say you ended up at
500 milligrams of testosterone
in 500 milligrams of primobolan you want
to take that cosmetic appearance to the
next level
but you can't afford another 500
milligrams of primobolan
or 300 milligrams of primobolan adding
200 milligrams of mastrone enentate on
top of your prima bone and testosterone
in a one to one
ratio will almost give you the same
appearance as doubling
your premium ball really so it's a
budget
option now personally i don't like
masterone because there's no
pharmaceutical grade
masterone available and i don't have
access to
masterone that is in the carrier oil
that i like to administer into my own
body
so maestro for me is off the table
personally i'm not worried about the
potential for hair loss that masterone
and primobolin can induce because
it appears that i'm not really prone to
androgenetic alopecia i mean i've
i've run a significant amount of
primobolan and mastrone in my day
and yeah
so far so good so if you're on a budget
and you want a little bit of the polish
of a higher dose of primobolan but you
can't afford
a higher dose of primobolin a very low
dose of 100
two hundred maybe three hundred
milligrams of mastodon enotate or mass
from proprionate
i would go with masterone in update
because proprietary yes you get more
milligrams per milligram because the
proprietary is so much
lighter compared to the annotate but
injection
convenience plays a contributing
part in deciding which compound you're
going to take and if you're taking
testosterone innotate
and primobolin or methanol in a date why
don't we run draw standalone annotate on
top as well
that's a lot of annotate esters in the
body but hey
your body actually produces these
enzymes cause esterases to cleave off
the
enantite ester so why don't we do
annotate everything
testosterone enantite methenolone
annotate and draw standalone
enotate instead of going to draw
standalone proprionate and you haven't
used any propriant ester for a long
period of time
and these esterases are a little bit
confused
and indeed but i try to break down the
proprionator it doesn't really work
and now you get weird serum
concentrations again of course these
enzymes will
come back and start to cleave off the
appropriate so don't worry about that
so for this example for the sake of
convenience let's go over the
administration protocol
for 500 tests 500 primo and 200
mass drone 250 milligrams of
testosterone twice per week on
tuesday and saturday prima bowling
three times per week 200 milligrams
monday and friday and 100 milligrams on
wednesday
and you can do 100 milligrams of
masteron and updates
on maybe monday and friday as well
or maybe 100 milligrams masterone on
wednesday and 100 milligrams on sunday
ideally you would go with the least
amount of injections even though they
might be over a higher volume
so let's say if we do three injections
per week or two injections per week
250 milligrams of premo plus 250
milligrams of testosterone and 100
milligrams of masterone that's probably
already
four and a half cc's and if you're
running castor oil and the mastodon is
in grapeseed oil that's a that's a
pretty thick
injection so you might want to space
those apart so let's say
two cc's per day that's your injection
budget
per day you can combine 100 milligrams
percent on energ8 which are
testosterone injection on tuesday
and saturday so that's one cc
testosterone and a half a cc
master on annotate and then the other
days monday wednesday
friday two cc's primo monday half a cc
primo on wednesday and two cc's primo on
friday
just an example i'm not telling you to
do this this is how
i would do it if i had access to
masteron in
organic care or like a cotton sweet
grapes sesame oil
mct oil even i would prefer grape seed
oil because of
viscosity matching or as clo matching as
close as it can to the enemy ester
of drostan alone annotate
man it was a mouthful third compound
or second compound that i like to add on
top of testosterone
or primobolin and goes very well
together
anavar the best you only need a very
very low dose your foundation is
testosterone and primobolan
and you're simply adding on top the
anavar at five to ten milligrams per day
if it's legit you don't need any more to
facilitate
mind muscle connection and additional
collagen synthesis
of course the unique characteristics of
anova is that it promotes so much
collagen synthesis in connective tissue
and the skin etc so testosterone
primobolan
and a low dose of anavar
that's a very pleasing functional
physique
because again prima ball and especially
at a higher dose
might make you a little bit tight
because it is a dht derivative and it
might reduce your serum estradiol
concentrations depending on the dose of
testosterone that you're taking and
or mastering that you're taking
alongside of it don't combine test primo
master on nanovar
now the third choose a third compound
leave it at that you're not going
to combine five different anabolic
steroids um
unless you're doing a contest prep and
it might be a necessity at one point
hire me as a coach really personally i
really like that combination but i'm
in a little bit privileged position
because i can buy all these compounds
tess primo and anavar
pharmaceutical grade here at the
pharmacy so
it might not be possible for you maybe
your anova is actually winstrol but
test primo and winstrol is also a valid
combination
but only if you're at the end of a
cutting phase i wouldn't
like test primo and nfr you can run that
whether you're in the offseason
or a cutting phase or contest prep it's
it's always a valid
combination even a hormone replacement i
got one client
doing 150 tests 150 primo
and 2.5 milligrams of anavar on top his
blood work is absolutely perfect
his hdl is like 45 and his ldl is maybe
110 120 so it's it's
pretty close to the healthy reference
range even though he's on
335 milligrams of anabolics combined per
week
so it's not exactly hormone replacement
but it's
yeah again bodybuilders are going to
body build and they like
a little bit more bang for their buck
and remain in some sort of shape
even though they're considered to be on
a cruise
so there's many different combinations
in this sense
you can do testosterone primo and
winstrol if you're
reasonably lean i'd say sub six percent
body fat again
you don't want to dose the wind stroll
too high when you're at a higher
body weight percentage because you don't
see the cosmetic changes
and since winstrol really dries out the
joints and has some anti-estrogenic
effects by itself
similar to maestro the amount of
aromatize inhibit
inhibition you get from bringing a ball
and adding winstrol on top
and your reduced amount of aromatized
activity that is already occurring when
you're at
60 40 body fat is substantial
so again you don't you really don't need
much of wind stroll
500 test 500 premo per week and maybe 30
milligrams of winter on top
don't do 100 milligrams of winter per
day when you're that lean
you'll tear yourself apart unless you
train like
like a banana um i think that's not
derogatory
if you train like a banana yes you can
dose the winstrol substantially higher
but if you train like insane with
hypertrophy in mind and you're following
progressive overload
winstrol is probably your worst enemy
you don't want to tear yourself apart
unless there's something to win like a
pro card or prize money or a reputation
if you're just doing a photo shield
testosterone primo anavar
more than enough now
during the offseason you might be able
to replace a little bit of testosterone
with baldness and then add a little bit
of primobolan for cosmetic effect on top
just to keep you going and provide
overall anabolism
without blurring lines i don't really
like the combination of primobolan and
trembolone
because tremblone i mean let's be honest
it's just
budget primo so if you're a reckless
bodybuilder and you're not
promoting yourself on instagram you have
no financial means
or you're just a silly gym rat tremble
on
100 will give you more bang for your
buck if you can deal with the side
effects
the night sweats and the anger
management issues and the
um the incredibly reduced semen volume
which you don't get on primobolan
semen volume is maintained some people
care about that i care about that
it shows love and appreciation um
i think that's a good analogy the higher
your semen volume is the
more love and appreciation you have for
your partner right and on trenbolone
there's very little appreciation and
very little love
for your partner because it's such a
terrible androgenic
compound all right we'll not go over all
the other side effects we'll do that in
a primavone profile video
maybe somewhere in 2025 um
or when i feel like it earlier i feel
that primobolan is absolutely superior
over trend alone in
any way shape or form unless you're on a
budget
but if you have the financial means
prima ballen at maybe
3 even to five times the effective dose
of tremble on so let's say you get great
results on 225 milligrams of tremblone
maybe a comparable amount of primabolin
would be 600
maybe even already a thousand milligrams
of primobolan per week
now you can't replace 700 milligrams of
tremalone
with what two thousand milligrams of
primobolan
it's not going to end well you still
want to keep the total amount of
androgenic intake at a all-time low and
just
only use the required amount to get to
your goal
so if you really need to be freaky dense
hard and dry looking
then tremblone is probably preferred but
you know if you consider all the side
effects especially at higher dosages
and i would take primo ball and hands
down any day of the week it doesn't
matter if it costs me a fortune
because the side effects well besides
increases of hematocrit levels and a
little bit of agitation
it's basically side effect free
so i hope that wraps it up regarding the
dosing and the protocols and how you
feel on
ballen thank you guys so much for
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