Putting Your Body On The Line For Jiu-Jitsu
Summary
TLDRThe Bulletproof for BJJ podcast discusses the risks and awareness of gambling in Jiu-Jitsu, drawing parallels with the dangers of excessive gambling and the potential for injury in the sport. The host shares stories, including one about an artist turned millionaire through controlled gambling, to emphasize the importance of setting limits. The episode also highlights the significance of proper hydration with the help of Sodi and Parry Athletics, offering insights on maintaining balance and moderation in training and life.
Takeaways
- 🎲 The story of how an artist became a millionaire through controlled gambling highlights the importance of setting limits and having discipline in risky activities.
- 🤕 The risk of injury in Jiu-Jitsu is not just associated with high-stakes situations; it can happen during simple drills or warm-ups if attention isn't paid.
- 💡 Awareness of the inherent risks in Jiu-Jitsu is crucial to prevent injuries, emphasizing the need for caution even in seemingly harmless training scenarios.
- 🎯 The analogy of gambling to Jiu-Jitsu training illustrates the need for setting limits on the amount of 'risk' one is willing to take, whether it's financial or physical.
- 🚫 The speaker discourages online gambling, emphasizing the poor odds and the potential for significant loss, advising against it as an investment strategy.
- 🏥 Injuries in Jiu-Jitsu can lead to serious consequences like surgery, which is a risk that practitioners should be aware of and try to mitigate.
- 🤷♂️ The misconception that casual Jiu-Jitsu practitioners are immune to injuries is debunked, with the reminder that everyone is susceptible to the risks involved.
- 🏁 The concept of 'one more rep' or 'one more roll' is identified as a potential source of injury, where pushing beyond one's limits can lead to harm.
- 🎨 The saying 'Rust out or wear out' is introduced to convey the idea that inactivity can lead to deterioration just as much as physical activity can lead to wear and tear.
- 🕰 The importance of time management in training is discussed, suggesting that setting time constraints can help prevent overexertion and reduce injury risk.
- 🎭 The idea of leaving something on the table, whether it's a podcast, artwork, or a training session, is presented as a wise practice that can enhance quality and prevent overextension.
Q & A
What is the main theme discussed in the 'Bulletproof for BJJ' podcast?
-The main theme discussed in the podcast is the concept of gambling in the context of Jiu-Jitsu, drawing parallels between the risks taken in gambling and those taken during training and competition, emphasizing the importance of awareness and control to avoid injuries.
Why did the speaker bring up the story of David Cho?
-The speaker brought up the story of David Cho to illustrate the idea of controlled gambling as a strategy to become a millionaire, which serves as a metaphor for setting limits and exercising restraint in Jiu-Jitsu to minimize the risk of injury.
What is the significance of mentioning Patty Pimblett's participation in a grappling event?
-The significance of mentioning Patty Pimblett's participation in a grappling event is to highlight the inherent risks of engaging in such activities, even for professional fighters, and to emphasize the importance of being cautious to avoid injuries.
What is the 'hot hand' fallacy mentioned by the speaker?
-The 'hot hand' fallacy refers to the belief that a person who has been experiencing success in gambling will continue to win, which is a cognitive bias. The speaker uses this to caution against overconfidence and the potential for injury when pushing oneself too far.
Why does the speaker compare gambling to training in Jiu-Jitsu?
-The speaker compares gambling to training in Jiu-Jitsu to draw attention to the risks and potential for injury in both activities. Just as gamblers may underestimate the odds against them, practitioners of Jiu-Jitsu might underestimate the risks of injury during training.
What is the role of a 'minder' in the context of gambling, as mentioned in the script?
-A 'minder' in the context of gambling is someone who helps the gambler exercise control by stopping them from continuing to gamble once they've reached a certain profit, ensuring they do not lose all their winnings.
What advice does the speaker give regarding the risk of injury in Jiu-Jitsu?
-The speaker advises practitioners to be aware of the inherent risks of injury in Jiu-Jitsu, to exercise restraint, and to set limits on their training to avoid overexertion and potential injury.
How does the speaker relate the concept of 'gambler's fallacy' to Jiu-Jitsu training?
-The speaker relates the 'gambler's fallacy' to Jiu-Jitsu training by pointing out that just as gamblers believe they are due for a win after a series of losses, Jiu-Jitsu practitioners might think they are due for an injury-free session after a period of safe training, which can lead to complacency and risk-taking.
What is the importance of setting time constraints in training, as discussed in the script?
-Setting time constraints in training is important as it helps practitioners to be more disciplined and efficient with their workouts. It prevents them from overtraining and risking injury by pushing beyond their planned limits.
Why does the speaker mention the story of the young man gambling online?
-The speaker mentions the story of the young man gambling online to illustrate the dangers of getting caught up in the excitement of winning and the potential for significant financial loss, drawing a parallel to the risks of injury when not exercising restraint in Jiu-Jitsu.
What is the significance of the saying 'Rust out or wear out' in the context of the podcast?
-The saying 'Rust out or wear out' signifies the choice between allowing one's body to deteriorate from lack of use (rust out) or to experience the natural wear and tear that comes from active use (wear out). It encourages embracing the inevitable aging process and making conscious choices about how to live an active life.
Outlines
🎰 The Risks of Gambling in BJJ and Life
The speaker discusses the unexpected risks associated with gambling, drawing parallels to the world of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ). They highlight how injuries can occur during seemingly safe training scenarios, not just in high-stakes situations. The comparison is made to online gambling, where the odds are generally against the player, and the dangers of overestimating one's luck. The importance of awareness and setting limits to avoid unnecessary risks is emphasized, suggesting that even in BJJ, one must be cautious to not push their body to the point of injury.
🏍️ Risk-Taking in Sports and the Consequences
This paragraph delves into the inherent risks of engaging in high-risk activities, using the example of motorbike riders who often engage in dangerous stunts. The speaker recounts a personal anecdote about a group of motorbike riders who would boast about their risky behavior, leading to one of them suffering a severe accident that ended his gym attendance. The comparison extends to BJJ, where despite being less inherently risky than activities like motorbike riding, there is still an unavoidable element of risk. The speaker advocates for recognizing and respecting these risks, rather than underestimating them.
🎨 The Art of Controlled Risk-Taking
The speaker introduces the story of David Cho, an artist who became a millionaire not through his art but through controlled gambling in Las Vegas. With the help of a 'minder' to limit his gambling, Cho exemplifies the idea of setting boundaries to manage risk. The speaker relates this concept to BJJ, suggesting that setting limits on training intensity can reduce the risk of injury. They also touch on the idea of 'one more rep' mentality and how it can lead to overexertion and potential injury, advocating for discipline and restraint in training.
⏳ The Discipline of Time and Moderation
In this paragraph, the speaker discusses the importance of time management and moderation in both training and BJJ. They share personal experiences of wanting to join in rolls during their coaching sessions but knowing it's not the right time due to lack of warm-up and potential injury risk. The concept of 'minder' from the previous paragraph is revisited, with the speaker acting as their own minder to prevent overtraining or unnecessary risks. The idea of leaving a session feeling like there's more to be done is presented as a positive sign of having trained effectively without overdoing it.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Gambling
💡Jiu-Jitsu
💡Injury
💡Control
💡Minder
💡Risk
💡Awareness
💡Surgery
💡Parry Athletics
💡Sodi
💡Moderation
Highlights
Discussion on the risks of gambling in the context of Jiu-Jitsu and the potential for injury.
The story of an individual becoming a millionaire through controlled gambling, not through art or Facebook investments.
Patty Pimblett's participation in a grappling event and the risks associated with such activities.
The importance of being aware of the risks of injury in Jiu-Jitsu, even during seemingly low-stakes training.
The analogy between gambling and the risks taken in Jiu-Jitsu training, emphasizing the need for caution.
A personal account of online gambling experiences and the conversation about the odds and risks involved.
The concept of 'gambler's fallacy' and its relation to the mindset of athletes in Jiu-Jitsu.
A comparison between the risks taken in Jiu-Jitsu and those taken by motorbike riders, highlighting the inherent risks in both.
The idea that injuries in sports like Jiu-Jitsu often come from unexpected places, not just high-stakes situations.
Sponsorship mention of Parry Athletics and the promotion of their gear for both training and casual wear.
The importance of proper hydration with electrolytes during training and the role of Sodi in providing it.
The concept of 'moderation' in training and its relation to avoiding injuries and maintaining longevity in sports.
A personal example of the importance of setting time constraints in training to avoid overexertion.
The idea of having a 'minder' or personal trainer for gambling as a metaphor for setting limits in Jiu-Jitsu training.
The notion of leaving a training session or artwork with the feeling that you could have done more, as a sign of moderation.
The advice to do '10% less' in training to ensure safety and longevity, emphasizing the importance of restraint.
The closing thoughts on the importance of awareness, moderation, and setting limits in Jiu-Jitsu to prevent injuries.
Transcripts
and he became a millionaire not through
his art not through the Facebook thing
but through gambling with control ladies
and gentlemen welcome to another
bulletproof for BJ podcast are you a
gambler do you like a punt are you
betting on the multi are you betting on
the UFC do you like the pokes do you
like Las
Vegas if you do Jiu-Jitsu safe to say
you are a gambler and what are you
gambling your ligaments you you you a
gambling surgery now at the time it's
all good fun while you're winning you're
all good until you're not my friends and
that's what you don't realize that's
what I have not realized in the past you
think I'm getting a good roll on here
rolling well you know feeling Invincible
sweeping the higher belts I tap that
black belt feeling good and then pop uh
I just tore a liament now I can't walk
hang on I got to go see the physio they
tell me I got to see a surgeon it it is
riskier than we realize and I think this
is why I wanted to talk about gambling
because this is something we don't we
don't think about in jitu you want to
talk about a gamble I want to talk about
a gamble I saw um Patty pimblett
competed in uh a grappling event was it
Polaris or something oh might have been
I just saw the clip popped up on my on
my Instagram and um the guy put a leg
Scissor on him oh really and it was fine
Patty didn't get hurt but it was a
pretty rough leg scissor and it looked
like like I'm pretty sure his MCL was
holding on for D life and you're like
bro you're UFC fighter why are you
putting yourself into this grappling
event like because you know that moment
they must have offered him some money or
yeah I think he's just a bit of a gamer
too isn't he but but you know when when
you see the leg scissors and it's bami
yeah and like the weight shifts into the
the foot gets kind of stuck and then the
knee goes that way and then the the hip
goes that way and that's usually when
it's
like and like I was waiting for the the
moment but it didn't come and he's like
oh my God he's so lucky he end up
getting heel hooked or whatever some
[ __ ] but but that's a gamble right
you're like bro but here's the thing
which I think we
underestimate when we get injured in
Jiu-Jitsu it's not necessarily the high
stakes shoot them out I'm trying to heal
hook you you're trying to heal hook me
it could just be something simple as
some nonsense Clos guard drill the
person goes to sweep your body shifts
your leg doesn't and now you've you've
torn your miniscus and it was like oh
but I wasn't doing anything this is the
thing that and I'm I'm not saying this
to be alarmist I'm saying this to be a
aware bring some awareness to this it
often injury often strikes when you're
not doing high stakes [ __ ] it's like oh
we were just warming up I was just you
know I was just doing the the neck
exercises for wrestling yeah but this is
this is if we're not paying attention
attention this was where it can be risky
and I want to talk I want to talk some
odds because I I was talking with a
young man about online gambling he was
gambling online and I was like dude what
are you doing and he's like oh you know
like I'm I got the hot hand I'm like
what are you talking about he's like I
want 1500 bucks yesterday you having
this conversation on his private jet uh
I wasn't no no no this is a this is a
young this is a young man on his phone
on a smoker break and I'm like dude what
are you what are you doing over there he
like oh bro I got you know he's like I'm
killing it right now I'm like well what
are you doing he's like I won $1,500
yday I'm like yeah okay and what what
are you doing with that I like I'm using
it to make more money it's an investment
strategy and I was like dude you can't
afford to be doing this man you work a
terrible job where they give you a 5
minute smoko break if you really had
excess money you wouldn't be gambling
I'm like your odds and I don't know the
odds about online casinos but your odds
at best if you're in the casino are kind
of 20% or less like one in five if
you're lucky if you're doing all right
but otherwise you it's a rigged game you
will lose but here's the thing gamblers
generally today's my day today I get
lucky I'm going to win I'm going to win
every day you know this is a bit of a a
mentality right because it's a cognitive
B I remember that one time I won two gs
on the pokies yeah I'll just put in 20
bucks hey just I'll put in 50 bucks and
this is the thing we do with jiu-jitsu I
think get hurt last time I'm definitely
not going to get hurt today I'm not like
those professional guys I don't train
Bud three times a day I'm much less
likely to get injured this is not true
my friends if you do Jiu-Jitsu you are
absolutely putting your body on the line
and you are risking surgery now why do I
want to say this I'm not trying to be
alarmist allow me to proceed to alarm
you no like I said awareness awareness
this is what I wanted to do because for
most part I think people that I meet in
jiujitsu they're not super risky people
you know it's not like for example you
know people who would necessarily be
like motorbike Riders like a part of a
motorcycle club or you know like when I
used to train in the gym when I was
younger there was a group of five guys
who would all come on their really
high-powered motorbikes these aren't
part of an MC they're not like driving
like a Harley-Davidson or something like
that they're riding sports bikes and
these guys used to talk mad crazy talk
about the crazy stuff they would do on
their
bikes one of these guys was in a really
bad accident and he couldn't come to the
gym anymore but it was like I knew these
guys for about a period of a year and
they always used to oh man I was like
doing this and I went the wrong way up
this exit you know ramp and like it was
like real you know high stakes
adrenaline [ __ ] and you're like whoa I I
it made me feel very nervous actually to
hear them talk and then one of them was
in a really bad accident and
and then he just couldn't come to the
gym anymore I don't know exactly what
happened to that young man now I say
this with full respect that is a risky
group of people to be around because
they promote like it's encouraged like
yo what did you do yeah man we've you
know bragging and this risk taking but
you don't think that you're gambling
permanent disability or potentially your
life right and in Jiu-Jitsu you know we
I I find that most people I meet in
Jiu-Jitsu are not super risky they're
not risky risky people they're just like
oh I'm just trying to do a bit of
Jiu-Jitsu but here's the thing there is
an inbuilt inherent risk and and we've
talked about this not in an alarm way
but said you know injury is kind of in
ways unavoidable yeah it's part of it
yeah and it comes from places you you
least expect perhaps you're like ah this
is like a usual scenario we're doing a
takeown drill or yeah you know um yeah
so like I do agree I agree right you
know with the with the sentiment but I
think um here's something I I reflect on
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because I often get like like my knee
you know like damn man these injuries
suck kind of thing but you know here's a
here's the thing like my uh my sister
doesn't doesn't do any competitive sport
anymore sure right she's an academic yes
um and you know professional um doesn't
do any sport also doesn't doesn't do any
lifting or
anything um got bad knees right yes I do
a bunch of lifting bunch of sport got
bad knees right no I wouldn't say your
knees are bad no but you've had knee
injuries I've had KNE injuries right so
so my you know it's a very crude
comparison right it's like not a an
honest cross-section but my observation
is
that life's going to injure you yeah
like it's going to happen sure so and
and is almost like maybe some some
sports like maybe golf or something you
know okay you're probably not going to
end up on the on the surgery table you
might hurt your back you could but it's
probably just going to be more of like
shoulder thing like niggling things but
like any sport that's like you know
whatever very physically demanding
soccer tennis
volleyball requires Dynamic movements
right power lifting even like you're
going to cop injuries so in that way I'm
I'm like that I also just want to bring
that to the table because or even you
don't do any sport you avoid the
potential injuries yeah and then because
your your joints awak and [ __ ] you get
injured yeah yeah so a saying I got from
Frank Barker from 10th Planet melbour
shout out good man I still haven't met
Frank but we connect a lot on Instagram
total Legend love the guy he said a
saying I think he got from his father or
his grandfather which is rust out or
wear out yeah I like that it's kind of
it's up to you right like you can choose
to
take the wear and tear by your own
choice and and and and and and using
your body the way you want or you know
you can your body will gradually out if
you avoid those things anyway yeah
through like lack of use so what do you
choose well I think you can have a I
think there's a middle ground I think
there's a middle ground and look at you
oh my god a middle ground possibly okay
tell me more okay so well I'm going to
this sounds like a very strange segue
but there's a guy called David Cho now
David Cho is actually an artist and um
yeah I think what you'll find is if you
google David show um he is famous for
doing uh artwork for Facebook and he
made a lot of money through that he
basically Zuckerberg he met um the
founder of Napster sha Michaels Justin
Timberlake Justin Timberlake that guy
yeah he hung out with him and that guy
helped raise money for for Facebook he
was an early investor and he David Cho
was hanging out with him and he said bro
this Zuckerberg guy like this shit's
gone somewhere and so Z he got zck
interested in David Cho and David Cho
painted the Facebook officers he didn't
take they didn't couldn't really pay him
what he wanted he wanted like I don't
know 80 grand they like nah yeah we
could but do you want some stock and um
the the founder I think it's Sean is the
founder of napsa said bro you going to
take this stock trust me when Facebook
ipoed I think he got like $150 million
like that was the value of his stock
reasonable reasonable David Cho was
actually a millionaire before the
Facebook s right because he paid a guy
to be his minder in Vegas he would go to
Vegas and he would go into the casino
with like 10 G's and once he was up a
certain amount his minder would stop him
from gambling and make him leave and he
did this consistently for for a year and
he became a millionaire not through his
art not through the Facebook thing but
through gambling with control with like
a guardian almost like a personal
trainer for gambling right now this is
this is a difficult thing to do in
Jiu-Jitsu because typically you've
always got your training partners and
your coach being like train more train
more train more
right but I believe that if you set
yourself a limit kind of like gambling
like I'm only going to risk so much then
you are left less likely to get it
doesn't mean you will never get injured
but getting caught up in the poor hearta
is where we tend to go wrong I feel this
is where we going same in the gym y oh
just one more this is typically where I
[ __ ] myself up I'm like what's what what
could be the worst that could happen
yeah I'll just do one more I'm tired I'm
exhausted I I can barely hold the bar
I'll just get one more do it for goggin
do it for I don't know for Glory and
then that's where the injury kicks in
you know just you know that one more
mentality it's um when you're
snowboarding it's a it's it's law that
you never declare uh this is my last run
last run you never say it you just do it
and then go I'm out yeah you just got to
yeah CU as soon as you do it you're
getting wrecked on that run for sure and
it [ __ ] happened to me plenty of
times it's funny this does occur I've
had that situation a couple of times
recently where I've come to training
with some water but I haven't had any
electrolytes and I've finished training
and I've had to go to a convenience shop
and buy myself some kind of sports drink
usually Gatorade cost me like seven
bucks it's small and it really doesn't
contain that much of the good stuff that
I'm looking for which are the
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get yourself hydrated it's funny this
does occur across through different
modes of our life yeah I dare say I
think it's a very sensible
recommendation you've made there JT very
moderate very realistic how dare I yeah
things have changed since you've you
know I stepped into this realm it's been
it's been a change it's a change of
heart you it's refreshing James um but
but I do think the I'm thinking about
like as you were saying it I'm like yeah
how does this play out say in my
training this plays out I can for The
Listener I can give you guys a couple of
examples one is when I'm coaching
uh on Monday nights I'm I'm running some
pretty fun classes they're busy the
Energy's high it's good times yeah and
we get we're get into the rolls and and
I feel myself wanting to roll yes cuz
it's like oh [ __ ] oh they need me to
even up the numbers they need me to jump
on and and you know the boys the boys
are always looking over at me like you
rolling tonight and yeah and it's so be
like yeah let's do it your favorite
dance partner yeah and so I really want
to and I often do but I know I'm like
this is is playing with fire because I'm
jumping in without any intention I
haven't been doing the warm up my head
is really in coaching I'm thinking more
about running the space and making sure
everyone's looked after and that kind of
thing it's not a good time for me to
roll particularly if I'm like trying to
nurse this this right yeah so so that's
one time where it's like the minder
steps in and says not tonight Joey right
you're done had enough buddy yeah or uh
you finish a session it's a good session
you know whatever good not great but you
get it done and then that real tough guy
that you like to roll is like do you
want to do one more one more and you've
kind of cooled down a little bit you've
been talking [ __ ] for 15 minutes and
you're like d go on that's oh yeah it's
a problem my friends look I'm with you
on this one and and the way no I'm with
you oh you're with me oh yes first time
for everything folks this is how it goes
the tables have turned I am the moderate
but here's how I've started to reflect
on because time is a constraint for me
now I'm I'm I'm busier than I have ever
been in my life so I have to be more
disciplined about the time I don't have
a choice there's much less faffing
around for me so if I don't get all my
sets done in 20 minutes well it's it's
time to move the next exercise there's
no like oh if I give it a good five
minute just G up slap myself in the face
and now I'm going for one big last set
no it's done you only did four sets well
I didn't get my workout I didn't get
what I wanted but that's that that's the
discipline of time so for me with the
gym I set a time constraint so usually
my main working set you got 20 minutes
if you can't get five sets out in 20
minutes what the you doing you [ __ ]
around right so it's same thing with
jiu-jitsu uh if I am rolling typically
it will be more like a a day session a
lunch session I have to usually pick all
up from work if I'm you know if it's an
afternoon so I I can't just hang out
it's got to be get my roles I got to
look up right I got get shower get
change get in the car this much time I
got to be there and so I think by
imposing something artificial like an
artificial constraint or a real
constraint this is the person holding
you back from gambling more than you
should this is this is where I think
that it is something that we probably
take for granted because if you've got
that little bit of time up you're like
ah like you said oh go on like why
wouldn't I I'm not here you know I'm not
here as much as I want I want to get one
more in this is riskier than I you know
this is where we can get ourselves into
dangerous territory yeah you know that
um I've heard people say it from
previous generations about eating that
uh you should feel you should finish
your meal and feel like you could still
eat eat it again yeah right and it's or
or like you could eat more like that's
the perfect time to walk away from the
meal yeah and and uh you know there's a
lot in that right in terms of like
restraint and kind of moderation and and
that being a good habit yeah and so I
I'm thinking of it the same thing with
jiu-jitsu um I think of it the same
thing with podcasting often when you
finish an episode and you're like I
could have said more that's actually a
good sign versus you finish it and
you're like man we really flogged that
to death in the last 10 minutes we just
fluff yeah so like same thing with Jitsu
it's really great to be able to walk
away from a session like I could have
could have done more that's great that's
actually that's perfect it's fantastic
yeah actually my friend um cam cam Smith
cam scale shout out at cam scale one of
Australia's greatest mural artists he
said if you're looking at an artwork as
an artist the best time to work walk
away is when you feel like you could do
10% more he's like you're looking at it
when you're creating the artwork yeah
he's like you're doing a portrait or a
landscape and you look at you're like oh
it's not quite there perfect time to
walk away because as far as everyone
else is concerned it looks amazing right
now and that last 10% is when you can it
trying to do a little bit more detail
around the eye trying to put a bit more
color in the sky no just that that is
your fomo kicking in which is just ego
and pride Beyond Effectiveness you don't
need it you don't need it the problem is
it's just the quiet voice of sensibility
just going hey could you just do it your
ego just comes in like you can do it Shy
Bo do it don't don't don't I'm just
saying it sounds strange for me to come
across in this way do less my friends
just 10% less when you feel you could do
more actually give it a bit less and
this is going to keep you safer live to
fight another day that's what I'd say
there it is my friends thank you
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