Mar Mari Emmanuel's Response To His Suspension From The Assyrian Church

Followers Of Christ
2 Jul 202410:26

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses accusations against an individual named Mar Mary, who is also known as Robert Schon. He is accused of various violations of church laws, including living with his mother, not attending daily prayers, and wearing a traditional head covering. The speaker refutes these claims by citing historical church councils and canon laws, arguing that Schon's actions are in line with traditional practices and that there is no basis for the accusations in church law. The script also addresses allegations about using images of saints, running charity, and using modern technology like mobile phones, all of which the speaker deems permissible.

Takeaways

  • 🚫 Robert Schon is not recognized as a member of the Assyrian Church of the East and is forbidden from entering its churches.
  • 🔍 Schon was ordained by the ancient Church of the East but was later suspended, resulting in him not belonging to any church.
  • 📧 An email was sent to His Holiness on August 15, 2014, addressing accusations and clarifying nine points related to church laws.
  • 🏠 Schon argues that according to Canon 3 of the first Universal Council of NAA, clergy can live with their mothers, which counters the accusation against him.
  • 🙏 He defends himself against the accusation of missing prayers by referring to Canon 80 of the second Council of Constantinople, which only holds clergy accountable for missing Holy Mass.
  • 👲 Schon discusses the historical and religious significance of wearing the baruna, a traditional head covering, and its acceptance in the church.
  • 🖼 He refutes the accusation of using images of saints inappropriately, citing their common use in church premises and publications.
  • 🤝 Schon emphasizes that there is no church law against running charity funds, highlighting the importance of charity in Christianity.
  • ☕ He dismisses the accusation of holding social gatherings after church services, stating that there is no church law against such practices.
  • 💬 Schon argues that using words of endearment is part of Australian culture and does not reflect any inappropriate relationship with parishioners.
  • 🌍 He defends the idea of taking parishioners on tours to Jerusalem, stating that there is no church law against such activities.
  • 📱 Lastly, Schon points out that there is no prohibition in church law against using modern technology like mobile phones and earphones for communication.

Q & A

  • Who is the person being discussed in the script?

    -The person being discussed is Robert Schon, who calls himself Mar Mary, and is not a member of the Assyrian Church of the East.

  • What is the status of Robert Schon within the Assyrian Church of the East?

    -Robert Schon is not recognized by the Assyrian Church of the East, and his teachings are forbidden. He has been suspended from his church and does not belong to any church now.

  • What action was taken by the speaker regarding Robert Schon?

    -The speaker sent an email to His Holiness on the 15th of August, 2014, seeking clarification and replying to nine points concerning accusations against Robert Schon.

  • What is the significance of the 'baruna' mentioned in the script?

    -The 'baruna' is a traditional head covering worn by Assyrian holy monks and is considered an ancient practice of the Universal Church.

  • Why is the use of images in leaflets or church considered acceptable according to the script?

    -The use of images in leaflets or church is considered acceptable because it has been a historical practice and is not forbidden by any church law.

  • What does the script say about charity funds in the context of church law?

    -The script states that there is nothing in church law that forbids charity funds, as they are seen as an act of love and sacrifice, following the example of Jesus.

  • What is the script's stance on the use of words of endearment towards parishioners, especially women?

    -The script suggests that using words of endearment is part of Australian culture and is not inherently wrong, as long as it reflects politeness and kindness without implying any inappropriate relationship.

  • What is the script's view on clergy taking their congregation on tours to Jerusalem?

    -The script indicates that there is no church law forbidding a bishop from taking his congregation on tours to Jerusalem and visiting holy shrines.

  • What is the script's opinion on the use of modern technology like mobile phones and earphones by bishops?

    -The script suggests that there is no prohibition in church law against bishops using modern technology for communication or fulfilling their duties, although it mentions potential health hazards.

  • What is the script's reference to the Council of NAA and its relevance to the discussion?

    -The script refers to the Council of NAA and the first Universal Council convened by Emperor Constantine the Great to highlight that clergy can live with family members, such as a mother, according to Canon 3 of the council.

  • How does the script address the accusations against Mar Mary regarding attendance at prayers and services?

    -The script uses Canon 80 of the second Council of Constantinople to argue that clergy can be held accountable only if they miss Holy Mass for three weeks in a row, not for missing daily prayers.

Outlines

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🚫 Denial of Church Membership and Accusations Against Mar Mary

The speaker clarifies that they do not gossip but are compelled to address the situation involving a man named Robert Schon, who calls himself Mar Mary. Schon is accused of being non-affiliated with the Assyrian Church of the East and is not recognized by them. The speaker asserts that Schon's teachings are forbidden, and he is banned from entering their churches. Schon was previously ordained but later suspended. The speaker also discusses an email sent to the church's Holiness, addressing accusations against Mar Mary, including living arrangements, prayer attendance, and the use of a head covering called the baruna, which is defended as an ancient and acceptable practice.

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📜 Counterarguments to Accusations Against Mar Mary

The speaker provides detailed counterarguments to accusations leveled against Mar Mary. They reference historical and religious texts, including the Council of NAA and the first Universal Council convened by Emperor Constantine, to defend Mar Mary's right to live with his mother, attend prayers, and wear a baruna. The speaker also addresses accusations regarding the use of images of saints, charity work, social gatherings after Bible preaching, and the use of words of endearment, arguing that none of these are against church law. They also refute the claim that Mar Mary is forbidden from taking his congregation on tours or using modern technology, such as mobile phones.

10:03

📱 Modern Technology and Health Concerns in the Church

In the final paragraph, the speaker discusses the use of modern technology, specifically mobile phones and earphones, by church officials like bishops. They argue that there is no church law prohibiting the use of such technology for communication or fulfilling duties. However, they also raise a health concern about the potential hazards of using mobile phones directly against the ear, suggesting that this could lead to health problems.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Christianity

Christianity is a monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. In the video, Christianity is the context within which the main character, Mar Mary, is accused of speaking ill about the faith, indicating a conflict within the religious community.

💡Assyrian Church of the East

The Assyrian Church of the East is an ancient Christian church with its origins in the region of Mesopotamia. The script mentions that the character Robert Schon is not a member of this church and is not recognized by it, which is a key point in the conflict discussed in the video.

💡Ordination

Ordination is the process of being made a member of the Christian clergy. The script refers to Robert Schon being ordained by the ancient Church of the East, indicating his formal acceptance into the clergy, which is later revoked.

💡Defrocking

Defrocking is the removal of a member from the clergy, often due to misconduct. In the video, it is mentioned that Robert Schon was defrocked, which means he was suspended from his church and no longer belongs to it.

💡Canon Law

Canon Law refers to the body of laws and regulations made by ecclesiastical authority for the government of a Christian organization or church. The video discusses several points of canon law that are used to accuse Mar Mary of breaching church rules.

💡First Universal Council of NAA

The First Universal Council of NAA, also known as the Council of Nicaea, was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in 325 AD. The video cites this council's rules to argue that Mar Mary can live with his mother, as per the council's regulations.

💡Second Council of Constantinople

The Second Council of Constantinople was an ecumenical council of the Christian church held in 553 AD. The script uses this council's rules to argue that clergy can be held accountable for missing services, specifically Holy Mass, but not for daily prayers.

💡Baruna

Baruna, or head covering, is a traditional religious garment worn by clergy in some Christian denominations. The video defends the use of the baruna by Mar Mary, stating that it is an ancient practice of the Universal Church.

💡Charity

Charity refers to the act of giving help or alms to those in need, often associated with Christian values. The video refutes accusations against Mar Mary running a charity, stating that there is no church law forbidding charitable acts.

💡Endearment

Endearment refers to the expression of affection or fondness, often through words. The video discusses accusations against Mar Mary using words of endearment with his parishioners, arguing that such expressions are part of Australian culture and not inappropriate.

💡Mobile Phone

A mobile phone is a portable electronic device used for communication. The video mentions accusations against Mar Mary using a mobile phone and earphones, arguing that there is no church law forbidding the use of modern technology for communication or fulfilling duties.

Highlights

Robert Schon, also known as Mar Mary, is not a recognized member of the Assyrian Church of the East and is forbidden from entering its churches.

Schon was ordained by the ancient Church of the East but was later suspended.

An email was sent to His Holiness on August 15, 2014, addressing accusations and clarifying nine points.

Canon law does not prohibit clergy from living with their mothers, contrary to one of the accusations against Marari.

Clergy are not required to attend every morning and evening prayer in public daily, as per the second Council of Constantinople.

The use of the baruna or head covering by clergy, including Marari, is an ancient and accepted practice in the Universal Church.

There is no prohibition in church law against using images of saints in leaflets or church premises.

Charity funds are not forbidden by church law, and Jesus' life is cited as the ultimate charity.

There is no church law against having tea or coffee after Bible preaching, contrary to one of the accusations.

Using words of endearment towards parishioners, including women, is part of Australian culture and not against church law.

There is no church law forbidding bishops from taking their flock on tours to Jerusalem or waving the Australian flag.

The use of mobile phones and earphones by bishops, including for health reasons, is not prohibited by church law.

Marari's response to accusations includes references to historical and canonical precedents within the church.

The transcript emphasizes the importance of understanding and following the true teachings and laws of the church.

The discussion highlights the need for clear communication and adherence to church law in the resolution of disputes.

The transcript provides a detailed examination of the accusations against Marari, offering a point-by-point rebuttal.

The use of modern technology by clergy is presented as a practical tool for communication and fulfilling duties, not a violation of church law.

Transcripts

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I have no habit of talking about people

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but only I talk when I see someone

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talking

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ill about Christianity this man his name

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is he calls him himself Mar Mary but his

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name is Robert

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Schon he is not a member of the Assyrian

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Church of the East he's never been

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member of the Assyrian Church of the

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East we do not recognize his

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teaching we completely forbid him from

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entering into any of our

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churches he was ordained by the ancient

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Church of the east by Metropolitan

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maraku then he was def frogged it means

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he was

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suspended from his church now he doesn't

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belong to no church I sent an email

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today to his Holiness on the 15th of

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August

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2014 and a

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clarification and a reply to the nine

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points that is

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Holiness saying that I have

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breached the cannon laws of the church

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mobile phone what does that got to do

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with

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church Cal can

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laws assessment of the accusations

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according to church law number

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one his Holiness is saying that marari

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is supposedly not allowed to live with

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his

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mother he's not allowed to to live with

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his mother according to the canon law of

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the church I'm not allowed to live with

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my mother I have to live in the church

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premises well here is the reply to that

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point the Council of

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NAA the Council of NAA and the first

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Universal Council of the United

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Christian Church

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convened by

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Emperor Constantine the Great in the

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year 325 ad in the third rule of the

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council it is

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stated the great Council has forbidden

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generally any bishop or presor or Deacon

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and anyone else among those in the

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clergy the privilege of having a house

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made unless she is either a mother

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or a sister or an aunt or a person above

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suspicion Canon 3 of the first Universal

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Council of NAA I can live with my mom

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because the Nan the n and canon law is

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universal for Catholic Orthodox all

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churches all

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churches and I'm not sure if it's a

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crime to live with

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Mom number

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two that marari must supposedly attend

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every morning and evening prayer in

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public on a daily basis in the

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church his Holiness is saying that I am

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not attending prayers evening and

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Mornings in the church on a daily basis

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I have breached the Canon laws of the

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church the second second Council this is

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a reply to it the second Council of

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Constantinople declares in rule

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80 that a clergy man can only be held

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accountable if he is missing from the

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services I.E Holy Mass not daily

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praise if he be a clerk let him be

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deposed from office but if he be a

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Layman let him be removed from communion

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Canon 80 of the second Council of

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Constantinople but there is nothing

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mentioned if he's a clergyman let him be

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deposed from the church no

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mention and that's only if he misses the

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Holy Mass 3 weeks in a row I never

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have number

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three the accusation is that marari

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cannot wear the beruna or head

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covering the baruna this is the reply

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the baruna is a very or head covering is

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a very important head covering and it

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was also worn by the Assyrian holy monks

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of History like St a Aram St aim the

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great St Isaac of ninev and countless

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others of our beloved

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Church there is nothing odd or

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unacceptable about this because it is

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the ancient practice of The Universal

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Church

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[Music]

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another allegation that marari is

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forbidden to use images of saints in his

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leaflets or in

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church to clarify this point my

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beloveds marari is not the first clergy

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men to use images in leaflets or in

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church premises as previously and until

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now has been seen the use of images and

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also

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statues let them take the statue of the

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holy mother from the church of mother

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Mary in

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Melbourne and let them take all the

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pictures and icons of saints and crosses

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in the magazine that comes from Baghdad

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Iraq itself where the patriarch

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resides under the name of UPA The

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Horizon

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why is marmari now all of a sudden a law

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breaker another another accusation that

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marmari is is forbidden to run a charity

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to help those in

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need there is nothing now listen to this

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there is nothing in church

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law that forbids charity

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funds none whatsoever because

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Jesus he gave his life as a

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charity to

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win souls for eternal

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life he sacrificed his

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life there is nothing in church law that

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forbids charity

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funds another

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accusation that marari is forbidden from

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being in church hall for tea or coffee

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after Bible preach so-called dinners and

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[Music]

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parties there is nothing in church law

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it is not a cannon law what does that

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got to do with having a

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coffee there is nothing in church law to

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validate this accusation in fact

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Servants of the word and of the table is

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biblical my beloved refer to the book of

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Acts 6: 2

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it's biblical if

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anything another accusation that marari

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is forbidden to use words of endearment

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to members of his Parish especially

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women do you know what endearment

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means these kind of

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words words of endearment are part of

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Australian culture

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anyway and they do not reflect any real

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relationship but are used even to

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complete to complete but are used even

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to complete strangers to show politeness

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and kindness of heart there is nothing

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wrong with calling people darling

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sweetie or any such other term God calls

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us to be loving honorable human beings

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not to be coldhearted miserable

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wretches another accusation that marari

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is forbidden to take his flock on tours

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to Jerusalem or to wave the Australian

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flag with them in the lanes in the lanes

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of the holy

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city there is nothing absolutely nothing

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in church law that forbids a bishop from

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taking his flock on a guided T through

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the holy city and the holy shrines of

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Jerusalem number nine and the last

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accusation that marari is forbidden to

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use a mobile phone and an

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earphone there is nothing

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there is nothing in the church law that

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forbids a bishop from using Mo modern

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technology such as mobile phones or

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earphones in order to communicate with

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his flock or to fulfill his duties as a

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bishop

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also also as a health hazard placing the

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mobile phone on one's ear can lead to

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health problems

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