5 Benefits of Collagen that Experts got WRONG (ignore the hype)
Summary
TLDRThe speaker addresses and debunks five misconceptions about collagen supplements, emphasizing their unique benefits backed by scientific studies. They clarify that collagen peptides act as signaling molecules, unlike other proteins, and are crucial for bone health and cartilage repair. The video dispels myths about collagen's interaction with caffeine and the necessity of vitamin C for absorption, highlighting its role as a co-factor in collagen formation. The speaker also discusses the differences between marine and bovine collagen, advocating for the latter due to stronger literature support. Lastly, they promote the brand Bub's Naturals for its purity and philanthropic mission, while advocating for a balanced approach combining whole foods and supplementation for optimal collagen intake.
Takeaways
- 🧬 Collagen peptides have a unique role as signaling molecules that help the body form and restructure collagen, unlike other proteins.
- 🦴 Studies show that collagen supplementation can increase bone mineral density and is absorbed intestinally and accumulated in cartilage, emphasizing its specific benefits.
- ☕ Adding collagen to coffee could be beneficial, contrary to some beliefs, as it may help offset the potential collagen-degrading effects of caffeine.
- 🍊 Vitamin C is crucial for collagen formation but does not need to be taken with collagen supplements for absorption; it acts as a co-factor in the process.
- 🥩 Whole food sources of collagen, like meat and gristle, are important and can work synergistically with supplements, but supplements can rapidly increase collagen levels in the body.
- 🐟 Marine collagen is often marketed as superior to bovine collagen, but the evidence suggests bovine collagen is more thermally stable and has stronger supporting literature.
- 💊 The brand Bub's Naturals is highlighted for its purity and social mission, donating a portion of proceeds to charity in honor of a fallen Navy SEAL.
- 🔬 The script emphasizes the importance of scientific evidence when evaluating the benefits of collagen supplements, debunking common myths.
- 🚫 The idea that collagen is the same as other proteins and can be replaced by general protein intake is debunked by specific studies on collagen peptides.
- 📈 The absorption and effectiveness of collagen are not as simple as turning into a pool of amino acids; the peptides have specific signaling roles in the body.
- 💰 Marine collagen is more expensive than bovine collagen, and while it may be easier to digest for some, the current literature suggests bovine collagen is more effective.
Q & A
What is the main topic discussed in the video script?
-The main topic discussed in the video script is the debunking of misconceptions surrounding collagen supplements and their benefits.
Why does the speaker want to debunk misconceptions about collagen?
-The speaker wants to debunk misconceptions because there is strong scientific literature supporting the benefits of collagen, and they believe that social media hype is leading to misinformation.
What is one of the misconceptions mentioned about collagen being the same as other proteins?
-The misconception is that consuming enough protein and amino acids will naturally lead to the formation of collagen. However, the speaker explains that collagen peptides act as signaling molecules that help the body form collagen properly.
How does collagen supplementation affect bone mineral density according to the study mentioned in the script?
-According to a study in the Journal of Bone Metabolism, collagen supplementation led to increased bone mineral density in the neck compared to a placebo or other protein sources.
What does the speaker say about the absorption of collagen supplementation?
-The speaker mentions a study published in Current Medical Research and Opinion that found collagen supplementation is absorbed intestinally and then accumulates in the cartilage, indicating it doesn't just turn into a pool of amino acids.
What is the common myth about adding collagen to coffee due to caffeine?
-The common myth is that caffeine negatively affects how collagen works in the body, implying that adding collagen to coffee would be detrimental. However, the speaker argues that the science is weak and that adding collagen to coffee could potentially offset any degradation caused by caffeine.
What is the speaker's stance on the necessity of taking Vitamin C with collagen?
-The speaker states that Vitamin C is critical for collagen formation but is not required to be taken with collagen for absorption purposes. Vitamin C acts as a co-factor in the body to help with gene expression for forming collagen.
Why does the speaker recommend the collagen supplement brand Bub's Naturals?
-The speaker recommends Bub's Naturals because it is a high-quality product with 20 grams of collagen per serving, and it supports a charitable cause in honor of Glenn Doty, a Navy SEAL.
What is the difference between marine collagen and bovine collagen as discussed in the script?
-Marine collagen is predominantly type one collagen and contains about 30% less hydroxyproline, making it less thermally stable. Bovine collagen is predominantly type two and three and is more stable in hot drinks like coffee.
Why does the speaker suggest that whole food sources of collagen might be better than supplements alone?
-The speaker suggests that whole food sources of collagen are beneficial because they provide a full food matrix that may contain other nutrients, minerals, and compounds that help with the assimilation of collagen.
What is the speaker's final recommendation regarding collagen supplementation?
-The speaker's final recommendation is to consume collagen both through whole food sources like meat and gristle, and through supplementation to get the benefits of rapid absorption and higher blood levels of collagen.
Outlines
🧬 Debunking Misconceptions About Collagen Supplements
This paragraph addresses the recent social media trend of skepticism towards collagen supplements. The speaker aims to debunk five common myths. First, they clarify that collagen is distinct from other proteins and that consuming collagen peptides specifically signals the body to produce collagen. Studies from 'Nutrients' and 'Journal of Bone Metabolism' are cited to support this claim. The speaker also refutes the idea that adding collagen to coffee negates its benefits due to caffeine, arguing that the supposed negative effects of caffeine on collagen are minimal and that collagen can offset any potential degradation. Additionally, the paragraph discusses the role of vitamin C in collagen formation, emphasizing its importance as a co-factor rather than a direct influence on collagen absorption. The speaker shares personal anecdotes about varying collagen intake based on perceived needs and endorses a specific brand, Bub Naturals, for its purity and connection to a charitable cause.
📚 Insights on Collagen Supplement Quality and Sources
The second paragraph focuses on the quality of collagen supplements and the sources from which they are derived. The speaker provides a promotional discount for Bub Naturals, a brand with a military connection and a portion of proceeds going to charity. From a scientific perspective, the speaker praises Bub Naturals for offering one of the purest forms of collagen on the market, with 20 grams per serving and no additives. The paragraph also addresses the comparison between marine and bovine collagen, noting that while marine collagen is often more expensive and potentially easier to digest for some, the literature currently favors bovine collagen due to its thermal stability and abundance of research. Lastly, the speaker discusses the benefits of consuming collagen through whole foods versus supplementation, advocating for a balanced approach that includes both for optimal collagen intake and health.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Collagen
💡Collagen Peptides
💡Amino Acids
💡Bone Mineral Density
💡Cartilage
💡Caffeine
💡Vitamin C
💡Gastric Emptying Time
💡Marine Collagen
💡Bovine Collagen
💡Whole Food
Highlights
Collagen peptides act as signaling molecules to help the body form collagen.
Study in Nutrients found collagen peptides signal proper formation of collagen.
Collagen supplementation increases bone mineral density, as per the Journal of Bone Metabolism.
Collagen is absorbed intestinally and accumulates in cartilage, according to Current Medical Research and Opinion.
Adding collagen to coffee may be beneficial despite concerns about caffeine's effects.
Caffeine's impact on collagen production is weakly supported by science.
Vitamin C is critical for collagen formation but does not affect its absorption.
Vitamin C might actually hurt absorption by increasing gastric emptying time.
Vitamin C is a co-factor in the gene expression for forming collagen.
Bubs Naturals collagen supplement is highly recommended for its quality and charity support.
Bovine collagen is more thermally stable and better for hot drinks compared to marine collagen.
Marine collagen is more expensive and may be easier to digest for some people.
Literature supports bovine collagen over marine due to stronger evidence.
Consuming collagen supplements can rapidly increase collagen levels in the body.
Whole food matrix is important for assimilation, suggesting a combination of meat and collagen is beneficial.
Supplementation is ideal for increasing serum collagen levels.
Transcripts
oh my gosh the collagen hype that's out
there right now or should I say like the
reverse
hype social media is getting interesting
where people just want to talk about
anything to get attention so now there's
like whole slew of people that are
fighting collagen and collagen is one of
the most
like strongest literature behind it like
it's so strong anyhow I want to debunk
five really weird things that are
floating around right now the first is
that collagen is the same as other
proteins and that if you uh just get
enough protein and get enough amino
acids you're going to have you're going
to have collagen there was a study in
nutrients that looked at this it
specifically found that when you consume
collagen peptides the collagen peptides
themselves they act as signaling
molecules to help the body start to form
collagen and restructure The Matrix and
do what they need to do to actually work
as collagen no doubt there are amino
acids Proline Glycine hydroxyproline and
you're going to get those from meat too
but when you consume it in a collagen
peptide form the peptides themselves
also signal the proper formation there's
a study in Journal of bone metabolism
found that collagen supplementation led
to increased bone mineral density in the
neck compared to Placebo or other
protein sources so you're actually
getting more in the right spot then
there was another study published in
current medical research and opinion
found that collagen supplementation was
absorbed intestinally but then
accumulated in the cartilage
okay it doesn't just turn into a magical
pool of amino acids otherwi the body's
not that simple when we eat things they
signal different things and peptides
signal this response and obviously
they're going to go where needed the
next one is one that's really important
because there's a lot of nuance there
people are saying don't add collagen to
your coffee because caffeine negatively
affects how collagen works in the body
there is some truth to this but adding
collagen to your coffee would actually
be beneficial icial because the issues
with caffeine and it's candidly pretty
weak science it's not super strong is
that caffeine slows down the collagen
production so it degrades kind of the
collagen in the body so the concern is
that when you drink coffee is it adding
more wrinkles is it degrading your skin
faster there's a little bit of evidence
there it has nothing to do with the
absorption of collagen as a matter of
fact adding collagen to your coffee in
theory would help offset the degradation
because you're adding collagen back and
if caffeine degrades collagen then
wouldn't you want to add collagen it's
like saying I'm not going to drink a
protein
shake because it's protein and working
out breaks down protein so if I work out
I'm not going to drink a protein shake
because I just broke down protein
there's makes no logic it makes no sense
it's actually like oh I broke down
protein in the gym in my muscles muscle
protein breakdown I should drink a
protein shake to offset it so if you
drink C caffeine and it theoretically
causes wrinkles then maybe you should
add collagen to offset that potential
issue the next up is the whole vitamin C
thing vitamin C is imperative for
collagen formation absolutely critical
but you do not need to take Vitamin C
with your collagen okay it doesn't
affect the absorption okay this is
intestinal this is different if anything
vitamin C might actually hurt absorption
in some ways because vitamin C can kind
of increase gastric emptying time I
doubt that that's ever really a concern
but the point is is Vitamin C it's more
about your consistent levels of vitamin
C like it's not required for collagen to
absorb the other flip side of this is
that you can't just take vitamin C and
magically form collagen you still need
to have the aminos present you still
need to get the collagen in you need to
at the very least get the abundance of
amino acids in okay so if you have
enough vitamin C and you're not getting
adequate collagen or protein
you're not going to form collagen it is
a co-actor and it helps the gene
expression so when you consume collagen
and it acts as a signal and starts the
gene expression for forming collagen and
forming these proper matrixes in the
body vitamin C comes in as a co-factor
then and only then to help signal the
proper building so vitamin C is very
very very very very important the only
time you see like the direct impact is
when vitamin C like serum goes on the
skin because then it can help draw
collagen formation there but when you
ingest vitamin C it's going into your
whole body it's not just going to one
spot and for the record like I don't
even take collagen every day I take
collagen when I feel like my body's more
broken down and I know people that take
it every single day I know people that
add it to their coffee and then also add
it to a smoothie and then also have it
before bed and I go through when I have
an injury I increase my dose of it and I
don't know it seems to help the one that
I use is one called bubs Naturals and I
stand behind them for a couple of
reasons hear me out first of all there
is a 20% off discount link so that link
down below using Code Thomas 20 does get
you 20% off for those that are thinking
money forward I get it okay that Link's
below but this company is all good stuff
and if you know me you know that I work
with special operations I work with the
military and this whole brand was all
about supporting and in honor of Glenn
Doty whose call sign was bub as a Navy
SEAL okay so when he died his friend
Sean created this brand because they
wanted to support him so now 10% of all
the proceeds go to charity in Glen Do's
name so it is a heck of a message that I
can get behind but then from the science
perspective it's probably the purest
college and you're going to find on the
market we're talking 20 grams in serving
so good quality stuff there's nothing
else added to it just good quality B
Vine collagen so that link is down below
again use code Thomas 20 gets you 20%
off and a big thank you to B and thank
you to Sea and thank you to Glenn for
giving his life for this country that
link is down below the next one I have
to debunk and it's unfortunate because I
know some of these really good brands
make versions of this it is the Marine
collagen being a better version of
bovine collagen like it's better
different kinds but they're very similar
now Marine collagen is predominantly
type one collagen whereas Bine is
predominantly type two and three what
does that really mean nothing that's
super important for this video the the
point is is that Marine collagen is
about 30% less hydroxyproline so it's
actually less thermally stable so it's
not something you want to add to coffee
right bovine collagen is more stable in
like hot coffee things like that there
is some evidence that Marine collagen
might be easier to digest for some
people okay so if you are really
sensitive and have an issue with bovine
collagen then Marine collagen might have
a place the difference is as you can
imagine Marine collagen is expensive
it's very expensive compared compared to
bovine collagen now there are some
Brands out there that are like trying to
mix them a little bit and you're still
having to pay that extra price for it so
although I don't have anything negative
to say about Marine collagen it works
just fine right now the literature seems
to be stronger towards Bine and it might
just be because there's simply more
literature available but at this point
in time you might want to save the cash
and the fifth one is one that I have to
have a serious caveat to because believe
me I would much rather absolutely much
rather you eat meat and eat ground meat
and get your gristle and get all that
in it's not necessarily the fact that
collagen is absorbed better with meat in
its Whole Food form people will say you
got to eat meat instead of consuming a
collagen supplement I get that I hear
that I respect that but if you want to
get collagen in there is evidence that
supports collagen supplementation as
being a more rapidly absorb
and a way to get your collagen levels
higher faster so if you're recovering
from injury and you really want to get
collagen levels High supplementation is
probably the optimal way that being said
whenever possible I eat ground beef and
get the gristle I eat the tough parts of
meat and I get the collagen in that way
because the food Matrix is important
that full food Matrix perhaps when we
consume meat and collagen together we're
getting other nutrients and minerals and
compounds and co-actors and enzymes and
everything that's in that food Matrix
that helps us assimilate all the things
better the collagen maybe helps us get
the meat more the meat maybe helps us
get the collagen more maybe the collagen
helps with the torine maybe the toine
helps with the iron maybe the you get
what I'm saying they all work
synergistically so a supplement in
isolation is not ideal from a whole food
perspective but it is ideal from a serum
collagen level perspective so getting
your blood levels of collagen and
getting those pepti high for that signal
yeah supplementation makes sense you
want the best answer eat the meat and
take the supplement as always keep it
locked in here in my channel I'll see
you tomorrow I have to
sneeze okay
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