What is ultra-processed food and what does it mean for your health? | BBC News
Summary
TLDRThe discussion focuses on the rising concern over ultra-processed foods (UPFs), which make up around 60% of modern diets. Dr. Chris Tal, a physician and researcher, explains the harmful effects of UPFs, which contain ingredients not typically found in home kitchens and contribute to poor health outcomes. He criticizes the lack of regulation in countries like the UK and highlights how low-income communities are disproportionately affected. Tal advocates for clearer labeling and making healthier, real foods more affordable. He also emphasizes the need for independent scientific advisory committees free from corporate influence.
Takeaways
- 🍽️ Ultra-processed foods (UPFs) make up around 60% of diets, and there is concern over their health impacts.
- 📜 UPFs lack a universally settled definition but typically include ingredients not commonly found in home kitchens, such as stabilizers, emulsifiers, and flavorings.
- ⚠️ There is a distinction between processed foods, which have been part of human diets for centuries, and UPFs, which are industrially processed and profit-driven.
- 🌍 The marketing of baby food in low-income countries has been linked to infant deaths due to improper preparation, shifting the focus of health research to the impact of large companies on global health.
- 📊 Studies linking UPFs to poor health have been conducted globally, particularly in countries like Mexico, Argentina, and Brazil, which saw spikes in diet-related diseases after adopting North American diets.
- 🔍 Despite claims by the food industry, there is a settled definition of UPFs endorsed by organizations like the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization.
- 🧪 Experimental evidence from institutions like UCL shows strong links between UPFs and negative health outcomes, surpassing the threshold for causality.
- 💡 UPFs are often high in salt, sugar, and fat, and though these are considered problematic, regulation on these ingredients in foods remains minimal in the UK.
- 🍞 Items like white bread and oat milk are also classified as UPFs due to their inclusion of industrial additives, although they may have some nutritional benefits.
- 💰 The challenge remains that UPFs are cheaper and more accessible than healthier food options, driving a need for warning labels and policies that lower the cost of real, nutritious food.
Q & A
What are ultra-processed foods (UPFs)?
-Ultra-processed foods (UPFs) are industrially processed foods that contain ingredients not typically used in home cooking, such as stabilizers, emulsifiers, and flavorings. Examples include ready meals, pot noodles, sliced bread, and oat milk.
Why are UPFs considered harmful to health?
-UPFs are linked to poor health because they often contain high levels of salt, sugar, and fat, which are known to contribute to diet-related diseases. Additionally, some additives used exclusively in UPFs may have negative health effects.
What motivated Dr. Chris Tal to investigate ultra-processed foods?
-As an infectious disease doctor, Dr. Chris Tal's experience in humanitarian emergencies in Pakistan and Africa exposed him to the negative impacts of commercial baby food marketing, which led him to focus on how big companies affect nutrition, particularly in low-income communities.
What is the difference between processed and ultra-processed foods?
-Processed foods have been altered for preservation or preparation, such as cooking or fermenting, and are part of traditional diets. Ultra-processed foods, on the other hand, are industrially manufactured with additives and are designed to be highly profitable.
How do ultra-processed foods affect low-income communities in different parts of the world?
-In low-income countries, UPFs are often marketed aggressively, leading to poor health outcomes, especially among the poor. For example, in Latin America, the introduction of an American-style diet has caused a surge in diet-related diseases.
Is there a settled definition of ultra-processed foods?
-Yes, there is a well-established definition of ultra-processed foods, endorsed by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and supported by various governments and research studies. This definition highlights the presence of industrial additives not used in home cooking.
What criticisms does Dr. Tal have regarding government regulations on UPFs?
-Dr. Tal criticizes the lack of effective regulation on UPFs in countries like the UK, where food industry influence is strong. He calls for independent government scientific committees free from food industry ties and suggests policies like warning labels and making healthier food more affordable.
Why does Dr. Tal believe current studies are sufficient to prove UPFs cause health issues?
-Dr. Tal argues that existing studies from reputable institutions like Harvard and Cambridge provide strong experimental evidence linking UPFs to health problems. He is also conducting a randomized control trial at University College London to further support this claim.
How are additives in UPFs harmful to health?
-Certain additives found only in UPFs, like stabilizers and emulsifiers, can negatively affect health. For instance, additives in some types of bread may 'scrub out' the gut, disrupting healthy gut bacteria.
How does Dr. Tal suggest addressing the affordability issue of healthier food options?
-Dr. Tal believes that real, unprocessed foods need to be made more affordable and accessible. While drawing lessons from tobacco regulation, he suggests starting with warning labels and implementing policies to reduce the cost of healthy foods.
Outlines
🍞 Debating Ultra-Processed Foods and Their Impact on Health
The script opens with a discussion about the growing global debates around ultra-processed foods (UPF), which constitute about 60% of modern diets. Though there is no universally settled definition, UPFs are generally identified by the presence of ingredients not commonly used in home cooking, such as stabilizers and emulsifiers. These foods, ranging from ready meals to sliced bread, have been linked to poor health in various studies. Chris Tal, a doctor, scientist, and journalist, has been vocal about the dangers of UPFs, and he emphasizes that their industrial processing for profit distinguishes them from traditional processed foods.
🌍 The Global Impact of Ultra-Processed Foods on Health
Chris Tal explains his personal journey into researching ultra-processed foods, which started during his work as an infectious disease doctor in humanitarian emergencies. He observed children in low-income regions dying due to the unsafe preparation of baby food, which shifted his focus to the commercial determinants of health. He now works with the WHO and UNICEF on issues related to how large companies affect nutrition, particularly in low-income communities. He highlights how industrial food production has harmful health effects, especially for vulnerable populations.
📜 Defining Ultra-Processed Foods – Misconceptions and Clarifications
Tal refutes the claim that there is no clear definition of ultra-processed foods, stating that a very settled definition exists, backed by studies and agreed upon by several governments. He explains that if a product contains ingredients unfamiliar in a domestic kitchen, such as stabilizers or flavorings, it is most likely ultra-processed. He stresses that UPFs differ significantly from traditionally processed foods, which have been part of healthy diets for centuries. UPFs, he argues, are designed for profitability and often exploit low-income communities.
🍽️ The Nutrition Transition and Its Effects on Global Health
Chris Tal discusses the 'nutrition transition' seen in Latin American countries like Mexico and Brazil after the introduction of the North American diet. This shift resulted in a spike in diet-related diseases, prompting these countries to regulate the food industry more strictly. In contrast, the UK is lagging behind in regulating unhealthy foods. Tal criticizes the lack of food regulations and highlights how dietary shifts, driven by profit motives, contribute to health crises in both high-income and low-income nations.
🧪 The Debate Between Correlation and Causation in UPF Research
Tal addresses the scientific debate on whether the health risks associated with UPFs are merely correlative or causative. He points to high-quality studies conducted by prestigious institutions like UCL, Cambridge, Harvard, and Yale, which offer experimental evidence supporting the harmful effects of UPF additives. He also reveals conflicts of interest within government advisory committees, many of whose members have ties to the food industry. Tal calls for independent scientific assessments free from industry influence to better inform public health policies.
🚫 Misleading Regulation Focus – Moving Beyond Salt, Fat, and Sugar
Tal critiques the current focus of food regulations, which primarily target salt, fat, and sugar, and notes the lack of substantial measures to control these elements in UPFs. He argues that while these components are harmful, UPFs as a category should be more stringently regulated due to their harmful additives and their role in promoting unhealthy dietary habits. Tal also discusses the food industry’s pervasive influence on public health messaging, drawing comparisons to the way tobacco regulations have evolved over time.
🍞 Common Ultra-Processed Foods: Are Bread and Oat Milk Included?
In response to concerns that common items like sliced bread and oat milk are categorized as ultra-processed, Tal explains that supermarket bread often contains additives that strip away health benefits, such as the emulsifier DATEM. While bread is a source of fiber, its processed variants are typically high in sugar, salt, and energy density. Tal argues that even seemingly healthy UPFs, like bread or fish fingers, are nutritionally compromised due to the additives they contain.
💸 Affordability and Accessibility of Real Food
The discussion concludes with Tal acknowledging the economic challenge of moving away from ultra-processed foods, which are cheaper and more accessible to lower-income populations. He advocates for the implementation of warning labels on UPFs, drawing lessons from tobacco policy while emphasizing the need to make real, unprocessed food more affordable and available for everyone. Tal's final point underscores the importance of tackling the root economic barriers to healthy eating.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Ultra-Processed Foods
💡Commercial Determinants of Health
💡Additives
💡Nutrition Transition
💡Observational Studies
💡Causality
💡Global South
💡Diet-Related Disease
💡Tobacco Policy Comparison
💡Food Industry Influence
Highlights
Ultra-processed foods make up around 60% of our diets, with no settled definition, but generally contain ingredients not found in home cooking.
Ultra-processed foods range from ready meals and pot noodles to sliced bread and oat milk.
Some studies have suggested a link between ultra-processed food and poor health outcomes.
Chris Tal, a doctor and scientist, argues that ultra-processed foods cause a range of health problems and has written a book about the topic.
Chris shifted his focus from infectious diseases to commercial determinants of health, particularly in infant and adult nutrition.
There is a settled definition of ultra-processed foods, according to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, used by governments like France and Israel.
Ultra-processed foods are defined by the presence of ingredients like stabilizers, emulsifiers, and flavorings not found in domestic kitchens.
Ultra-processed foods are distinct from processed foods, which have been part of human diets for millions of years.
Ultra-processed foods are industrially processed, aimed at maximizing profit, and often extract resources from low-income communities.
The rise of diet-related diseases in Latin America is linked to the influx of ultra-processed foods following trade deals like NAFTA.
In the UK, there is minimal regulation of unhealthy foods, unlike countries like Mexico and Brazil.
Some government scientists claim that studies on ultra-processed foods are observational and may show correlation rather than causation.
Chris argues that experimental evidence, especially on additives in ultra-processed foods, supports causality between these foods and health issues.
The food industry heavily influences government advisory committees on nutrition, which can skew their findings.
Chris advocates for warning labels on ultra-processed foods, drawing parallels to tobacco regulation, and calls for making real food more affordable and accessible.
Transcripts
now there's been a lot of debates around
the world about ultr processed foods the
consumer group witch says they make up
around 60% of our diets so what exactly
are they well there's no settled
definition but generally they contain
ingredients not used in home cooking but
that's a wide range from ready meals and
pot noodles to even sliced bread and oat
milk well some Studies have suggested
there's a link between Ultra processed
food and poor health well someone who's
been sounding the alarm about ultr
processed food is Chris tal a doctor
scientist and journalist and you've been
arguing haven't you uh that they cause a
whole range of problems for us um you
also written a book which is being
released in paperback about
ultra-processed food tell me a bit more
about why you decided to look into it
because you're an infectious disease
doctor what is it about Ultra processed
food that made you kind of sit up and
take note so as a young doctor in I
worked a lot in complex humanitarian
emergencies in Pakistan and in central
Africa and the kids that I saw die
mainly of diarrheal disease died because
they were being marketed baby food that
their parents couldn't afford they
couldn't read the instructions and they
had no clean water to make it up and so
my research switched from looking at
bugs and viruses to looking at what we
call the commercial determinance of
health and that's what I work with the
World Health Organization and Unicef on
is is how big companies affect Health
particularly infant nutrition and adult
nutrition talk me through UPF 7 at home
watching this what is what is an ultr
processed food so you said in your in
your beginning there your excellent
beginning that there was no settled
definition there was a very very settled
definition of what an ultra processed
food is it's housed on the United
Nations food and agriculture
organization website it's been used in
hundreds of excellent studies it's
agreed on by the governments of France
Israel Belgium blame produc no no no no
no no this is a common misconception put
about by the food industry that there
isn't a subtle definition it boils down
to if you're reading an ingredients list
and there's something on there that you
don't normally find in a domestic
kitchen a stabilizer and emulsify a
flavoring the product is almost
certainly Ultra processed and ultr
processed foods are distinct
from processed foods humans have been
processing food for millions of years we
have to process off food we have to cook
it and salt it and grind it and smoke it
and ferment it in order to make up
traditional diets that are associated
with very good health Ultra processed
food is industrially processed and its
purpose is to make profit and it's very
extractive it's extractive from
low-income communities in the UK and
from low-income communities in in the
global South and in low-income countries
is there a difference there then because
in places like the global South are you
less likely as a person with less income
to eat ultr processed food than you are
say in the UK or in America so what
we've seen in Latin and and Latin
America is this incredible nutrition
transition and it followed the North
American free trade de deal where an
American diet suddenly went into Mexico
Argentina Brazil and there was an
explosion of diet related disease and so
those are the countries that have
started to get a handle on how to
regulate this industry in the UK we are
just so far behind there is there is
functionally no regulation of unhealthy
food however you define it in this
country government scientists who've
looked into this say that there are in
their words observational studies only
yeah to go on that this could be a
question more of you know correlation
but not necessarily causation what's
your argument against that so I have
academic I'm I'm at University College
London where you went and uh I have
excellent colleagues at Cambridge
Harvard Yale Princeton these are
excellent studies but more than that we
have very very good experimental
evidence both about additives that are
exclusively used in ultr processed food
and about the food itself and I'm
running a big randomized control trial
at the moment at UCL the evidence has
far far passed the threshold for what we
cause call causality the government
scientific advisory committee on
nutrition who released that statement I
think you're quoting from them has 14
members around half of them are funded
by companies like and including
Coca-Cola so the food industry has a
near tootal grip on the messaging and
one of the things I'm trying to ask for
is that our government scientific
advisory committee should be independent
of the industry that we know drives diet
related disease because the truth is it
doesn't actually enormously matter how
you define the food when it comes to
regulation at the moment the scientific
advisory committee on nutrition thinks
that salt fat and sugar are the problems
that's fine ultrapress food one of the
ways it harms the human body is very
high in Salt Fat and sugar typically um
we don't regulate Salt Fat and sugar we
have a little bit of uh sugar tax on
some soft drinks but it's not widespread
there are no warnings on packets if you
think of the difference between harmful
food and cigarettes there's an enor
there's you know G but ultr processed
food is also including things like for
example sliced bread you know things
like oat milk how can those things be
classed in the same category as say for
example chocolate I mean surely white
bread has benefits as well Well Bread
does have some benefits it's a source of
fiber we eat much more of it and when
you eat generally it's Supermarket bread
that will had have additives like mono
and diacetal tartaric acid esters of
mono and diglycerides of fatty acids so
that's called datim most common in malif
fire now we have evidence that that sort
of Scrubs out the gut the bread is
incredibly soft it's almost invariably
very high in sugar and very high in salt
and extremely high in energy density and
it's the foundation of our British diet
so actually uh whether we're talking
about beans or fish fingers or
Supermarket bread these are some of the
healthiest things that we eat in the UK
and yet they are almost all very high in
fat very high in salt and very high in
sugar but very briefly we're running out
of time these foods are cheaper you know
so what do you say to someone who's
saying like I can't afford to to eat
anything else we can't just copy base
tobacco policy we need to learn from
tobacco policy but the most important
thing is you start with warning labels
and we have to drive down the price of
real food and make it affordable and
available for everyone okay Chris it's
good to have you on the show thank you
very much ID your book's out in
paperback is it not it is thank you very
much
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