Marvel Prepare For Lots Of Cancelled X-Men Comics

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15 Sept 202415:18

Summary

TLDRMarvel Comics has announced 13 new ongoing series, four mini-series, and a one-shot, indicating a shift in their X-Men line-up. The one-shot, 'Time Slide,' features time-traveling mutants Bishop and Cable. Additionally, 'Rogue: The Savage Land' and 'Magic' series are set to debut, with the latter being Magic's first solo series. Despite the announcements, skepticism remains over the longevity of these titles, as Marvel's recent track record suggests many may not last. The discussion also touches on the potential impact of the '90s X-Men cartoon on current comic storylines.

Takeaways

  • 📚 Marvel Comics has announced 13 new ongoing series, four mini-series, and one shot, indicating a significant shift in their X-Men lineup.
  • 🔥 There's a sense of uncertainty as many current X-Men titles like 'NYX', 'Exceptional X-Men', 'X-Factor', 'Phoenix', 'Mystique', and 'Sentinel' are rumored to be canceled or facing low sales.
  • 🕰 'Time Slide', a year-ending one-shot featuring time-traveling X-Men characters Bishop and Cable, is set to launch on December 25th, continuing the concept of 'Timeless' books.
  • 🎨 The 'Time Slide' one-shot is written by Steve Fox and illustrated by Ivan Ferelli, with a focus on high-stakes missions and previews of upcoming Marvel events.
  • 🌐 'Rogue: The Savage Land' is a new limited series that revisits the early 90s comic era, exploring Rogue's adventures in the Savage Land with writer Tim Seeley and artist Zulema Scott.
  • 🧙‍♀️ 'Wanda', a new ongoing series focusing on the character's solo adventures, is set to debut on January 8th, written by Ashley Anto and illustrated by Amman Peralta.
  • 🌨 There's a notable trend of Marvel launching multiple solo titles featuring female characters, with 'Magic' being the latest to receive an ongoing series.
  • ❄️ 'Magic' will delve into the character's tragic history and her struggle with her dark child persona, with a setting in Alaska facing ancient evils beneath the ice.
  • 🤔 There's skepticism about the longevity and success of these new series, especially given Marvel's history of canceling titles and the perceived lack of innovation in their storytelling.
  • 🔄 The strategy of Marvel seems to be a continuous cycle of launching new titles to replace canceled ones, reflecting a struggle to find a formula that resonates with readers.

Q & A

  • How many new ongoing series and one-shots has Marvel Comics announced recently?

    -Marvel Comics has announced 13 new ongoing series, four mini-series, and one one-shot.

  • What is the name of the year-ending one-shot featuring the X-Men's time-traveling soldiers?

    -The name of the year-ending one-shot is 'Time Slide'.

  • Who are the writers and artists for the 'Time Slide' one-shot?

    -The 'Time Slide' one-shot is written by Steve Fox and features art by Ivan Ferelli.

  • What is the concept behind the 'Time Slide' one-shot?

    -The 'Time Slide' one-shot follows the X-Men's time-traveling soldiers, Bishop and Cable, as they prevent a villain from eliminating mutant kind from history.

  • What is the release date for the 'Time Slide' one-shot?

    -The 'Time Slide' one-shot is set to launch into comic shops on December 25th.

  • What is the premise of the new limited series 'Rogue: The Savage Land'?

    -The new limited series 'Rogue: The Savage Land' focuses on Rogue's journey through the Savage Land, a hidden land populated by dinosaurs and ancient mammals.

  • Who are the creative team behind 'Rogue: The Savage Land'?

    -The series is written by Tim Seeley and features art by Zulema Scott Lavina, marking her Marvel debut.

  • What is the significance of the setting in 'Rogue: The Savage Land'?

    -The series takes place between Uncanny X-Men issues 269 and 275, revisiting a storyline from the early 90s.

  • What is the title of the first-ever ongoing solo series for the character Magic?

    -The title of Magic's first-ever ongoing solo series is simply 'Magic'.

  • Who is the writer and artist for Magic's solo series?

    -The series is written by Ashley Allen and illustrated by Amman Peralta.

  • What is the central theme of Magic's solo series?

    -The series revolves around Magic dealing with her tragic history and learning to control her demonic dark child persona while facing ancient evils beneath the Alaskan ice.

Outlines

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📚 Marvel Comics Announces New Series and One-Shot

Marvel Comics has announced 13 new ongoing series, four mini-series, and a one-shot, indicating a significant shift in their comic book lineup. Titles like 'NYX', 'Exceptional X-Men', 'X-Factor', 'Phoenix', 'Mystique', and 'Sentinel' are mentioned as potentially not lasting long. The announcement of 'Time Slide', a year-ending one-shot featuring time-traveling X-Men characters Bishop and Cable, is highlighted. This one-shot is meant to provide a sneak peek into upcoming events and new characters. The script criticizes the choice of writer Steve Fox, who has a history of inconsistent storytelling, and expresses disappointment that the one-shot format does not allow for a more in-depth exploration of the characters and their adventures.

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🦁 'Rogue: The Savage Land' Limited Series and 'Wolverine' Solo Series

A new limited series titled 'Rogue: The Savage Land' is announced, written by Tim Seeley and featuring art by Zulema Lavina, marking her Marvel debut. The series is set between 'Uncanny X-Men' issues 269 and 275, revisiting Rogue's time in the Savage Land, a hidden land filled with dinosaurs and ancient mammals. The script expresses skepticism about the series, comparing it unfavorably to previous 'Uncanny X-Men' storylines by Chris Claremont and Jim Lee. Additionally, a new ongoing 'Wolverine' series is mentioned, written by Ashley Allen and illustrated by Amman Peralta, which is the character's first solo series. The series is set in Alaska and involves Magic, a character with a connection to limbo and a dark child persona. The script questions the necessity for more exploration of Magic's character, given the repetitive nature of her backstory.

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🌨️ Marvel's X-Men Line Struggles and Upcoming Series Predictions

The script discusses Marvel's struggle with their 'X-Men' line, 'X of Swords', and the lack of success with recent titles. It predicts that the newly announced ongoing series will likely be condensed into mini-series due to low sales and interest. The writer criticizes the repetitive use of ancient evils and limbo-related stories, suggesting that Marvel is not innovating with their content. There is also commentary on the potential of new writers and artists, with a focus on Ashley Allen's limited previous work and the challenge of sustaining interest in a solo 'Magic' series. The script concludes with a note on the upcoming discussion and review of 'Wolverine' #1 on the Think Critical Patreon platform.

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🎥 Exclusive Review and Discussion on Patreon

The final paragraph invites viewers to join the Think Critical Patreon platform for an exclusive, unedited review of 'Wolverine' #1, which will be available on YouTube with edits. The review is part of a broader discussion on the state of Marvel Comics and their 'X-Men' titles. The script encourages viewers to engage with the content and be part of the community for more in-depth analysis and commentary.

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Keywords

💡Marvel Comics

Marvel Comics is a major American comic book publisher, known for creating iconic characters like the X-Men, Spider-Man, and the Avengers. In the context of the video, Marvel is announcing several new comic series and one-shots, many of which are extensions or revivals of their existing titles. These announcements highlight the company's strategy to generate interest despite ongoing challenges with the success of certain titles.

💡X-Men

X-Men are a group of mutant superheroes created by Marvel Comics. In the video, various X-Men-related titles are being discussed, including new releases like 'Exceptional X-Men' and one-shot stories such as 'Time Slide.' The conversation reflects concerns about the longevity and quality of these new titles, as many X-Men series have historically faced cancellations.

💡Time Slide

Time Slide is a newly announced one-shot comic featuring the X-Men characters Bishop and Cable, both known for their time-traveling abilities. The one-shot focuses on their mission to prevent a villain from erasing mutants from history, showcasing high-stakes, time-related adventures. The video discusses excitement about this concept but expresses disappointment over the choice of writer, Steve Fox, who is seen as uninspiring.

💡Canceled series

The video refers to various X-Men comic series that are likely to be canceled, such as 'NYX,' 'Exceptional X-Men,' and 'Storm.' The concern is that Marvel is flooding the market with titles that lack long-term viability, often scrapping them when they don't perform well. This highlights a broader problem of Marvel launching too many series without enough faith in their sustainability.

💡Steve Fox

Steve Fox is a comic book writer mentioned in the video, associated with projects like 'Time Slide' and 'X-Men 97.' The video criticizes his work, suggesting that his inclusion as a writer in promising projects like 'Time Slide' dampens enthusiasm because his previous contributions, such as to 'X-Men Heir to the Empire,' have been underwhelming. His involvement is described as a 'rug pull moment,' signifying disappointment.

💡Timeless

Timeless is a previously released Marvel comic series that served as a year-end one-shot, which offered previews of upcoming Marvel events and characters. The video compares the 'Time Slide' one-shot to 'Timeless,' noting that while Timeless set up some interesting ideas (like Doctor Doom as Sorcerer Supreme), many of the events it previewed never materialized. This lack of follow-through diminishes enthusiasm for similar preview projects.

💡Rogue and Magneto

Rogue and Magneto are two X-Men characters who once shared a romance in the early 90s comics. The video discusses the upcoming limited series 'Rogue: The Savage Land,' which revisits this period. The narrator expresses skepticism about this storyline's relevance, suggesting that while nostalgia might attract readers, the series is unlikely to offer anything new or exciting, especially with writer Tim Seeley at the helm.

💡Savage Land

The Savage Land is a hidden prehistoric region in the Marvel Universe where dinosaurs and ancient creatures still roam. The new 'Rogue: The Savage Land' series is set here, exploring a past adventure between Rogue and Magneto. The narrator points out that the Savage Land setting might offer little more than romantic tension and doesn't expect the storyline to delve into any meaningful or unexplored plot points.

💡Magic

Magic (Illyana Rasputin) is a mutant with teleportation and sorcery powers, and a key X-Men character. The video mentions her upcoming solo series, which will explore her battles with dark powers and her demonic 'Darkchild' persona. While Magic is a popular character, the narrator expresses doubt about the longevity of the series, predicting it will be downgraded to a miniseries due to lack of sustained interest.

💡Milestone Initiative

The Milestone Initiative is a DC Comics program aimed at fostering new diverse talent in the comic industry. In the video, Ashley Allen, the writer for the upcoming 'Magic' series, is mentioned as having been a participant in the Milestone Initiative. This background is discussed to explain her relatively new and untested status as a writer, which raises questions about her ability to handle an ongoing series like 'Magic.'

Highlights

Marvel Comics announced 13 new ongoings, four mini-series, and one shot.

Preparations are being made for the cancellation of several X-Men titles.

X-Men: From the Ashes is part of Marvel's strategy to refresh their lineup.

Time Slide, a year-ending one-shot featuring Bishop and Cable, was revealed.

Time Slide is written by Steve Fox with art by Ivan Ferelli, launching on December 25th.

Timeless books have been well-received, setting up events for Marvel heroes.

Some announced titles may not last due to low pre-order numbers.

X-Factor and X-Force are expected to survive the lineup changes.

Rogue and Magneto's relationship from the early 90s is being revisited in a new limited series.

Rogue: The Savage Land is written by Tim Seeley and features art by Zulema Scott Lavina.

The series explores Rogue's journey through the Savage Land, populated by dinosaurs and ancient mammals.

Magic is getting her first-ever ongoing solo series, debuting on January 8th.

Magic's series is written by Ashley Allen and illustrated by Amman Peralta.

The series will delve into Magic's tragic history and her dark child persona.

Marvel is focusing on female-led ongoing solo titles, with five out of six being female-centric.

The success of the X-Men '97 cartoon is influencing Marvel's comic book storylines.

Marvel's strategy seems to be trying anything to see what sticks, with a focus on replacement titles.

The discussion includes an unedited review of Wolverine #1 on the Think Critical Patreon.

Transcripts

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all right Marvel Comics have now

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announced 13 new ongoings four midi

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series and one shot since we gotten into

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X-Men From the Ashes they're definitely

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preparing for a lot of canceled cic

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books this week doc getting prepped for

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all the stuff that isn't going to last

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like NYX exceptional X-Men X Factor

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probably storm definitely Phoenix likely

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mystique and I mean Sentinel was all

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Sentinel was already a miniseries they

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keep announcing these titles and it

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becomes very very clear

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that most of it has to do with the fact

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that they have zero faith in the books

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that are currently out there oh yeah I

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think they've gotten the pre-orders on

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them and are realizing they don't have a

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lot of winners certainly X-Men Uncanny

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X-Men Wolverine I think X Factor will

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will probably survive for quite a while

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xforce I'm sorry you're right but

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otherwise they're scrambling to find

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some titles first up we do have this one

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shot to talk about Marvel Comics

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revealed their year ending one shot

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similar to Timeless and it goes by the

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name time slide time slide Stars the

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X-Men's resident time traveling soldiers

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bishop and cable as they Blaze through

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the time stream to prevent a villain

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from eliminating mutant kind from

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history the high stakes Mission allows

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readers to witness events just on the

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horizon for your favorite Marvel heroes

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including upcoming events new characters

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and more written by Steve Fox with art

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by Ivan ferelli the One Shot will launch

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into comic shops on December 25th so

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this isn't a New Concept we've seen the

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two Timeless books which I think were

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mostly k out there and they've actually

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been pretty decent and I imagine when I

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first sent you the article and you're

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reading up on this you were kind of

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excited two of your favorite X-Men

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Heroes they still want to do this

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concept pay us money for an $8 $9

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preview book that we used to give away

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to for free because idiots out there are

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still buying it but now they're using

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the time traveling mutants that Tom BR

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just got done telling us they're not

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going to be using but Marvel's own

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inconsistency aside I get bishop and

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cable except for I have to deal with it

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from Steve Fox that is the bad news

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isn't it there's never like fully good

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news at Marvel right now even whenever

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they do announce something that sounds

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on the surface truly intriguing they

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have to ruin it by putting a Steve Fox a

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Steve Orlando a generic Stephanie a

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Colin Kelly and Jackson lanig a

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Christopher can't WR well all of these

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writers they have to stick that on the

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book that actually might have some

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promise hey great a solo Wolverine book

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soladine ammed hey a Jonathan Hickman

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Greg capula Wolverine book completely

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not in continuity there's always the rug

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pull moment with everything from Marvel

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and Steve Fox's presence here is that

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same rug pull moment yeah it's

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definitely unwanted you know especially

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after reading that X-Men air to the

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Empire and reading some of the other

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X-Men stuff I'm surprised Tom reard is

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even keeping him around although I will

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admit his X-Men 97 like companion comic

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to the cartoon that was on Disney plus

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is certainly the best thing that he's

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done but he's just adapting stuff to

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somebody else's storyline and material

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so it's not exactly like it was his idea

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anyway but he's just not a very exciting

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writer he's the guy that came up with a

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seamster Spiderman so I didn't like that

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but Ivan ferelli is certainly a good

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artist that's perfectly fine but I will

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say this reading Timeless and I did like

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Timeless I think the two issues were

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perfectly fine a lot of the big stuff

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they set up really never happened King

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never ended up being a big deal in

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Marvel Comics they never really used him

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they did tease the Doctor Doom as a

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sorcer supreme but it didn't happen for

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like 18 months so a lot of this stuff

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even if it does happen it might not even

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happen very soon so you're getting

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previews of stuff that might never even

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come to fruition I remember reading

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through a lot of the timeless books most

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of the the stuff that was in these books

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Never Happened like I get that they were

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trying they were planning for that to

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happen but for whatever reason sales

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cancellations a lot of those stories

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didn't end up coming to fruition they

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didn't end up being done or when they

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did happen they were such minor plot

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points it became very clear that the

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Timeless book was just trying to Hype

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people for titles that no one was

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reading because they took like the one

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cool scene out of an otherwise terrible

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dumb uninteresting book and they stuck

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it in there yeah but I would like a Time

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slide series I think that's pretty good

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concept it's a better concept than most

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of what they're actually putting out

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there I think a cable and Bishop teamup

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book would be perfectly fun not written

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by Steve Fox obviously but we're not

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getting that we're only getting the one

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shot so I guess that's uh you know a

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little bit of a bummer because even if

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it's good you're not even going to get

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more than that we do have some more

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series coming out Rogan Magneto once

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shared a toured arms length romance

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while adventuring in the Savage land and

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Marvel Comics is returning to that early

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90s comic ERA with Rogue The Savage land

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a new limited series written by Tim cely

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with art from zulma Lavina making her

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Marvel debut the series takes place in

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between Uncanny X-Men 269 and 275 by

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legendary creators Chris Claremont and

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Jim Lee Rogue The Savage land will Bell

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deeper into Rogue sojourn through the

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hidden land which is still populated by

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dinosaurs ancient mammals and things

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much larger than that another one of

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these throwback books to something that

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happened 30 years ago but this time

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instead of getting like an acclaimed

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awesome old school talent you're getting

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Tim cely instead of getting you know

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giving Chris Claremont more opportunity

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to again flush out stories between

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issues the way he did with that storm

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and Gambit miniseries a few years ago

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and the way he's done on these last

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couple of Wolverine ones this time we

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get Tim

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cely the human embodiment of the color

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beige fine whatever um I mean look Tim

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SE is saying all the right things about

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this book he he talks about it's

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scantily clad women and all these other

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things yes we love the fact that Rogue

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is scantily clad in this absolutely that

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being said all it is is going to end up

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being is a goofy romantic thing that

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nobody's going to really care that much

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about we already saw the ending of this

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uh we already saw them not have any

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connection for the people that are you

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know big Gambit Rogue shippers that love

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that that pairing that are pissed off

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about this because I did see a number of

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people pissed off about it they hadn't

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met yet so it was never a rogue cheating

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on Gambit with uh Magneto thing but

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there's not a lot more to tell down

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there the only thing that they could

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tell and I'm hoping that this is what it

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is the end of 269 there was hellfire

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club I guess those Security Guys the

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ones that were like the kind of gimp

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suits the ones that Wolverine

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slaughtered a bunch of back in the

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Phoenix Saga if you tell that story and

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I hope that they do because there was a

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lot of stuff that wasn't covered at the

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end of 269 then was never picked up on

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again at issue 274 if it's just the

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continuation of the Rogue and Magneto

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hanging out with Kazar and zabu and Nick

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Fury storyline with the uh with zaladane

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and the Savage land mutates nobody cares

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we've already seen enough of that we

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don't want to see that I want to see

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whatever was going on with the fucking

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hellfire club and why Magneto was in The

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Savage land in the first place with a

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bunch of Hellfire goons do you want to

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see Magneto and Rogue get it on multiple

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times look if they're just going to turn

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it into a romance comic no but what I

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mind some of the sexual tension and

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everything not really because by the

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time you got to issue 274 it was there

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in the first couple of pages and by the

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time Nick Fury shows up there really

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isn't anymore obviously this is being

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picked up because it was a major part I

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guess in X-Men 97 which does give you an

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indication that that cartoon at least in

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disy and Marvel's eyes is successful

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because it's now starting to drive some

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of the stories that they're going to

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revisit you within Marvel Comics itself

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for a cartoon it is very successful it's

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probably one of their more successful

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cartoons that they've done so far it is

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telling them that readers and viewers

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want more stories told back in that that

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era but it's also should be telling them

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hey we want a return to that era type

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storytelling but they don't want to

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listen to that fucking shit they just

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want to be like oh but we could tell

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this story that happens between two

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pages of books 400 100 issues ago that

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can't alter the continuity in any way

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shape or form and are already kind of

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pointless whenever they're released we

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do have wood War series out there this

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one's going to be an ongoing new X-Men

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series magic will debut on January 8th

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written by Ashley Allen and illustrated

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by Amman Peralta it is the character's

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first ever ongoing solo series Iana

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Rasputin strikes out on her own with new

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allies and dark Powers arrayed against

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her something ancient has awakened

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beneath the Alaskan ice unfortunately

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for it that's Magic's territory now

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throughout the series magic will also be

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forced to come to terms with her tragic

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history and learn to control her demonic

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dark child Persona so now we've got six

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ongoing solo titles that have been

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announced from Marvel CICS five of them

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are now starring females you only have

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Wolverine and then a bunch of um female

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Le ongoing books most of them probably

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won't be all that

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successful I don't see this one being

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all that successful either even though

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magic is a pretty cool character and I

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do like aont baral he was the artist on

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much of the Maestro series from Peter

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David he was really really good there

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glad to see him getting some more work

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but I don't see this becoming and

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ongoing it will be retroactively

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considered a miniseries if you believe

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that this is a uh ongoing series I have

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a bridge to sell you right in like the

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middle of Brooklyn like the Brooklyn

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Bridge yeah I'll sell it to you tomorrow

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if you're dumb enough to believe that

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this is a ongoing series it's obviously

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just another replacement book for

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another one of the cancel series and by

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the time the pre-orders for issue one

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happen completely unrelated you'll hear

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about the launch of another ongoing girl

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solo series from the X lineup and it

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will just be completely coincidental

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when magic only turns into a 4issue

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miniseries or a five isue miniseries how

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much heavy lifting can J Scott Campbell

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variant covers or um Terry Dodson

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variant covers how much heavy lifting

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can they do to keep this book afloat

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that's how long this title's going to

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last does anybody really need more

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exploration of magic and ilana's dark

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child Persona haven't we gotten enough

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of it there's not really a lot more

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stories to tell maybe this is me just

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speaking with some personal bias and

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I'll admit that

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but the whole limbo aspect of the

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character and that

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local bores me there's enough characters

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that have some sort of connection to

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Hell the underworld

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Valhalla limbo and all these other

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essentially the exact same places do we

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need more ancient evils under the ice

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that get Unearthed not really how many

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X-Men can we have in fucking Alaska

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we've got the entire X-Men team we've

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got Wolverine and now we got magic are

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we sure that's not Wolverine's territory

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I could tell you exactly why because

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drawing on snow is really easy you don't

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have to draw backgrounds there I lived

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in Alaska Alaska is a great state I'm

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just wondering why the entire because

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series of xed characters is there now

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now as far as the writer I don't believe

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you know who Ashley Allen is not a clue

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literally never heard of this trick she

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was part of the Milestone initiative

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that DC did I I think

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like two years ago she was one of the

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people that was accepted in there and

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went through the course and all that

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kind of stuff never really got any work

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over at DC interestingly enough but she

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did do the blood hunt Magic One Shot not

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a whole lot to draw on there it was a

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pretty basic story not many moving parts

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and it's hard to tell even if this is a

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promising talent but I do do know that

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the book was boring but it was only a

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one shot so this is a new talent and

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hopefully they discovered somebody

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that maybe likes the character and has

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an idea of something to do with magic

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that's actually interesting because I

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was pretty happy when she let what's her

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face become the new queen of limbo or

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whatever mateline prior I was like great

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she's not going to do the limbo crap

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anymore and now we're going to go back

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to limbo they don't have any other ideas

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for what to do with magic there was a

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very very small but very very vocal

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magic fandom that gets super hyped every

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time she ends up in a book apparent

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apparently never buys the book because

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anything she's magic is in gets

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cancelled and now you're giving her a

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solo series unless this is a complete

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test and you've commissioned the series

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solely to figure out how many actual

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fans of magic there are and not just

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people that cheer whenever you announce

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that she's in something I don't see what

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the point of this book is honestly I'd

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be happier to see a meline prior magic

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story where neither both of them are

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fighting for who will rule limbo but by

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doing it with neither of them wanting to

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do it and they have to fight each other

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and loser has to take over the role

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because limbo fucking sucks certainly be

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on the lookout for new ongoing titles to

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be replacing the outgoing ongoing titles

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that are being scrunched down in

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miniseries that's clearly what's going

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on here a lot of this the ashes stuff

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really isn't working out I'm not really

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even sure what they're going for at this

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point other than throw everything at the

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wall whatever sticks is what we're going

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to do and they're going to keep throwing

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things at the wall indefinitely because

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there is nothing to stick nobody wants

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it they keep demonstrating it by not

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buying it so there you go that's the

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latest update regarding new xmed cows we

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got a onot replacing tles we got a

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throwback miniseries we got an ongoing

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that will be condensed into a Min series

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coming up in the not too distant future

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as Marvel continue to struggle with

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their F the Ash's X-Men line trying to

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figure out what's going to work if you

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would like the entire conversation about

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this and our exclusive review on

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Wolverine number one unedited which will

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be up on YouTube tomorrow but it'll have

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all the edits in there you do need to

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come over to think critical patreon the

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doc is right here doc unfiltered there's

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a link the video description hope to see

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you there

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