The END of Ice Spice

JAMARI
15 Sept 202420:22

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses the volatile nature of fame in the rap industry, exemplified by artists who rise to stardom quickly only to fade away. It highlights the fast-paced 'fast-food era' of media, where content is rapidly consumed and artists must constantly adapt to stay relevant. The case of Ice Spice is explored, detailing her rapid ascent to fame, her viral hits, and subsequent challenges, including a feud with fellow rapper Cleo Trappa and a decline in her music career. The narrative suggests that in today's oversaturated music market, maintaining a long-lasting career is increasingly difficult.

Takeaways

  • 🎤 The rap industry is volatile, with artists' popularity often fleeting due to the fast-paced 'fast-food era' of media consumption.
  • 💰 Financial success does not guarantee longevity in the music industry; artists may still face public scrutiny and a loss of relevance.
  • 📈 The rapid rise to fame can be precarious as it lacks the solid fan base needed to sustain an artist through challenging times.
  • 📱 Social media has democratized fame, allowing anyone to go viral, but also intensifying the competition and fickleness of the audience.
  • 🏠 The lack of a solid foundation in the music industry can lead to a swift downfall, akin to a house built without a strong foundation.
  • 💸 Record labels may own an artist's masters and likeness, exerting significant control over their career and finances.
  • 🚀 Ice Spice's rapid rise to fame was fueled by viral hits like 'Munch' and her distinctive New York accent, but her recent career has seen a significant downturn.
  • 👙 Ice Spice's image and music are heavily focused on her physical appearance and sex appeal, which has been both her strength and a point of criticism.
  • 🤝 Her collaboration with Nicki Minaj and a feature on a Taylor Swift song highlight her peak in the industry, but such moments may be fleeting.
  • 📉 Despite initial success, Ice Spice has experienced a significant loss of followers and a 50% drop in monthly Spotify listeners, indicating a waning audience interest.
  • 💔 The feud with fellow rapper Cleo and allegations of mistreatment during a tour have further tarnished Ice Spice's public image and fan base.

Q & A

  • What is the main theme discussed in the script?

    -The main theme discussed in the script is the rise and fall of rappers in the music industry, with a focus on the fast-paced nature of fame and the challenges artists face in maintaining relevance.

  • What is the 'fast food era of media' mentioned in the script?

    -The 'fast food era of media' refers to the current state of media consumption where content, including music, movies, and online videos, is rapidly produced and consumed, often lacking the quality and depth of past media.

  • Why do artists who rise to fame quickly often face a rapid decline?

    -Artists who rise quickly often face a rapid decline because they may not have a solid fan base to support them during tough times, their success can be easily replicated by others, and the public's interest can shift rapidly to newer trends or artists.

  • What is the significance of the phrase 'falling off' in the context of the script?

    -In the context of the script, 'falling off' refers to an artist's decline in popularity and relevance in the music industry, often accompanied by public scrutiny and a loss of fan support.

  • How does the script describe the impact of social media on artists' careers?

    -The script describes social media as a platform where anyone can go viral, leading to intense competition and a constant need for artists to stay relevant and produce viral content to maintain their fame.

  • What is the role of the music industry in an artist's fall from fame according to the script?

    -The script suggests that the music industry plays a role in an artist's fall from fame by pushing them to produce more content quickly, often without a solid foundation, and by not supporting them when their popularity wanes.

  • Why does the script mention the importance of having a strong fan base for artists?

    -The script mentions the importance of a strong fan base because it can provide artists with the support needed to weather the fickleness of public interest and the pressures of the music industry.

  • What is the significance of the artist's financial stability in the context of the script?

    -In the script, an artist's financial stability is significant because it can influence their motivation to continue creating music and their ability to withstand periods of reduced popularity.

  • How does the script discuss the role of controversy in an artist's career?

    -The script discusses the role of controversy as a factor that can exacerbate an artist's fall from fame, especially when their music or public image begins to decline in popularity.

  • What is the script's perspective on the sustainability of an artist's career in the current music industry?

    -The script suggests that the sustainability of an artist's career in the current music industry is challenging due to the fast-paced nature of fame, the oversaturation of the market, and the constant need to produce viral content.

Outlines

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🎤 The Rise and Fall of Rappers in the Fast-Paced Music Industry

The paragraph discusses the transient nature of fame in the music industry, particularly for rappers. It highlights how artists can quickly rise to stardom only to fall out of favor just as rapidly. The speaker reflects on the fast-food era of media, where content, including music, often lacks depth and originality, leading to a rapid turnover of trends. The pressure to maintain relevance is immense, and artists who do not have a solid fan base can quickly lose their audience. The paragraph also touches on the financial implications of losing popularity, such as the burden of repaying record label advances and the loss of creative control over one's music and image.

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🌐 The Viral Journey of Ice Spice: Fame, Controversy, and the Music Industry

This paragraph delves into the career of Ice Spice, a female rapper from the Bronx who gained internet fame with her song 'Munch.' It explores how she leveraged social media platforms like TikTok to achieve viral success and the subsequent challenges she faced in sustaining her career. The paragraph also discusses the impact of her physical appearance and sexual appeal on her image and music, as well as her collaborations with high-profile artists like Nicki Minaj. Despite her initial success, the paragraph notes a decline in her popularity and the public's fickle nature towards artists who do not evolve or maintain their relevance.

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🔥 The Downward Spiral: Ice Spice's Decline in Popularity and Controversies

The paragraph details the decline in Ice Spice's career, marked by a significant loss of followers and a decrease in album sales. It discusses the controversy surrounding her debut album's lead single, which was seen as a provocative move against another female rapper. The paragraph also covers the allegations of mistreatment by Cleo Trappa, an artist who joined Ice Spice on tour, claiming she was used for promotional purposes and not treated fairly. The narrative suggests that Ice Spice's image and career are facing a downturn, with her music no longer resonating with her audience as it once did.

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💔 Backstage Drama: Ice Spice's Toxic Tour Experience Exposed

This paragraph focuses on the backstage drama that unfolded during Ice Spice's tour, as described by Cleo Trappa and a personal stylist. It outlines the mistreatment Cleo allegedly faced, including being given last-minute invites, performing to empty venues, and being excluded from the main act's perks. The paragraph also touches on Ice Spice's response to these allegations, which was dismissive and further fueled public criticism. The narrative paints a picture of a toxic environment and a breakdown in the relationship between Ice Spice and Cleo, highlighting the darker side of the music industry's fast rise and fall cycle.

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📉 The Future of Ice Spice: Speculations and Fan Reactions

The final paragraph speculates on the future of Ice Spice's career in light of the controversies and declining popularity. It suggests that her music career may be nearing its end and proposes that she might consider transitioning into other roles such as an influencer or model. The paragraph also reflects on the public's reaction to the drama, particularly from her fanbase, which seems to be turning against her. The speaker invites viewers to share their thoughts on Ice Spice's career trajectory and ends the video with a call for viewers to like, subscribe, and engage in further discussions.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Falling off

In the context of the video, 'falling off' refers to an artist's decline in popularity or relevance in the music industry. It is used to describe a situation where an artist who was once highly sought after and successful experiences a significant drop in their fan base or public interest. The script mentions this in relation to rappers who may have had a moment of great success but then see their careers decline, as exemplified by the line 'the quicker someone rises up the faster they will likely fall back down to the bottom'.

💡Fast-food era of media

This term is used in the video to describe the current state of media consumption where content is rapidly produced and consumed, much like fast food. It implies a lack of depth or lasting value, with a focus on instant gratification. The video script criticizes this era for leading to a decline in quality and an increase in the disposability of content, as seen in the phrase 'we obviously live in the fast-food era of media from movies to music, and even videos and online content we digest on a daily basis.'

💡Viral

In the video, 'going viral' refers to the phenomenon where content, often on social media platforms, gains extreme popularity and widespread sharing in a short period. It is a key aspect of modern fame and is closely tied to the rise and fall of artists in the music industry. The script mentions Ice Spice's music video for 'Munch' going viral, which significantly contributed to her initial fame.

💡Fickle fans

The term 'fickle fans' is used in the video to describe fans who are not loyal and can quickly shift their support from one artist to another. This concept is central to the discussion of artists' rapid rise and fall, as it suggests that without a solid, loyal fan base, an artist's success can be fleeting. The script highlights this when discussing how fans can easily turn their backs on an artist or stop caring about their music.

💡Rap beef

In the context of the video, 'rap beef' refers to a rivalry or conflict between rappers, often played out in their music or public statements. It is a significant aspect of hip-hop culture and can significantly impact an artist's image and career. The video discusses Ice Spice's 'rap beef' with another artist, using it as an example of how such conflicts can affect an artist's public perception and fan base.

💡TikTok

TikTok is mentioned in the video as a platform that has played a significant role in the music industry, particularly in making songs and artists go viral. The video references how Ice Spice's song 'Munch' became a viral hit on TikTok, illustrating the platform's influence on an artist's career trajectory.

💡Debut album

A 'debut album' is an artist's first full-length music release and is a significant milestone in their career. In the video, the discussion around Ice Spice's debut album and its reception is used to analyze her career's trajectory and the challenges she faces in maintaining her success in the music industry.

💡Influencer

An 'influencer' in the video refers to individuals who have the power to affect the purchasing decisions of others because of their authority, knowledge, position, or relationship with their audience. The script suggests that Ice Spice might need to transition into being an influencer, indicating a shift from her primary focus on music to leveraging her online presence for other forms of income and fame.

💡Meme

In the video, a 'meme' is used to describe something that spreads rapidly on the internet and becomes popular, often for humorous or satirical reasons. It is mentioned in relation to Ice Spice's online presence, suggesting that her fame is more due to her becoming a viral sensation or a meme rather than for her music, indicating a potential issue with the longevity of her career.

💡Hypocrisy

The term 'hypocrisy' is used in the video to describe the behavior of someone who pretends to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that they do not actually have. It is applied to Ice Spice's response to the controversy with Cleo, where she is accused of treating her poorly and then mocking her for eating a lot, which is seen as hypocritical given speculations about Ice Spice's own dietary habits.

Highlights

Rappers' popularity can be fleeting, with some making millions and then experiencing a rapid decline in interest.

The fast-paced 'fast-food era' of media contributes to the quick rise and fall of artists due to a lack of lasting quality in content.

The pressure to maintain relevance in an oversaturated music market can lead to artists being quickly replaced.

Young artists who achieve fame rapidly may lack the foundation to withstand adversity, leading to a swift decline.

Artists who become successful quickly often don't have a solid fan base to support them during tough times.

The music industry's focus on immediate success can lead to a lack of long-term career sustainability for artists.

Ice Spice, a female rapper, experienced a rapid rise to fame but has recently seen a significant downturn in her career.

Ice Spice's viral success was largely due to her provocative image and New York accent, rather than her music.

Her collaboration with Nicki Minaj on the song 'Princess Diana' marked a high point in her career.

The release of her debut album was met with modest sales and a loss of over 50% of her monthly Spotify listeners.

Ice Spice's feud with fellow rapper Cleo Trappa and allegations of mistreatment during a tour have damaged her public image.

Cleo Trappa claims she was treated poorly during the tour, including being performed to empty venues and not being provided for.

A personal stylist on the tour corroborated Cleo's claims of mistreatment, highlighting the calculated and insincere nature of the operation.

Ice Spice's response to the controversy on Twitter was dismissive, further upsetting fans and observers.

The speculation about Ice Spice's weight loss program and her reaction to it added to the controversy surrounding her.

The future of Ice Spice's music career seems uncertain, with suggestions that she may need to transition into other areas like influencing or modeling.

Transcripts

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so it's no secret that rappers come and

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go every single year one moment an

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artists can be on top of the game with

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everyone wanting a feature and the next

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they can be completely falling off what

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what what technically was falling off

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you know what I'm saying I done made 30

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million I don't got to do do I do I do I

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got to keep making music bro I don't

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need to bro I'm rich I don't need to

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make music I do it because I know I

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still have fans and with that fall off

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obviously comes a lot of scrutiny and

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public embarrassment and the saying

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really is true that the quicker someone

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Rises up the faster they will likely

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fall back down to the bottom there is a

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myriad of reasons for this phenomenon

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for one we obviously live in the fast

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food era of media from movies to music

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and even videos and online content we

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digest on a daily basis most pieces of

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major media now seem to lack a certain

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quality they possessed in the past and

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I'm not necessarily just talking about

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from a budget standpoint today things

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seem more rushed more formulaic less

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thought out and moments tend to come and

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go faster than ever before we live in an

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age of information and content overdrive

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and with social media anyone and

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everyone can now go viral and every day

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there are millions of people desperately

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yearning and grinding away to try and

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get themselves out there meaning when

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someone does make it there is a good

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chance that hundreds if not thousands of

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people will try and replicate their

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success in some shape or form and since

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most of the artists who blow up really

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fast do not have the fan base in place

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to carry them through the tough times

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it's easy for these fickle fans to turn

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their backs on or simply stop caring

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about a rapper's music there's so many

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parts of that era of rap where like

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people got Fame so fast they were so

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young you know what I'm saying like and

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I feel like that was some of the

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foresight that he was saying not even

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necessarily about quote unquote falling

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off you know what I

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mean you don't think you don't think he

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predicted anything I don't think he

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predicted [ __ ] no it's like trying to

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build a house with no Foundation like if

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one strong gusta wind comes through or

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adversity in this case well suddenly no

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one is playing the music no one is going

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to the shows other artists stop hitting

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you up and the industry decides they no

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longer want to play with you it turns

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like he not picking up phone calls I

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ain't no I ain't no friendly anyway

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though you know what I'm saying so that

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that kind of that ain't had no type of

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effect on me like I barely called I

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ain't called I was on when I was on top

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oh yeah and you still owed the label

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Five albums you got to pay back the

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advance they gave you which is really

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just a highin loan they now own your

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Masters they own your likeness and

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they're taking most of the money from

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your tour if you can still do that to

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try and recoup their investment on not

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only you but 20 other failed artists

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before you not to even mention your new

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lifestyle and image you can no longer

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afford eating away at your pockets by

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the time many artists finally see this

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reality it's far too late to turn back

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like even when you strike when the

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kettle is hot and the industry likes you

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you still will likely be replaced at

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some point this combined with an intense

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oversaturation of the music Market has

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really affected an artist chances of

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maintaining relevance for more than a

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couple of years all right I've been like

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number one song

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at like you know album sells this you

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know and then I put out some [ __ ] that's

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like I take a kind of a left turn and

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experiment with you know a different and

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it does not hit you know and how fickle

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and how fast people can just be like oh

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he fell off or he you know it's it's a

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game of you know you ride these these

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waves and and what altitude you're at

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and the inertia required to stay at this

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like altitude in pop culture and pop

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success and any of it you know I mean

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how long of a run can you because

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it's it's crazy now with that being said

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let's talk about ice spice a female

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rapper who took the Internet by storm

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over the last couple of years but more

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recently has seen a serious downtrend in

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her career and now tens of thousands of

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people are unfollowing her every single

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day ice spice is a New York rapper from

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the Bronx who started making music back

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in 2021 how was that growing up there

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like it was fun it was real fun like you

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know fighting off crackheads and [ __ ]

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like that and over a year later she

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would finds herself going viral with her

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music video for her song Munch this was

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back when Tik Tok was turning out number

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one records on a daily basis and for I

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spice that was really no different how

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much was there before Munch and then how

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long did it take for things to go crazy

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crazy um so there was a couple songs

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before munch it was probably like four

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songs I think from the start she knew

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that her greatest asset was just that

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shaking her rump rubbing her cooch and

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rapping in that New York accent made her

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Infamous right off the bat when I say

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that I mean some people were hating on

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her a lot of people were loving her but

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all that mattered was that she was

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finally popping off growing up I always

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would just like write little raps and um

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I never wrote like full songs though

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with like Hooks and verses until I got a

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little older and I started to understand

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song structure more but um I always had

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like this like want to write basically

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even in promotional videos that she made

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before she went viral it was beyond

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clear that she knew that her body was

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her ticket to fame and at this point

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she's one of those people who's known

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more for her likeness and her sex appeal

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than her actual music I feel like a lot

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of people think that oh I'm just like

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this like pretty girl that like post on

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Instagram but there's like millions of

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pretty girls that post on Instagram and

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like you know you have to really

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contribute to the culture in order to

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like matter I would actually say that

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her existence online is more like a meme

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than a rapper now to be clear the two do

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go hands in hands in her success and she

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could not have one without the other I

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mean recently she was on stream with Kai

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sonat he tells her to Freestyle and

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guess what she does out of pure Instinct

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okay let me hear you

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freyle up

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so much comes out it goes viral she

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signs a record deal and starts showing

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up doing live performances where her job

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is strictly to get up there and shake

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that ass it was at that time that she

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would be seen frequently with Drake and

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rumors of the two dating of course

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surface from there under the label she

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would release her first EP which

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featured more viral songs like bikini

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bottom in hamood and Princess Diana with

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her longtime Idol Nicki Minaj when I met

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Nikki right for the first time in person

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um I was like at her studio and she was

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like doing her Glam and stuff and

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nervous I was nervous she came out right

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and um I was fine but she came out and

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she looked at like uh my manager James

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and like Riot and stuff and my

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photographer and everything and um then

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she came at me and when she came to me

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and she hugged me I started crying

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because it just felt like a a i I cried

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but I walked away like I didn't say

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anything to her I was just like this EP

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was a pretty massive success for her I

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mean to me it all sounds like one long

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song but the target audience definitely

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ate this up it was like the perfect

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music for women and I would think gay

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men to get ratchet to songs about being

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a baddie twerking that ass getting money

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and things like that don't get me wrong

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with this new found Fame also came a lot

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of new people who absolutely despised

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her I feel like when you're like huge um

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and people just going to want you to

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fall you know what I'm I'm saying but

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either way as long as people were

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talking about her and she was still

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going viral I doubt either she or her

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label could care less this EP was enough

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for the machine to be willing to pour

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more money into her career and she would

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really hit it big with her next single

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boy a liar catching another viral Tik to

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song and further pushing her image into

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the public eye and if you needed any

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more evidence that I spice was playing

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the game correctly she would get a shout

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out and even a feature on a Taylor Swift

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song called karma which in the music

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industry is like getting LeBron to back

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you and say you're a great player who he

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wants on his team the two seemingly

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became friendly Taylor Swift said that

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she was always listening to Ice spice's

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music apparently and she was even with

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her at the Super Bowl doing very weird

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things with her hands and it really did

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seem like ice spice would solidify

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herself with the release of the massive

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Barbie movie last year as her second

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song with Nicki Minaj would be

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synonymous with this Barbie Resurgence

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this hit actually made her the first

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rapper to release four songs that reach

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the top 10 on the Billo W Hot 100 in the

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very same year which is very hard for me

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to wrap my head around when we've had

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artists like Drake Eminem Little Wayne

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Aon and DMX amongst many others who have

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been absolute Superstars over the years

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either way 2023 was a great year for the

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ginger rapper they have you uh uh

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declaring her as the artist perfectly

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poised to have a breakthrough year in

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2023 you feel like this is your time

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this is your year for sure but 2024 so

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far has not been as kind to her and it

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has me looking at her career through the

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same lens that I see someone like the

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baby just two individuals who struck

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lightning in a bottle who had their own

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unique sounds and went super viral and

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then Super mainstream for about a year

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or two and then once that newness kind

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of wears off every song kind of starts

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to sound the same and when aided by a

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little bit of controversy they start to

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fall off now in the name of continuing

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her fast food music run she would come

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out with a rather prophetic lead single

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for her debut album Y2K hey thank you

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the [ __ ] fart which was a perfect way to

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kick off this album thank you the [ __ ]

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[ __ ] you're not even a fart yes that is

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the chorus to This Masterpiece and this

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was actually a discs towards fellow

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female rapper lotto as the two had been

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sending subliminal shots at each other

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for the last year talk about a joke of a

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song that many people likely had to

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approve before it came out she actually

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has a ton of bars over the years about

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pooping I'm the [ __ ] I'm that [ __ ] I'm

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Miss poopy I'm Miss poopy but I never

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smell an artist debut album is

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definitely something that could make a

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break their career and with her using

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this as the lead single that led to this

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album selling a modest 28,000 copies

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which let's be honest 28,000 is not that

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bad for an artist of her caliber but

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with the backing of a major record label

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and the fact that she was technically

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selling this album on pre-order for over

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10 months before it would even come out

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and then when you package that

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information with all this [ __ ]

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bundles artists can now count as sales

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once again you'll see that the 28,000

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number is very inflated can you guys

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imagine getting this [ __ ] on vinyl Jesus

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Christ the other thing is that year-over

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year I spice has lost over 50% of her

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monthly listeners on Spotify while

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producing her debut album in the process

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meaning her old songs are now cooling

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off and her new songs are not hitting

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like the old ones in fact she doesn't

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even look happy in her natural habitat

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of twerking anymore and now with this

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latest Feud that she has found herself

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in she is losing followers and fans at a

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massive rate and it all really started

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when she decided to take a rapper named

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Cleo trappa on tour with her basically

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this Cleo person would come forward and

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say that I spice treated her like [ __ ]

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during the duration of this tour nobody

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should make you feel less than or make

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you feel like [ __ ] because they gave you

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an opportunity the two of them had

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apparently been industry friends for the

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last couple of years but it sounds like

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the extent of their relationship was

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mainly public appearances and content

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creation it's like every time she's like

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inviting me out cuzz we never chilled on

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some like chill [ __ ] bro like it was

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never like just some chill it was always

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like in the blogs the next day and the

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song is dropping too so it was like what

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this girl kind of uses me for her roll

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outs she was said to open for ice spice

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but was actually only offered this

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opportunity one day before the tour

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began claiming that the reason ice spice

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invited her to come perform in the first

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place had to do with her trying to

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Rebrand Her Image to make it look a

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certain way so the ending of July I get

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a call from Ice um very early in the

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morning Cleo come on tour with me I miss

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you come and I'm just like girl I'm not

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about to come on tour with you and watch

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you perform all month like I got a [ __ ]

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I got stuff that I could be doing I can

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be getting money I have opportunities in

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New York I have brandles I have things

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that I need to focus on so for me to

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travel all over the United States with

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you to watch you perform kind of crazy

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she's like no I want you to perform and

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I gag you want me to per for she ain't

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never ever ever ever brought me out on

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stage and despite worries about the last

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minute invite I spice insisted that

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everything would be taken care of from

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her travel accommodations like food in a

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place to stay to her actual performances

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keep in mind this was a strenuous unpaid

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opportunity that would take months of

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her life now obviously when someone goes

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on tour and opens up for another artist

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it is usually a great chance for them to

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gain a ton of fans and exposure so often

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times the bigger artists will recruit

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someone who makes similar music to them

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or at least someone who can capture a

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similar fan base like back in the day I

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saw logic and Big Sean open up for kid

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cuy and it was amazing because I knew

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all three artists and so did most of the

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crowd so I'm sure Cleo saw this as a big

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opportunity but apparently once she

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would go on the tour the mistreatment

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would begin for example she claims that

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she would often be sent on stage before

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the show was even advertised to start

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meaning she was performing to an empty

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venue online says the show starts at 8

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it would even say 9 sometimes and guess

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what time I was going on at 7:30 7:45 I

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was going on before the show starts so

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that was kind of weird in itself now

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apparently this was only the tip of the

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iceberg on this shitty situation she

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claims that she had one day to prepare

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for the tour literally one day so I'm

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just like what do I have to pay for

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nothing you're going to be with me

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you're good you're going to be with me

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she wasn't allowed to bring anyone with

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her and that she wasn't even listen on

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the lineup and basically it sounds like

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she felt like she was being treated as a

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second class citizen not having a

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dressing room not having a hotel room to

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sleep in and not being included in team

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meals while on the road and we just

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sitting on the bus we just like yo like

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can somebody come with us to McDonald's

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like nobody want to walk there by

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themselves we we fake want a man with us

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they like oh that's mad fall like no

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like we there's a desert scary I'm like

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okay nobody said anything about food

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still come to find

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out everybody

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ate can you believe that everybody at

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guess what they all went to a

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steakhouse basically it sounds like she

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was not part of the plan at all and that

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by the end of the tour it felt like she

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had overstayed her welcome remember she

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wasn't even getting paid and she even

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claims that while she was performing her

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debit card was used to buy designer

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items behind her back and it really just

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seems like the opportunity was not worth

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the stress nor the time or the effort

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that she was putting in and that the

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opportunities she was missing out on to

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be there were far greater than what this

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had all turned into on top of that ice

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spice apparently stopped talking to her

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at all right in the middle of this tour

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and basically outside of a stylist that

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she made friends with she was pretty

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much on her own I didn't have a room I

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was told I was going to be with her but

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I didn't have a room no room for me

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backstage at all I was in her dressing

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room I didn't have no writer I was with

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her I was so confused like you're not

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being my friend so I'm going to make

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more

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friends like girl it's like she wanted

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me to be miserable and alone and it just

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didn't happen cuz that's not what God

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had planned for me Boo as some of you

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may know or probably don't know I am a

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personal stylist and I was hired as a

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backup stylist for ice spice tour and

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when I say everything that Cleo was

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saying is dead ass true is dead ass true

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the first thing that caught me off guard

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was when I first made it there okay I

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get what Spy and me and her cool as hell

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so we just be regularly talking about

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[ __ ] I see she typed got an attitude so

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I asked her like what's up like you good

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type [ __ ] like you know feeling the r

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she like oh yeah I'm cool w w it's just

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Cleo black ass doing too much I'm like

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damn hold up so now I get back in the

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room with ice she on FaceTime with Riot

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she letting him know like yeah um she

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doing too much she blowing my scale she

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was like [ __ ] got to go they asking

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for too much wo wo [ __ ] is acting broke

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like I'm really tired of her black ass

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and I'm like damn like why do she keep

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saying this like what and let's be

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honest guys it's not rare for an opener

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to get less than preferential treatment

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while on tour with a bigger act and you

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do hear a lot of stories about openers

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not even spending any time at all around

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the main act despite them being on tour

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together for months but granted this was

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apparently her friend who she allegedly

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begged last minute to do this with her I

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took a step back and just made the

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opportunity what I could make it but it

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wasn't genuine at all nothing that you

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do is genuine everything is calculated

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like I said I was the token black friend

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you didn't have your other best friend

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around cuz you said that she didn't

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match your aesthetic like there's

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something very wrong with somebody that

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is only friends with somebody for their

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aesthetic look how you talking to me

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like you was never even my friend bro

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she's just like bro this is why you

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never going to be anywhere this is why

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you never going to get nowhere if I was

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a careerist bum why would you even bring

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me on tour lastly she would claim that I

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spice has sold her soul say so everybody

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hold hands hold hands hold hands Lord

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thank you so much for bringing this

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amazing group together right now with

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this amazing stream and our amazing

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teams Lord we are all from the same

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place and we are all trying to get to

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the same place which is the top and we

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are we all want to experience different

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things in our lives CH so thank you so

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much for bringing all of us together and

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I pray that you allow us to grow on

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other people on each other and I pray

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that you allow us to reach any measures

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in his life and you just watch over us

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daily you bless us you allow us to bless

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other people with our work and our

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amazing craft and you help us enjoy this

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night in Jesus name we pray amen

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amen she would also share this text

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message exchange they had where she

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expressed her frustrations after the

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tour and I spice pretty much just

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replies in these messages that none of

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that was her fault and that it wasn't

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that deep later she would even respond

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to these claims on a Twitter space where

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she had this to say yeahall put it

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laughing faces y'all

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know y'all know this is not funny [ __ ]

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you not going to tell the people how we

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was at an Italian restaurant and you ate

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so much food youing vacuum that the

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server was like where did the food go

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like stop it right now you talking about

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some she ain't let me to the back of her

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room on her tour bus she had this big

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ass room [ __ ] can I play with my one

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time now this made people even more

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upset and they called out ice spices

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hypocrisy for clowning this woman for

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eating a lot when many speculate that

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she's been off that OIC weight loss

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program and the speculation actually got

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so strong that she released this like

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workout weightlifting video they really

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didn't prove anything people also claim

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that she basically is someone who thinks

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that her [ __ ] don't stink and that she

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has way too big of an ego for how volle

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her career is at this point I mean

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honestly I didn't think this was like

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the biggest deal in the world or really

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like cancel worthy but with most of her

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fans being women they aren't going to

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like the whole mean girl [ __ ] especially

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when it feels like she was punching down

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here on someone who was supposed to be

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her friend someone who she invited to

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come perform on this tour for free I

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don't know to me if I'm her manager we

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aren't releasing any more albums just

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the occasional single trying to go viral

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on Tik Tok and honestly the primary

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focus shouldn't even be on rap anymore

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like I think she has to transition into

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an influencer or an IG model or an of

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girl or some [ __ ] like that because to

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me the curtains on her music career are

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CL in pretty damn fast but I do want to

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know what you guys think about ice spice

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I want to know what you think about her

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career I've yet to meet like a big ice

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spice Stan in my life but I'm sure

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they're out there but either way I do

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want to thank you guys for watching

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today's video dropping a like and

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subscribing but as you guys know it's

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been your boy the tan Superman and some

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other rap beef out here needs to be

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covered so I'm out peace

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