How to Quickly Learn Drumming | The Tim Ferriss Experiment (TV Series)

Tim Ferriss
5 Jan 202420:57

Summary

TLDRTim Ferriss takes on the challenge of learning to play the drums and perform live with the rock band Foreigner in just 5 days. He struggles at first to read sheet music and keep time. With guidance from expert drummers like Stewart Copeland of The Police, Ferriss realizes he should focus on nailing the main grooves of the song rather than getting overwhelmed with fancy fills. After hours of focused practice, Ferriss takes the stage with Foreigner to perform their hit song "Hot Blooded," overcoming his self-doubts and achieving his improbable goal.

Takeaways

  • 😊 Tim Ferriss takes on the challenge of learning to play the drums and perform live with a rock band in just 5 days
  • πŸ‘‚ He gets advice from legendary Police drummer Stewart Copeland to focus on the basics - kick, snare, and hi-hat patterns
  • πŸ₯ His initial attempts to sight read drum sheet music prove ineffective so he switches to a simplified notation system
  • πŸ˜… Tim experiences frustration and anxiety trying to learn drums so quickly but persists through the mental barriers
  • 🎸 He simplifies the learning process by identifying the critical 20% - the main verse, chorus and pre-chorus grooves
  • 🎀 Members of rock band Foreigner advise him to learn the song instead of just the drums
  • πŸ’‘ Tim has an insight that repetitive practice of the core grooves is the most effective training strategy
  • 🀘 He decides not to attempt fancy fills to minimize risk of failure at his live show debut
  • πŸ”₯ Tim gets an adrenaline rush and feels the electricity of live performance for the first time
  • πŸ˜„ He ends up playing competently at the final show and feels he can now question other 'Impossibles' in his life

Q & A

  • What is Tim Ferriss' goal for the 5 day challenge?

    -Tim Ferriss' goal is to learn drums and perform live with an internationally renowned rock band in Los Angeles within 5 days.

  • Who does Tim Ferriss recruit as his drum teacher?

    -Tim recruits Stuart Copeland, the founding member of The Police and considered one of the top 10 drummers of all time.

  • What is Tim's main weakness when trying to learn the drums?

    -Tim's main weakness is that he does not know how to read music or think about music using standard vocabulary like measures and notes.

  • What advice does Chris from Foreigner give Tim?

    -Chris advises Tim to learn the song itself rather than just focusing on learning the drums. This means Tim should learn the drums through the specifics of the song he will perform.

  • What does Tim realize is the 'critical 20%' he needs to focus on?

    -Tim realizes the 3 main grooves of the song - the verse, chorus, and pre-chorus - make up the critical 20% he needs to learn to play 80% or more of the song.

  • What hard decision does Tim have to make before the performance?

    -Tim has to decide whether to go for the fancy drum fills and flourishes at the risk of messing up, or focus on nailing the main grooves even if it's boring.

  • What ritual does the band Foreigner do before the show?

    -The band members toss a carrot in the air and try to catch it in their mouths.

  • How does Tim feel after completing the 5-day drumming challenge?

    -Tim feels that if learning drums this quickly was possible, it makes him question what other 'impossibles' in his life he could achieve.

  • Where can viewers find additional footage related to the show?

    -Viewers can find extended scenes, interviews, and tutorials at Tim's website 4hourworkweek.com/sltv.

  • What does Tim Ferriss warn about working in TV?

    -He jokes that working in TV means you have to cut so much great footage to fit time slots that it makes you want to stab yourself with bicycle spokes.

Outlines

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πŸ˜„ Introducing Tim Ferriss and his drumming challenge

Tim Ferriss introduces himself as a best-selling author and human guinea pig who takes on difficult challenges. This week he will attempt to learn drums and perform live with an internationally renowned rock band in 5 days despite having no music experience. He finds an incredible teacher, Stuart Copeland of The Police, to help him.

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😩 Struggling to learn the basics of drumming

Tim struggles to learn even the basics of drumming like holding the sticks properly and reading sheet music. He has an anxiety attack from the overwhelming challenge. He meets the band Foreigner who tells him he picked a very difficult song. He still doesn't know what or how to practice.

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πŸ’‘ Realizing the key is learning the song, not just drums

The band Foreigner gives Tim advice to focus on learning the song rather than just drum techniques. Tim realizes he needs to identify the minimum components that make up 80% of the song. He finds the 3 main grooves of the song and practices them repeatedly to gain confidence.

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😎 Feeling ready after intense solitary practice

After intense practice on his own, Tim plays the full song well for Chris from Foreigner. Chris makes suggestions about simplifying the fancy drum fills. Tim feels the excitement of performing and thinks he is ready for the big show.

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πŸ₯ Successfully drumming live with Foreigner!

Tim successfully pulls off drumming live on stage with Foreigner, keeping to the simple beats he practiced without attempting complicated fills. He is surprised he did not fail completely and feels he can now question other "impossibles" in life.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘deconstruct

Deconstruct means to break something down into its basic elements in order to thoroughly understand it. Tim uses this term several times when talking about his approach to learning drums, as he aims to deconstruct drumming by identifying the most critical 20% of material needed to play 80% of a song.

πŸ’‘protocol

A protocol is an established procedure or system. When Tim mentions needing to develop a protocol for practicing, he is referring to figuring out the most effective system for allocating his limited practice time over 5 days to learn the drums.

πŸ’‘minimum effective dose

The minimum effective dose refers to the smallest amount needed to produce a desired outcome. Tim realizes he needs to determine the minimum pieces of the song he needs to learn in order to be able play it live after only 5 days of practice.

πŸ’‘critical 20%

The critical 20% refers to the key components that account for the majority of results. Tim aims to break down drumming to identify the most critical 20% of techniques and rhythms he needs to focus on during his short timeframe.

πŸ’‘muscle memory

Muscle memory describes the ability to reproduce a physical movement without conscious thought. Tim is concerned about disrupting his muscle memory on the drums right before his performance.

πŸ’‘timing

Keeping timing means being able to maintain the beat and rhythm of a song. Tim identifies getting the timing right as one of the main challenges for him as a beginner drummer with no musical experience.

πŸ’‘grooves

In drumming, grooves refer to the main rhythms that establish the core feel of sections of a song, like the verse or chorus. Rather than try to learn fancy drum fills, Tim decides to focus on nailing down the main grooves.

πŸ’‘kick

The kick drum is the large bass drum played with a foot pedal, which provides the foundation beat that drives dance music. Keeping a steady kick drum rhythm is essential for Tim to be able to play with a live rock band after only 5 days.

πŸ’‘fills

Fills are rhythmic flourishes that drummers play to transition between sections of a song. Tim has to decide whether to risk complicating his limited drumming abilities by attempting fills during the live performance.

πŸ’‘pulse

Keeping the pulse means maintaining the steady beat or rhythm of a song. When his teacher tells him to keep your mind on the meter, he is instructing Tim to stay locked into the primary pulse of the drumming no matter what fancy fills he chooses to attempt.

Highlights

I'll find the world's best teachers and push myself to the edge to deconstruct, decode and demystify some of the world's toughest challenges in record time.

The challenge is to perform live in Los Angeles with an internationally renowned rock band.

Despite that I've always had a very contentious relationship with music and I have not been able to crack the code.

I'll put the pieces I've selected in the most effective order and the risk of embarrassing the hell out of myself on stage will keep me motivated.

My circuits are totally overloaded with just the basics and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to figure out the drum fills.

Nothing's going to stop this man, he's taking me directly to the enjoyment of drumming alongside other people.

I'm effectively having an anxiety attack if you're trying to learn something very very quickly in a compressed time frame.

You're overthinking this just a little bit...you're in trouble, okay you got your work cut out for you.

Chris's advice to learn the song and not the drums might sound like a fortune cookie but it's really important.

The light bulb is going off...I realize that none of these elements are part of the critical 20% that I need to learn 80% or more of the song.

I was seriously worried that I was going to screw up my muscle memory by playing on a fake drum kit.

I'm a little bit high...I was exhausted up until walking into this place and actually getting a feeling for the space.

Getting this uncomfortable because it just takes that sort of sphere of comfort within which you can act and get good results.

I'm not trying anything new today, except for oh my God I love it yeah baby.

Came here with a blank slate and a fantasy, and was able to not get completely laughed off stage.

Transcripts

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one of the best ways to learn something

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fast is to set Stakes everybody I want

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you to give it up for Mr Tim Ferris over

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there so here it

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goes you could feel the power rising up

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in your loins 5 days this is like the

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first time I looked at Chinese

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characters zero experience you're in

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you're in trouble okay and the world's

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best teachers yeah baby is four or 5

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days really enough time I have my

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doubts

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I'm Tim Ferris everything going up

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best-selling author and human guinea pig

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I'll show you how to make the impossible

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possible by bending the

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RO I'll find the world's best teachers

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and push myself to the edge to

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deconstruct decode and demystify some of

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the world's toughest challenges in

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record

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time if I can do it so can

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you

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this week's experiment is

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drumming the challenge to perform live

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in Los Angeles with an internationally

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renowned rock band growing up my

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favorite Muppet was animal naturally

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despite that I've always had a very

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contentious relationship with music and

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I have not been able to crack the code

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over the next 5 days I will break down

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drumming I'll find the critical 20% of

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material that gives me 80% of what I

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need to reach my goal I'll put the

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pieces I've selected in the most

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effective order and the risk of

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embarrassing the hell out of myself on

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stage will keep me motivated I have

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found an incredible teacher to help me

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with this the Yoda of

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Yodas Stuart Copeland founding member of

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the police widely considered one of the

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top 10 drummers of all time Tim I

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presume it is such a pleasure to finally

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meet you hey how are you doing in

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welcome to the sacred grove this is

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where I do my cool stuff where my fancy

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friends come to

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play St of Copeland a bit like

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Christopher Lloyd and back of the future

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very enthusiastic and gets you really

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fired up I got a secondary percussion

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unit here why is

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that so I imagine I'll be spending a lot

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of the next week in front of something

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like this very close to this yeah this

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pretty

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standard

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right away I notice a lot this drum kid

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is extremely elaborate this symbol here

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plays a short note while this one

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resonates more I can see he's holding

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the sticks differently in each hand also

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his feet are doing two things at

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once look how relaxed his grip is the

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sticks look like they're going to fall

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out of his hands but of course they

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don't and one more thing not a single

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piece of written music in sight

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I don't even know where to start the

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rhythm is broken

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into three components the kick which is

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on the

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floor that's what everyone dances to to

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create interest its contrasting Rhythm

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is a snare

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drum and it's this cross talk that gives

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you your cool Rhythm glued together

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that's the connected TI stuff it's a

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connect

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exactly

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that is all you need to know off to the

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razor your

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turn come on come on I'll try harder

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that was very nice of you to start off

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real quiet like that very delicate very

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delicate take a deep

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breath let's get a starting point here

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there you

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go okay now you got that you're going to

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spend a lot of time doing that right now

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you're doing it but you're tense yeah

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and that's just because your your brain

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is telling and controlling consciously

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every action and what you're going to do

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by just playing is to get outside of

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your

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body

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great ah you're getting power mad oh you

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could feel the power rising up in your

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loins you're a primate an alpha male the

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great silver back making a great noise

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cuz you've got your crash and your kick

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landing

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hard power power loins power loins going

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to be my stage name all right so what is

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a Phil you mentioned a Phil okay once

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you're playing along and everybody's

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happy singer singing a

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song now the drummer is getting

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bored crash and he hopes the rest of the

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band didn't notice CU

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they my circuits are totally overloaded

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with just the basics and I'm not sure

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I'll ever be able to figure out the drum

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fills hang on a second can't stop him

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now raking me out of my shell and almost

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immediately throwing me into a jam

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session with him was very smart

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nothing's going to stop this man he's

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taking me directly to the enjoyment of

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drumming alongside other

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people that's fun it's the dumb right

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now I know the anatomy of a drum kit the

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anatomy of a song is still very very

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difficult to me would you suggest having

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some type of sheet music for drumming to

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follow along with do you understand what

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the dots mean okay well that's kind of a

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hurdle okay my weakness is no big

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surprise reading music figuring out how

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to think of Music in terms of vocabulary

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like measures and notes which is not a

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way that I typically deconstruct what I

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hear I'm effectively having an anxiety

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attack well this is no joke man you're

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going to be playing a real gig with us

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and you don't have much

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time great for session Stuart is amazing

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knows how to get you in the mood for

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music I do on the other hand need to

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learn how to read sheet music or somehow

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practice the song that I'll be playing

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in addition to that I need to develop

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some type of protocol for practicing hey

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what's up man going on man how are you

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good good to see you I'm hoping Adam can

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help me deconstruct the learning process

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for drumming this is the School of Rock

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the School of Rock today we're going to

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be in here we're going to be behind

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these two kits oh awesome okay so we

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play side by side I like this idea that

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school is going to be awesome for you

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this week cuz uh we teach through music

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which accelerates the learning

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process I know you don't know how to

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read music I don't but I charted out

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drum parts for you I mean right now

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you're probably looking at it's foreign

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language yeah this is like the first

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time I looked at Chinese characters yeah

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this is the this is on the floor tom

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you're doing eighth notes so one and two

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and three and four and and then there's

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a Phil so I wrote the biggest problem

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that I have is looking at music

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hearing it dissecting it as notes on a

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sheet of paper I've never done that

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before first four bars of the

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song

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okay oh my God I should learn the

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counting just I mean I'm going to have

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to get there so you're going one and two

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and three and four right now I'm

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throwing a T of stuff against the wall

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to see what sticks maybe it'll be

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reading music maybe it'll be counting

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the beats in my head I don't know

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what'll

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work why am I that up it's so early in

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the process it's very difficult to say I

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know exactly what my game plan is I need

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to figure out the minimum effective dose

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for learning this song that is the

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smallest piece I can focus on to pull

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this off and nothing

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extra Bravo sir

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I don't know which portions I'm going to

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have the most trouble with which will

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then dictate how I schedule my training

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time and what I focus

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on which stresses me out a

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bit here we are it's about 3: in the

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morning and you can see I am not resting

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very

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well I'm effectively having an anxiety

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attack if you're trying to learn

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something very very quickly in a

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compressed time frame you will

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experience extreme frustration at

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predictable points and sometimes

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completely freaking out the question

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remains of course is four or 5 days

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really enough time for me to adapt and

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learn what I need to learn I have my

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doubts oh here's this must be our guy

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I'm here to meet these guys members of

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the legendary band

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Foreigner like the

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time yeah I'm Chris Chris we will be

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talking yes of course that was just

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warming up right oh yeah yeah that was

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just limbering up my tendons and my

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ligaments but that's uh probably not far

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from all I have at the moment well this

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is no joke man you're going to be

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playing a real gig with us yeah playing

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a real song yeah I know and you don't

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have much time been struggling a bit I'm

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not going to lie uh it's it's my first

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time really tackling music so just

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trying to keep the timing in my head

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it's been challenging to figure out what

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to practice because I'm not sure how

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much do I focus on Phils versus let's

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say grooves for the verse and the intro

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and then I've don't know how to read

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music this this is the first time I've

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looked at anything like this you're

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overthinking this just a little bit well

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that's what I'm so I need your help to

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avoid it you're in you're in trouble

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okay you got your work cut out for

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you but you also picked one of the

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hardest songs too because it has a rock

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feel in it but it has a a touch of R&B

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and touch a swing to it would you

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practice this chronologically or exactly

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linearly or you would okay I wouldn't I

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wouldn't just I just wouldn't worry too

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much I I just think Play the song don't

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play the drums okay all right let's good

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advice Chris's advice to learn the song

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and not the drums might sound like a

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fortune cookie but it's really important

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it means put simply that I should learn

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the drums through Hot Blooded not learn

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the drums then try to play Hot Blooded

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what we have to say to you is good luck

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thank you

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sir

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the goal is to learn Hot Blooded now I

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just have to figure out the minimum

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effective dose the keys to unlock the

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song I kind of actually today I wanted

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to maybe put that aside yeah yeah just

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sh that paper notes words who needs it

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Adam's right trying to learn to read

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music is not working for me there has to

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be a more effective way the question is

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what is it what I wanted to do is

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actually just break it up and just get

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the main grooves of the song Finally the

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light bulb is going off until now I was

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getting totally overwhelmed trying to

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simultaneously learn to read music count

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in my head all while adding in the fills

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or embellishments now I realize that

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none of these elements are part of the

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critical 20% that I need to learn 80% or

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more of the song There are three grooves

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that make up the song Hot Blooded the

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verse the chorus and the pre chorus that

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is my 20% and that's what I'm going to

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focus on to get me prepared for game day

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and the Big

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Show

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playing Hot Blooded ad nauseum over and

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over again rinse and repeat does wonders

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for your

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confidence holy I have to play that

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tomorrow I can omit the crash symbols I

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can omit the fancy bass drum work I can

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omit any of the flourishes and as long

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as I can keep the heartbeat going I'm in

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great shape

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hey yeah

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baby on one hand I was seriously worried

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that I was going to screw up my muscle

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memory by playing on a fake drum kit but

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I was actually smiling and having a good

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time which wasn't the case earlier this

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week that was

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awesome this is what guitarists do which

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is really annoying get right in your

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face yeah you're right that is Prett

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annoying

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I'm a little bit

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[Music]

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high you're a little bit sh hey hey man

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to see you again how you doing I'm doing

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well this is where I've been spending my

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solitary confinement oh cool I think

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what I should do is just kind of see how

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far you've come and where you're

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at as Chris was watching me for the very

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first time I totally immediately flued

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it and then settled in and played the

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rest of the song well before he timed

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out and made some very good

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suggestions so you did a fill where you

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you played with your left hand and the

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thing about it is since you're

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right-handed I'm I'm assuming you're

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right-handed it's going to be easier for

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you to to lead your fills with your

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right hand the big decision is do I go

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for the fills and try to get fancy and

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risk blowing the whole thing or do I

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focus

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on and doing that until my brains melt

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of

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boredom uh we shall see you got to get

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some of this going man you know just

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smile at the audience you know and point

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at the girls that you want backstage you

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you I like this rockar thing already

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definitely starting to feel the

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electricity the spider sense of a live

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performance never felt it

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before just going straight through that

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way all right well I can see why this

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would become a addictive drug for people

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to play rock and roll ad absolutely it's

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unlike anything else

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wild having a spinal tap

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moment I was exhausted up until walking

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into this place and actually getting a

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feeling for the space are you ready for

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the pre-show forigner ritual that we all

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do toss the

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carrot

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yes two one 2 three

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4 what's happening hey it's getting

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getting settled as ready as I'm going to

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be if you can catch that break with us

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though that'd be really great yeah you

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know I wasn't sure exactly I like doing

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things like this as odd as it seems

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getting this uncomfortable because it

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just takes that sort of sphere of

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comfort within which you can act and get

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good results and it just

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goeser I don't know what a serer is I

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don't know what spiking it means either

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and the more you do that the more you

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inoculate yourself against making

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mistakes when you're afraid you're still

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afraid I'm not trying anything new today

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except for oh my God I love it yeah baby

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what's up now David ler

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Ross come on in hey hey hey that sounded

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like a drummer knock look at you and

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your snake skin all right how are you

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man good how was yesterday yesterday was

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great yesterday was great I had to make

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some decisions about what fills to cut

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and which ones to keep I had all kinds

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of great advice as soon as you walked

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out the door all kinds of Pearls of

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Wisdom occur to me but I won't hit you

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with any of them now because I'll just

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you up yeah I appreciate that I can't

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stand it one pearl of wisdom and then

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that's it okay all right I knew I saw

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something eating at you yeah yeah yeah

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is to keep plowing through whatever you

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do the drum fill yeah is just play play

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throw yourself off the clip but keep

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your mind on the meter Mind Over meter

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yeah we were

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approached by a young man named Tim

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Ferris he he said to himself I want to

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play drums with a famous rock band and

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we said you're great

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crazy everybody I want you to give it up

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for Mr Tim Ferris over

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there here we go one 2 one 2

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3

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well checking

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Tre got a f

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on3

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I'm high I'm

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high get don't have to read my

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mind to know what I have in

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mind are

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you will you be ready when I call your

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love my

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time you got to get away from my you

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know

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what you making me

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[Music]

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sing with me baby you know I'm going to

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go yeah you turn me

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[Music]

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on

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came here with a blank slate and a

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fantasy

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and was able to not get completely

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laughed off

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stage and I've come away from this

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feeling like if that was possible what

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other Impossibles do I have in my life

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that I should really

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question give it up for Tim Ferris

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everybody on the drums

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never did it

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[Applause]

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before hey guys Tim Ferris here one of

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the things that kills me about TV is

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that you have to take all of this

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amazing footage in our case we had 5 to

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six days of of 12 to 16 hours typically

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per day and you have to chop it down to

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21 or 22

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minutes which is a 30-minute show with

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the ads removed it just makes me want to

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stab myself in the eyeballs with bicycle

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spokes it's so agonizing the good news

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is we have all that footage and so we've

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taken huge extended scenes we've taken

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interviews we've taken tutorials

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everything imaginable that we could get

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our hands on that we thought was really

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world class that we wanted to put in and

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you can find it at 4hourworkweek

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docva and we really feel like we could

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have made the best 2hour documentary

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imaginable on the subject that you just

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saw or had five different shows of equal

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quality all different with the footage

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that we captured so please check it out

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there's some amazing stuff and you can

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also check out the podcast where I do

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very long in some cases two to three

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hour interviews with a lot of the

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experts in this show and that's the Tim

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Ferris show which was nominated one of

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the best of iTunes which I'm very very

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happy about and you can check out both

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so find everything at 4work week.com

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sltv and if you think that's an oxymoron

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by the way you're right if you want a

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4-Hour Work Week do not work in

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television thank you for

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watching