Plato's Concept of the Self

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22 Oct 202008:41

Summary

TLDRThe script delves into Plato's concept of the self, highlighting the ancient Greek philosopher's view of the soul as the true essence of a person. Plato's tripartite division of the soulβ€”rational, spirited, and appetitiveβ€”underscores the rational soul's supremacy as the moral and cognitive guide. The allegory of the chariot illustrates the struggle between desire and spirit, with the rational soul as the charioteer directing them towards the realm of truth and reality. Plato posits that a harmonized soul, controlled by reason, results in a well-balanced personality, encapsulating his perspective on the self.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“š Ancient Greek philosophy lacks a systematic articulation of the concept of the self but focuses on questions about human nature and identity.
  • 🧠 Plato's concept of the self is closely tied to the notion of the soul, which he sees as the rational and intellectual part of a person, separable from the body.
  • πŸ’­ The human person, according to Plato, is a dichotomy of body and soul, with the body being material and destructible, and the soul being immaterial and eternal.
  • 🧐 Plato views the soul as having three parts: the rational soul, the spiritual soul, and the appetitive soul, each located in different parts of the body and serving different functions.
  • πŸ† The rational soul is considered superior in Plato's philosophy, acting as the moral and rational guide for the other two parts of the soul.
  • 🌟 In Plato's allegory of the chariot, the rational soul is the charioteer, tasked with controlling the two horses representing the mortal and immortal aspects of the soul.
  • 🐎 The mortal horse symbolizes the appetitive soul, which is described as stubborn and difficult to control, while the immortal horse represents the spiritual soul, noble and easily guided.
  • πŸ›£οΈ The charioteer's destination is the ridge of heaven, where he may behold the forms or essences of things like beauty, wisdom, courage, justice, and goodness.
  • πŸ”„ The struggle between the two horses in the allegory illustrates the internal conflict within a person between desire and spirit, which the rational soul must harmonize.
  • 🧭 For Plato, a well-balanced personality is achieved when the rational soul successfully controls the spiritual and appetitive souls, reflecting a harmonious and purposeful life.

Q & A

  • What is the fundamental concept of the self in Plato's philosophy?

    -In Plato's philosophy, the fundamental concept of the self is closely tied to the idea of the soul, which he considers as the rational part that constitutes a person's identity and is separable from the body.

  • Why is there no full articulation of the concept of the self in ancient Greek philosophy?

    -Ancient Greek philosophy, including Plato's, does not provide a systematic articulation of the self because it was more focused on questions regarding the fundamental truth about human nature and what defines an individual's identity.

  • How does Plato conceive of the human person in terms of body and soul?

    -Plato conceives of the human person as a dichotomy of body and soul, where the body is the material and destructible part, and the soul is the immaterial and indestructible part that is the true self.

  • What is the relationship between the concepts of the self and knowledge in Plato's philosophy?

    -For Plato, the concepts of the self and knowledge are inextricably linked because his concept of the self is practically constructed on the basis of his reflections on the nature of the rational soul as the highest form of cognition.

  • What are the three parts of the soul according to Plato?

    -According to Plato, the soul has three parts: the rational soul, the spiritual soul, and the appetitive soul, each located in the head, chest, and abdomen respectively and serving different cognitive and emotional functions.

  • Why is the rational soul considered superior to the spiritual and appetitive souls?

    -The rational soul is considered superior because it serves as the moral and rational guide for the spiritual and appetitive souls, enabling a person to think, reflect, analyze, and perform other cognitive functions.

  • What is the allegory of the chariot and how does it illustrate the role of the rational soul?

    -The allegory of the chariot is a metaphor developed by Plato to illustrate the role of the rational soul as the charioteer, which must control and harmonize the two horses representing the spiritual and appetitive souls to reach the realm of gods, a place of illumination, reality, and truth.

  • What do the two winged horses in the allegory of the chariot represent?

    -In the allegory, the two winged horses represent the spiritual and appetitive aspects of the soul. The mortal horse symbolizes the appetitive soul with desires and the immortal horse symbolizes the spiritual soul with emotions.

  • What is the destination of the charioteer in the allegory of the chariot?

    -The destination of the charioteer is the ridge of heaven where he may behold the forms, which represent the essences of things like beauty, wisdom, courage, justice, and goodness.

  • How does Plato describe the struggle between the two horses in the allegory of the chariot?

    -Plato describes the struggle as the mortal horse pulling the chariot back towards the earth while the immortal horse wishes to rise and reach the destination. The charioteer's task is to harmonize these opposing forces.

  • What does a well-balanced personality represent in Plato's philosophy?

    -A well-balanced personality in Plato's philosophy represents the successful control of the spiritual and appetitive souls by the rational soul, leading to harmony and alignment with the realm of forms and the pursuit of truth and virtue.

Outlines

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🧠 Plato's Concept of the Self and the Rational Soul

This paragraph delves into Plato's philosophical stance on the self, highlighting the absence of a systematic articulation of the self in ancient Greek philosophy. It emphasizes the soul as the true self, particularly the rational soul, which is considered the highest form of cognition. Plato's view of the human person as a dichotomy of body and soul is explored, with the soul being immaterial, indestructible, and eternal, in contrast to the body's material and destructible nature. The paragraph also outlines the tripartite structure of the soul according to Plato: the rational, spiritual, and appetitive parts, with the rational soul being superior and serving as a moral and rational guide. The allegory of the chariot is introduced as a metaphor for the struggle between the mortal and immortal aspects of the soul, with the rational soul as the charioteer, aiming to guide the soul towards the realm of truth and reality.

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🐎 The Allegory of the Chariot: Control and Harmony of the Soul

The second paragraph continues the discussion on Plato's concept of the self, focusing on the allegory of the chariot to illustrate the dynamics between the rational soul and the other parts of the soul. It describes the chariot being pulled by two horses representing the mortal and immortal aspects of the soul, with the charioteer symbolizing the rational soul's role in controlling and harmonizing these aspects. The mortal horse is depicted as stubborn and difficult to manage, while the immortal horse is noble and easily guided by admonition. The charioteer's ultimate goal is to reach the 'ridge of heaven' to behold the forms, which represent the essences of virtues like beauty, wisdom, courage, and justice. The paragraph underscores the importance of the rational soul's vision and purpose in achieving a well-balanced personality by successfully controlling the spiritual and appetitive souls, thus reflecting Plato's view on the true self.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Self

The 'self' in the context of the video refers to the concept of individual identity and consciousness, particularly as understood in ancient Greek philosophy and specifically by Plato. It is central to the video's theme, as it explores how the self is perceived as the rational soul, distinct from the body. The script notes that while Plato does not provide a full articulation of the self, he does link it to the capacity for reason and action, suggesting the self is fundamentally cognitive.

πŸ’‘Soul

The 'soul' is a key concept in the video, representing the immaterial and indestructible part of a human being, which Plato argues is the true self. It is portrayed as the seat of reason and intellect, separable from the body, and eternal. The script uses the allegory of the chariot to illustrate the soul's tripartite nature, consisting of the rational, spiritual, and appetitive parts, with the rational soul being the superior guide.

πŸ’‘Rational Soul

The 'rational soul' is defined as the part of the soul that enables cognitive functions such as thinking, reflecting, and analyzing. It is considered the highest form of cognition and is linked to the concept of the self in Plato's philosophy. In the script, the rational soul is likened to the charioteer, responsible for guiding the other parts of the soul towards truth and knowledge.

πŸ’‘Spiritual Soul

The 'spiritual soul' is one of the three parts of the soul as described by Plato. It is associated with emotions such as happiness, joy, sadness, and anger. The script positions the spiritual soul as being under the guidance of the rational soul, which helps to harmonize emotional responses with reason.

πŸ’‘Appetitive Soul

The 'appetitive soul' is the part of the soul that drives physical desires and experiences such as hunger, thirst, and pain. It is depicted in the script as the mortal horse in the allegory of the chariot, pulling in the opposite direction of the immortal horse, symbolizing the struggle between base desires and higher aspirations.

πŸ’‘Chariot Allegory

The 'chariot allegory' is a metaphor used by Plato to describe the relationship between the different parts of the soul and their control over human behavior. In the script, it is used to illustrate the struggle for control between the rational soul (charioteer) and the spiritual and appetitive souls (the two horses), emphasizing the need for balance and harmony.

πŸ’‘Cognition

Cognition refers to the mental process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses. In the video, cognition is closely tied to the concept of the rational soul, which Plato views as the highest form of cognition. The script suggests that the rational soul's role in cognition is fundamental to understanding the true self.

πŸ’‘Dichotomy

The term 'dichotomy' in the script refers to the division of the human person into two distinct parts: the body and the soul. This concept is central to Plato's philosophy, where the body is material and destructible, while the soul is immaterial and eternal, highlighting the separation between physical existence and the essence of the self.

πŸ’‘Eternal

The 'eternal' nature of the soul is a key point in the script, emphasizing that the soul, as the true self, does not die with the body but continues to exist indefinitely. This concept is integral to Plato's view of the self and its immortality, contrasting the temporary nature of the physical body.

πŸ’‘Harmony

In the context of the video, 'harmony' is the state of balance and agreement between the different parts of the soul, as guided by the rational soul. The script uses the allegory of the chariot to illustrate the importance of harmonizing the spiritual and appetitive souls to achieve a well-balanced personality.

πŸ’‘Moral Guide

The 'moral guide' refers to the role of the rational soul in directing and influencing moral behavior. The script describes how the rational soul should control the spiritual and appetitive souls to ensure moral and rational actions, reflecting Plato's belief in the soul's role in ethical conduct.

Highlights

Plato's concept of the self is not fully articulated but is linked to the notion of the soul.

Ancient Greek philosophy lacks a systematic articulation of the self but explores fundamental human nature and identity.

The self in ancient Greek thought is understood as human persons capable of reason and action, pointing to the idea of the soul.

Plato views the true self of a human as the rational soul, separable from the body.

The self and knowledge are inextricably linked in Plato's philosophy, based on reflections on the rational soul.

Plato describes the human person as a dichotomy of body and soul, with the soul being immaterial and indestructible.

The soul is eternal and resides in the body temporarily, according to Plato.

Plato's tripartite theory of the soul includes the rational, spiritual, and appetitive parts.

The rational soul is superior and serves as the moral and rational guide, located in the head.

The spiritual soul, located in the chest, is responsible for emotional feelings.

The appetitive soul, in the abdomen, drives physical experiences such as hunger and thirst.

In Plato's allegory of the chariot, the rational soul is the charioteer, guiding the horses representing desire and spirit.

The charioteer's task is to harmonize the two horses to reach the realm of gods, a place of truth and reality.

The mortal horse represents insolence and pride, while the immortal horse symbolizes honor and modesty.

The charioteer's vision and purpose are crucial for controlling the horses and reaching the destination.

A well-balanced personality is attained when the rational soul successfully controls the spiritual and appetitive souls.

Plato's view of the true self emphasizes the importance of the rational soul in achieving harmony and understanding.

Transcripts

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play this concept of the self

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can be gleaned from his notion of the

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soul

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this is because and it must be noted

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from the outset

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we cannot find in plato a full

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articulation

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of the concept of the self

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in fact in ancient greek philosophy we

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could not

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find any systematic articulation of the

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concept of the self

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what we can find when we study the

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ancient greeks conception of the self

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are questions like what is the

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fundamental truth about human nature

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or what defines the fundamental identity

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of an individual

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these questions however give us an idea

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of

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how the ancient greek philosophers

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understand the self

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that is as human persons capable

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of reason and action

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and if one is quite familiar with

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ancient greek philosophy

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these aspects of the human person that

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is the capacity to think

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and act point to the idea of the soul

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again this explains why we always refer

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to the soul

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when we study plato's concept of the

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self

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as a matter of fact in many of his

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dialogues

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plato contends that the true self of the

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human person

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is the rational soul that is

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the reason or the intellect that

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constitutes the person's soul

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and which is separable from the body

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so how does play to conceive of the soul

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as the true self of humans

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well plato conceives of the self as

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a knower hence for plato

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the concepts of the self and knowledge

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are inextricably linked this is because

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plato's concept of the self is

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practically constructed

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on the basis of his reflections on the

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nature of the rational soul

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as the highest form of cognition

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but it must be noted that for plato the

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human person is composed of

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body and soul in other words

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the human person is a dichotomy of

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body and soul the body

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is the material and destructible part of

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the human person

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while the soul is the immaterial and

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indestructible part

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plato argues that the soul is really an

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entity distinct from the body indeed

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for plato the soul is the self

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as we can see the body and the soul can

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be separated

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in fact plato believes that the soul is

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just residing in the body temporarily

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thus in plato's concept of the self we

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have the idea that

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when the human person dies the soul

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departs from the body leaving the latter

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to decompose

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and because the soul is immaterial and

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indestructible

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it cannot die it is eternal

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according to plato the soul conceived of

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a

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self has three parts namely

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the rational soul the spiritual soul

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and the repetitive soul

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according to plato the rational soul is

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located

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in the head being located in the head

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the rational soul enables the human

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person to

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think reflect analyze and do

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other cognitive functions

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the spiritual soul on the other hand is

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located

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in the chest it enables the person to

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experience

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happiness joy sadness abomination

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anger and other emotional feelings

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lastly the appetitive soul is located in

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the abdomen

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this is the part of the soul that drives

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the human person to experience

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physical pain hunger thirst

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and other physical ones

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now according to plato the rational soul

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is superior to the spiritual soul and a

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petitive soul

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as it serves as their moral and rational

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guide

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in the allegory of the chariot which

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plato developed in his

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work figerus plato illustrated the role

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of the rational soul as the charioteer

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the charioteer's role is to drive his

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horses

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onward and upward keeping his team

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working together in harmony towards

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the realm of gods a place of

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illumination

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reality and truth

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as narrated in ephedras the chariot is

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pulled by two winged horses

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one mortal and the other immortal

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on the one hand the mortal horse is

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deformed and obstinate plato describes

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it

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as a crooked lumbering animal of a dark

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color

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with gray eyes and blood red complexion

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the mate of insolence and pride

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shag-eared in death

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hardly yielding to whip and spur

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on the other hand the immortal horse is

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noble and game upright and cleanly made

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his collar is white and his eyes dark

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he is a lover of honor and modesty

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and temperance and the follower of true

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glory

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he needs no touch of the whip but is

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guided

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by word and admonition only

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in the driver's seat is the charioteer

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whose task is to control

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both horses guiding and harnessing them

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to propel the chariot with speed and

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efficiency

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plato says that the destination of the

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charioteer

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is the ridge of heaven beyond which

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he may behold the forms that is

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the essences of things like beauty

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wisdom courage justice and

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goodness now

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the white horse wishes to rise and reach

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the destination

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but the dark horse pulls the chariot

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back towards the earth

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they pull in opposite directions

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as we can see the two horses are very

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different

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and they struggled against each other

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for this reason the task of the

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charioteer

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is difficult and troublesome

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but if the charioteer wishes to reach

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his destination

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then he must harmonize the two horses by

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controlling them

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in relation to the self plato shows that

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the black and white horses represent

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desire

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and spirit respectively while the

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charioteer

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represents the person's reason or the

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rational

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soul and as the rational soul

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the charioteer must have a vision and

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purpose

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he must know where he is heading

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and he must know and understand the

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nature of the two

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horses if he wishes to properly harness

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the chariot

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and reach his destination

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the rational soul as the true self

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therefore

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must at all times control the spiritual

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and repetitive soul and according to

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plato

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if the rational soul is successful in

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controlling the spiritual and repetitive

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souls

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that is if the charioteer is able to

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harmonize the two horses

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a well-balanced personality is attained

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indeed this is in a nutshell

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how plato views the true self

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