The Truth About Dubai’s New 9% Tax

Summary

Видео обсуждает новый налог в размере 9% в ОАЭ, который затрагивает предпринимателей, учредивших компании в свободных экономических зонах Дубая. Ведущий развенчивает мифы и предлагает альтернативы для снижения налоговой нагрузки, подчеркивая важность выбора стратегии с учетом личного образа жизни. Он предлагает рассмотреть другие страны с более привлекательным налоговым режимом, такие как Ирландия, Мальта, Кипр, и дает советы по оптимизации налогов, основываясь на своем опыте работы в Nomad Capitalist.

Takeaways

• 😀 Dubai's new 9% corporate tax rate is frustrating entrepreneurs used to 0% tax
• 😞 Taking all profits as salary to avoid corporate tax likely won't work
• 😯 Anti-avoidance rules in UAE target transactions solely for tax avoidance
• 🤔 Better to have low personal tax rate and 0% corporate rate
• 😠 Dubai not an easy jurisdiction for remotely running an international company
• 😀 Non-dom countries like Ireland and Malta offer EU citizenship and <5% rates
• 👍 Spain, Italy residency by investment programs offer EU citizenship route
• 😊 With proper planning many places offer better lifestyle + lower taxes than Dubai
• ✈️ Dubai still an option to maintain assets/base but better to live elsewhere
• 💡 Get professional advice on global company structure and residence based on your goals

Q & A

Какой налог был введен в ОАЭ для бизнеса в свободных зонах?

Был введен налог в размере 9% для бизнеса в свободных зонах ОАЭ.

Какие типы доходов в ОАЭ облагаются налогом для физических лиц?

В ОАЭ облагаются налогом доходы от дивидендов, авторских прав, например, от книг, песен, YouTube каналов.

Как можно избежать налогообложения корпоративных доходов в ОАЭ?

Один из предложенных способов - выплачивать себе зарплату, так как ОАЭ не облагает налогом личный доход от бизнеса.

Какие ограничения существуют в ОАЭ при выплате зарплаты для уменьшения налогов?

Зарплата должна быть обоснованной и отражать реальную рыночную стоимость работы. Искусственно завышенная зарплата может не считаться полностью налогооблагаемым расходом.

Какие альтернативы существуют для снижения налоговой нагрузки вместо регистрации компании в ОАЭ?

Существуют альтернативы в виде переноса компании в юрисдикции без налогов или с низкими налогами, такие как Ирландия, Мальта, Кипр и Великобритания.

Почему ОАЭ могут не быть идеальным местом для ведения бизнеса на расстоянии?

В ОАЭ компании не предназначены для удаленного управления, и может быть сложно управлять бизнесом не находясь в стране.

Какие преимущества предлагают европейские страны для снижения налоговой нагрузки по сравнению с ОАЭ?

Европейские страны могут предложить более низкую налоговую ставку, возможность получения гражданства и удобства для жизни и бизнеса.

Какие страны позволяют снизить налоговую нагрузку для больших доходов, альтернативно ОАЭ?

Италия, Швейцария, Ирландия, Мальта и Кипр предлагают программы, которые могут позволить значительно снизить налоговую нагрузку.

Может ли переезд в Европу быть выгоднее для налогообложения, чем проживание в ОАЭ?

Да, переезд в некоторые европейские страны может быть выгоднее за счет более низких налогов и преимуществ в получении гражданства.

Что предлагает Nomad Capitalist людям, желающим снизить налоговую нагрузку?

Nomad Capitalist помогает людям законно снижать налоги, учитывая их образ жизни и предлагает индивидуальные решения для оптимизации налоговой нагрузки.

Outlines

00:00

🌐 Обзор налоговых изменений в Дубае и их влияние на бизнес

В этом разделе обсуждается сообщение от близкого к миллиардеру человека, который выразил разочарование в связи с новым налогом в размере 9% в Дубае, который теперь применяется к его бизнесу. Рассматриваются заблуждения относительно этого налога и его влияние на предпринимателей, основавших свои компании в свободных зонах Дубая. Автор подчеркивает, что платить 9% налога приемлемо, если Дубай или любая другая часть ОАЭ является желаемым местом проживания. Однако проблема возникает, когда компании в свободных зонах ОАЭ начинают платить 9% налог без видимой выгоды, что усложняет структуру бизнеса и налоговые обязательства.

05:00

📉 Разбор мифов о налоговых лазейках и реальных налоговых обязательствах

В этом разделе развенчиваются распространенные заблуждения относительно налогообложения в ОАЭ. Обсуждается предложение о том, что можно избежать налогов, принимая зарплату вместо дивидендов, однако это не всегда является реалистичным решением из-за различных законодательных ограничений, включая правила о «чрезмерной зарплате» и общие антиуклонительные нормы ОАЭ. Также рассматриваются альтернативы налогообложения для американцев и других иностранных предпринимателей, живущих в ОАЭ, подчеркивая, что многие из этих предложений не являются оптимальными и могут привести к высоким налоговым обязательствам.

10:02

🌍 Альтернативы ОАЭ: Налоговые стратегии и возможности гражданства

В этом разделе обсуждаются альтернативы ОАЭ для предпринимателей, стремящихся минимизировать налоги и рассматривающих возможности получения гражданства. Автор предлагает различные стратегии и локации, такие как Ирландия, Мальта, Кипр, Великобритания и несколько европейских программ, которые могут предложить более выгодные налоговые условия и пути к гражданству. Обсуждаются критерии выбора подходящей страны, включая налоговые ставки, требования к проживанию и потенциал получения паспорта. Автор подчеркивает важность тщательного выбора страны в соответствии с личными и бизнес-целями.

15:03

📈 Заключительные рекомендации по налоговому планированию и выбору страны

В заключительном разделе подводятся итоги и даются рекомендации по налоговому планированию и выбору страны для ведения бизнеса. Автор рассматривает различные опции, включая программы в Европе и Карибском бассейне, и подчеркивает, что важно не следовать за толпой, а принимать обоснованные решения, исходя из индивидуальных целей и предпочтений. Также поднимается вопрос о ценности услуг, которые предлагает 'Nomad Capitalist', включая их подход к выбору налоговой юрисдикции и уникальных условий для каждого клиента.

Keywords

💡Дубай

Дубай упоминается как место проживания миллиардера и многих предпринимателей, привлекаемых низкими налогами и деловой средой. В контексте видео, Дубай представлен как пример места, где вводится новый налог в размере 9% для бизнесов, что вызывает разочарование среди предпринимателей, рассчитывавших на 0% корпоративного налога.

💡9% налог

Этот новый налоговый сбор вводится в Дубае для компаний, зарегистрированных в свободных экономических зонах, и составляет 9% от прибыли. В видео обсуждается, как этот налог влияет на предпринимателей и ищутся способы его оптимизации или обхода, а также рассматриваются альтернативные страны с более привлекательным налоговым режимом.

💡Номад Капиталист

Название компании или сервиса, предлагающего консультации по оптимизации налогов и выбору страны для жизни и ведения бизнеса. В контексте видео, 'Номад Капиталист' помогает клиентам законно снижать налоговые отчисления, учитывая при этом их желаемый образ жизни и бизнес-цели.

💡Свободная зона

Упоминается в контексте Дубая как специально выделенные территории с льготным налоговым режимом для иностранных компаний. Видео подчеркивает, что новый 9% налог теперь применяется и к компаниям в этих зонах, что изменяет прежние условия их привлекательности.

💡Личный доход

Обсуждается в контексте налоговой стратегии, где предложено, что предприниматели могут избежать корпоративных налогов, принимая доход в виде зарплаты, поскольку в Дубае личный доход не облагается налогом. Однако видео также указывает на сложности и ограничения этого подхода.

💡Зарубежный доход

Упоминается в контексте американских предпринимателей, использующих иностранные компании и иностранный заработанный доход для снижения налогов. Видео обсуждает, как изменения в налоговом законодательстве и введение 9% налога в Дубае влияют на стратегии налогового планирования для таких доходов.

💡Исключения налогов

В контексте видео обсуждаются изменения в налоговом законодательстве Дубая, согласно которым уменьшается количество исключений для компаний в свободных зонах, что приводит к обязательным налоговым отчислениям в размере 9% для большего числа бизнесов.

💡Налоговая оптимизация

Процесс законного снижения налогового бремени через выбор юрисдикции для ведения бизнеса и жизни, а также через использование различных налоговых стратегий. В видео подчеркивается, что 'Номад Капиталист' помогает клиентам в этом процессе, предлагая альтернативы Дубаю с более выгодными налоговыми условиями.

💡Экономически обоснованные транзакции

В контексте обхода налоговых правил, видео указывает на то, что важно, чтобы транзакции имели реальную экономическую цель, а не проводились исключительно для избежания налогов. Это связано с антиизбегательными правилами, применяемыми во многих юрисдикциях, включая Дубай.

💡Глобальная мобильность

Концепция, лежащая в основе услуг 'Номад Капиталист', подразумевающая возможность выбора страны для жизни и ведения бизнеса в зависимости от налоговых условий, образа жизни и других факторов. Видео подчеркивает преимущества глобальной мобильности для оптимизации налогов и улучшения качества жизни.

Highlights

New 9% tax rate in Dubai's free zones is frustrating entrepreneurs

Workaround by taking all profits as salary does not actually avoid 9% tax

Anti-avoidance rules in UAE target transactions solely for tax avoidance

Recommend moving company out of UAE to other zero tax jurisdictions

Non-dom programs in Europe like Ireland, Malta and Cyprus offer lower taxes

Can structure company offshore while living in Portugal to pay 0% tax

Italy has favorable lump sum tax for high net worth individuals

Most passports easier and faster to get than UAE while paying less tax

With second passport from Caribbean, can keep business in UAE but not live there

Europe offers path to citizenship in 5-10 years while paying under 5% tax

Central America, Eastern Europe, Asia also have low tax rates

UAE not ideal jurisdiction for remotely running an international company

Instagram 'set up in Dubai' ads don't give full picture for high net worth

Detailed professional advice essential when structuring multinational business

Apply for help from Nomad Capitalist in assessing options

Transcripts

a couple months ago I woke up early in

the morning to a message from a near

billionaire he told me he loves living

in Dubai but he's frustrated with the

new 9% tax rate that applies to his

business we told you that a lot of

entrepreneurs who set up companies in

Dubai's free zones are now subject to

this 9% tax and people push back saying

no there's a simple work around but

today I'm going to tell you the truth

about Dubai's 9%

tax

[Music]

now before we get started let me be

clear about one thing there's nothing

wrong with paying 9% tax if Dubai or

anywhere else in the UAE is a place that

you want to live here at Nomad

capitalist we help people legally reduce

their taxes some people want to

eliminate them some people are happy to

reduce them but we always keep lifestyle

in mind the UAE gives you a place where

you can live as long as you want you can

live there every day of the year if you

want and you can pay with still a pretty

low rate of tax so if Dubai is the place

you want to go and as long as you

understand all the other tax friendly

countries you could move to that you are

passing on to go to Dubai we've helped

our clients up to 31 of them including

some you've probably never heard of like

Italy or Greece as long as you're clear

about all the options and you decide to

buy the place for you nothing wrong with

paying 9% tax but the issue is if you

have a company in a UAE free zone and

now you're paying 9% tax for nothing

that's not only complicating your

structure because I generally think it's

easier to pay personal tax

and keep your business tax structure at

zero creates a lot more neutrality so if

you went to the UAE and search of that

0% tax a lot of entrepreneurs we told

you before uh under the new rules that

came out uh and were finalized in

October you're now paying 9% and if

you're not actually living in Dubai why

would you pay 9% when you could put your

company in any number of other places

heck you can put your company in other

places and then still go live in Dubai

although some of the rules rules they

put in place prohibit that we're going

to get into that so let's go through

some of the misconceptions that people

have thrown out when we told you hey a

lot of businesses are going to pay 9%

tax in Dubai definitely check out that

episode by the way we'll be talking

about this new uh rule in detail I was

on the radio in Dubai in 2022 when they

announced hey this new 9% tax it's going

to be onshore uh free zones won't be

affected I actually thought they would

keep the more tax exemptions on free

zones for longer but we were aware of

this change back back in mid

2022 um and people in the UAE invited us

to uh to comment on it on places like

the radio that actually started in July

2023 so people have been saying oh this

has been happening for some time yes

depending on how you set up and when you

set up your company really when you set

it up uh this could have started as

early as July 2023 it also started as

late as January 2024 for some others

depending on uh the way that the

business was set up some of the biggest

changes came I think rather quietly in

October of 202 23 and we actually got in

touch with our clients who were affected

and basically what changed was that a

lot of companies would pay this new 9%

tax and that a lot fewer exemptions

would exist in the free zones so here's

one of the first things that people said

well don't worry about the 9% tax yes it

will apply to you but there's a

workaround so here's one of the proposed

workarounds just take a salary so the

UAE remains taxfree for individuals now

it's not taxfree if you have dividend

income royalty income from a book a song

a YouTube channel uh those are taxed at

source and if that Source doesn't have a

tax treaty with the UAE you may pay the

highest withholding tax rate so if all

your money comes from dividends from US

Stocks the UAE is one of the worst

places in the world you could live um

but you're going to pay zero on income

that you make from any kind of you know

personal business and so people say well

just take a salary so let's say your

company you know earns a profit just

take it all out his salary and then the

salary comes as a tax deduction right

cuz you're I think one thing people have

to understand when they're going

offshore that they often don't

understand in their home country is that

you and your company are different

entities I think especially a lot of

Americans who use llc's don't get that

they look at just kind of one pile of

money your company is a profit your

payment to

yourself is taxable to you personally

which in the UAE you want personal

income that's like in a lot of Western

countries the business is taxed better

than the individual in the UAE it's

flipped so any personal income you can

get is better now first things first if

you are an American and you use the

foreign earned income exclusion which is

the easiest way to reduce what you've

historically been able to do is move let

of the United States set up a foreign

company often you know it is zero tax

jurisdiction uh is a good idea uh

obviously it's different for everybody

but a lot of Americans will set up in a

zero tax jurisdiction which the UAE was

until recently uh they would take out

their their foreign earned income

exclusion between 9 10 now it's getting

close to $111,000 a month a little less

and that foreign income exclusion gives

you your income for free basically you

know no social security no Medicare none

of that but then the rest of the money

had to stay in the company but hey it

was zero and then a while back they

changed it to where now you have to pay

some basic level of

tax but hey uh you're still printing

pretty low tax but if you take money out

of that corporate structure you're going

to pay a much higher tax so just taking

a huge salary let's say you run a

million dollar $5 million company if

you're an American you can't do that you

say okay great I'm not an American well

let me give you a couple points it's not

ideal so I talked to our uh tax

researcher on our team we have people we

have a team of five and a half full-time

people who are doing research all around

the world we have a network of tax

experts all around the world and we

actually like know what's going on in

these different countries and we

actually know what you can do and what

you can't do because it's not as people

think so let's say you've got a company

where you make a couple million dollars

a year here while there is no specific

provision that forces salaries to be

quote unquote reasonable number one the

general rules that expenditure must be

incur incurred wholly and exclusively

for the purpose of the business if the

expenditure is incurred for non-

business purposes then it must be added

back when calculating taxable income

basically this is the case in a number

of places in different wording different

names uh you can't just treat the

company like your personal piggy bank

and take it all out and do things that

are for your sole personal tax benefit

moreover UAE law further clear ifies

that expenditure is not incurred for the

purposes of the taxable uh person's

business are not tax deductible number

two if the salary is artificially

excessive and that's the term and does

not reflect a legitimate and fair market

composition for work being performed by

the shareholder the expense could

potentially no longer be considered

wholly and exclusively for the business

of for the purpose of the business and

therefore not fully tax deductible

number three furthermore the UAE has put

in place general anti-avoidance rules

which Target transactions in which there

is no real econom mic or commercial

purpose meaning that transactions only

take place for tax avoidance purposes

these rules can potentially also affect

an excessive salary now people are often

looking for you know clear black and

white on every part of their scenario in

the tax uh world and there are times

when you'll have different tax

professionals take different positions

both can be equally good they can cite

their reasons we have one particular in

the US we kind of have a war between

kind of two two different two sides of

our tax uh professionals there where you

know one or two guys think this applies

and the other ones all think they're an

idiot uh they're both professionals uh

and so somebody could say hey well you

know I don't think that a salary at a

certain level is going to be excessive

the general provision which is worth

keeping in mind is if you've got a

company and you're making big money uh

you know again a couple million dollars

a year what business that makes a couple

million dollars a year would pay their

CEO a couple million doll a year that's

no longer a business that's a personal

piggy bank and I think that's just in G

forget the tax part of it which I think

is going to be

problematic uh that's just a general

thing that's bad for a business um you

know that could come up in a litigation

scenario right um it's one thing perhaps

to take dividends from a company but a

dividend comes post tax right so you pay

your corporate tax and then you take the

money out as a dividend and so you're

still going to pay uh the tax rate in

that case and so if you're just taking

out an excessive salary like hey like

somebody could argue I think this is

maybe more of an uphill argument in some

jurisdictions from lawyers I've talked

to buty like this guy doesn't run a

company he just has a slush fund so I

think generally the idea of just take

out a salary is not uh the best idea and

so if you went to Dubai again because

you liked it that's fine stay there pay

the 9% does it get higher maybe a little

bit that's fine I'll talk to you about

some Alternatives in a second again

understand understand that there are

certain types of income that are not

taxfree there like royalties uh like

dividends but if you are not living in

the UAE first of all I think it's harder

to run your company they're they're not

companies that are set up to be run

remotely a lot of people who are in

Dubai it's almost like in like the US

like wait a second there's other

countries out there you know like uh

when I asked when I sold my house in the

US and I said I wanted the money sent to

Singapore the person I never heard of

Singapore I think a lot of people in the

UAE they're fascinated by the fact that

people choose to live other places than

Dubai just oh like just come in and sign

your papers it's like I'm out in Dubai

like but why it's just not good to run

remotely uh and I just think that the

the the general philosophy it's not tax

advice it's not all-encompassing it's

not for everybody but it's kind of a

general rule for myself I'd much rather

have a level of personal taxation that

serves My Lifestyle than have corporate

taxation I'd rather the corporation be

tax neutral and then I choose based on

where I spend my time to pay tax to

justify a lifestyle rather than the

reverse I think there's better places uh

to go starting with I mean you can move

your company out of the UAE in a number

of taxfree jurisdictions actually our

tax team just went through and did the

most all-encompassing research we've

ever had on all the different

jurisdictions out there and we found out

that even some of the uh less well

regarded jurisdictions we found some

case studies of people that they might

apply for because you're seeing places

like the SE shells for example and other

offshore jurisdictions increasing the

amount of reporting requirements and so

you know there are use cases for BVI and

bise companies for certain kinds of

businesses where those reporting

requirements are still relatively uh

minimal so that's what Nomad capitalist

does is help people figure out where to

actually incorporate your business if

the answer is I want to lower my taxes

the second thought shouldn't be Dubai

just because these guys all advertise on

Instagram and tell you how easy it is I

I had a company in the UAE and it's one

of the least easy companies I've ever

had to manage I'm not saying it was the

worst thing I've ever done I'm not

saying that the UA is a bad place I

think it's a bit overhyped and overrated

and now it's coming at the expense of 9%

if you make you know 100 Grand a year

you're you're exempt if you make 200

Grand a year you know pay a little bit

of tax nothing wrong with that but if

you're making millions is it worth it

now let's start with some other options

non- dumb programs Ireland Malta Cyprus

the UK if you can find a way to live

there and I think Malta and Cypress are

among the easier ones Ireland's flexible

enough you run your company on offshore

very flexible way those companies are so

it's not like some of the other European

countries where there's a big Blacklist

Portugal have on of those up until when

they whack to their uh tax program you

can put your company anywhere you want

pay zero the money you bring to the

country is taxed the money you keep out

of the country is not taxed and so again

if you're in that multi-million dollar

range and you're like me and you I don't

I like to live on a small percentage of

my income uh then that's only a small

percentage of your income is taxed at

very high rates but overall works out to

a relatively low rate um Ireland easier

to get citizenship Malta and Cyprus I

think harder particularly Malta to get

citizenship but at least if you live in

one of these European countries you can

get a tax rate that's lower than 9%

because you make 5 million you spend

500,000 right so you know maybe you pay

a couple $1,000 in tax in the five

million your rate is four

5% it's half the UAE rate and as little

as five years you could have one of the

best passports in the

world uh by the way people talk about

Ireland the weather's not as bad in a

place like Dublin or somewhere on the

East Coast as it is what you

proverbially think of the west coast

it's not raining every day in Ireland

obviously Malta and Cyprus are are nice

so the UAE you're not going to get

citizenship unless you're Kevin o in

Ireland and to a lesser extent Cypress

can probably pay about half the tax rate

based on how you live you don't have to

live there full-time the same way you

might not live in Dubai full-time half

the tax rate and you get a top tier

citizenship uh Spain is the Beckham tax

it's a bit more complicated for a lot of

entrepreneurs that's possible if you

want to live in a place like Spain

that's a longer process to get

citizenship but if you are from a Latin

American country or the Philippines or

you're an American who was born in

Puerto Rico you could get citizenship in

as little as two years and it might be

worth the structuring in Spain to get a

great passport with that uh and

potentially for some kind of businesses

again you could be in that same bucket

you know paying a handful of percent

lower the Dubai's 9% and getting

citizenship if you're just a anyone else

it's going to be a much longer route to

citizenship Italy and other countries

with Su programs again if you're paying

€100,000 a year flat Switzerland

probably not attracting the same Cent

clientele as Dubai although perhaps uh I

don't know if you like the idea of

living in Dubai if you want to live in

lern or Geneva you know if you can pay a

lump sum in Italy you might well live in

Milan uh you could live in Lake KOMO

there's I mean Milan's not my personal

favorite but it has some of the things

you might like about Dubai passport in

10 years so that's slower than one of

the non-dom countries but you're paying

pay a lump sum €100,000 and if you're

spending uh more than a couple hundred

th000 to live every year if you have the

the Ferraris if you have the uh the the

live-in Chef if you have the great

lifestyle that attracted you to the UAE

uh you can do that more affordably I

mean let's say you make 5 million and

you pay €100,000 e you have a 2% tax

rate and you're working towards

citizenship and uh I mean most passports

these days you can go and spend up to 90

days as a tourist in the UAE Heck if you

have a UAE structure you might keep it

and repurpose it as some kind of holding

company uh for Investments I mean

there's any number of things that you

could do I'm not saying to cut the UAE

out of your life but what I'm saying is

in Europe for example you can pay half

the price you'd pay if you're working

towards citizenship if you want to live

nomadically you can probably get your

taxes down to practically zero uh

there's many other countries in Central

America Eastern Europe Asia uh South

America uh you could pay 01 2% and again

and some of them be working towards some

very good passports uh if you're the

kind of person person that wants to live

in the UAE uh for the global feel and

the low taxes and all that you

absolutely want a second passport I can

get you one in the Caribbean or or in

Malta or any number of other places for

as little as $100,000 and as little as a

few months but maybe that's not needed

maybe you just go and live somewhere for

three five seven years and get a get a

good passport because you're living

there and paying 2% tax which to them

they're happy to take your 2% it's

better than 9% for you so this is what

we do with Nomad culus and this is the

mindset that I go through if I'm talking

to someone nothing against the UAE but

if you went there as the very wealthy

gentleman that I told you about in the

beginning uh you know his goal was let

me just keep my corporate tax at zero

that's a great incentive because when

you're making a lot of money 9% it's

still is a it's a lot if you're paying

Millions a year in tax at 9% are you

getting millions of dollars in Services

you're not getting citizenship so uh you

know if you went there for that that

very low or non-existent rate of tax the

games changed for most businesses and so

you don't have to say well you know 9%

is not that much that's one of the

things people said well you know just

pay your 9% if you like it pay the 9%

but if that's not what you would

attracted to there or if you went there

just for the zero but you would have

rather lived in Italy well you know what

that near billionaire could pay less

than 1% in Italy every year why would he

not move to the place that actually he

likes a little bit more for for 90% less

tax and that's the thought process

nothing wrong with paying % if you get

value in your life but I think a lot of

people just followed the herd to the UAE

and now they turn the screws on you if

you want our help in either getting out

of the UAE or if you're looking for

where to structure your company and you

want a more holistic approach than just

an Instagram ad saying set up in the UAE

isn't it so amazing look at this girl

holding a piece of paper uh you can go

to Nomad

caps.com apply you're going to pay more

uh than you would pay somebody's set a

free zone company but you're going to

save more and we're probably going to

find some things that you haven't

thought about the unknown unknowns for

example like the guy that I've talked

about who didn't realize he has multi

six figures in royalty income that he's

going to get the most punitive taxes on

living the UAE we would have saved him

that and that would have more than

covered his investment uh with us let

lot everything else would have done for

him so Nomad comp.com apply please don't

take this as being against the UAE I'm

taking it as being uh deliberate in what

you do not to chase a location but to

chase an

outcome