WAIT To Buy NEW Tesla Model 3 and Y | It's Coming Back

Ryan Shaw
2 Feb 202415:36

Summary

TLDRThe transcript covers the latest Tesla news. Key points include Tesla hitting a major California sales milestone with 1 in 8 cars sold being a Tesla; considerations around when to buy a Tesla given potential new models and tax credit eligibility; Tesla's $500M investment into their AI Dojo supercomputer system which Elon calls a 'long shot'; warnings from Elon about Chinese automakers like BYD poised to 'demolish most other car companies'; and updates on the upcoming Rivian R2 SUV and Acura ZDX pricing and specs as luxury EV competition heats up.

Takeaways

  • 😲 Tesla captured 21.4% of all new car sales in California in 2023, with the Model 3 and Y as bestsellers in their classes
  • 😎 With increasing EV options, Tesla's market share dropped from 71% to 60.5% in California, showing the rise of competition
  • ⏳ It may be worth waiting for Tesla's next battery and model refreshes before buying, due to potential tax credit changes
  • 🚀 Tesla plans to build a new LFP battery factory with CATL machines in Nevada, likely to help Model 3 qualify for tax credits
  • 😕 Elon Musk called Tesla's Dojo supercomputer a 'long shot', though they just announced a $500M investment into it
  • 😨 Elon Musk expects Chinese automakers like BYD to 'demolish most other car companies' globally without trade barriers
  • 👍 BYD's cheapest EV in China costs just $11,400 currently, showing the extreme competition Tesla faces on affordability
  • 🤔 Rivian may reveal its cheaper R2 electric SUV soon, expected to start around $40-50k and compete with the Model Y
  • 🔋 Acura revealed its first EV the ZDX will start at $64,500 when it arrives later in 2023, featuring GM's Ultium platform
  • 🚘 Porsche unveiled the electric Macan SUV with up to 630hp and 382mi range, competing directly with Tesla's Model X

Q & A

  • What milestone did Tesla recently hit for sales in California?

    -Tesla captured 21.4% of all new car sales in California in 2023. Additionally, 1 out of every 8 cars sold in the state was a Tesla.

  • How much market share did Tesla lose in the California EV market over the past year?

    -While Tesla's sales grew by 24.6% year-over-year, their share of the California EV market dropped from 71% to 60.5% due to greater availability of competing EVs.

  • Why might someone want to wait before buying the next Tesla Model Y?

    -Tesla may soon upgrade the Model Y to match the new Model 3's features. Also, waiting could allow Tesla to qualify the Model 3 for tax credits again, making the Model Y effectively cheaper.

  • What is Tesla building at their Gigafactory in Nevada?

    -Tesla is building a small LFP battery cell factory using CATL equipment. This could help them scale up 4680 production and potentially make LFP cells for vehicles like the Model 3.

  • What did Elon Musk say about the chances of success for Tesla's Dojo supercomputer project?

    -Elon said he would think of Dojo as a 'long shot' that's not a high probability given the scale of investment required to be competitive in AI.

  • Why does Tesla see Chinese automakers as big competitors globally?

    -Elon said Chinese automakers will likely 'demolish most other car companies' globally if trade barriers are not established due to their rapid growth and very affordable EVs.

  • When might Rivian reveal details about their upcoming R2 SUV?

    -Rivian submitted a request to use public space in Laguna Beach for an R2 launch event in March, suggesting reveal details may come very soon.

  • How much will the base trim of Acura's first EV, the ZDX, cost?

    -The base trim of the ZDX will start at $54,500 when it arrives later in 2023.

  • What is the expected EPA range for Porsche's new electric Macan SUV?

    -Porsche has not released EPA range estimates yet, but the Macan has a WLTP estimated range up to 381 miles for the base trim.

  • How fast can Porsche's new electric Macan SUV charge?

    -The Macan supports charging at up to 270kW, which can charge 10-80% in 21 minutes thanks to its 800V electrical architecture.

Outlines

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📈 Tesla Hits Huge California Sales Milestone and Could Predict Future

Tesla has hit a milestone with 1 in 8 cars sold in California being a Tesla in 2023. Electric vehicles made up 21.4% of new car sales. The Model 3 and Model Y lead their classes in sales. As California continues to transition to EVs, we may see similar statistics emerge across the country, especially when Tesla releases their lower cost $25,000 car.

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🤔 Deciding When to Buy a Tesla With Model 3 and Model Y Differences

The Model 3 will have major updates soon, raising questions around when the Model Y may see similar changes. However tax credits currently apply to the Model Y but not the Model 3 due to battery sourcing rules, creating odd pricing where the Model Y is cheaper. Tesla is expanding Gigafactory Nevada to improve Model 3 tax credit eligibility.

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😲 Chinese Automakers Like BYD Posing Major Threats

Elon Musk sees Chinese automakers, especially BYD, as very competitive globally based on their growth, low prices and expansion plans. He expects them to significantly challenge other automakers worldwide unless trade barriers are erected. Tesla fell behind BYD for top global EV sales spot in 2022.

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🔋 Tesla Investing Further into Dojo Supercomputer and AI

Despite delays and setbacks, Tesla plans a $500 million investment into a new Dojo supercomputer cluster to bolster their AI and self-driving tech. However, Elon noted it's a long shot with low probability of success, so they're diversifying chips for AI, using Nvidia and AMD hardware as well.

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Keywords

💡Tesla

Tesla is an American electric vehicle and clean energy company founded by Elon Musk. The video discusses several updates related to Tesla's business, including sales milestones, future products, competition with other EV makers like BYD, and investments in AI/technology.

💡California car sales

The video reports that 1 in 8 new cars sold in California in 2023 were Teslas. This shows the rapid growth and popularity of Tesla's vehicles in a major market. It also signals the overall rise of EVs, now making up over 20% of California sales.

💡model 3

The Tesla Model 3 is Tesla's most affordable and bestselling electric sedan. The video states it is the top-selling passenger car in California, outselling mainstream sedans like the Toyota Camry.

💡Tax credits

The US federal tax credit provides incentives for purchasing EVs, but Tesla models have phased out from eligibility. However, the video suggests Tesla may restore credits by producing LFP batteries, allowing a $7,500 discount.

💡LFP batteries

LFP stands for lithium iron phosphate batteries. The video says Tesla will open a small LFP production facility with CATL equipment to make batteries for products like Megapacks. This may also help the Model 3 qualify again for tax credits if Tesla uses LFP cells.

💡Dojo supercomputer

Dojo is Tesla's proprietary AI supercomputer, designed to train neural networks for autonomous driving. The video covers Tesla's new $500M investment in Dojo hardware, even as Elon Musk downplays expectations by calling it a "long shot".

💡BYD

BYD is a major Chinese EV maker that surpassed Tesla in global sales last year. The video discusses how BYD and other Chinese automakers pose rising competitive threats with very affordable model offerings.

💡Rivian R2

Rivian is an American EV startup. The video mentions they will reveal their lower-cost R2 electric SUV soon, expected to start around $50,000. This could compete with Tesla's Model Y in the crucial mid-size SUV segment.

💡Acura ZDX

The Acura ZDX is a new all-electric SUV from Honda's luxury brand. The video overviews its pricing, performance specs and charging capabilities as Acura enters the high-end EV market to compete with Tesla.

💡Porsche Macan EV

Porsche has unveiled its new all-electric Macan SUV. The video highlights its premium features and capabilities including range, acceleration, charging speed, and price positioning against Tesla models like the Model X.

Highlights

Tesla hit a major sales milestone in California, capturing 21.4% of new car sales in the state

The Model 3 and Model Y are the top 2 bestselling vehicles in their classes in California

Tesla may build a new LFP battery factory with CATL machines in Nevada to help the Model 3 qualify for tax credits again

Tesla announced a $500 million investment to build a new supercomputer cluster for their AI training system Dojo in New York

Elon Musk said he considers Dojo a "long shot" given the low probability of success, so they're hedging bets by investing in Nvidia and AMD chips too

BYD and other Chinese automakers are Tesla's most competitive opponents right now with their rapid growth and affordable EVs

Tesla may need to introduce a $25,000 EV soon to compete with BYD's $11,400 Seagull EV

Rivian may reveal details about their upcoming affordable R2 SUV at an event in March

The Acura ZDX electric SUV will start at $54,500 when deliveries begin later this year

Porsche revealed their electric Macan SUV with up to 630 horsepower and 367 miles of range

The base Macan EV will start at $88,900 while the high performance Turbo trim starts at $153,500

The Macan EV will charge 10-80% in just 21 minutes and tow up to 4,000 pounds

Tesla captured 60.5% of California's BEV market in 2022, down from 71% due to more competition

Tesla needs to scale up qualifying battery production in the US to help vehicles qualify for tax credits

Tesla is recognizing the massive investment needed to stay competitive in AI, spending billions across hardware and programs

Transcripts

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today we're getting into the latest

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Tesla news including why you may want to

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wait for Tesla's next battery Tesla's

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warnings about byd Tesla dominating

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popular markets and more so let's get

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into

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it first up today Tesla has hit a huge

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sales milestone in California that could

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be a pretty big sign of the future to

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come in 2023 one of every eight cars

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sold in California was a Tesla and

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electric cars made up 21.4% of all new

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car sales the model 3 and Y are the two

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bestselling vehicles in their respective

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classes as well the model 3 sold

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8278 units a 61% lead over the previous

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California passenger car bestseller the

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Toyota Camry the model Y is the

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bestselling vehicle overall having

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shipped

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132,50 7% market share for the year year

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followed by Tesla with 133% and Honda

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with

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9.7% interestingly both of those other

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automakers have been very slow to

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introduce EV options to the US market

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still while Tesla's sales have grown by

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24.6% in the last year the increasing

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availability of competing electric

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vehicles has had an impact on them

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Tesla's overall share of the Bev Market

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dropped from 71% to

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60.5% as a result of Greater

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availability of Tesla Alternatives this

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is reflected in the growth of EV sales

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coming from franchised car dealerships

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Tesla offers a direct to Consumer sales

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model that few other automakers have

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adopted still a single automaker

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especially one that has only been

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selling cars for 15 years managing to

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capture this much of a huge market like

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California is a gigantic Milestone as

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the state and Country at large continue

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down the path of electrification we'll

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probably start to see similar statistics

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coming out of other places outside of

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California I'm curious to see how these

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numbers will change once Tesla releases

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their upcoming affordable e as well with

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a hopeful $225,000 price tag and

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eligibility for a full $7,500 tax credit

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that could put that car nearly $10,000

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cheaper than the old California

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bestseller the Toyota Camry with prices

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like these purchasing an EV starts

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looking less like just an interesting

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option for many consumers and more like

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a product that is impossible to ignore

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next up today the biggest question when

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it comes to Tesla is when to buy one

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they don't refresh their cars on any

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sort of normal basis like other

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companies do in fact they change stuff

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throughout the year whenever it makes

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sense for them to do so on the assembly

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line overall Al though the big changes

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only come every few years the entirely

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new model 3 is about to ship in the US

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so for many this raises the question as

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to when the new model y will come out

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the model y was designed off of the

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model 3 so at some point Tesla is going

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to upgrade that car to match the current

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model 3 with rear display better cabin

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isolation nice materials and much more

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the other side of this though is tax

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credits for many the tax credit is a big

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factor when buying an EV and this year

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for eligible cars it is available at the

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point of sale meaning you can get up to7

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$500 off the price of a model Y at

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checkout if you qualify for the credit

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all model y trims currently qualify but

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if you decide that that car is a bit too

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large for you the model 3 does not

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qualify for anything this creates a very

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odd situation where someone who

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qualifies could buy a rear wheel drive

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model y for

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$36,900 or a rear wheeel drive model 3

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for

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$38,988 190 for a longrange model y or4

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$5,990 for a longrange model 3 the

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reason the model 3 doesn't qualify here

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and this situation is as odd as it is

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has to do with battery sourcing rules

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got stricter this year and Tesla's model

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3 batteries no longer meet the

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requirements of the bill among many

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other EVS essentially the only way to

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make it qualify is to Source Batteries

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More locally but this process takes time

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we've seen Tesla shift things around in

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the past to help cars qualify but as

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they continue scaling they're going to

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need to scale up qualifying batteries

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recently we've heard about Tesla diving

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in on the true expansion of their main

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battery Factory Giga Nevada about a year

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ago they announced $3.6 billion in new

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investment at that factory scaling up

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4680 production as well as semi-

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production in January of this year we

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saw Tesla moving forward with initial

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construction or Earth moving to start

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this expansion that's exciting on its

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own but now a new report says that Tesla

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is going to build a new lfp battery cell

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Factory with catl machines in Nevada

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quote the automaker plans to buy

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Machinery from catl as the battery maker

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is known and install it in the city of

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Sparks said the people who asked not to

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be identified Tesla will have full

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control of the facility and cover 100%

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of the costs and catl Personnel will be

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uninvolved other than helping to set up

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the equipment they said reportedly this

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will be a small facility and it will be

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used initially to make lfp cells for

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Tesla Mega packs but various reports

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give different details on that right

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there that could rule out this helping

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with the model 3 qualifying for tax

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credits but Tesla is very well known to

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shift things around as they make sense

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they say they don't want tax credits but

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of course if their car is qualified they

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will make them SE and allow customers to

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take that tax credit the same happens

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with batteries if 4680 cells take longer

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to scale than expected of course they

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will change plans and we've seen them

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shift things over the years I think that

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here it's quite likely this process goes

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very well and they find that scaling up

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lfp battery cell production with catl

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equipment is extremely efficient in

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Nevada whatever Tesla can scale

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effectively they will continue doing

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China currently makes the most lfp

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batteries between byd and catl and they

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each Supply Tesla even with 4680 cells

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expanding at gig Texas lfp isn't

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expected anytime soon even though this

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chemistry is great and more affordable

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Elon Musk has even talked about Tesla

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focusing on these cells in the future in

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a very short amount of time this could

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allow Tesla to expand Beyond Mega packs

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and make lfp cells for the model 3 to

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once again help it qualify as long as

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they can Source the minerals and

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materials to qualify then this could

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solve that issue for them allowing the

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model 3 to be purchased for as low as

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many customers further into the future

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as well they may find this useful for

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their next gen vehicle but time will

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tell what approach they will be taking

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there the cybertruck is the true 4680

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experiment and they will see what is

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most effective they always want to be at

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the Forefront of new technology but the

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key is that they want it to be scalable

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in the real world soon hopefully this is

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the initial step to make the model 3

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qualify for the tax credit once again if

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you're not in a rush at all and the tax

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credit is very important to you then

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this could be worth the wait but battery

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scaling does take a lot of time I'd

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imagine it could more likely that Tesla

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figures out another way to make the

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model 3 qualify even before they make us

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lfp battery cells but time will tell

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next up today Tesla has just announced a

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huge new investment into their Dojo

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supercomputer system they will be

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building a new $500 million

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supercomputer cluster at their Factory

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in Buffalo New York Dojo is the

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groundbreaking supercomputer that Tesla

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completely designed from scratch to help

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train their AI products Dojo has had

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some pretty big setbacks since it was

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first announced the project has faced a

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number of delays but Tesla was able to

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open their first Dojo cluster last year

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in recent months some of the program's

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leadership has been let go from the

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project raising concerns about how well

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it's actually going behind the scenes

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during their latest earnings call Elon

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Musk made a comment that certainly puts

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the whole project into a bit of

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perspective he said I would think of

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Dojo as a long shot it's a long shot

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worth taking because the payoff is

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potentially very high but it's not

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something that is a high probability

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given how much this project was

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anticipated to significantly boost

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Tesla's AI output that is definitely a

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bit disappointing to hear

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however it is definitely reasonable that

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when working on a technology as

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groundbreaking and Cutting Edge as their

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AI products you may want to temper

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people's expectations a bit especially

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when you're Elon with a history of doing

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the opposite instead Tesla is working on

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approaching their supercomputer goals

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from multiple angles while they boasted

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that their Dojo chips would be able to

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outperform other competitors they're

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still investing heavily in chips from

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those companies Tesla is spending

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heavily on Nvidia AI processors to

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continue building their traditional

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supercomputer clusters and will also be

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adding AMD chips to to their Hardware

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Elon added that quote the table Stakes

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for being competitive in AI are at least

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several billion dollars per year at this

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point while Tesla is spending a lot on

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their Dojo project in order to remain at

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the Forefront of the AI industry they

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recognize the need to spend in more than

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just one area I hope that Dojo is able

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to deliver on Tesla's goals because it

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would be such a major help to their AI

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powered projects like FSD and Optimus

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regardless between their investments in

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third party and proprietary Tech Tesla

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is working very hard to keep their lead

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in AI technology next up today Chinese

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automakers like byd are making huge

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splashes across the globe and their

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success has left Tesla a little scared

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or at least realistic for the future

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last year in Q4 was the first time that

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Tesla fell from the leading spot in

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global EV sales with byd now in first

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place the Chinese automaker has made

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huge gains in both China and Europe

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expecting to open a new Factory in

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Hungary very soon along with other new

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automakers byd is massively expanding

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their worldwide Presence by offering

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cheap electric cars that other companies

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are struggling to keep up with Tesla and

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other automakers have been cutting

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prices in Europe and China to stay

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competitive in those markets Elon Musk

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told analysts that the automakers out of

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China are the most competitive car

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companies in the world and that he

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expects them to do very well across the

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world as a result of their huge and

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sudden growth the EU has considered

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raising tariffs on Chinese EVS to

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protect local production on the topic

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Elon said quote frankly I think if there

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are not trade barriers established they

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will pretty much demolish most other car

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companies in the world I would imagine

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in a sense he still sees Tesla is a

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Survivor here as they've been competing

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directly in China and he sees their next

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car as revolutionary in multiple aspects

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but for other automakers it could be a

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very big deal Tesla is at the top of EV

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manufacturing and to be so blunt about

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the risks posed by byd and others is

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very telling about their Rising

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structure in the market byd has been

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having great success with their lineup

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of affordable EVS that so far other

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automakers have been unable to compete

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with Tesla is currently working on their

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next gen affordable EV but we don't have

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official word on when that car will be

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coming as it stands right now byd's

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cheapest vehicle the seagull is

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available out of China for about $11,400

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a price that is almost unfathomable to

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beat even for the specs of delivers for

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2023 Tesla originally projected a 50%

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growth rate that they fell short of by

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12% a 38% increase in car deliveries is

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still very impressive but the growth in

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other companies are definitely eating

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into Tesla's potential sales if Chinese

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automakers continue their current level

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of growth and don't face increased trade

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barriers they really could take the EV

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World by storm they already faced some

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pretty substantial tariffs in the US

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that have prevented them from getting a

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foothold here but if they were to change

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it would immediately create some nearly

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unbeatable opponents for us automakers

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since byid is currently working on their

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European Factory it could be difficult

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for the EU to implement any major trade

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restrictions on that company if Tesla

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wants to remain competitive price Cuts

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likely won't be enough long term they're

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going to need to introduce this $225,000

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EV to be a true affordable alternative

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to the cheaper Chinese cars and

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ultimately I'm excited to see that

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happen competition is great for

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consumers and while we are slowly

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beginning to see automakers in the US

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take on Tesla the real competition is

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coming from China with Tesla being a

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global company that means we see the

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effects here as well part of me wonders

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if the new model 3 would have even seen

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a refresh in the US if it weren't

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necessary for the Chinese market where

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they designed it and introduced it first

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we'll see how this all develops but Elon

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tends to have a decent hold on what the

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future looks like in this space last up

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today some updates from other automakers

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rivan has been teasing their long-

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awaited R2 SUV for some time now and we

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may finally get word on when that

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vehicle is being introduced rivan is a

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luxury EV maker that currently has two

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vehicles on the market the r1t pickup

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truck and r1s 3 row SUV the company

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makes great vehicles that are among the

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best Tesla competitors out there but so

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far they have struggled to reach

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profitability following the Tesla

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business model they proved their

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viability with their more expensive

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models and are now branching out into

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more affordable options that's where the

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R2 comes in it is rivian's next gen

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electric SUV that is currently

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speculated to cost around $4 $3,000 to

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start that will put it in line to

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compete directly with the model y

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especially if they meet the requirements

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for the full $7,500 tax credit which

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they say this car is being designed to

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meet so far we've only seen hints of

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this truck but now some leaked documents

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suggest that it will be coming very soon

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rivan submitted a request to the lagona

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beach city council to use some public

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space for the R2 launch event in March

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on top of that in a recent rivan patent

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application it looks like we got our

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first sketch of that car it looks like

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the exact shape we expect a smaller

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version of the r1s and the lights have a

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similar rivan feel but are noticeably

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smaller if this car can deliver rivan's

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great EV experience but in a more

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affordable form factor that could be a

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huge game changer for the industry for

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rivan hopefully an inexpensive Mass

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Market C is what is able to push them

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into profitability I can't wait to find

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out more details about the R2 as we

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learn more and see what happens at this

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event in March Acura the luxury

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subdivision of Honda has just revealed

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the prices of their upcoming z4x the

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Brand's first fully electric vehicle in

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the US coming later this spring the bass

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trim of the zd4 4X will start at $64,500

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this electric SUV is powered by GM's

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ultium platform which is also the basis

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for this car's luxury competitor the

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Cadillac lric when they first announced

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this vehicle Acura estimated it would

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start around $660,000 so while its

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starting price is a bit higher it does

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offer plenty of luxury features this car

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will feature a unique Google operating

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system a bong and olon audio system as

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well as Apple carplay and Android auto

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coming standard the Dual Motor

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Performance upgrade will start at

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$73,500

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and will output 500 horsepower have

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adjustable air suspension performance-

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tuned dampers and multiple driving modes

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for maximum performance the vehicle will

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also feature three distinct charging

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packages depending on your needs they

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will offer different packages of home

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and mobile chargers as well as

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installation credits and Evo charge

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credits it features 190 KW DC fast

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charging that can add 81 m in 10 minutes

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via CCS although the car will also come

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with a complimentary nacs adapter it is

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currently expected to have a range up to

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325 Mi EP

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Acura and its parent company Honda have

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been very slow to the EV game so I'm

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interested to see how well this car

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performs when it arrives later this year

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over at Porsche they have finally fully

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unveiled their all electric maon SUV and

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it's pretty impressive this base trim

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will have a max range up to 381 mil of

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wltp range and can output over 400

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horsepower the turbo trim will get up to

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630 horsepower and can go 0 to 60 in 3.3

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seconds in exchange for that performance

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the range will reduce slightly down to

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367 Mi but again keep in mind that's

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wltp range the base trim will Top out at

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136 mph while the turbo will reach 161

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mph this new SUV will be the first

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vehicle to debut on the 800 volt PPE

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platform that they co-developed with

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Audi it will support fast charging up to

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27 KW which will charge its 100 KW

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battery from 10 to 80% in 21 minutes the

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interior is designed for driver comfort

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with three available screens including

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an instrument cluster and an additional

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heads up display in addition to its

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style and performance it also features a

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roomy cargo area and a towing capacity

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up to 4,000 lb all of those features

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round this vehicle out to be a very

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capable and versatile sport SUV the base

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trim will start at

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$8,800 while the turbo will bump it up

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to

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$15,300 essentially at this pricing it's

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competing with the model X this car

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offers the same quality traditionally

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offered by the Porsche brand and fans

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will surely love the continued quality

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offered by a legacy automaker that's all

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the latest Tesla news for today so in

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the meantime if you want to see the

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latest for Tesla hacks and a trotor

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model 3 you can check out that video

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linked up here or in the description

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below thanks so much for watching and

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I'll see you on the next one