5 Stocks to Buy to Invest in AI With Less Risk I August 5, 2024

Morningstar, Inc.
5 Aug 202423:44

Summary

TLDRThe Morning Filter discusses key investment insights, focusing on AI's impact on the market. Susan Jinsky reports on economic forecasts, earnings from companies like Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, and the potential of AI in enterprise software. She highlights Microsoft's leadership in AI and its fair value estimate increase, while Intel faces challenges. Strategists Brian Kalillo and Travis Miller explore AI's role in tech and utilities, emphasizing Nvidia's dominance and the growth opportunities for data center-related utilities.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“‰ The U.S. market is experiencing a sell-off following a weak job creation report and the highest unemployment rate since late 2021, indicating potential recession fears.
  • πŸ’Š Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, despite recent stock pullbacks, are considered overvalued but have long-term growth potential in weight loss and diabetes treatments.
  • πŸŽ₯ Disney and Paramount are set to report earnings with both stocks appearing undervalued; Disney's streaming service subscriber growth and Paramount's Sky deal are points of interest.
  • πŸ“ˆ Several of Dave's stock picks, including Realty Income, International Flavors & Fragrances, Fortinet, and Baxter, are undervalued and have upcoming earnings reports.
  • πŸ” Morningstar raised its Fair Value Estimates for Microsoft, Meta Platforms, Amazon, and Apple following their earnings reports, reflecting positive outlooks and potential undervaluation.
  • πŸ“‰ Intel's Fair Value Estimate was significantly reduced by Morningstar due to a disappointing forecast, layoffs, and dividend pause, leading to a substantial stock sell-off.
  • 🍎 Berkshire Hathaway's sale of half its stake in Apple may impact the stock; Morningstar forecasts double-digit iPhone revenue growth in 2025 driven by generative AI features.
  • 🧠 AI, particularly generative AI, is creating new opportunities and efficiencies; however, the market is currently favoring companies providing the infrastructure, like Nvidia.
  • πŸ’‘ AI's impact on enterprise software is expected to be through infused AI in existing products rather than standalone AI tools, with potential for upselling and operational efficiencies.
  • πŸ’Ό The utilities sector can benefit from the growth of AI through increased demand for electricity by data centers, with specific utilities in Wisconsin, Indiana, and the Gulf Coast poised for significant growth.
  • 🏭 Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) is highlighted as an undervalued stock with a strong market position in chip manufacturing, important for AI development.

Q & A

  • What is the main theme of the 'Morning Filter' episode presented by Susan Jinkins?

    -The main theme of the episode is to cover what investors should have on their radars this week, including new Morning Star research and a few stock ideas to research further, particularly focusing on the impact of AI on investing.

  • Why is this week considered quiet in terms of economic reports?

    -This week is considered quiet in terms of economic reports because of the lack of significant economic data releases following the release of the jobs report last week, which showed weak job creation and the highest unemployment rate since late 2021.

  • What was the market reaction to the jobs report released last week?

    -The market reaction to the jobs report was a sell-off, triggered by fears of a recession in the US due to weak job creation and the highest unemployment rate since late 2021.

  • Which companies are at the forefront of the weight loss drug story and how are they valued heading into earnings?

    -Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk are at the forefront of the weight loss drug story. Despite recent pullbacks, they are still considered about 50% overvalued heading into earnings.

  • What is the stance of Morning Star's health care team on the growth potential of Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk?

    -Morning Star's health care team believes that both Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk have a long runway for growth with their stable of weight loss and diabetes treatments, but they also think the market is overenthusiastic about these stocks and sees significant price risk.

  • What is the expected impact of 'Inside Out' success at the box office on Disney's results according to Matt Dolan?

    -Matt Dolan, Morning Star's senior analyst, is curious to see how much 'Inside Out' success at the box office contributes to Disney's results, particularly in terms of subscriber adds to Disney's streaming service.

  • What is the significance of the fair value estimate changes for Microsoft, Meta Platforms, Amazon, and Apple after their earnings reports?

    -The fair value estimates for these companies were raised by Morning Star, indicating that the companies performed well and are considered undervalued or increasingly attractive, which could be a positive signal for investors.

  • Why did Morning Star reduce its fair value estimate for Intel by 30%?

    -Morning Star reduced its fair value estimate for Intel by 30% due to a disappointing forecast, announced layoffs, and the pausing of its dividend, which led to a selloff of the stock.

  • What is the potential impact of Berkshire Hathaway selling about half of its stake in Apple on the stock?

    -The news of Berkshire Hathaway selling about half of its stake in Apple could potentially impact the stock by affecting investor confidence and market perception, although the actual impact would depend on various market factors.

  • What are the key areas where AI is currently being utilized and how does it benefit businesses?

    -AI is currently being utilized in areas such as computer coding, helping programmers, and customer service, where it allows representatives to access information more quickly to better serve customers. This deployment of AI is making businesses more efficient.

  • How does the growth of AI and data centers present an opportunity for utilities companies?

    -The growth of AI and data centers presents a significant opportunity for utilities companies as data centers are huge electricity consumers. This increased demand for electricity can lead to earnings growth and more investment in infrastructure for utilities.

  • Which utilities are expected to benefit the most from the growth in data center electricity consumption?

    -WEC Energy Group, NYS source, and Entergy are expected to benefit the most from the growth in data center electricity consumption due to their locations being significant centers for data center development and the potential for increased demand growth.

  • How does the investment in AI by companies like Microsoft and Nvidia potentially impact their stock valuation?

    -The investment in AI by companies like Microsoft and Nvidia can potentially impact their stock valuation positively if it leads to increased revenue, improved efficiency, and a strengthened competitive position in the market.

  • What is the potential long-term impact of AI on various industries and why is it significant for investors to consider?

    -The potential long-term impact of AI on various industries includes advancements in enterprise software, drug discovery, genetics, autonomous driving, and robotics. It is significant for investors to consider because these developments could lead to new revenue streams, increased efficiency, and transformative changes in industry operations.

Outlines

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πŸ“ˆ Market Insights and Stock Performance Overview

This paragraph provides an overview of the current investment landscape, focusing on economic reports and market reactions to recent job creation data and unemployment rates. It discusses the potential for a market sell-off and highlights specific companies reporting earnings, such as Eli Lily and Novo Nordisk, which are considered overvalued despite their growth potential. The paragraph also mentions undervalued stocks like Disney and Paramount heading into earnings and concludes with a note on Morning Star's fair value estimates for major companies including Microsoft, Meta Platforms, Amazon, Apple, and Intel.

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🧠 The Potential of AI and its Impact on Investing

The second paragraph delves into the world of artificial intelligence (AI), discussing its recent surge in popularity and potential for growth. It includes interviews with Morning Star strategists Brian Kalillo and Travis Miller, who explore the current state and future of AI, its applications, and how it can benefit various industries. The conversation covers the infrastructure needed for AI, the role of companies like Nvidia, and the potential for AI in enterprise software and utilities. The paragraph also touches on the investment opportunities presented by AI and the importance of understanding its integration into existing products and services.

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πŸ’‘ AI's Role in Enhancing Business Efficiency and Growth

This section continues the discussion on AI, focusing on its role in improving business efficiency and driving revenue. It examines how AI is currently being utilized in areas such as computer coding and customer service to streamline operations and enhance service delivery. The paragraph also explores the potential for AI to generate additional revenue through upsell opportunities and to maintain competitive advantage by integrating AI into existing products, as exemplified by Microsoft's AI tools.

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πŸš€ Long-Term Growth Opportunities in AI and Utilities

The fourth paragraph shifts the focus to the long-term growth opportunities in AI, particularly in the utility sector. It discusses the potential for utilities to benefit from the increased power demand of data centers, which are significant consumers of electricity. The paragraph highlights the importance of understanding regional demand growth and the strategic positioning of certain utilities to capitalize on this trend. It also identifies specific utilities that are poised to benefit from the expansion of data centers and the subsequent increase in power demand.

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🏭 Investing in AI-Related Stocks and Utility Companies

The final paragraph wraps up the discussion by identifying specific stock picks that are well-positioned to benefit from the growth of AI and data centers. It emphasizes the importance of selecting undervalued stocks with reliable cash flows and strong competitive positions. The paragraph presents a list of recommended investments, including Microsoft, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, WEC Energy Group, NYS source, and Entergy, all of which are expected to see significant growth due to their involvement in AI and data center development. The summary also encourages viewers to visit Morning Star for more in-depth analysis on these stocks.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Morning Filter

The 'Morning Filter' is a show that discusses topics relevant to investors, including market trends, economic reports, and company earnings. It serves as a filter for what should be on investors' radars. In the script, it is the program that Susan Jinsky is hosting, covering various financial topics and stock ideas.

πŸ’‘Economic Reports

Economic reports are official data releases that provide insights into the health of the economy, such as job creation and unemployment rates. In the script, the mention of a quiet week for economic reports implies a week with fewer significant economic data releases, which might influence the stock market less intensely.

πŸ’‘Recession

A recession is a period of economic decline, typically characterized by a fall in GDP, high unemployment, and a drop in stock values. The script discusses fears of a recession in the US following a weak job creation report, which led to a market sell-off.

πŸ’‘Earnings

Earnings refer to the profits that a company makes and is a key indicator of a company's financial health. In the script, the discussion of companies reporting earnings, such as Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, is significant as it impacts investor decisions and stock valuations.

πŸ’‘Weight Loss Drug

A weight loss drug is a pharmaceutical product designed to help reduce body weight. The script mentions companies at the forefront of the weight loss drug story, indicating that their financial performance and stock valuations are tied to their success in this market segment.

πŸ’‘Fair Value Estimate

The 'Fair Value Estimate' is an analyst's projection of what a company's stock is truly worth. In the script, Morning Star's adjustments to the fair value estimates for companies like Microsoft and Amazon after their earnings reports indicate changes in the perceived value of these stocks.

πŸ’‘Generative AI

Generative AI refers to artificial intelligence systems that can create new content, such as text, images, or music. The script discusses the excitement around generative AI and its potential applications, highlighting its difference from traditional AI that is more about pattern recognition.

πŸ’‘Nvidia

Nvidia is a company known for its graphics processing units (GPUs), which are crucial for training AI models. The script mentions Nvidia as a leader in providing the infrastructure for AI, with its GPUs being essential for the development of large language models.

πŸ’‘Data Centers

Data centers are facilities that house and manage large amounts of data. The script discusses the growth of data centers as a significant opportunity for utilities companies, as these centers require substantial electricity to operate.

πŸ’‘Economic Moat

An 'economic moat' refers to a company's sustainable competitive advantage that protects its market position from competitors. In the script, Morning Star assigns 'narrow economic moat' ratings to certain companies, indicating they have a competitive edge that is expected to last for a decade or more.

πŸ’‘Undervalued

A stock is considered 'undervalued' when its market price is lower than its estimated fair value, suggesting it may be a good investment. The script mentions several stocks that Morning Star considers undervalued, implying they have potential for price appreciation.

Highlights

The Morning Filter covers important topics for investors, including new Morning Star research and stock ideas.

Economic reports and earnings from companies like Eli Lily and Novo Nordisk are on investors' radar this week.

Despite recent stock pullbacks, Morning Star sees significant price risk for companies at the forefront of weight loss drug stories.

Disney and Paramount are expected to report earnings, with both stocks appearing undervalued.

Several of Dave's stock picks, including Realty Income International, report earnings this week, all undervalued.

Morning Star raised its Fair Value Estimate on Microsoft by more than 12% after positive earnings.

Meta Platforms' Fair Value Estimate was also raised by Morning Star due to solid ad demand and strong cash flow.

Amazon's Fair Value Estimate increased by $3, with the stock now considered undervalued by Morning Star.

Apple's Fair Value Estimate was raised nearly 9%, with forecasts predicting double-digit iPhone revenue growth by 2025.

Berkshire Hathaway sold half of its stake in Apple, which may impact the stock this week.

Morning Star significantly reduced Intel's Fair Value Estimate following a disappointing forecast and stock sell-off.

AI's potential for rapid growth has led to a surge in stocks tied to AI since the launch of Chat GPT.

Generative AI, a subset of AI, creates new content and represents the recent excitement in the field.

AI is currently being infused into existing products rather than being sold as a standalone tool.

Nvidia's GPUs are the market leaders for training AI models, with AMD and Intel as competitors.

Cloud companies may build in-house chips, potentially reducing reliance on Nvidia and impacting its market position.

Utilities are positioned to benefit from the growth of AI, particularly in data center electricity consumption.

Certain utilities, like WEC Energy Group, NYS Source, and Entergy, are expected to see significant earnings growth due to data center demand.

Microsoft is identified as an early leader in AI with investments in Open AI and strong financial health.

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing (TSMC) maintains a significant market share and is expected to have a wide economic moat.

Stock picks based on Morning Star's analysis include Microsoft, TSMC, WEC Energy Group, NYS Source, and Entergy.

Transcripts

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hello and welcome to the morning filter

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I'm Susan jinsky with Morning Star every

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Monday on the morning filter we cover

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what investors should have on their

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Radars this week some new Morning Star

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research and a few stock ideas to

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research further now my colleague Dave

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Sakara is on a well-deserved break this

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week so today's episode is going to be a

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little different I'll cover some of the

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ground that Dave normally does though

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I'm certainly no substitute then we'll

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share a couple of interviews that Dave

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conducted before he left about investing

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in AI today and then finally I'll close

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out the show with some stock fixed based

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on Dave's interviews so let's get to it

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what should investors have on their

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Radars this week well it'll be a quiet

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week in terms of economic reports thank

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goodness last week's jobs report showed

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weak job creation and the highest

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unemployment rate since late 2021 now

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that triggered fears of a recession in

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the US which triggered a market sell-off

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on Friday and by the looks of the

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Futures Market before open here on

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Monday it looks like the sell-off is

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likely to continue at least today

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now on the earnings front we have a

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couple of companies reporting this week

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that have been at the Forefront of the

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weight loss drug story and those are Eli

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Lily and Novo Nordisk now even though

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both stocks pulled back recently they

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still look about 50% overvalued heading

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in earnings now while morning Stars

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healthc care team thinks both companies

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have a long runway for growth with their

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stable of weight loss and diabetes

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treatments they think the market is

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overenthusiastic about these stocks and

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they see significant price risk here

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we'll also be hearing from both Disney

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and Paramount this week both stocks look

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undervalued heading into earnings mster

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senior analyst Matt Dolan covers both

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companies with Disney Matt's not

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expecting a big quarter of subscriber

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ads to the Disney's streaming service

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but he is curious to see what inside out

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to success at the box office contributes

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to results and he's also interested to

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see how much Disney's experiences

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business has slowed and then over at

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Paramount he'll of course be listening

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for more details about the sky Dan deal

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and finally several of Dave's stock

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picks from prior shows report this week

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including realy income International

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flavors and fragrances fortnet and

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Baxter all of which remain undervalued

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heading in earnings we'll be listening

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to what management from each of these

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companies has to say during their

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earnings calls now moving on to some new

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research from Morning Star I'd like to

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run through several notable changes to

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the fair value estimates on the stocks

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of some big companies that reported

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earnings last week let's start with

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Microsoft Morning Star raised its Fair

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Value Estimate on Microsoft by more than

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12% after earnings to

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$490 per share Morning Star senior

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analyst Dan romanof noted that earnings

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came in as expected and he seemed most

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impressed with guidance calling for

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Azure Revenue to accelerate in the back

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half of the year as the company's

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investment in Data Center capacity comes

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online Microsoft stock has a fourstar

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rating today which means Morning Star

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thinks it's

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undervalued now Morning Star also raised

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its Fair Value Estimate a meta platforms

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by more than 12% up from $400 per share

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to $450 per share now Morning Star

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director Mike Hodel observed that solid

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ad demand allowed meta to invest

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aggressively while generating strong

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cash flow Mike was nevertheless happy

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that meta maintained and didn't increase

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its expense forecast for the year meta

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stock is trading in three star range

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today and looks fairly valued according

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to Morning Star Morning Star also raised

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its Fair Value Estimate on Amazon by $3

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to

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$195 after earnings morning Stars Dan

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Romanov thought second quarter results

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were solid the change in Fair Value was

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influenced by continued enhancements to

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profitability in the near term Dan says

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the stock is increasingly attractive

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after pulling back during the past few

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weeks in fact Amazon stock is trading at

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four star levels today suggesting that

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the stock is

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undervalued Morning Star also raised its

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Fair Value Estimate on Apple by nearly

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9% after earnings to

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$185 Morning Star analyst will Kerwin

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said in his note that the fair value

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boost was due to an increase in morning

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star's medium-term iPhone revenue

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forecast now Morning Star is forecasting

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double- digigit iPhone Revenue growth in

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fiscal 2025 as users upgrade their

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iPhones to take advantage of Apple's

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generative AI features not even at after

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that fair value increase Apple stock

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looks about 20% overvalued and then on a

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somewhat related note news came out this

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weekend that Burkshire hathway had sold

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about half of its huge stake in Apple

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stock last quarter it'll be interesting

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to see if that reveal has any impact on

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the stock this week and then lastly

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Morning Star slashed its Fair Value

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Estimate on Intel by 30% to $21 after

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the chipmaker provided a disappointing

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forecast announced layoffs and paused

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its dividend the stock sold off by more

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than 25% and Morning Star strategist

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Brian kelos called the selloff Justified

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and noted that he's concerned about

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Intel's competitive positioning after

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that earnings report viewers who' like

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to read more details about what morning

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Stars analysts thought about the

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earnings of these companies and of

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course others can click on the link

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beneath this video to ask access morning

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Stars earnings coverage now moving on a

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couple of weeks ago Dave sat down with

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two of morning Stars strategists to

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discuss opportunities in AI his first

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conversation was with Brian celo who

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covers Nvidia among other tech companies

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his second conversation was with Travis

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Miller who's a strategist with morning

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Stars utilities team let's have a

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listen artificial intelligence burst

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into the Limelight in November 2022 when

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open AI launched chat GPT once investors

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saw what AI could do and its potential

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for rapid growth stocks tied to AI have

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surged to new highs so the question is

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what exactly is AI how is it utilized

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and who benefits the most and most

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importantly where is it going to help me

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answer these questions is Brian kalilo

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our Equity strategist on the technology

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team at Morning Star Research Services

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to talk about how AI is currently being

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used and where we see it going forward

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well Brian thank you for joining us here

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thanks for having me so of course you

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know large language models have really

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garnered you know all the Limelight in

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the media today but could you explain

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like what is exactly Ai and what are

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some of the use cases we see it being

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used for today sure so artificial

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intelligence has been around quite a

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while but the excitement what we've seen

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over the past 18 months is really around

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generative AI which is a subset of the

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broader AI category even if you take AI

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as a whole which again has been around

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for decades machine learning was a just

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a piece of overall Ai and the Machine

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learning is really used to sort of

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detect patterns in data companies will

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feed it data that the humans basically

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just can't detect those patterns on

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their own so machine learning uh would

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Aid in that now within that is a subset

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uh called Deep learning and within that

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is a subset called generative Ai and

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that's where these large language models

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come from uh the key Concept in

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generative AI which is different from

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all the others is that these generative

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AI tools these large language models

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create new and original content and so

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that's something we haven't seen before

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okay so for an investor perspective of

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course you know the question really

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becomes you know how exactly are these

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companies going to utilize you know AI

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to either one you know generate

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additional revenue on top of what

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they're already generating you know and

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or you know how is it going to make

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companies you know more efficient in

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order to try and improve their operating

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margins sure so the start of AI right

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now the winners are the companies

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building out the infrastructure so

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Nvidia for sure and then the cloud

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companies renting out those Nvidia gpus

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and those data centers to their

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customers so if we put that aside for a

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minute we could talk about enterprise

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software it's more to your question of

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where's the revenue going to come from

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how are they going to save so on the

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revenue side or you maybe taking a step

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back in software we think AI will be

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infused in existing products that it

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won't necessarily be just an AI tool but

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it will be AI baked into the products

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we're already using so from a revenue

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side for a best case scenario for

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software a company will be able to

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explicitly upsell AI by selling a

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different module or new product

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Microsoft co-pilot might be the exact

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the best example of this trying to add

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on $30 per month per user to to get our

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AI tools so that's probably the best

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case from a revenue perspective uh the

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medium uh scenario in that would be a

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software company is able to raise prices

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on the product as whole on the whole or

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maybe they stay flat maybe they don't

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really explicitly charge for AI but it

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allows them to retain business maybe

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they reduce customer turn um maybe they

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hold on to those customers longer you

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know the worst case scenario for

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software companies are those that don't

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develop an AI or subpar and they just

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get steamrolled uh by competition later

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on so that's what we think will happen

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on the revenue side on the efficiency

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side we're seeing efficiencies um in

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many different places uh computer coding

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is one where AI is helping um computer

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programmers there uh customer service is

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another area just even there's a lot of

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concern maybe longterm about job loss

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and things like that but even in the

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interim if you take your average

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customer service representative they're

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able to get information on their

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fingertips more quickly to better serve

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their customers being able to let's say

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look through manuals or know where to go

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in a software program things like that

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so there are advantages to AI being

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deployed in those two areas already

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making businesses more efficient okay

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now when I think about investing in AI

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you know there's the old adage you know

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during the gold rush you know back in

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the day it wasn't necessarily the miners

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that got rich but the people that did

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get rich were the ones that were selling

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you know the PS and the shovels so when

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I think of the PS and the shovels today

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of course you know Nvidia with its gpus

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you know by far the market leader you

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know selling you know the chips that are

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being used to train the AI models today

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so maybe if you could just explain to us

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you know what exactly is it about you

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know nvidia's gpus that make them the

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leader today but I'm also curious you

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know who else is out there you know who

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else is making you know products in

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order to try and do similar types of

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things or are there other you know chips

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that are being made out there for

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specific AI use cases yeah gladly and

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you know I've used that analogy as well

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that Nvidia you know was basically the

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only pick maker in town and they make

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the best shovels and they're expanding

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into blue jeans and water bottles and

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everything that that a minor can use

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that I think they're doing a really good

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job of elbowing out into other um AI

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applications uh this all started Nvidia

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I think we've always thought of them as

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a best of breed GPU vendor to begin with

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probably for the past 20 years but more

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so on the gaming side uh with their

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technology but sort of the the big bang

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moment in the industry was in 2012 when

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uh a host of researchers reprogrammed

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one of those Invidia gpus and discovered

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that you could get far better results

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with a large language model running

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Nvidia so the first part um I don't want

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to call it luck but certainly the GPU

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architecture that Nvidia has was well

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suited for these large large language

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models where Nvidia was really bright

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was investing in that um trend for the

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past 10 to 15 years on the software side

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creating the the software and compilers

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and tools and all of the things to help

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the AI industry build these large

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language models so now they're all built

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using Cuda software that is proprietary

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that only runs on Nvidia gpus and that's

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why they have such a dominant position

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today uh in terms of competition AMD has

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GPU experience as well both on the

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gaming side they're coming out with

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their a or they have their AI chips out

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to Market not nearly at the size and

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scale of Nvidia and the software is

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going to be a bit of a challenge but

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certainly they want to be the J second

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general purpose GPU vendor uh Intel also

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has uh AI accelerator chips uh that are

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at play there uh we think the biggest

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threat to Nvidia over the next few years

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will probably be in-house chips built by

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the cloud companies themselves so

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Microsoft Google Amazon for example if

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they can take workloads and run it on

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their own chips they can reduce their

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Reliance on Nvidia I think they're still

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going to buy plenty of Nvidia chips but

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to the extent they can uh reduce their

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Reliance or even just put pricing

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pressure back on Nvidia it'll be a

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positive for those companies as well uh

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and then outside of that you have

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companies like broadcom and Marvel that

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are helping the cloud companies build

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those in-house chips uh there are other

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companies well broadcom and Marvel are

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just two of many that are supplying sort

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of peripheral chips into like the

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networking architecture and then finally

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all of these companies there's an entire

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supply chain around them so whether it's

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Taiwan semi as the world's leading

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Foundry building many of these chips or

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whether it's arm with the uh

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architecture uh and basically the

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blueprint for Designing many of these

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chips there's a whole ecosystem of semis

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that are supporting Nvidia but also

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their competitors too great thank you so

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thinking about what's coming up you know

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and looking forward you know if you

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could gaze into your crystal ball you

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know today I kind of want end on an

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open-ended question here for you you

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know but just thinking about you know

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maybe over the next you know two or

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three years you know how do you really

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see you know this developing what are

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maybe some of the additional use cases

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that investors you know should be

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thinking about today yeah gladly I mean

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nobody has a great crystal ball on this

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I don't even think the cloud companies

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do and maybe Nvidia doesn't either to be

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perfectly honest so you the big question

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we get from Nvidia or from investors

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about envidia and others is how long can

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the spending keep going uh we would

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continue to look at the spending plans

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of the hyperscalers the Googles Amazon

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Microsoft's metas of the world to

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determine um you know how much more

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Nvidia we be selling how much more of an

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AI buildout is happening because they

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would only be doing so if their tens of

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thousands of customers are are are

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developing AI models or not so that's

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what we would look at from a uh revenue

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and sort of trend uh perspective uh in

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terms of where it's going you know we

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talked a little bit about Enterprise

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software and how AI will be infused

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there uh I do think there are plenty of

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startups coming but I do think it's too

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early to be expecting significant

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revenue from there we've seen some

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reports and opinions that you know where

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are all the tools there's been

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development for two years I I still

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think it's a bit too soon you know the

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the Ubers and Instagrams of the world

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let's say those that might be a five to

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10 year Trend until we start seeing

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these AI applications one or two years

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in might still be a little too early or

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at least that's my opinion on it um I

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would also say nation states and

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government spending is an interesting

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sort of trend as well for security and

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defense purposes and things like that

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and that's spending might happen

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completely independent of Revenue um you

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know we see that this is the future in

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Ai and then finally there are these big

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sort of moonshot projects that are going

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on where it will take a big piece of R&D

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budget and maybe they work out or maybe

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they don't but but I think the spending

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will be there so things like drug

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Discovery genetics um autonomous driving

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robotics those are are problems at the

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technology industry and Healthcare and a

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lot of other Industries haven't cracked

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yet and now with all this computing

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power they might be able to to move the

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ball forward on that and so I think that

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spending is going to happen uh again

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maybe regardless of Revenue I'm sure

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they all want to cure cancer or have

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self-driving cars or you know make

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billions of dollars off of that but I

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think the spending will happen either

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way got it well thank you very much I

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really appreciate you spending your time

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and providing your expertise to us today

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happy to

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help many types of companies stand to

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benefit from the long-term secular

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growth in artificial intelligence and

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this means that there are opportunities

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for investors interested in this theme

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beyond the obvious a stock plays like

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Nvidia Microsoft and alphabet with me

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today is Travis Miller our Equity

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strategist on the utilities team at

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Morning Star Research Services to

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discuss how utilities stand to benefit

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from the growth of AI so first Travis

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you know thank you for being here with

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us today but of course you know the

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first question has to be you know why is

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there now this recent focus by the

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marketplace on utilities as a potential

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play on artificial intelligence data

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centers are huge electricity consumers

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so when you utilities primary business

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is supplying either Distributing or

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transmitting or generating electricity

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data centers and the growth there is

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going to be a huge business opportunity

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for utilities that means earnings growth

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that means more investment in

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infrastructure so we think utilities are

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a good way to play this data center

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growth give you to give you one

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interesting example here Texas right now

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it's the largest area for Bitcoin mining

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Bitcoin mining and the data center is

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involved with that alone

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equal the same amount of electricity on

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a hot summer day in the entire city of

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Austin wow that's incredible some grid

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operators in Texas are projecting that

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generative AI data centers if they grow

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in Texas could be 20 times that amount

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of electricity so this is a huge growth

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opportunity for utilities wow that's uh

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really interesting thank you so really

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how do you forecast you know the

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additional power requirement for you

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know artificial intelligence and how do

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you really incorporate that into your

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own Financial models in order to

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determine you know what the proper

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valuation of utility should be going

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forward sure so we're forecasting about

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double demand growth in data center

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electricity consumption throughout the

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year on an annualized basis now that's

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going to be very Regional so only

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certain utilities are going to benefit

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from that the utilities we think are

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going to benefit the most we incorporate

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that in our future projections that

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flows into our earnings growth

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projections and ultimately in our

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valuation so utilities we think that are

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going to benefit from data center demand

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growth do get a premium valuation

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relative to the rest of the group all

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right well then let's name some names

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you know which ones should investors you

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know keep on their short list to watch

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in the marketplace today for you know

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any potential sell-offs or ones you know

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that might be undervalued you know going

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forward yeah we like three in particular

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so w Energy Group it's a Wisconsin

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utility NYS source and its subsidiary in

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Indiana and also enty which is located

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in the Gulf Coast all three of those are

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huge centers for demand growth from data

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centers right now what we've seen in

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Wisconsin is data centers that Microsoft

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has planned could increase electricity

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demand in Wisconsin by 10% the entire

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State relative to one Microsoft data

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center development in Northwest Indiana

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the utility their nsource has projected

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that one or two data centers could

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double the amount of demand in Northwest

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Indiana an entg or earlier this year got

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a commitment from Amazon web services

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for A10 billion facility we think that

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could lead to a 10% or more increase in

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entergy's capital investment growth plan

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so all three of those were projecting

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higher than average earnings growth

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because of the data center demand and we

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think that could continue for a decade

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or more giving them a higher valuation

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relative to the group wow that's some

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really interesting growth especially for

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a sector that you always have been

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considering a very slow bit study you

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know earnings grower so thank you very

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much for your time really appreciate

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your Insight sure thank

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you it's time to move on to the pics

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portion of this week's program this

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week's pics are some of the names that

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Dave talked about in his interviews with

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Brian and Travis now we're focusing on

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stocks that score well on three marks

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first they're undervalued according to

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Morning Star which means they carry Less

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Price risk today second the companies

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have somewhat reliable cash flows as

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measured by their medium or low Morning

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Star uncertainty scores and then finally

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they've carved out economic Moes which

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means Morning Star expects these

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companies to remain competitive for a

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decade or longer so the first pick this

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week is Microsoft which has clearly

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emerged as an early leader in AI with

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its investment in open AI the company is

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in excellent Financial Health has pretty

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reliable cash flows and Morning Star

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thinks Microsoft will continue to

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strengthen its already wide economic

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mode Morning Star is Morning Star

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Microsoft is an all-around attractive

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core holding and it looks about 177%

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undervalued relative to our Fair Value

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Estimate our second stock pick this week

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is Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing

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now tsmc is the world's largest

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dedicated chip Foundry and maintains

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more than a 60% market share now Morning

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Star thinks the company has carved out a

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wide economic mope second quarter

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earnings and third quarter forecasts

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were in line with our F year estimates

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now morning Stars analyst says that

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negative recent news like US

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presidential candidate Donald Trump's

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remarks on Taiwan and reports on

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possible new export restrictions should

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really have limited direct impact on

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tsmc's operations as most of its direct

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customers are from the US or Taiwan the

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stock looks 30% undervalue today now the

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last three picks this week are some of

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the second derivative plays that Dave

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talked about with Travis the first is we

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Energy Group now we think this utility

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should trade at a premium to other

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utilities due to its above average

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earnings growth and the constructive

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regulatory environments in which it

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operates

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also uh wec announced oh Microsoft

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announced additional land purchases in

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southeastern Wisconsin indicating

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further data center development which

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will Ben benefit we we assigned the

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utility a narrow economic moat rating

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the stock offers a nice yield above 3

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and a half% and looks about 6%

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undervalued NYS source is the second

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second derivative AI pick like wec

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nisource will also benefit from

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Microsoft's data center plans but this

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data center will be in leaport Indiana

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which lies within nipsco's territory NYS

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Source also earns a narrow economic moat

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rating the stock yields more than 3% and

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is 6% undervalued relative to morning

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Stars Fair Value Estimate and our final

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stock pick this week is Entergy Morning

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Star assigns Entergy a narrow economic

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moat rating we're projecting 7% annual

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earnings growth at least through 2029 on

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the back of accelerating electricity

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demand from data center development in

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Energy's Gulf Coast service area the

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stock is just 4% undervalued and yields

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more than 3 and a

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half% viewers interested in researching

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any of the stocks that we discuss on the

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morning filter can visit morningstar.com

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for more analysis I hope you'll join me

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