Systems Thinking: How Billionaires Think

Sam Ovens
14 Aug 201839:41

Summary

TLDRThis video script delves into the concept of systems thinking, a cognitive approach that has driven the success of many entrepreneurs and professionals. It illustrates how viewing life as interconnected systems rather than isolated events can lead to profound insights and better decision-making. The speaker uses examples from nature, business, and everyday life to explain the principles of systems thinking, emphasizing the importance of understanding inputs, processes, outputs, feedback, and environment. By adopting this mindset, individuals can improve their business strategies and personal lives, fostering growth and innovation.

Takeaways

  • 🧠 Systems Thinking Fascination: The speaker has a deep interest in systems thinking and its role in the success of individuals, which has become an obsession for them.
  • 🌐 Interconnectedness: Successful people view everything as interconnected systems rather than linear chains of cause and effect, which is a hallmark of systems thinking.
  • 🌿 Nature as a Model: Nature exemplifies the ultimate system, with its complex and intelligent interconnections that are often beyond human comprehension.
  • πŸ”₯ Forest Fires Insight: The unintended consequences of preventing small forest fires can lead to larger disasters, illustrating the importance of understanding systems' dynamics.
  • 🀝 Social Systems: Human society operates on various interconnected systems, such as legal and social norms, which individuals must understand to function effectively.
  • πŸ’‘ Business as a System: Business operates as a system with components like accounting and online platforms that interconnect and must be managed as a whole for success.
  • πŸ”‘ Component Thinkers vs. Systems Thinkers: Component thinkers focus on isolated parts, while systems thinkers see the whole and understand how parts interact and affect each other.
  • πŸ’° The Cost of Short-Sightedness: Failing to adopt a systems thinking approach can lead to decisions that negatively impact the overall business, such as neglecting customer support.
  • βš™οΈ System Components: Every system consists of inputs, processes, outputs, and is influenced by the environment, with feedback loops playing a critical role in system behavior.
  • 🌞 Influence of Environment: External factors like weather can significantly affect internal systems, such as a person's mood and productivity.
  • πŸ› οΈ Action Steps for Systems Thinking: To become a systems thinker, one should analyze situations by identifying inputs, processes, outputs, feedback, and environmental influences.

Q & A

  • What is systems thinking and why is it important for success?

    -Systems thinking is an approach to problem-solving that views everything as interconnected systems rather than isolated parts. It is important for success because it allows individuals to understand the bigger picture, how components interact, and the impact of those interactions on the whole system, leading to more effective decision-making and innovation.

  • How does the speaker define success in relation to systems thinking?

    -The speaker defines success in relation to systems thinking as the ability to view everything as a system, to think through things and visualize interconnected systems in one's mind, rather than a linear chain of cause and effect.

  • What are some examples of systems mentioned in the script?

    -Examples of systems mentioned in the script include the solar system, ecosystems, social systems, legal systems, language systems, numbering systems, and various bodily systems within a human body such as the immune, cardiovascular, respiratory, and nervous systems.

  • How does the speaker describe the relationship between nature and systems thinking?

    -The speaker describes nature as the ultimate system, highlighting its interconnectedness and the way it constantly balances itself. Nature's intelligence is seen as surpassing human understanding, with systems like the water cycle and the effects of forest fires demonstrating the complexity and interdependence of natural processes.

  • What is the concept of emergence in systems thinking?

    -Emergence in systems thinking refers to the complex behavior that arises from simple rules. It is the idea that by setting a few basic rules, complex and often unexpected patterns and behaviors can emerge without the need for centralized control or detailed micromanagement.

  • How does the speaker differentiate between a component thinker and a systems thinker?

    -A component thinker focuses on individual parts without considering the whole system and how the parts interconnect, often missing the bigger picture. In contrast, a systems thinker views everything as interconnected and understands that changes in one part can affect the entire system, leading to a more holistic approach to problem-solving.

  • What is the role of feedback in systems thinking?

    -Feedback in systems thinking is a mechanism where the output of a system directly affects its input. It is crucial for understanding how changes in one part of the system can lead to changes in another part, creating a dynamic and often exponential effect on the overall system behavior.

  • How does the speaker relate systems thinking to business success?

    -The speaker relates systems thinking to business success by emphasizing the importance of viewing a business as a system with inputs, processes, and outputs. Successful entrepreneurs and business leaders understand how all aspects of their business are interconnected and how optimizing the system as a whole can lead to better outcomes.

  • What is the significance of the environment in systems thinking?

    -In systems thinking, the environment represents external factors that influence the system. It is important to consider how changes in the environment can affect the inputs, processes, and outputs of a system, as everything is interconnected and not operating in isolation.

  • Can you provide an example of how systems thinking can impact business decisions, as mentioned in the script?

    -An example from the script is the case of an accountant who might view expenses on Facebook ads as a waste without understanding that these expenses can lead to profits. A systems thinker would see the interconnectedness of expenses and profits, recognizing that strategic spending can generate income for the business.

  • What are some action steps suggested by the speaker for becoming a systems thinker?

    -The speaker suggests analyzing situations by identifying inputs, processes, outputs, and feedback loops. They also recommend considering the environment's influence and understanding the relationships between components. Additionally, the speaker advises against siloing and instead promotes emergence, interconnectedness, and synthesis over analysis.

Outlines

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πŸ€” The Fascination with Systems Thinking

The speaker introduces the concept of systems thinking, which is a way of understanding how successful individuals approach problem-solving and decision-making. They express a long-standing curiosity about what sets successful people apart, particularly in their cognitive processes. The speaker shares their journey of studying systems thinking obsessively to understand the interconnected patterns of thought that successful people use, which differs from the linear thinking of most people. The goal of the video is to explain systems thinking, demonstrate its impact on success in business and life, and guide viewers on how to adopt this mindset.

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🌿 Examples of Systems in Nature and Society

The speaker provides examples of systems from the natural world, such as the solar system and ecosystems, to illustrate the interconnectedness and balance within these systems. They emphasize the complexity and intelligence of nature, which is a system that is constantly self-regulating and adapting. The speaker also extends this concept to societal systems like legal and social norms, highlighting that humans are part of various interconnected systems that dictate behaviors and interactions. The importance of understanding these systems is underscored to navigate effectively within them.

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πŸ’‘ The Power of Systems Thinking in Business

The speaker discusses the application of systems thinking in business, likening a business to a complex system with various interconnected components. They argue that successful entrepreneurs and employees are those who can see the bigger picture and understand how individual parts of a business system affect each other. The speaker contrasts systems thinkers with component thinkers, who focus on isolated parts without considering the overall system, leading to a limited and often ineffective approach to business challenges.

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πŸ”‘ Understanding the Components of Systems

The speaker breaks down the fundamental components of a system: inputs, processes, outputs, and the environment. They explain how these elements interact and influence each other, using the example of a human being as a system where inputs like sleep and food quality directly affect outputs such as happiness and productivity. The speaker also introduces the concept of feedback loops, where outputs can influence future inputs, creating a dynamic and self-regulating system.

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πŸ“ˆ Systems Thinking and Business Scalability

The speaker applies the concept of systems to business scalability, emphasizing the importance of testing systems at a small scale before expanding. They discuss the role of web traffic as an input, automated webinars as a process, and customer acquisition as an output in the context of their business. The speaker also acknowledges external factors such as competition and market conditions that can influence the system's performance, highlighting the need for systems thinkers to adapt and respond to these environmental changes.

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πŸ”„ The Importance of Feedback Loops and Environmental Factors

The speaker delves deeper into the role of feedback loops in systems, using the stock market as an example of how prices can be influenced by the actions of investors, which in turn are influenced by the prices themselves. They stress the importance of considering the environment in which a system operates, as it can significantly impact the system's effectiveness. The speaker also discusses the potential for positive feedback loops to generate exponential growth, both in crowds and in business.

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πŸ›  Becoming a Systems Thinker

The speaker provides actionable steps for viewers to adopt a systems thinking approach. They suggest analyzing situations by identifying inputs, processes, outputs, feedback, and environmental factors. The speaker encourages viewers to see everything as interconnected systems and to consider the broader implications of each component within the system. They offer a PDF for download to help viewers learn and apply systems thinking to their own lives and businesses.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Systems Thinking

Systems thinking is a core concept in the video, defined as an approach to problem-solving that views everything as interconnected parts of a whole. It is related to the theme as it explains how successful individuals, regardless of their field, perceive and manage complex situations by understanding the relationships and interactions within a system. The script illustrates this with examples such as the solar system, ecosystems, and business operations, emphasizing the importance of seeing the 'big picture' rather than isolated components.

πŸ’‘Interconnectedness

Interconnectedness refers to the concept that all elements within a system are linked and influence each other. In the video, it is a fundamental aspect of systems thinking, highlighting how successful people recognize the relationships between different parts of a system. The script uses the example of nature's ecosystem, where trees, water, and the sun are all interconnected, to demonstrate how systems thinking can be applied to understand complex dynamics.

πŸ’‘Feedback Loop

A feedback loop is a process within a system where the output of the system becomes an input that influences the system's behavior. The video explains how feedback loops can lead to exponential growth or decline, as seen in crowd formation or stock market fluctuations. The concept is integral to understanding how systems can self-regulate and how changes in one part of a system can have cascading effects on the whole.

πŸ’‘Emergence

Emergence is the idea that complex patterns and behaviors can arise from simple rules within a system. The video script discusses this in the context of business strategies and niche markets, suggesting that by allowing simple rules to guide actions, rather than controlling every detail, more innovative and effective outcomes can emerge. It contrasts with the approach of 'siloing,' where rigid control can stifle creativity and adaptability.

πŸ’‘Component Thinker

A component thinker, as described in the video, is someone who focuses on individual parts of a system without considering the whole. This mindset is contrasted with systems thinking, where the emphasis is on understanding how parts interact and contribute to the overall system. The script uses the example of an accountant who might view expenses in isolation, missing the broader picture of how those expenses can generate profit.

πŸ’‘Environmental Influence

The environment is portrayed in the video as an external factor that can significantly impact a system. It discusses how systems do not operate in isolation and are affected by external conditions, such as weather affecting mood and productivity. The video uses this concept to emphasize the importance of considering the broader context when analyzing or improving a system.

πŸ’‘Siloing

Siloing is the practice of isolating different areas of activity or thought, which can limit the potential for creative and innovative outcomes. In the video, it is presented as the opposite of emergence, where rigid categorization and control prevent the natural evolution and adaptation of ideas. The script warns against the dangers of siloing in business strategies and encourages fostering diversity and adaptability.

πŸ’‘Inputs and Outputs

In the context of systems thinking, inputs and outputs are fundamental components of a system. Inputs are what goes into the system, while outputs are what the system produces. The video script explains that understanding the relationship between inputs and outputs is crucial for effective systems thinking, as it helps to identify what needs to be changed to achieve desired outcomes. Examples given include the impact of sleep and diet on personal performance and the role of web traffic as an input in a business system.

πŸ’‘Processes

Processes are the mechanisms or activities within a system that transform inputs into outputs. The video emphasizes the importance of understanding these processes in systems thinking, as they are the actions or steps that connect inputs and outputs. The script uses the example of an automated webinar as a process in a business system that takes potential customers (input) and through the presentation, aims to convert them into actual customers (output).

πŸ’‘Systems Balance

Systems balance refers to the natural tendency of systems to seek equilibrium or stability. The video script discusses how systems, like nature, are constantly adjusting to maintain balance, using the example of forest fires and the water cycle to illustrate this concept. It suggests that understanding systems balance is important for systems thinkers to predict and manage the effects of changes within a system.

Highlights

Systems thinking is a key to success for many entrepreneurs and high-performing individuals.

Successful people view everything as interconnected systems rather than a linear chain of cause and effect.

Examples of systems are the solar system, ecosystems, and societal structures like legal and social norms.

Nature is the ultimate system, constantly balancing and self-regulating through interconnected elements.

The concept of systems thinking can be applied to business, where every component affects the whole.

Systems thinkers understand the importance of the whole system's health over individual components.

Component thinkers often miss the bigger picture and fail to see how their actions affect the overall system.

Systems thinking in business involves considering the entire process from inputs to outputs, including the environment's influence.

Feedback loops are a critical aspect of systems, where outputs can affect inputs and create exponential growth or decline.

Understanding systems thinking can help in personal development, as inputs like sleep, food, and information directly impact outputs like happiness and knowledge.

Systems thinking can reveal the interconnectedness of various aspects of life and business, such as customer support's impact on sales.

The importance of considering the environment and external factors that can influence a system's performance.

How systems thinking can lead to the emergence of unique and successful business strategies that are not confined to silos.

The difference between analyzing parts in isolation versus synthesizing the whole system for a more accurate understanding.

Practical steps to adopt systems thinking, including identifying inputs, processes, outputs, feedback, and environmental factors.

The transformative effect of systems thinking on personal and professional life, encouraging a holistic approach to problem-solving.

Transcripts

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everyone seemed Urban's here and today I

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want to tell you about systems thinking

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and how most successful people think now

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Systems thinking is something that you

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know has fascinated me for a long time

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and I've always been looking at you know

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some people who are really successful

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like entrepreneurs but even employees

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and people who you know are really good

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at anything and I've been trying to

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think you know what really separates

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them why are they different how come

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they can see things that that other

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people can't and what goes on in their

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brain like how do they think differently

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than normal people and this thing has

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fascinated me for a long time and I've

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really tried to study it and you know

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it's even become a point of obsession

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where I've been trying to figure it out

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and after a long time after years you

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know I figured out that most successful

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people it doesn't matter what field

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they're in their systems thinkers and

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what that means is they view everything

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as a system and how they think through

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things and how they visualize things in

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their mind is interconnected systems not

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linear

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like you know chain of cause and effect

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and I'm gonna explain this to you in

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this video and I'm gonna show you you

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know how as systems thinker thinks I'm

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gonna show you how you can become a

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systems thinker and how this has an

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immediate and profound effect on the

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results that you'll get in your business

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and in your life so first of all like

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what is assistant and what is systems

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thinking well it doesn't matter where

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you look in the world like the world is

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full of systems they're everywhere and

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I'll give you some examples like we have

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the solar system all right that's what

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it's called and it's called a solar

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system because there's all of these

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different planets and they all you know

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rotate around each other and all of them

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affect how like what happens with other

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things it's all interconnected and the

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solar system is basically moving it's

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interactive and it's trying to balance

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all the time all right and then within a

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solar system we have like earth and

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in with an earth we have an ecosystem

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all right that's what nature is and the

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ecosystem is what we all live in

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you know there's trees that produce

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oxygen and to do that they need water

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which comes from rain and clouds and

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also the Sun which you know which

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provides which heats the earth and then

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the the water evaporates rises up forms

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clouds drops down and you know it's a

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fascinating thing to look at because one

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of the best systems in the world well

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actually this is hands-down the best

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system ever is nature you know and if

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you think about it like nature it is

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it's smarter than any one of us on earth

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by a mile like we cannot figure it out

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we still can't predict the weather and

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you know we still can't really predict

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anything but nature is it continues to

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outsmart us all the time and what nature

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is doing is it's it's all interconnected

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right you've got like the Sun and that's

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interconnected by heating water that's

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like in rivers and in the oceans on

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earth and then that's evaporating it's

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coming in and forming clouds and then

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the clouds are moving around with wind

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and they're spreading rain into

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different areas areas which might need

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water and it's the Sun is taking that

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water out of other areas that that have

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a lot of water so you know nature is

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trying to balance itself all the time

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and even some things that you know we

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think we humans think are bad for a

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classic example is like forest fires

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right like it's fascinating a lot of

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humans will most humans always thought

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you know forest fires are bad and so

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what they did is they decided to put an

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initiative in place to try and stop

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forest fires all together and then what

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happened as they thought they were

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successful because they were able to

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stop some forest fires for a long time

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but then what happened is one big gnarly

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forest fire just swept through and just

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annihilated everything and then in

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hindsight they realized that those small

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bush fires that happen all the time

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that's Nature's Way of getting rid of

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the debris that's on the forest floor

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so that it never piles up too high and

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that it burns off and it causes small

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fires and small fires are actually a lot

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better than one big catastrophic fire

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right and so by preventing those fires

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they actually caused a bigger one and

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this is a classic example of you know

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why nature is a lot more intelligent

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than their nice humans and it's the

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ultimate system and you know it goes

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further than that there's you know if

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you if you think into society and

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different humans and they're

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interconnecting you know we've got

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social systems we've got a legal system

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you know that the legal system is

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different laws and how all of those laws

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interconnect social systems you know

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those are different social norms and

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we've got systems for operating you know

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if a human wants to interact in in

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society they it's very hard for them to

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just make everything up and go out there

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and say and do whatever the hell they

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want they won't be able to communicate

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with other people they won't be accepted

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and you know they won't really be able

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to integrate with the social system API

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because they don't know the protocols to

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to call into that thing and communicate

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things and so you know we have to learn

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all of these different systems in order

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to operate within the system and as you

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start going deeper into this thing you

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realize that everything is really a

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system we've got a language system we've

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got a numbering system you know when

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we're educated we learn the number

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system which is just very simple numbers

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and then we learn how to you know we

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learn a language like English or Chinese

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or whatever and the languages are just

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built up of words and the

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interconnections of those words and

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numbers are just made up of numbers and

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the interconnection of those numbers

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creates the system so we learn these

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elementary building blocks that then can

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be used to interconnect and communicate

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and do all of these things and without

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knowing the number system or without

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knowing a language system and without

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knowing the legal system or the social

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system then a human being cannot operate

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in this world the way it is right now so

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you start to get my point and then it

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goes you know even deeper like here's

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all the

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and even all of the systems within your

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body you know you've got your immune

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system your cardiovascular system your

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respiratory system your digestive system

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and then you've got your reproductive

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system and then your muscular system

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your sensory system your nervous system

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right it goes on and on and it there's

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systems within systems and when you

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really start to look you you realize

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that all life really is is all of these

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different systems at all different

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levels and all of them interconnect now

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why am I talking about all of this and

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how does this actually help you in

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business well business is you know a

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system again you know we've got an

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accounting system to try and figure out

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you know if we're making a profit or a

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loss we have you know all sorts of

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online systems

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right there's Google there's Facebook

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there's you know in if you're going to

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use a software like if you're going to

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use a landing page software like

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clickfunnels that's a system you've got

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to learn that system and how what its

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components are and how those components

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interconnect and what I've found is that

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the people who do really well as

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entrepreneurs and really well in life as

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well and our best hires you know the

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people that are just exceptional they're

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all systems thinkers and why that's

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important is these days I see a lot of

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people who are not systems thinkers and

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what's the opposite of a systems thinker

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well it's really like a component

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thinker right and what that means is

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that instead of viewing the whole and

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how the whole has all of these moving

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parts and how all these moving parts

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interconnect they just see a piece and

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they just see this piece frozen in time

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like it's static and you know all they

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know is this piece but they don't know

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how this piece fits into a larger whole

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and changes and affects other things

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within the whole right and in business

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like the piece is never important what

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what is important is the whole in the

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well-being of the whole and the whole is

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the business right so a classic example

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of this you know might be so might be an

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accountant right and this is true this

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is this is like accountants a notorious

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for this

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a lot of accountants they're so

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closed-minded and narrow-minded that all

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they can see and think about is just

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like the P&L and balance sheet that

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that's all they see and they're just

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confined to thinking about things as

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accounting so they might look at our

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expenses for Facebook ads and be like oh

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my god this is this is stupid why are

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you spending this much money on Facebook

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ads like why are you spending millions

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of dollars on it this is a waste this is

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an expense and what that accountant

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can't see is that you know when we spend

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money on ads we actually that's the

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action right which is an expense but

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then the reaction of that action is that

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we make a profit now that's not always

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true you that's that doesn't mean that

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if anyone's Ben's money on ads they're

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gonna make a profit but we do it in a

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way that does that and so you know you

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have to take your time to explain it to

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these people and they still really can't

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get it and I'm like man what the hell is

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wrong with this person like if I put

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$1.00 in drum machine and $3 comes out

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why would I limit my putting of dollars

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into the machine

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all right that's wouldn't accountant

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thinks you should do well that's what a

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bad one things you should do right

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because they can't see the bigger

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picture they can't see how all of these

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things interconnect so they just see

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expenses as bad and they can't see how

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an expense can actually create income

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and their component thinkers you know

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that they can only see their little

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thing and another example of this is

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basically you know a lot of employees

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who were just narrow-minded in their

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little area so you might have someone in

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customer support who you know who was

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who is answering support tickets in a

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particular way and doing things in a

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particular way not to not thinking about

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how that's going to affect the larger

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whole and you know they might think oh

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if I do this then it might come back and

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effect finance or it might come back and

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effect you know our live chat web site

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team or it might affect you know another

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team right they don't think about how

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all of these things interconnect they

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just think things operate in isolation

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and you know a lot of people think like

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this they think that everything operates

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in a vacuum

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and I see this a classic example in

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marketing is people who just focus on

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the landing page conversion range all

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right they look at the landing page and

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they see a conversion rate and they see

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a cost per lead which is a cost per

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email address and let's say that that

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number is 15% opt-in rate and they might

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think oh that's bad

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so then what they do is they start and

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they start making changes to that

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landing page and they get it from 15% to

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30% or 40% and they're like oh that's

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good I improve that conversion rate

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there but that's a component thinkers

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view all right what a systems thinker

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would do is they would look at the whole

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they would look at the health of the

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whole not the part and so instead of

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thinking about a landing page they would

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think about the entire machine and where

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does that machine end what's the

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ultimate measurement and within this

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machine well it's getting a customer and

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cost per acquisition and ROI return on

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investment all right

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and so when a systems thinker makes

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changes to the landing page they're not

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so worried about the landing page

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conversion rate they're worried about

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the change to the cost per acquisition

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in the our way and this is how I do

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things like we know I'm optimizing my

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landing page I've taken it from my 18%

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to 40% and I've actually hurt sales at

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the end and a lot of people don't

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understand that you can do this you know

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you can get an improvement here and

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Kittel everything here where it matters

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so where it doesn't matter you can make

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an improvement where it really matters

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you can hurt it it is more than possible

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and I see this all the time where these

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things actually go opposite ways at

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different stages in the machine and only

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really as systems think it can can do

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this another classic example is a lot of

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entrepreneurs I see who just have really

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shitty like customer support you know

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they they think that customer support is

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is not worth anything to a customer they

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think that you know that part of the

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business they should just farm out to

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you know to some people overseas for

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like you know $500 a month for them to

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just do and figure it out and it's an

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afterthought right because all their

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money they think should be

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into marketing and other things because

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support doesn't influence income that's

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how a that's how a component think it

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would would think but a systems thinker

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would would think hey if a customer bias

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from us and then they have a question

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and if we answer that question in poorly

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or late or you know if it's not done

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professionally and well if it doesn't

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well with a customer then how is that

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customer going to feel probably pretty

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bad and then if we sell something else

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which we're highly likely to do then

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they're less likely to buy something

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else from us in the future so actually

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we're harming ourselves by offering

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shitty support we're actually going to

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make less money by doing that that's

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what a systems think of a thing and so

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that's why you know with with my team

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we've got like we've got well paid well

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trained full time like us based like

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people doing our customer support and I

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obsess over it you know I try I look at

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all of the numbers I look at our

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happiness score which is how happy

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people are and that is you know I looked

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at the standards across the board and

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like Google and and a lot of companies

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that are really good at this they've got

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their satisfaction score like ninety to

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happiness right and we've been able to

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get ours to about eighty seven and

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that's pretty damn good and we're you

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know my mission is to get it better than

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Google's right and we're doing that

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we're making it better every day and

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that's actually had an effect on

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ourselves we make more money because our

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supports better because when a customer

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has an amazing experience and when

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they've dealt with other businesses like

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ours they've had a horrible one then who

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are they more likely to buy from next

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time around it's a no-brainer but only

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when you think like a systems thinker

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and also we obsess over the response

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time how fast from when someone submits

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a ticket to win we reply you know right

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now we're at like two hours or two and a

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half hours and I want to get that down

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you know my missions to get there to

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like six minutes right because I want it

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not to just be good enough I want it to

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be exceptional to the point they're our

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support becomes a marketing and sales

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tool in and of itself their systems

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thinking everything can be used to do

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anything because at all interconnects

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all right now I want to show you how a

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system basically works first and

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foremost because it's pretty simple and

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everything in the world works like this

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so you've got inputs over here and input

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so what you put into a system and then

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you've got processes in the middle of

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the triangle and the processes alike you

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know what happens with those inputs it's

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it's like you know it's how you're

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manipulating and combining and changing

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those inputs to produce something and

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then you've got on the other side the

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outputs and that's all really a system

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has inputs processes and outputs but

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then there's something that influences a

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system and that's the environment

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there's the Sun up here because like I

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said nothing works in a vacuum you know

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like when you're building out when

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you're doing anything like it's not like

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it's not it's not like it's not affected

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by something else

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everything is always running in a vacuum

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and a classic example of this is like

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you know your imagine you as a human and

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you've got your you know your you've got

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a your system a human is basically a

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system right you got all of these

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different components within you and then

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you've got all of the interconnections

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between all of them now if you want an

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output out of yourself which is good

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like if you want to be happy and if you

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want to perform well and do good work

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and be focused and all of that then if

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that's the output that you want then the

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inputs matter you know if you if you

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don't sleep properly then your output

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isn't going to be very good because

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sleepers are really important input if

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your food isn't good then your output

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isn't going to be very good and just to

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show you how input sexually affect

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outputs just try having like 20 beers as

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an input right just try to drink 20 of

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those and then see how see how sharp you

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are all right you you won't be so that's

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just right there that shows you that

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what goes in affects what comes out

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there's the saying you know with systems

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garbage in garbage out you know what

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what we put in is often what we get out

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and then we've got the environment which

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affects us too and humans are really

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influenced by our environment you know

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one of the largest influences of our

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happiness and things is the weather and

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you know if it's sunny

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we're statistically more likely to be

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happy just if it's sunny and if you

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don't believe me on this one then look

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at the most depressed countries in the

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world and it'll be those ones over like

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Greenland Iceland where they don't have

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any daylight for basically all that like

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most of the year right and then if you

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look at the some of the happiest places

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then you'll notice that it's it's places

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with really good with it all right

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and there's even a trader called like

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Paul Tudor Jones who who even has

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developed a stock trading algorithm that

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basically looks at with the patterns and

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humans reactions - with the patterns and

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at trade stocks based on that because

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peat humans are more likely to feel good

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and make optimistic bits winners sunny

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you know we think we're logical but

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we're affected by the Sun that changed

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the sale decisions alright and so we've

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got inputs outputs processes we've got

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our environment and then we have

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feedback and what feedback is is you

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know outputs actually affect inputs all

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right so all of this stuff is

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interconnected and a classic example of

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this is you know if you have just think

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about a crowd forming right so if you're

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if there's like a some sort of dance

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party or music event or something like

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that and let's say that no one is

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dancing in it's just an empty field then

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one person goes in and starts dancing

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that one person is going to be by

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himself for a while but then is another

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person comes in then people slowly start

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coming in faster and faster because the

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crowds now forming and then

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as soon as a lot of people start running

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in a lot more people start running and

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then a lot more people start running in

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and it grows exponentially and this is a

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classic example about how outputs come

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back and provide feedback to inputs

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alright and this happens the same way on

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the way back down you know if a lot of

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people start leaving like a dance dance

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circle or whatever the hell you call

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those things then a lot more people

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start leaving right and it it decreases

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just as fast as it is it increases and

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that's basically how it works now you

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know one thing this this operates

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everywhere this is what we call a

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feedback loop when you know when the

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output of something directly affects the

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input of something and a classic example

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of this is you know the stock market in

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stocks so the biggest influence on a

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price of a stock is the price of a stock

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so if a stock price is going up quite

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fast then that's going to influence more

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people to think oh this is good and in

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the people who put their money and

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they're gonna be like oh this this

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wasn't the right decision so they might

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put more in and tell more people and

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then you get you get your bubble you get

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your Bitcoin you know sort of event

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because of the feedback and so that's

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basically how systems work and so you

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don't have to be like an Einstein or a

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NASA space scientist to really become a

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systems thinker

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all you do is you just think about

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inputs outputs processes feedback

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environment so you want to think in your

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you know it yourself like if you want

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what outputs do you want out of yourself

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you want to do really good work do want

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to be healthy and fit well then you need

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to have good inputs you need to be good

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you need to eat good food you need to

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sleep and more than the physical things

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you need to put good you know good

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information into your brain you know if

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you if you don't ever read anything or

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watch anything or consume any form of

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information it is impossible for you to

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know anything all right we don't we're

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not just born knowing stuff we don't

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know anything when we're born other than

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some survival instincts which you know

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Pro

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into us from you know our evolution but

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the that's really it if we want to learn

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something we have to have inputs so you

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know smart people will often read books

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that's how they learn and then they'll

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often watch good sources of information

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you know they won't be watching the news

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and they won't be reading the newspaper

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and they won't be you know watching like

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Game of Thrones and binge watching

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Netflix because that's that it doesn't

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really teach you anything right but

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instead they'll be reading books and

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they will be doing experiments and

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learning and that'll be the input into

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their brain and then obviously the

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output is knowledge right so it doesn't

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matter where you look everything is this

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simple if you want to be healthy eat

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well sleep well drink water exercise

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those are the inputs the outputs are

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health right if you want to be

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knowledgeable or smart it's something

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read good books practice learn put those

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inputs in intelligence is the output and

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then if you want you know if you want to

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grow a business well then you've got to

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think like what are the inputs processes

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and outputs right and this is basically

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what I broke my business down to I

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realized inputs are basically is web

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traffic so people becoming aware of what

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we're doing right those are the inputs

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traffic number of human eyeballs coming

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through on the internet that's the input

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what is the process well that would be

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like right now it's my automated webinar

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so webinar that shows people the

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presentation explains what it's all

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about and sees if they're interested

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what is the output well it's like a

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customer someone signs up or not all

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right and then what's the environment

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well the environment is you know this

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changing PPC prices like the chain sorry

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the CPC prices so you know those move up

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and down and these are also competition

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you know if someone comes in and they're

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doing something better then that man

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he changes the environment right so this

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doesn't just run an isolation in a

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vacuum it is affected by a lot of other

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things and so a good a good systems

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thinker will first and foremost create a

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basic elementary system we have got

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inputs processes and outputs and they

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will test it at a small scale to make

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sure that it delivers the desirable

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outputs what is that well it's customers

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at a profit so if I spend a grand do I

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make like more than one grant do I want

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to make at least like two grand so if I

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put a thousand in and I get a bunch of

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clicks coming through and do I make more

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on the output if that is true at a small

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scale then it should be true at a lab

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scale and then we just keep scaling it

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up until we get you know to more than

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one hundred and twenty thousand a day

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all right it's as simple as that we

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don't you know we don't do some weird

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magic to just scale it up it has to be

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inputs it has to be an increase in

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inputs to move that thing up there is no

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magic magic has only things that people

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cannot understand right and this is what

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it is

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there's also feedback that comes from

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that you know if someone comes through

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our program and gets good results then

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they will tell people about the results

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and then more people are likely to buy

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my program because it's been getting

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people good results and then when they

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tell more people and more people join in

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that's more people who are likely to

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have good results and so when they're

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when they have better results they tell

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more people and you see what happens

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here we have a crowd forming sort of

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phenomenon but the environment is also

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playing a part you know we we have to

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watch what's going on with the internet

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and with CPC prices different channels

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different competitors different

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strategies right all of these things are

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influencing it and that's basically you

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know how I view my business and in every

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different part within the business and

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it's how I view myself it's how I view

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everything and I've been doing it for

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basically my whole life but I didn't

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really know what it was and I couldn't

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put a name in a word to it in its

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systems thinking now you're probably

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thinking

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all right I kind of get this but right

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now I want to make it really clear to

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you just the main tools in the main

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points of difference between you know a

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normal person and a systems thinker so

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here we've got tools alright so the

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first thing is disconnection and

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interconnectedness right top left and a

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normal person thinks with you know

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disconnection so they're thinking that

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everything is different and it's not

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interconnected so my customer support

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team has no effect on my sales all right

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and my marketing has no effect on my

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customer support and my customer support

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and my marketing have no effect on my

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finances all right there's me pretty

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messed up there's honestly how they

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think that's like you know that's like

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doctors who treat a specific symptom

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without understanding how that's gonna

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affect other systems within your body

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right and then we have you know the next

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one across is so good good systems

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thinkers always see that everything is

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interconnected there is no such thing

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that isn't connected to something else

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it is through multiple different

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dimensions everything is connected right

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and then linear versus circular so you

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know normal people they think that

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everything happens linearly and what I

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mean by that is that like an event

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happens now that affects like an event

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that happens there and then that affects

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an event that happens there but what

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they don't understand is that there's

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normal really happens otherwise how does

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a crowd form exponentially how do stock

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prices grow exponentially how do we get

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any form of exponential behavior when

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things happen in linear cause-and-effect

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chains right it's impossible the only

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reason why you know a crowd forms faster

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and faster and faster is because the

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more people that are joining influences

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the more

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that are joining and like I see it one

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of the biggest influences of the price

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of a stock is the price of a stock and

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if it's going up it's more likely to

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keep going up and if it's going down

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it's more likely to keep going down all

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right and so that happens because

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there's a feedback loop and the things

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happen in a circular sort of way not in

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a straight line not in a linear sort of

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way so that's important to understand

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and then you know the the next tool is

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silos versus like emergence so you know

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normal people think that everything

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happens like in a silo and they like to

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really trap everything down and bolt

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everything down and force things to

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happen the way that they wanted them to

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and only that way now let me give you an

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idea of this it's this is a tougher one

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to understand but when you really

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understand it it will help you in a big

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big way so emergence is basically

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letting the merchants basically as

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complex behavior that arises from simple

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rules and so if we look at like the

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formation of birds when they're flying

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it looks very very complex and like a

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form of art right and we probably would

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be we probably think there's something

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very sophisticated going on there but

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really it could just be a very simple

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rule that the birds have which is don't

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collide all right and based on that

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simple rule we get this amazing pattern

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and behavior in the formation of a bird

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and in the formation of a flock of birds

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and the same happens in business all the

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time like you don't need to control

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everything you can just set some simple

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rules and in their emergence happen and

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a perfect example of this in my business

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is we don't tell people you know what

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niche to pick we we did this before back

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when I didn't understand things so well

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you know I used to tell people these are

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the top 12 niches in the world I don't

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know who I think I was to be able to

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make a claim like that that I

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we know that which nobody can know it's

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anyone who claims that they know the top

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niches in the world is they don't

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understand how life in the world works

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and the reason why is because I'll give

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you an example of this and this is

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fascinating when I was at school you

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know a lot of this the social norms and

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what what society had kind of tended to

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believe is that trades and being a

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plumber or a carpenter or builder or an

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electrician you know they started to

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believe that doing these things is is

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not considered successful you know they

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were they were like these things became

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frowned upon and if you really wanted to

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be successful you are you going to be a

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doctor or an accountant or a lawyer

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these people are good worthy people

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these people are not good all right

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which is kind of messed up so you know a

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lot of parents would say that to the

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kids and you know a lot so then what

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happens right and they they probably

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thought that at that time this is how

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people don't understand systems thinking

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at that time doctors and lawyers and

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accountants probably made more money

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than trades people so they were like oh

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okay well then we should tell everybody

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to do these things because they

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obviously make more money and if they do

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these things then they will be more

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successful than these and so it doesn't

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nothing works there's some that's simple

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right so then they tell everyone to do

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these things people stopped going and

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and starting these sorts of trades then

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what happens with time is that we end up

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in a market where there's too many

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lawyers and accountants and not enough

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trades people and so back home in New

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Zealand this is happening right now I

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know this well because I've got friends

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that are accountants and lawyers and I

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also have friends that trades people a

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my dad was a builder so he knows this

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well too and right now in New Zealand

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carpenters and builders and plumbers and

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electricians make more money than

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accountants and lawyers but not this is

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this is the way it is and not just a

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little bit but a lot more

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so right now like if you work for the

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top law firm and you've got like

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first-class honours and more and all of

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the stuff and then you go get a job at a

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law firm right and then you're gonna

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make less money than if you're just a

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carpenter or a plumber or an electrician

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and so the tables have turned right and

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this is because people didn't know how

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to think like if you skew the evolution

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of something like that it's going to

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change right and that's what happened

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and my point with this is you know a lot

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of people don't understand when they're

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teaching a course and telling people

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what to do if they tell people to all do

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one thing then as soon as everyone is

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doing that one thing then it stops

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working because the only reason why it

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was working in the first place was

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probably because there wasn't a lot of

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people doing it so now that a lot of

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people are it loses its edge now it

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doesn't work as well and now the whole

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business blows up and the tactic and

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strategy is no longer useful all right

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same thing with niches if I find at a

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point in time that the best thing to do

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is helping dentists with Facebook ads

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then that might be true right now in a

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moment in time in time but if now I

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teach 10,000 people to do Facebook ads

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for dentists it's not the same anymore

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it's the same phenomenon we saw with the

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doctors lawyers accountants and in the

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trades people right so as soon as I

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started to learn this which was years

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ago I stopped telling people what niche

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to pick because I didn't know anyway and

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I know that the best the best form or

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the best niche to pick is something that

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is unique to you individually and as

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soon as I started doing this people came

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up with the most amazing niche ideas

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which I've never seen before in my

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entire life people started doing porn

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addiction consulting let hunter odors

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and when he did this he was way more

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successful we've got people who do

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consulting on irritable bowel syndrome

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we've got people who consult on like

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family crisis intervention we've got

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people who consult on you know losing

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weight and in in all of these different

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unique things that I would have never

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thought of that

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they've turned out to be extremely

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profitable for for all of these

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different people and it's because

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they're unique and it's because there is

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emergence happening and what happens is

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when you stop siloing things you know

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siloing is telling everyone that they

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should all do Facebook ads for dentists

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siloing is telling everyone that they

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should do you know law or accounting

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right emergence is letting things evolve

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for themselves and creating diversity

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and you know really letting things

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flower and that's a huge strategy and

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tactic that I've executed in my company

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that's helped us get to where we are

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today by removing the siloing letting

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emergence happen another one is parts

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and holes so like I told you it's like

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the the typical business owner who

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thinks customer support doesn't affect

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the whole it's just something that

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should be farmed out to somewhere for

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cheap it doesn't every part affects the

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whole alright and quite often the whole

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is only as good as its worst part so

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doesn't matter how good any like all

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these other things are if one parts

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rotten the whole is rotten alright it's

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all about having you know the whole

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operating the best I can and then we

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have analysis and synthesis so you know

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analysts that just a few one the core

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component without viewing the entire

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interconnectedness of all of the

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components they're not very good

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analysts a perfect example of that is

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the person who looks at their landing

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page and thinks that by improving their

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landing page conversion rate that

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they're improving their whole business

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not true

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I've seen that the opposite is true a

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lot of the time so that's an example you

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know I can view the whole in the

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synthesis instead of just individual

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component analysis and then isolation

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and relationships so you know a lot of

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people think that things just happen in

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a vacuum but the systems thinker will

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understand that everything is

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interconnect

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and everything has relationships with

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other things for example my mood is

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affected by the weather alright so if

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there's sunny I'm gonna be happier

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that's like a fact and then if I'm

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happier I'm gonna do a bit of work right

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and then if I do a bit of work then

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we're gonna make more money and help

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more people so if we trace that back the

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weather is actually quite important

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right so is my food

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so as my diet so as my exercise if these

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inputs are off my mood isn't very good

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if my mood isn't very good I don't do

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very good work if I don't do very good

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work I don't help my customers if I

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don't help my customers they don't make

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much money so all of this is

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interconnected you can start to see what

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I'm saying here right so some action

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steps for you to take how do you become

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a systems thinker well you want to start

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thinking of things like this I recommend

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that you take a screenshot of this thing

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actually I'll include a PDF of this

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beneath this video for download so just

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go to but beneath this video find this

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link grab the PDF printed out put on

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your wall learn to see everything as a

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system and learn to see what what are

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the input if you're analyzing anything

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or trying to troubleshoot or diagnose

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anything or fix it make it better just

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ask yourself what are the inputs what's

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the processes and then what are the

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outputs is their feedback present if so

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what is it as a positive is that

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negative what's the amplification of

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this feedback and in the environment

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what things or forces are are

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influencing this and in what sort of way

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all right understand this and then it

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makes everything so damn easy I mean I

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guess it doesn't make things really easy

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but compared to doing it without this I

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mean yeah it's like putting on glasses

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after being blind and then learning to

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see you know if you do this it'll make

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you learn to see so if you enjoyed this

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video what I want you to do is just

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click that like button also let me know

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what you thought of this video in the

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comment section below I'm gonna be

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checking these comments myself

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personally and if you've got any

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questions about systems thinking or how

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you can be your systems to think let me

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know in those comments also subscribe to

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my youtube channel if you liked this

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every single week as well as customer

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entrepreneur or if you're already one

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