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JAMARI
31 Jul 202415:12

Summary

TLDRThe video script details a heated online feud between content creators Moist Critical AKA Charlie and Streamer Sneo, highlighting their debates on controversial topics like age of consent and child transitioning. Sneo's provocative views and Charlie's controversial responses have sparked intense backlash and debate within their communities. The script culminates with Charlie's decision to take an indefinite hiatus from his podcast, suggesting the toll the online conflict has taken on his mental well-being.

Takeaways

  • πŸ˜€ The script recounts a conflict between YouTuber Moist Critical AKA Charlie and streamer Sneo, which involved personal attacks and public disputes.
  • πŸ” Sneo was in his 'red pill era', posting controversially about Charlie and others, leading to a heated online feud.
  • πŸ’¬ Charlie responded to Sneo's provocations with a tweet, calling him 'pathetic' and 'sensitive', escalating the tension.
  • 🀺 A pivotal moment in the conflict was a debate where Charlie was seen by many as the clear winner, due to Sneo's perceived immaturity.
  • πŸ“’ Sneo continued to criticize Charlie, particularly regarding his response to the 'Mr Beast and Creeper Chris' situation, accusing Charlie of hypocrisy.
  • πŸ—£οΈ Charlie defended himself against Sneo's accusations on Twitter and in a video, addressing the Creeper Chris situation and refuting Sneo's claims.
  • πŸ‘₯ The script also discusses a second debate between the two, which left viewers divided on who won, with both making 'strange comments'.
  • πŸ”’ Sneo expressed controversial views on the age of consent, suggesting it should be based on puberty rather than a fixed age, which Charlie challenged.
  • 🚫 Charlie argued against children making life-altering decisions, such as marriage to adults or undergoing hormone therapy, emphasizing the need for maturity.
  • πŸ’‘ The script mentions that Charlie may have walked into a debate trap set by Sneo, using Charlie's own logic against him regarding children's consent capabilities.
  • πŸ† The script concludes with updates on Charlie's decision to take an indefinite hiatus from his podcast and online presence, possibly due to the stress of the situation.

Q & A

  • What was the main conflict between Moist Critical AKA Charlie and Streamer Sneo?

    -The main conflict was a result of Sneo's 'red pill era' where he was posting relentlessly about Charlie and other YouTubers and streamers, which led to a public feud and debates between the two.

  • What was the infamous 'best commentary award' collage about?

    -The 'best commentary award' collage was a creation by Sneo, which included Charlie and was part of the online drama between them.

  • What was the content of Charlie's response to Sneo's provocations?

    -Charlie responded with a tweet calling Sneo a 'pathetic sensitive soy little worm' and addressing the accusations made by Sneo.

  • What was the context of Sneo's dancing around with a pistol in his hands?

    -Sneo was threatening Charlie with the pistol in his hands, saying 'watch my clips' in a video, which was part of the escalating drama between them.

  • What was the mistake Sneo made with the 'mags' and 'clips' comment?

    -Sneo mistakenly referred to magazines as 'clips' when threatening Charlie, which was corrected by others pointing out that he was holding magazines, not clips.

  • How did the majority of viewers perceive the outcome of the first debate between Charlie and Sneo?

    -The majority of viewers believed that Charlie had won the first debate, making Sneo appear immature in comparison.

  • What was Sneo's stance on the Mr Beast and Chris situation that he criticized Charlie for not addressing?

    -Sneo accused Charlie of being a coward and a hypocrite for not immediately speaking up about the Chris situation, implying that Charlie was avoiding the topic to maintain a collaboration with Mr Beast.

  • How did Charlie respond to Sneo's accusations regarding the Chris situation?

    -Charlie addressed Sneo's accusations in a video and on Twitter, stating that he was always going to make a full breakdown of the situation and that he does not shy away from discussing controversial topics.

  • What was the controversial topic discussed during the second debate between Charlie and Sneo?

    -The controversial topic was the age of consent and the ability of a child to consent to marriage or transitioning, which led to a heated exchange of views.

  • What was Sneo's argument regarding the age of consent and child transitioning?

    -Sneo argued that if everyone, including the child, is consenting, and there is no harm, then there should be no government involvement in personal decisions such as marriage or transitioning.

  • What was Charlie's stance on the age of consent and child transitioning?

    -Charlie believed that a child does not have the mental capacity to consent to marriage with an adult or to life-altering decisions such as transitioning.

  • What was the final outcome of the debates between Charlie and Sneo?

    -The outcome was conflicted, with some viewers believing Charlie won while others sided with Sneo. The debates led to further controversy and backlash, particularly against Sneo's views on the age of consent.

  • Why did Charlie decide to leave the podcast and go on an indefinite hiatus?

    -Charlie decided to leave the podcast and go on an indefinite hiatus to scale back his time spent on the internet, possibly due to the mental toll of the controversies and backlash he faced.

  • What was the reaction of the podcast community to Charlie's decision to leave?

    -The podcast community expressed understanding and support for Charlie's decision, wishing him the best and indicating that the show would be open for him to return if he wished.

Outlines

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😑 Controversy Between Moisés Arias and Sneo

The paragraph discusses a conflict between MoisΓ©s Arias, known as Moist Critical AKA Charlie, and a streamer named Sneo. The feud began when Sneo, in his 'red pill' phase, posted about Charlie and other YouTubers. Charlie eventually responded with a tweet criticizing Sneo. The situation escalated with Sneo threatening Charlie with a gun in a video clip, which Charlie mocked by correcting Sneo's mistake of calling 'clips' 'mags'. The conflict continued with debates, and Charlie was accused of hypocrisy for not speaking up about a situation involving Mr. Beast and Chris. Charlie defended himself on Twitter and in a video, addressing Sneo's accusations and the Chris situation, which led to another debate with mixed opinions on who won.

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πŸ€” Debate on Age of Consent and Transitioning

This paragraph delves into a debate between Charlie and Sneo about the age of consent and the ability of a child to make life-altering decisions such as marriage or transitioning. Sneo argues for a more lenient view on the age of consent, suggesting that if families consent and there is no harm, then a marriage between a 21-year-old and a 15-year-old could be acceptable. Charlie challenges this view, emphasizing that a 15-year-old lacks the mental capacity to consent to marriage. Sneo counters with the argument that if a child can consent to hormone therapy and transition, then the same logic should apply to marriage. Charlie falls into Sneo's trap, agreeing that children can transition with consent, which Sneo uses to highlight the inconsistency in Charlie's stance on the age of consent.

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🚫 The Problematic Logic of Allowing Minors to Make Major Decisions

The paragraph continues the debate on minors making significant life decisions, such as marriage or transitioning. Sneo's comments on the age of consent being linked to puberty are critiqued, with the argument that setting the age of consent at 18 is more about societal maturity and readiness rather than physical development. Charlie argues that children should not be allowed to make such decisions, and parents should not make them for them, comparing it to getting a tattoo on a baby's forehead. The paragraph also touches on the potential complications of early hormone blockers and the importance of waiting until adulthood to make decisions about transitioning.

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πŸ“‘ Charlie's Hiatus and Sneo's Controversial Stance

The final paragraph covers the aftermath of the debates, with Charlie facing backlash and eventually deciding to take an indefinite hiatus from his podcast and online presence. It also discusses Sneo's continued controversial stance on the age of consent and his audience's reaction to it. The paragraph notes that Sneo has not faced significant backlash from his own audience, despite the controversial nature of his views. It concludes with the narrator expressing sympathy for Charlie's decision to step away from the internet and the taxing nature of online debates.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Drama

In the context of the video, 'drama' refers to the conflict or intense disagreements between individuals, particularly the online feud between 'moist critical AKA Charlie' and 'streamer sneo'. It is a central theme of the video, illustrating the escalation of their dispute from online comments to public debates.

πŸ’‘Red Pill Era

The term 'Red Pill Era' is used to describe a phase in someone's life where they adopt a particular set of beliefs or ideologies, often associated with questioning societal norms. In the video, it is mentioned to characterize a period of sneo's life when he was posting about Charlie and other YouTubers, indicating a strong influence on his behavior and views.

πŸ’‘Beef

'Beef' in this context refers to a disagreement or rivalry, typically in a public or professional setting. The video discusses the 'beef' between Charlie and sneo, which includes public confrontations, debates, and online exchanges that have attracted viewers' attention.

πŸ’‘Debate

A 'debate' is a formal discussion on a particular topic in which different arguments are put forward by participants. The video script describes multiple debates between Charlie and sneo, which serve as a platform for them to express their views and counter each other's arguments on various controversial topics.

πŸ’‘Age of Consent

The 'Age of Consent' is a legal term referring to the minimum age at which a person is considered capable of consenting to sexual activity. The video delves into a debate about this concept, with sneo expressing controversial views that challenge conventional understandings of the age of consent, which is a central point of contention in their discussions.

πŸ’‘Hormone Therapy

Hormone therapy, specifically in the context of the video, refers to the medical treatment that involves taking hormones to induce changes in the body, often related to gender transition. The script mentions a debate about whether children should be allowed to undergo hormone therapy, highlighting a contentious issue in discussions about gender identity and the rights of minors.

πŸ’‘Mr Beast

In the video, 'Mr Beast' is mentioned in relation to a controversy involving a character named 'Chris'. The mention of Mr Beast serves to connect the ongoing feud between Charlie and sneo to a broader context of online personalities and the controversies they may be involved in, indicating the wider implications of their conflict.

πŸ’‘Transitioning

The term 'transitioning' in the video refers to the process of changing one's gender presentation and/or sex characteristics to align with one's gender identity, often involving medical interventions such as hormone therapy or surgeries. It is a key point in the debate between Charlie and sneo, particularly concerning the appropriate age for individuals to make such life-altering decisions.

πŸ’‘Indefinite Hiatus

An 'indefinite hiatus' implies a break or pause in activities that is not expected to be of a fixed duration. The video script reveals that Charlie has decided to take an indefinite hiatus from his online activities, suggesting a retreat from the public eye and the contentious debates that have been the focus of the video.

πŸ’‘Controversial Topics

The phrase 'controversial topics' refers to subjects that are prone to debate and disagreement due to differing opinions and beliefs. The video discusses several such topics, including the age of consent and transitioning, which have been central to the debates between Charlie and sneo and have contributed to the intensity of their conflict.

Highlights

Major drama between Moist Critical (Charlie) and streamer Sneo, with Sneo in his 'red pill era'.

Sneo's relentless posting about Charlie and other YouTubers led to a heated exchange.

Charlie's response to Sneo's provocations, calling him a 'pathetic sensitive soy little worm'.

Sneo's controversial stance on the age of consent and marriage involving minors.

Debate over whether a 21-year-old should be able to marry a 15-year-old.

Charlie's argument that a 15-year-old lacks the mental capacity to consent to marriage.

Sneo's use of Charlie's own logic against him in the debate over child transitioning.

Controversy over the appropriate age for making life-altering decisions like transitioning.

Sneo's comments on the age of consent being linked to puberty, not a fixed age.

Charlie's counterargument that the age of consent should be 18, aligning with personal freedoms.

Sneo's challenge to Charlie's stance on child transitioning, highlighting a logical inconsistency.

Charlie's clarification on his comments regarding child transitioning, acknowledging a misunderstanding.

Charlie's decision to leave his podcast and go on an indefinite hiatus from the internet.

The impact of online debates and controversies on mental health and the decision to step away from the internet.

Sneo's continued defense of his views on age of consent despite backlash.

The complexity of navigating controversial topics and the potential for public backlash.

Transcripts

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so last year we had some major drama

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between moist critical AKA Charlie and

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streamer sneo as sneo was in his red

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pill era and posting relentlessly about

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Charlie as well as a couple of other

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YouTubers and streamers he had made this

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Infamous collage of best commentary

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award is a dude who doesn't believe in

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anything Who games for 13 hours straight

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and so guys um I farted in a diarrhea

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and this happened I'm not going I'm not

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going to say name someone text he's in a

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monogamous relationship this is his girl

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he posted about Charlie to the point

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where he eventually had to reply with

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this tweet you pathetic sensitive soy

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little worm I made fun of you for

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watching your girlfriend get by numerous

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other men and also insulted you for

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defending that's not cancellation that's

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just spitting on you for being a pitiful

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sad out of this we would then get the

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clip of sneaky dancing around

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brandishing a pistol in his hands

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threatening Charlie saying that he could

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get these clips you want to watch my

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Clips watch my Clips watch my Clips this

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of course would give us the most

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glorious moment in the beef the mags

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comment but he's aing imbecile you

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absolute buffoon what you have there is

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not Clips these are mags they're mags

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not Clips the same way that this is also

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a MAG and then we would later get this

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debate overall in the eyes of most

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Charlie would decimate sneo here and

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make him look very immature and I would

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say the majority of viewers thought at

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this point that he had won the war well

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sneo had has again been trashing Charlie

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like no other especially over the recent

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situation with Mr Beast and his creeper

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Chris sneo stance was that Charlie is a

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coward for not immediately speaking up

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about this situation saying that he is a

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hypocrite for talking about Dr

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disrespect but not discussing Chris yo

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look out moist critical is not going to

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go talk about the Chris situation

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because he wants to have the Mr Beast

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collab well Charlie would respond to

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this on Twitter and even spend several

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minutes in his video about the Chris

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situation addressing sneo claim that he

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was ducking this topic I was always

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going to make a full breakdown of this

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because it's bad it's a horrible

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situation so yes you're right I do talk

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about like big trending bad [Β __Β ] like Dr

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disrespect or like Cody Co most recently

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I don't know why people thought I

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wouldn't talk about this so I've never

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been someone to can shy away from a bad

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situation like this just because I know

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or familiar with the person that it's

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about he has no problem abandoning his

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morals and defending blatant brushing it

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under the rug as long as it means it

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keeps the Mr Beast collab alive for you

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to make insinuations like that and even

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claims like that is unhinged considering

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you make

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actual defense arguments constantly well

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once again after this back and forth the

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two would have another debate and this

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time people were a lot more conflicted

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about who actually won as both of them

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made some very strange comments

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throughout this conversation now just to

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be completely transparent with you guys

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the full debate here was around 90

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minutes long and no I did not watch the

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entire thing I just feel like at this

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point my brain is already rotted enough

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and I didn't want to put it through that

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type of stress but if these two comments

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that these guys made are any indication

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of how this debate went overall yeah I

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just don't think my brain could have

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taken it so first let's talk about what

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sneo had to say as you guys know he's

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been riding the anti-age of consent wave

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for quite some time now it's just

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because we have a different idea of what

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it means to be a child which can be tra

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historically the general principle in

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Islam is you know you can do what you

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kind of want so long as I'm not going to

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say you can do what you want so long as

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you harm you can do you can marry

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whomever you want to marry so long as it

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doesn't cause them harm physical and

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psychological and once again is very

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relent and so Charlie kind of questioned

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him about his beliefs here asking him if

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a 21-year-old should be able to marry a

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15-year-old and you'll never believe

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what he has to say I'm talking about

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your personal beliefs do you think you

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do you think someone in their 20s should

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be able to marry a 15 or 16-year-old so

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should someone who's about to graduate

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college be able to marry someone who's

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just entering High School like last year

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they were running around on that Middle

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School playground I personally wouldn't

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do it I I don't know many people who

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would do it the maturity for people in

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the teenagers in the west is is getting

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much worse but there are talking

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globally let's just talk globally like

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do you think it is okay for I'm not

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talking about just you specifically

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anymore anyone do you think it's okay

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for for anyone in their 20s an adult to

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marry a 15 or 16-year-old a 21-year-old

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if if there was a a marriage where the

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father consented and the daughter

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consented and it was both good on both

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families and they wanted to do it why am

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I going to get involved why should we

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get the government involved well at that

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point that's almost like arguing well

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why should we have any laws at all I

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mean don't get me wrong I'm not a big

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fan of the government overreaching into

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people's personal lives and their

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personal decisions but as a society we

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have to have some sort of structure of

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what's right and wrong

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and I would think that most people with

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a rational brain can understand why a

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15-year-old is not mentally equipped to

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handle the decision of getting married

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to someone in their 20s why why why

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would I tell them if everybody's

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consenting if everybody's okay with it

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if the parents are okay with it if

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nobody's being harmed if it's going to

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be okay if they're both abiding by by

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the rules and they're not hurting each

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other why not because like I said the

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15-year-old just does not have the

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mental capacity to truly understand what

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they're doing and so really cannot

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consent to the marriage and I believe

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that is kind of Charlie's point that he

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tries to make against sne here which I

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think is the right line of thinking the

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only problem is sneo uses the classic

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debate tactic of using Charlie's own

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logic against him when Charlie would try

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to make an even possibly more

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mindboggling point about a child's

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ability to choose to transition but

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we'll get back to that in a second I did

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first want to talk about some of the

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other comments that sneo has made

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regarding the age of consent well like

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why does that Define the age of consent

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I had a debate about this and I said the

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age of consent is maturity is the age of

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puberty once the body is mature cuz it

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bro I know some people I went through

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puberty when I was like 17 saying that

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the age of consent should be when

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somebody goes through puberty is just

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insane like I don't know if these type

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of comments come from a creepy place or

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it's just an effect of constantly having

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to play The Devil's Advocate over and

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over again while also trying to have the

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most shocking opinion possible that's

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why the age of consent being strictly

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exactly on this second 18 this defines

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maturity and everyone has to pretend

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like yes that defines maturity this is

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the correct age not one second more not

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one second less and if anything

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contradicts it you're disgusting I mean

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to me it's just such a weird Hill to

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choose to die on over and over again I

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mean by his logic if a girl goes through

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puberty at the age of 12 which I believe

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many of them do well she then prepared

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to marry you know some 25-year-old man

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she's mentally equipped to do so I mean

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by his very same logic he should have

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absolutely no problem with what Chris

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from Mr Beast just did as a matter of

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fact in his book Chris could have went

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out and married that kid that he was

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talking to through Discord and he should

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really have no problem with it right as

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long as the kids start going through

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puberty and the mo critical is like sneo

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you say that the age of consent is uh

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what do you think it is I don't know

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what do you think it is tell me you

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think it's 18 it's only 18 in something

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like 10 states M the rest of it's 6 17

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16 around the world it's 16 a lot of

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places 14 15 so what do you think it is

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is everybody in the world Japan they

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just change it from 13 to 16 were they

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before then what's the consistency to me

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the blanket age of consent all over the

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world should probably be 18 like at

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least in this country that's when you

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start getting more personal freedoms

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that's the age where if you up the

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government no longer sees you as a child

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and they're going to punish you as an

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adult and at that point you're really

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just free to make your own decisions and

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live with the repercussions of your

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actions I don't know to me it just does

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not have to get a lot deeper than that

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and here is where Charlie actually falls

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right into snoo's trap do you believe

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that somebody can go through uh hormone

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therapy can they change their gender if

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they're a child I think that's totally

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fine as long as everyone is consenting

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as you agree with okay just look at the

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Glee on sn's face as he realizes that he

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fell for his trap Cardone therapy can

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they change their gender if they're a

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child I think that's totally fine as

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long as everyone is consenting as you

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agree with and obviously guys what's the

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point that's about to be made sneo is

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pretty much going to say well Charlie so

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a kid cannot consent to Marrying an

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adult but they can't consent to making a

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life-altering decision okay so as long

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as everyone your parents are okay with

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it and you are okay with it I am I think

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that's totally a familiar decision to

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make yeah okay so they're literally

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making the exact same stupid arguments

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about two different very I guess

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controversial topics so a child can cut

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their off and take homeon blockers and

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change their biology forever but they

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can't get married well that's a decision

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that now extends beyond the family cuz

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now you're bringing in a different party

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so if you have someone that's your age

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coming in saying I want to marry that

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child I yep I don't think that can

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happen under any circumstance yeah but

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neither thing should happen under any

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circumstance I mean listen guys I'm all

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for transitioning once you are an adult

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using your own money okay I don't think

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taxpayers should pay for that type of

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surgery but if you want to go and do

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whatever you want to your own body well

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I'm really all for it because at the end

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of the day I am for adults having their

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own personal freedoms but should a child

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be able to make that type of

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life-altering decision absolutely not

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should their parents be able to make

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that type of life-altering decision for

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their kid to me no like if I take a baby

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to a tattoo parlor and say hey I consent

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put a tattoo right across their forehead

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that says Idiot there's a reason that

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nobody is going to allow you to do that

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okay if I'm 16 and I personally want to

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marry this girl she's beautiful she's 21

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years old her family wants to do it my

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family wants to do it you're say saying

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I can't do that we're both consenting

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I'm ready to go I'm physically mature

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but I'm not allowed to marry because Moy

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says that's that woman's but if then the

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next day I leave it I'm depressed I want

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to cut my penis off I can go right into

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the clinic snip it off and start taking

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HRT like Chris Tyson that's a society

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that makes sense to you it is I believe

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everyone has complete yep I believe

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everyone has the right to do with their

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body what they want to do okay it's just

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so bad I got to say this is is the

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biggest L I've probably ever seen

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Charlie take and he kind of just walked

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right into it I mean like I said once

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someone starts using your own logic

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against you the debate is pretty much

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over I mean at the end of the day guys

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you know what my point of view is that

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neither of those things are okay the

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other thing I did want to say is I do

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believe that it's actually a lot easier

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for someone to transition if they want

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to do that if they wait until they're an

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adult I believe if you start taking the

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hormone blockers too young and your

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reproductive organs don't have the right

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time to develop there will usually be a

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lot of complications with the surgery in

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the future so in theory it's actually in

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everyone's best interest including

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people who know they want to transition

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at a very young age to wait until they

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are at least 18 either way after this

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Charlie has kind of been getting cooked

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online sneo has pretty much been begging

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him to release this debate on his

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channel so I am curious to see what he

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will do from here because like as

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someone who puts his opinion out there

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online for a living this was kind of a

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take that a lot of people seem to

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disagree with so I had actually recorded

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that video yesterday and as I was

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editing it right now we actually did get

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some updates on the situation that

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include Charlie apparently walking his

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comments back and him also potentially

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leaving the internet altogether and now

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I give a perspective on something that

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immediately gets misconstrued and I do

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recognize a lot of it's my fault I

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assumed that sneo was talking in

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hyperbole about a 9-year-old getting

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their cut off because I didn't have the

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assumption that anyone thought that's

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that that is how transitioning works

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under no circumstances any legality

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behind a kid saying I want to change

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genders and then immediately going in

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and getting their cut off that doesn't

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happen I thought he was just talking in

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hyperbole I mean I think he was kind of

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just trying to discuss the idea of a

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child transitioning in general and if

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that's okay I thought he was talking

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about the overall point of a child

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transitioning which is years long

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process and you can't even get that

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surgery legally until you are 18 yeah

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but you can definitely start

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transitioning and taking in these

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various hormones before you turn 18

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years old especially in some states and

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I guess I should have assumed that he

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was being literal and that's on me but

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yeah there's no winning on anything sneo

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gets away with saying 12 to 15y olds can

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marry adults I don't think his chat

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looks anything like the YouTube chat

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here he literally multiple times

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reaffirms that he believes 12 to 15

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yearolds can legally morally and should

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marry adults and there is no problems

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for him but I said that I think it's

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okay for a child to transition to learn

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about it it's a process you don't just

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go in and immediately get your cut off

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that's not how it works I mean I

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wouldn't say that he's even necessarily

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walking anything back there I also think

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that the argument he makes about like oh

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everyone's acting like what sneo said is

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okay is just kind of minute like it's

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not really relevant because I have seen

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sneo obviously catching a lot of

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backlash over this age of consent thing

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for quite some time and it's pretty

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obvious at this point that he's kind of

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cultivated the type of audience that's

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going to ride with whatever the he

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thinks so I'm not surprised that they're

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not like giving him backlash over those

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comments that's what he has been

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preaching for quite a long time either

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way this news gets a little bit spicier

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after it was announced earlier today

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that Charlie is apparently going to be

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stepping away from his podcast show

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update Goodbye Charlie hey everyone

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effective immediately Charlie has made

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the decision to leave both the official

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podcast and red thread he wants to go on

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indefinite Hiatus to scale back his time

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spent on the internet we obviously wish

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him the best for everyone to respect his

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decision and for all to know that the

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show will always be open for him to drop

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by and talk shop should he wish to

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return so yeah it seems like Charlie

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might not be in the best place right now

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and I do completely understand if he

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wants to spend less time on the internet

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this job in general can be very taxing

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from a mental standpoint and I can

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recognize how hard it can be to step

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away from something that is so lucrative

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for you that just become part of your

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life but it can also be very toxic when

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you start talking about more

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controversial topics and obviously you

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reading the comments every day there's

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people that disagree with you there's

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people that hate you for your opinions

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and maybe if he was already feeling kind

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of burnt out this might have just been

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like the straw that broke the camel's

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back and despite him dropping what I

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think is like pretty horrendous take

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obviously I wish the best for him and

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hopefully he's going to be doing all

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right but y'all let me know what you

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guys think about this situation down

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below it is interesting to see someone

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who always seems you know so composed to

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be a little bit shaken in this way

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especially by a person that a lot of

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people don't take very seriously either

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way I do want to thank you guys for

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dropping a like on today's video and

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subscribing to the channel but as you

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guys know it's been your boy the tan

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Superman and some other horrible debates

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out here need to be covered so I'm out

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peace

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