Are Deloads Actually Useless!? (Examining The Science)

Renaissance Periodization
25 Apr 202408:55

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Dr. Mike and Meno H. discuss the concept of deloading in training. They challenge the common belief of taking a full week off every eight weeks, arguing that it's unnecessary unless there's significant overreaching. They advocate for reactive deloading based on performance and muscle recovery, suggesting adjustments in training volume and frequency instead of a fixed schedule.

Takeaways

  • πŸ‹οΈβ€β™‚οΈ The concept of taking a full week off after every eight weeks of training is not necessarily required unless there is a significant overreaching phase.
  • πŸ” Dr. Mike suggests that the idea of taking a week off is more of a Gregorian calendar bias rather than being evidence-based.
  • πŸ“š Historically, some publications have suggested a week off after four weeks of hard training, but recent studies indicate this may not be the most effective approach.
  • ⏱️ Muscle recovery times for trained individuals doing habitual workouts are typically 72 hours at most, not requiring a full week off.
  • 🧠 High volume studies from Norway show that even with six sets per muscle group per day, recovery is possible within a day or less.
  • πŸ’‘ Instead of a full week off, a reactive deload based on performance indicators is recommended, which can be more targeted and less time-consuming.
  • πŸ“‰ If performance declines, it could be a sign of overreaching and an indication to adjust training intensity or volume for recovery.
  • 🚫 Pre-planning deloads may not be necessary; instead, occasional deloads can be beneficial for managing systemic fatigue and motivation.
  • πŸ›‘ In cases of overreaching, a simple reactive deload model of taking off the rest of the sets for a particular workout can be effective.
  • πŸ”„ If recovery is not achieved after a simple deload, further adjustments such as another reactive deload or a recovery half-week may be necessary.
  • πŸ€” The script also humorously addresses a hypothetical scenario involving aliens and the importance of convincingly treating a celebrity like a queen to save Earth.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic discussed in the video script?

    -The main topic discussed in the video script is the concept of deloading in training programs, specifically the idea of taking a week off after a certain period of intense training and whether it is necessary or beneficial.

  • Who is Dr. Mike and what is his stance on the deload week?

    -Dr. Mike is a fitness expert who appears in the video script. He argues against the idea of taking a full week off as a deload unless it is specifically needed due to overreaching or high volume training.

  • What does Dr. Mike suggest as an alternative to a full week deload?

    -Dr. Mike suggests a reactive deload model, where instead of planning a deload in advance, you react to your progress and recovery needs, potentially taking off the rest of the sets for a workout if performance declines.

  • According to the script, what is the typical recovery time for trained individuals doing habitual workouts?

    -The script suggests that for trained individuals doing habitual workouts, the recovery time is typically 72 hours at most, and can be as little as a day if the volume is not excessive.

  • What is the Gregorian calendar bias mentioned in the script?

    -The Gregorian calendar bias refers to the arbitrary decision to take a full week off based on the structure of the calendar, rather than on scientific evidence or individual recovery needs.

  • What is the General Adaptation Syndrome mentioned by Dr. Mike?

    -The General Adaptation Syndrome is a concept that describes the body's response to stress, including the stages of alarm, resistance, and exhaustion. Dr. Mike uses it to explain that a decline in performance could indicate that the body has not yet fully recovered from the stress of training.

  • What does the script say about the idea of deloading every single muscle group?

    -The script argues against the need to deload every single muscle group unless they are all overreached at the same time. It suggests that targeted deloads for specific muscle groups that have been overtrained might be more appropriate.

  • What is the role of performance in deciding when to deload?

    -Performance plays a crucial role in deciding when to deload. If performance is going down instead of improving, it could be a sign that the individual has not yet recovered and might need a deload.

  • What is the concept of a 'reactive deload' as opposed to a 'proactive deload'?

    -A 'reactive deload' is a deload that is implemented in response to signs of insufficient recovery or declining performance, rather than being planned in advance. A 'proactive deload' is planned as part of the training program regardless of current recovery status.

  • What advice does Dr. Mike give for individuals who find their performance declining over several workouts?

    -Dr. Mike advises that if performance declines over several consecutive workouts, it might be necessary to take action by implementing a reactive deload, potentially skipping the rest of the sets for that workout or reducing the volume and intensity for a half-week.

  • How does the script relate to the idea of overtraining and undertraining?

    -The script suggests that for most individuals, the issue is more likely to be overreaching rather than undertraining. It emphasizes the importance of listening to the body's signals and adjusting training intensity and volume accordingly to avoid overtraining.

Outlines

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πŸ‹οΈβ€β™‚οΈ Training and Recovery: Debunking the One-Week Deload Myth

In this paragraph, Dr. Mike discusses the common belief in fitness circles that athletes should take a full week off after every eight weeks of training. He challenges this notion by citing recent studies that suggest a full week off is only necessary if an individual has overreached in their training. Dr. Mike explains that for trained individuals, the recovery time for non-novel workouts is typically 72 hours at most. He introduces the concept of reactive deloading, which involves adjusting training intensity based on performance indicators rather than pre-planning deloads. He emphasizes the importance of monitoring performance to determine when a deload is truly necessary and suggests that a proactive approach to deloading may not always be beneficial.

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πŸ› οΈ Implementing Reactive Deload Strategies in Training

The second paragraph delves deeper into the concept of reactive deloading, providing practical advice on how to implement it. Dr. Mike suggests that if performance declines, it might be an indication that the body has not fully recovered, and a deload may be in order. He recommends a simple reactive deload model where, if performance drops, the remainder of the workout's sets are omitted. If recovery is still not achieved, further deloads or a reduction in training volume for a half-week may be necessary. The paragraph also humorously touches on a hypothetical scenario involving aliens and the importance of convincingly treating a celebrity like a queen to save Earth, highlighting the speaker's lighter side. Finally, Dr. Mike provides information on where to find more of his content, including his website and social media platforms.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Overreaching

Overreaching refers to a training state where an athlete or individual has exceeded their normal training load to the point of potential negative impact on performance. In the video, Dr. Mike discusses the misconception that a week off is necessary after overreaching, arguing that recovery times can vary and are often shorter than a week, depending on the individual's training status and the nature of the workout.

πŸ’‘Deload

A deload is a period of reduced training intensity or volume, intended to allow the body to recover and adapt from the stress of training. The script mentions the idea of a 'whole week off' as a form of deload, but Dr. Mike challenges this by suggesting that deloads should be more reactive and specific to the individual's needs rather than a one-size-fits-all approach.

πŸ’‘Recovery

Recovery in the context of the video pertains to the physiological process of rest and repair that follows a workout or training session. Dr. Mike emphasizes that recovery times for trained individuals are typically much shorter than a week, and that recovery should be based on performance indicators rather than a fixed schedule.

πŸ’‘Gregorian Calendar Bias

This term, used in the script, refers to the cultural habit of structuring time around the seven-day week, which may not align with optimal recovery periods for athletes. Dr. Mike points out that the idea of taking a full week off is influenced by this bias, rather than scientific evidence or individual needs.

πŸ’‘Performance Indicators

Performance indicators are measurable outcomes that reflect the effectiveness of training or the state of an athlete's performance. In the video, Dr. Mike suggests using performance indicators, such as a decline in performance, as a sign that an individual may need to deload or adjust their training regimen.

πŸ’‘Proactive Deload

A proactive deload is a planned period of reduced training, scheduled in advance as part of a training program. Dr. Mike contrasts this with a reactive deload, suggesting that while proactive deloads can be beneficial, they should not be the sole method of managing training intensity and recovery.

πŸ’‘Reactive Deload

A reactive deload is a period of reduced training that is implemented in response to specific signs of overtraining or inadequate recovery. The script discusses this concept as a more flexible and individualized approach to deloading, where the need for deload is determined by the athlete's performance and recovery status.

πŸ’‘Volume

In the context of training, volume refers to the total amount of work done in a given period, often measured by the number of sets and repetitions. The video mentions high volume training as a scenario where a more targeted deload might be necessary if overreaching occurs.

πŸ’‘Muscle Soreness

Muscle soreness is a common symptom of muscle damage or strain, often experienced after intense physical activity. In the script, muscle soreness is mentioned as one of the factors that might indicate the need for a deload or reduced training intensity.

πŸ’‘General Adaptation Syndrome

General Adaptation Syndrome (GAS) is a concept in stress theory that describes the body's response to stressors, including the stages of alarm, resistance, and exhaustion. Dr. Mike refers to GAS to explain the importance of recognizing when an athlete is in the stress phase and may need to deload to avoid overtraining.

πŸ’‘Functional Overreaching

Functional overreaching is a state of temporary performance decline due to training stress, which is part of the adaptation process and can lead to improved performance if managed correctly. The video discusses the use of a recovery half week as a strategy to manage functional overreaching and ensure adequate recovery.

Highlights

The concept of taking a full week off for deloading is not supported by evidence and is based on a Gregorian calendar bias.

Muscle recovery times for trained individuals doing habitual workouts are typically 72 hours at most.

High volume workouts can sometimes recover in a day if not exceeding six sets per muscle group.

Studies in Norway have shown that individuals can recover from high frequency training up to seven days a week.

A whole week off is only necessary if every single muscle group is overreached at the same time.

A reactive deload, rather than a proactive one, is more appropriate as it responds to actual progress and recovery needs.

Performance decline can be an indicator of overreaching and the need for a deload.

General Adaptation Syndrome suggests that if performance is not improving, recovery may not be complete.

Occasional planned deloads can be beneficial for reducing systemic fatigue and increasing motivation.

A simple reactive deload model involves taking off the rest of the sets for a workout if performance declines.

If performance does not recover after a simple deload, further adjustments may be necessary.

High volume training phases might require more than one workout of deloading.

A recovery half week can be used to reduce volume and load, helping muscles recover more effectively.

Overreaching in one muscle group does not necessarily require a full week off; targeted adjustments can be more effective.

A leg press example is given to illustrate how performance decline can dictate the need for a deload.

The idea of pre-planning all deloads is not recommended; instead, reactive adjustments based on performance are more effective.

Menah Hanson's website and social media platforms are mentioned for further content and resources.

The concept of a 'recovery half week' is introduced as a strategy for managing muscle recovery and training volume.

Transcripts

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do I need one week if I get overreached

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or what I don't think so there was no

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evidence ever to support that you need a

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week

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off folks Dr Mike here for anization

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this is manah hansmans from manah

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hms.com

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and menow I have a question for

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you I'm a religious man you know this

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and my religion is that every single

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eighth week of training I D Lo I never

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Delo before eight weeks and I sure

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should ever deal it after am I doing

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something wrong could I do something

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better yeah that's something that a lot

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of people actually believe and in fact a

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lot of people inspired by the by Paquin

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in large part based on the was Paul

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Quinn the guy that did all this uh if

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you had asked him probably he wouldn't

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be as literal about it but there were

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some Publications with him is the offer

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that basically says four weeks hard

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training full week off or massive de lo

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and that has actually been recently

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studied by Mike and um other good offers

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so it doesn't work very well for one the

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whole concept of taking a whole week off

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is Hardcore you you need a good reason

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for that if you don't build up to an

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overreaching phase you don't need a full

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week off if you look at Muscle Recovery

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times of trained individuals doing

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habitual workouts to very crucial points

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there you're not an untrained individual

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and you're doing a workout that is not

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novel for you the recovery time of that

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is 72 hours at the very most even if you

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look at very high volume workouts and in

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many cases if you're not going over say

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six sets per muscle group the recovery

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time can literally be a day there have

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been frequency high frequency studies in

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Norway where they look at individuals

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doing six sets per day for six days a

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week can probably even do it seven days

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that's hardcore that's super hardcore

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but you can work up to that and actually

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recover from it so the idea that you

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need a whole week off again this is

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massive Gregorian calendar bias you know

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it just happens to be a full week

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because we organize our calendar in

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weeks there was no evidence ever to

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support that you need a week off so

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that's point one the duration doesn't

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make sense two the need to Deo every

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single muscle group doesn't make sense

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unless every single muscle group is

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overreached at the same time exactly so

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if you are again the the concept with

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all week off or whole D out week it

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would only make sense if you are

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overreaching or working up to super high

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volume and then doing a more targeted D

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Lo period ideally for every single

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muscle group that you indeed did high

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volume four so what's much more apt to

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use in my view is to do a reactive de

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load also because you can't predict when

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exactly you will need the D Lo a

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reactive D Lo means that in contrast to

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a proactive D Lo which means you plan it

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in advance you react to how your

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progress goes during a program you can

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react to other stimuli as well whether

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it's pump muscle soreness delay onet

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muscle damage all of that stuff or you

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can just react to Performance which is

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often what I do and I think RP

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hypertrophy app also primarily looks at

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performance right correct so if your

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performance is going down instead of up

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that's a bad sign and if you're training

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very hard if you look at the General

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Adaptation Syndrome that's an indication

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probably you have not yet fully

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recovered you are still in that stress

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and Recovery phase and your performance

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has not yet superc compensated if you're

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training like an absolute wuss it's also

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possible that you didn't train hard

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enough but I think for most individuals

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watching this hopefully it's more likely

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that you are overreaching than massively

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under trining so if your performance is

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not yet recovered from your last workout

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that is an indication that for those

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muscle groups again it's specific to

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those muscle groups you have not yet

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recovered and it might make more sense

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to do speed work or take that session

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off for that exercise and especially if

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you see that say two days in a row or

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two workouts in a row like you do bench

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press performance is worse you do bench

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press again performance is again worse

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okay now that's definitely a trend you

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need to take action for if you're just

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going to wait eight weeks and you see

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your performance go down for eight weeks

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you're going to dig yourself into a

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terrible recovery hole for absolutely no

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reason because this has been studied and

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the super compensation response that you

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get after that it's not going to be

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worth eight weeks of gains it's more

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like one week of gains that sucks okay

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so what man is saying I guess is let me

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let me so what you're saying is you

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don't necessarily want to pre-plan all

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of your dads MH I would say is you want

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to pre-plan some occasional D loads

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because a week of easy training costs

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you no gains lower systemic fatigue

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increases your motivation to train again

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allows you a week of easy stuff to

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handle some life but we need some stuff

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in the middle there if a muscle

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overreaches too soon are you saying that

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if my biceps overreach in week three of

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a six-week plan I should take a one week

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de lo for biceps or do you have any

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other tricks that maybe are not as

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extreme do I need week if I get

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overreached or what I don't think so I

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think most of the time you don't need a

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week in fact most of the time especially

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if it's just one workout that was off

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just take off the rest of the sets for

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that workout that's often enough if you

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do that every single time super simple

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reactive Deo model if performance goes

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down instead of up you take the rest of

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the sets off for that workout and if

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then you see the next workout is fine

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again that was evidently enough to get

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you out of your recovery hole and

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recover so that can be a very simple

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reactive de lo model now if you notice

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that you're not yet recovered afterwards

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then you might need to do other things

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if you might need to even do another

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reactive de lo and if you are really

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going to step it up on the volume or you

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do a PL overreaching phase those type of

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things then it might make more sense to

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take more than one workout where you

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deload but most of the time I think

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especially if you're not doing super

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high frequency training one workout that

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you Deo is enough for like the you know

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the the daily life didn't sleep that

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well didn't have your nutrition that

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well in order that type of stuff okay so

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what you're saying is if I leg

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pressed 200 kilos for a set of 10 this

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week or this next workout I leg pressed

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200 kilos for a set of nine and I really

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tried it just didn't happen instead of

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doing the five other sets that I was

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planning for quads I just don't do any

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more quads that is enough of a super

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small volume or stimulus and fatigue

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accretion that by the next workout that

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I do leg press I might get 200 for 13 or

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200 for 11 because uh just taking all

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those sets off is good yeah yeah I would

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personally never just do like one

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workout per week where you train quads

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yeah sorry uh per unit time yeah uh and

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then for extra cautious something we do

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at RP is a recovery half week so if your

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muscle let's say your back is really

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beat up take all of the workouts in the

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next half of training as roughly one

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half of the volume one half of the load

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and even one half of the repetitions

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that's so easy it's a warm-up you do a

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week a half week of warm-ups by the time

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you come back to week you should be

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recovered enough to at least finish out

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the rest of your mesal cycle before your

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pre-planned de lo because of that

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functional overreaching that we do at RP

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decent all right let me ask you another

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question that's a little bit related to

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D loing aliens come they point the

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phaser gun at Earth and they're like

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meno which actress would you be married

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to for one whole Gregorian calendar year

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convincingly treating her like a

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quain so that we don't blow up the

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Earth you better be convincing two men

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on none this I have I have an

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answer for myself for a celebrity

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actress I want to hear yours I can go

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only by looks because I I watch quite

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some movies but I really don't follow

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any of the celebrity gossips I have no

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idea what their personalities are but

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the the girl that was in or woman that

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was in The Matrix Matrix 2 she kind of

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cheats with Neo she's the wife of the

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the oh Scott's a perfect he knows Monica

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beluchi she's legendary by the

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way sure she exemplifies this right

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here right Monica beluchi yeah o dying

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peace good answer meno always great to

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have you on where can people find you

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meno hanson.com if you don't know any of

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my contents you can get a free tour free

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email course go to my website

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immediately spam it in your face and you

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get a tour of my most popular contents

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if you're on YouTube I'm also on YouTube

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at men. hansome and of course Instagram

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guys thank you so much for tuning in and

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by the way my question my answer to that

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question I asked earlier isar lizo see

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you guys next time what's

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