We can judge public figures' private lives because we are entitled to opinions, says Noah Robson

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1 Apr 202410:14

Summary

TLDRThe debate centers on the public's right to judge the private lives of public figures once that information becomes public. The speaker argues that while privacy is important, the public should not be denied the right to form opinions on private matters when they impact public roles, using the Profumo affair as an example. They refute the notion that the debate supports press intrusion and emphasize the importance of distinguishing between private and public matters, concluding that individuals should have the freedom to judge based on their values and beliefs.

Takeaways

  • πŸ—£οΈ The debate is about the right to judge the private lives of public figures when such information becomes public, not about the right to know or the methods used to obtain that information.
  • 🎯 The motion asserts that if private information about a public figure is known, individuals have the right to form an opinion and make judgments based on that information.
  • 🚫 The debate does not propose that public figures should not have privacy or that we should invade their privacy; it focuses on the principle of judging once information is public.
  • πŸ‘€ The speaker emphasizes that the right to judge is a fundamental human right and an aspect of basic human instinct to form opinions about others.
  • 🌐 The speaker argues that the public has a role in judging the credibility and integrity of public figures, especially when their private actions could impact public trust and decision-making.
  • πŸ“š The example of the Profumo affair is used to illustrate how the public's judgment of a public figure's private life can have significant political consequences.
  • πŸ›οΈ The speaker acknowledges the importance of privacy for public figures but argues that this does not negate the public's right to judge once information is known.
  • 🀝 The debate is not about supporting unethical press methods but about the right to form an opinion once information is in the public domain.
  • πŸ” The speaker challenges the opposition's potential argument that privacy is a human right, suggesting that the infringement of privacy does not negate the right to judge.
  • πŸ€” The practical difficulty of distinguishing between private and public matters is highlighted, arguing that it's unrealistic to draw a clear line for what can be judged.
  • πŸ’­ The conclusion emphasizes that the right to judge is about having an opinion in one's mind, not necessarily about sharing or acting on that opinion.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the debate?

    -The main topic of the debate is whether the public has a right to judge the private lives of public figures.

  • What are the three key definitions provided in the script?

    -The three key definitions provided are: 'private life' as a person's personal relationships, interests, and activities distinct from their public or professional life; 'public figure' as someone who has achieved fame, prominence, or notoriety within a society; and the proposition that the public has a right to judge the private lives of public figures.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the right to privacy for public figures?

    -The speaker acknowledges that public figures have a right to privacy but argues that if information about their private lives becomes public, the public has a right to judge that information.

  • What example is used to illustrate the importance of judging the private lives of public figures?

    -The speaker uses the example of the Profumo affair, where the private life of a senior politician became public knowledge and affected public trust in the government.

  • What is the speaker's argument against the opposition's potential points?

    -The speaker argues that even if the opposition brings up issues like press intrusion, phone hacking, and unethical methods of gathering stories, the debate is about the right to judge, not the methods used to obtain the information.

  • Who are the three speakers introduced for the opposition side?

    -The three speakers introduced for the opposition side are Chris Collins, a fourth-year classic student at Corpus Christie College; Lord Folks, an English Barrister and sitting Peer who is the chairman of IPSO; and Sharon GAA, a social media influencer and former Love Island contestant.

  • What is the speaker's view on the practicality of distinguishing between private and public matters?

    -The speaker believes that it is practically impossible to establish a clear line between private and public matters, making it unrealistic to categorize aspects of one's life into public and private sections.

  • What is the speaker's final argument for the proposition side?

    -The speaker's final argument is that voting for the proposition side does not require supporting unethical methods of the press or believing that celebrities should not be entitled to privacy. It simply requires believing in the right to have an opinion about public figures' private lives when such information is publicized.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the relevance of private information to public roles?

    -The speaker believes that if private information is relevant to a public figure's role, it can and should affect how the public views them, especially if it damages their credibility.

  • How does the speaker address the potential moral implications of judging private lives?

    -The speaker acknowledges the moral implications but argues that the right to privacy has already been infringed upon by the public disclosure of information, and that does not prevent the public from upholding their right to judge.

Outlines

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πŸ—£οΈ The Right to Judge Public Figures' Private Lives

The speaker introduces the debate on whether the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures. They clarify that the debate is not about the right to privacy of public figures, the right to know about their private lives, or the obligation to judge them constantly. Instead, it focuses on the principle of having the right to judge if such information becomes public. The speaker emphasizes the importance of this right, suggesting that it is an argument about the freedom to hold opinions. They also introduce the esteemed speakers for the opposition, setting the stage for a nuanced discussion on the balance between public scrutiny and personal privacy.

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πŸ‘οΈ Privacy vs. Public Judgment: The Debate Unfolds

This paragraph delves into the necessity of judging the private lives of public figures when such information is relevant to their public role. The speaker uses the example of the Profumo affair to illustrate how the public's judgment can impact trust in political figures. They argue that refusing to judge based on private information that affects public trust is misguided. The speaker also addresses potential opposition arguments, such as the invasion of privacy and the unethical methods used by the press to obtain information. They emphasize that the debate is about the right to form an opinion once information is public, not about endorsing intrusive press practices. The speaker concludes by discussing the impracticality of drawing a clear line between private and public matters, suggesting that it is unrealistic to expect people not to judge others based on their private lives once they become public knowledge.

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πŸ“£ Concluding Remarks on the Right to Form Opinions

In the concluding paragraph, the speaker summarizes the argument for the proposition, emphasizing that the right to judge the private lives of public figures does not necessitate support for the press's invasive methods or the belief that celebrities should forfeit their privacy. The speaker asserts that the crux of the debate is the individual's right to form an opinion on public figures' private lives once that information is made public. They argue that voting for the proposition does not imply a disregard for privacy but an acknowledgment of the individual's autonomy in forming personal judgments based on available information.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Privacy

Privacy refers to the state or condition of limited access to a person's personal information, relationships, and activities. In the context of the video, it is a central theme as the debate revolves around the public's right to judge the private lives of public figures. The script discusses the importance of privacy for public figures and the potential consequences when their private lives become public knowledge, as illustrated by the reference to the Profumo affair.

πŸ’‘Public Figures

Public figures are individuals who have achieved fame, prominence, or notoriety within a society. The script defines public figures and delves into the debate about whether the public has the right to judge the private lives of these individuals. The discussion is particularly relevant when considering the impact of their private actions on their public role and the public's perception of them.

πŸ’‘Debate

A debate is a formal discussion on a particular topic, often with opposing arguments. The video script outlines a debate on the right to judge the private lives of public figures. The debate is structured with opening statements, arguments from both sides, and a focus on the principle of whether the public has this right, irrespective of the methods used to uncover private information.

πŸ’‘Opposition

In the context of the video, the opposition refers to the side arguing against the motion that the public has a right to judge the private lives of public figures. The script introduces the speakers for the opposition, suggesting that their arguments may involve discussing the ethics of press intrusion and the importance of privacy.

πŸ’‘Judge

To judge means to form an opinion or conclusion about something or someone. The script emphasizes the right of individuals to judge the private lives of public figures when such information becomes public. The debate is about the principle of judgment, not the methods used to obtain the information or the public's actions based on that judgment.

πŸ’‘Ethical

Ethical pertains to moral principles that govern or inform a person's behavior or the conducting of an activity. The script mentions the ethical considerations of how the press and media obtain and report on the private lives of public figures, contrasting the unethical methods with the public's right to form opinions based on the information.

πŸ’‘Reputation

Reputation is the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something. The script discusses how the revelation of a public figure's private life can affect their reputation, using the Profumo affair as an example where the public's judgment of the private actions led to a loss of trust in the government.

πŸ’‘Credibility

Credibility refers to the quality of being trusted or believed. In the video, the speaker argues that the public's judgment of a public figure's private life can impact their credibility, especially when it comes to their ability to perform their public role effectively.

πŸ’‘Opinion

An opinion is a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on facts or knowledge of the subject. The script argues that having an opinion about the private lives of public figures is a fundamental human right, even if one disapproves of the methods used to obtain the information.

πŸ’‘Human Right

A human right is a right inherent to all human beings, regardless of who they are or where they come from. The script mentions privacy as a human right but also discusses the conflict between the right to privacy and the right to form an opinion about public figures' private lives when that information is made public.

πŸ’‘Principle

A principle is a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior. The debate in the video is framed around the principle of whether the public has the right to judge the private lives of public figures, independent of the circumstances under which the information is revealed.

Highlights

The debate is about the right to judge the private lives of public figures, not about the ethics of how information is obtained.

Public figures have a right to privacy, but this does not negate the public's right to form judgments based on information that becomes public.

The motion is not advocating for the invasion of privacy but for the right to have an opinion when private information is revealed.

The importance of judging private lives is exemplified by historical events like the Profumo affair, which impacted public trust and government credibility.

Judging private lives can be crucial when it affects the public role or decisions of public figures.

The debate acknowledges the need for public figures to maintain some level of privacy despite their public life.

The opposition may argue against press intrusion and unethical methods of obtaining information, but this is not the focus of the debate.

Being against unethical methods of obtaining information does not mean one cannot judge the information once it is public.

The debate is about the individual's right to form an opinion, not about sharing or acting on that opinion.

The motion implies that privacy has already been infringed upon, suggesting that this should not prevent the exercise of the right to judge.

The practical difficulty of drawing a clear line between what is private and public in the lives of public figures.

The impossibility of categorizing every aspect of a public figure's life into public and private sections for judgment purposes.

Voting for the proposition does not require support for unethical press methods or a belief in the public's right to know about all aspects of a public figure's private life.

The crux of the debate is the individual's right to have an opinion on publicized private details of public figures.

The debate challenges the notion that privacy can be a blanket right that prevents judgment of public figures when their private lives become known.

The importance of recognizing the human right to have an opinion, even if it is formed in response to private information about public figures.

Transcripts

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but regardless of whether you think the

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information about celebrities private

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lives ought to be revealed it does not

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prevent you and should not prevent you

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from being prepared and insisting on the

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right to judge such information should

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you come to learn of

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it and with that I open the debate uh

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this house believes we have a right to

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judge the private lives of public

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figures thank you madam president for

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giving me the honor of speaking in this

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debate and thank you as well to you and

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the rest of the officers for what has

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been a brilliant

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term tonight's motion perhaps more than

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most others debated in this chamber

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requires an extremely careful analysis

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of the question itself before delving

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into any specific arguments in fact it

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may be easier if I first of all make

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clear what it is we are not

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debating we are not debating whether

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this house believes public figures don't

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have a right to privacy few would be

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foolish enough to propose such a motion

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we are not debating whether we have a

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right to know about the private lives of

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public figures and we're also not

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debating whether we have a right to

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judge the private lives of all public

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figures all the time no tonight we are

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specifically considering the question of

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whether we have a right to judge the

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private lives of public figures as a

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matter of principle in and of itself the

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proposition is not suggesting that we

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all ought to go around with it being our

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mission to uncover as many Secrets as

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possible about every single person who

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could conceivably be a public figure

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instead we're simply arguing that if

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information about the private lives of

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public figures does make its way into

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the public domain which is what has been

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implied by the question then regardless

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of your opinions on the way which you

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might have done so you as an

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individual have a right to make a

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judgment on the information that you're

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presented with it is fundamentally an

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argument about your right to have an

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opinion but before I delve into the

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reasons why all of you sitting here

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tonight should be allowed to have an

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opinion it falls upon me to introduce

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the esteemed speakers on the opposition

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this evening opening the case for the

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other side will be Chris Collins a

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fourth year classic student at Corpus

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Christie college and our esteemed

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secretary here at the Oxford Union Chris

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has worked exceptionally hard this time

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to put on some fantastic socials

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including the brilliant Casino Royal

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ball which I'm sure you'd all agree have

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been very enjoyable now I'm sure he'll

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give an excellent speech for side

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opposition tonight no doubt focusing on

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aspects such as elusive secret tactics

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attempts to disparage the reputation of

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others and even potential hacking and

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then when he gets part of his election

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campaign strategy I can't wait to hear

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what he has to say about privacy

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speaking second is the right honorable

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Lord folks KC an English Barrister and

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sitting Peer who is currently the

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chairman of ipso the independent press

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standards organization Lord folks was

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educated at Jesus College where he

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remains an honorary fellow so it's a

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pleasure to welcome him back to Oxford

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tonight although he now sits as a

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crossbencher in the House of Lords he

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was previously a conservative peer and

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indeed a member of the government within

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the justice department until he resigned

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from his position in 2016 out of protest

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when a certain Liz truss was appointed

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as the new secretary of state for

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justice given the career path that has

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since followed for her he clearly has an

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excellent judge of character which I do

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find somewhat ironic considering that's

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exactly what he's telling our members

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not to Aspire to

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tonight finally we have Sharon GAA a

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social media influencer and former love

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violent contestant in 2021 beyond that

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Sharon is also an ambassador for the

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domestic abuse charity Refuge as as she

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set up her own organization girls know

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politics to encourage young women to

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participate in politics and as even an

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ex civil servant having worked across

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multiple government departments

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including the Department of Health in

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the height of the co pandemic Sharon is

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therefore very well placed to speak in

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this debate having seen firsthand what

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it's like when private relationships not

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only become public knowledge but are

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televised for the world to see before

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being followed by a dramatic recoupling

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but I'll let her talk more about what it

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was like having to work with Matt

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hanock regardless these are your

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speakers Madam president and they are

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most

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[Applause]

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welcome so a couple of definitions

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firstly private life

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the Orford dictionary defines private

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life to be a person's personal

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relationships interests and activities

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as distinct from their public or

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professional life a public figure

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meanwhile is somebody who has achieved

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Fame prominence or notoriety within a

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society it's not as some people's social

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media presence might have you believe

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merely a case of putting the label in

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your Instagram bio with those

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definitions in mind I want to begin with

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my first of three arguments put simply

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it is that what the motion is actually

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saying is that if we happen to become

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aware of say a senior politician's

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extramarital affair with a 19-year-old

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woman in the mid1 1960s we're entitled

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to have an opinion on this and to make a

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judgment on it helpfully enough such an

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example does indeed exist with the

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perfumo affair giving us one of the most

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famous examples of the private life of a

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public figure becoming widely shared

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knowledge in that incident which

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critically reduced The credibility and

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integrity not only of John prumo but

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also the wider government at the time

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the public rightfully made a judgment

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that they could not trust such a group

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of people to be in charge of the country

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and therefore less than two years later

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they voted them out it's this sort of

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example which shows how vital it is that

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we do indeed judge private lives when

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such information is relevant to the

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public facing role that someone has it

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can and should have a genuine effect on

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the way we view those in the public eye

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especially those who are involved in

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decisions which will directly affect us

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in fact I assert that anybody who would

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refuse to make a judgment on someone's

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character off the basis of such

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information which damages their

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credibility ought to be considered a

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concern themselves with their insistance

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on following some moral code regarding

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privacy blinding them to potentially

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critical information about other

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people secondly and as I alluded to at

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the beginning of my speech it's

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absolutely vital this house realizes

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what precisely is being asked for them

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of course it would be ludicrous to

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suggest that celebrities especially

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those who Rose to fame without any

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initial ambition of doing so should

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suddenly be expected to withdraw their

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right to privacy once they reach a

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certain level of stardom far from it in

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fact if anything given so much of the

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rest of their life is spent in full

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public view they more than anyone need

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to spend part of their time out of the

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Limelight I expect too that the

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opposition will attempt to appeal to

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your sympathies asking how you would

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feel if your private lives were known to

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the masses and I won't argue with them

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on that point I fully recognize that

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there are parts of mine and I'm sure

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many other people's lives they would

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much rather remain private but

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regardless of whether you think the

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information about celebrities private

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lives ought to be revealed it does not

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prevent you and should not prevent you

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from being prepared and insisting on the

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right to judge such information should

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you come to learn of it arguments about

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press intrusion phone hacking and many

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other inappropriate methods of gathering

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stories will no doubt be pointed to as

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evidence that public figures should not

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be subject to such measures but this is

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not what the debate is about yes of

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course everyone should rightly expect

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that their private lives are not

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regularly intruded on but it's frankly

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absurd to suggest that people should

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expect others not to judge them for what

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they do or do not

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do go on your accep your side encourage

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all the work of the daily male and the

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son encourage the intrusions and the

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phone hackings and the obsession and the

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pop and follows around children and

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people and rles through their trashes so

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my point is you can be totally against

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all the horrible press methods that the

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likes of the daily male might use to get

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such stories and use the paparazzi and

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all this but the debate is about the

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right to judge it and to suggest you

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can't judge something what you could you

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can be totally against the fact that

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these these Outlets use such awful

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methods but you I find it very very

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difficult to suggest you can be against

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something and your own opinion on these

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stories once they've come to

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light because it's not only basic human

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instinct to have an opinion it's a human

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right and to those who might suggest

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that privacy is also a human right I

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make the point that the worning of the

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motion implies that the right to privacy

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has already been infringed upon that

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should then prevent us from upholding

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another right though as the famous

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saying goes two wrongs don't make a

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right finally I want to end with a

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practical point and that is how if you

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do vote for side opposition tonight it's

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virtually impossible to actually

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establish where the line is between

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private and public matters some of you

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will remember that I did of course offer

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you a definition earlier on and I'll

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remind you of it once more private life

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is a person's personal relationships

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interests and activities as distinct

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from their public or professional life

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but let's just consider that last aspect

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for a moment as distinct from their

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public or professional life how exactly

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are we supposed to draw that line some

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things may seem obviously private at

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first glance the medical records of a

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person say but even that could

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conceivably be argued to be important

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information if it refers to for example

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a politician because it may affect how

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you choose to vote just look at the

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situation with the two main candidates

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in the US presidential race at the

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moment the point is even if in theory it

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sounds like a moral idea deal to be a

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perfect person and not to judge people's

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private lives it's actual implementation

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it's simply impossible to put into

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practice there is no neat way of

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categorizing every aspect of one's life

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into public and private sections so

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attempting to set out which specific

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parts we are and are not allowed to make

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judgments on it's just

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unrealistic and so to sum up to vote

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proposition tonight you do not have to

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believe that celebrities should not be

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entitled to privacy you do not have to

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support the at times unethical immoral

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and shameful methods that the Press uses

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to get such stories about people's

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private lives you don't even have to

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believe that we should ever know about a

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public figure's private life all you

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have to believe is that should it come

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about that details of someone's private

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life are publicized to the general

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public then you as an individual with

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your own thoughts your own values and

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your own beliefs are entitled to make a

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judgment on them and their actions to

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put it simply you just need to believe

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that you're allowed to have an opinion

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not one that you share with others or

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even act on as a result just one that

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you form in your own mind by yourself in

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private thank you very

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much

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