Intel chips can’t possibly be this bad… 100% crash rate?
Summary
TLDRIntel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs, known as Raptor Lake, are facing significant stability issues, leading to frequent crashes and silicon degradation. Despite Intel's efforts to address the problem through BIOS updates and underclocking, the root cause remains unclear. Gamers and developers are increasingly frustrated, with some calling for a recall and refund of these chips.
Takeaways
- 💥 Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs, known as Raptor Lake, have been reported to have significant stability issues.
- 🔍 The most crucial specification when choosing a CPU is often overlooked: the failure rate.
- 🎮 Gaming issues with DirectX12 and Handbrake initially led to frequent crashes, initially blamed on Nvidia drivers but later traced back to Intel's CPUs.
- 🚀 High clock rates and power usage in these CPUs were found to potentially cause silicon degradation and instability.
- 🛠️ A fix suggested was to underclock the CPUs at a lower voltage, leading to an estimated 9% performance loss.
- 📈 A leaked Intel document pointed to a potential issue with the microcode algorithm related to the ETB feature, though Intel denied it was the root cause.
- 🐉 Game developers, such as those from Alderon, have reported 100% failure rates with these chips, affecting end users, game servers, and developers.
- 📊 Analysis by Warframe showed that Raptor Lake chips are specifically causing problems, unlike other chips.
- 📈 Data from YouTuber Level One Text's analysis of crash telemetry data from data centers confirmed a significant stability problem with these chips.
- 🤔 Intel acknowledged the issues and stated they are working on solutions, though they admitted the investigation is challenging.
Q & A
What is the most important specification to consider when buying a CPU?
-The most important specification to consider when buying a CPU is not the clock speed, number of cores or threads, transistor count, or cache size, but the failure rate. This is often overlooked because modern CPUs are engineered with high precision and rarely fail due to manufacturing defects.
What is the alleged issue with Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs?
-Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs, also known as Raptor Lake, have been reported to have a high failure rate in certain contexts. This issue has been building up over the last six months, and it appears that even Intel does not fully understand the cause.
What was the initial reaction to the frequent crashes experienced by PC gamers using DirectX12 and Handbreak?
-Initially, the blame for the frequent crashes was placed on Nvidia GeForce Graphics drivers. However, Nvidia later refuted this claim and blamed Intel for GPU VRAM issues, advising users to contact Intel support.
What was the suggested fix for the instability issues in Intel CPUs?
-The main fix suggested for the instability issues was to underclock the CPUs at a lower voltage. Motherboard manufacturers began rolling out BIOS updates with an Intel Baseline profile to provide these underclock settings, which resulted in an estimated 9% performance loss.
What did a leaked internal document from Intel suggest as the root cause of the instability?
-A leaked internal document from Intel suggested that the root cause of the instability was an incorrect value in the microcode algorithm associated with the ETB (Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost) feature. However, Intel denied this was the root cause but admitted it could be a contributing factor.
What did Alderon, the developer of an MMO game, allege about Intel's CPUs?
-Alderon alleged that 100% of the time, these Intel chips will fail. They fail for end users, on game servers, and for developers. They also criticized Intel for providing misleading error messages about running out of video driver memory, even when sufficient memory is available.
What did the analysis by Warframe reveal about the stability of Intel's Raptor Lake chips?
-The analysis by Warframe revealed that only the Raptor Lake chips were causing problems, indicating a significant stability issue with these specific Intel chips.
What did YouTuber Level One Text find in his analysis of crash telemetry data from data centers?
-Level One Text found that there is indeed a huge stability problem with Intel's Raptor Lake chips, based on his analysis of crash telemetry data from data centers.
What is Intel's response to these allegations and issues?
-Intel issued a statement reassuring users that they are working on the issue, although they admitted that the investigation is not easy, which could be interpreted as them not having a clear understanding of what is causing the problems.
What alternative is suggested for those considering building a new gaming rig?
-The script suggests considering an AMD processor for those building a new gaming rig, due to the reported issues with Intel's Raptor Lake chips.
Outlines
💥 Intel CPU Failure Rates: A Ticking Time Bomb?
This paragraph discusses the potential instability and high failure rates of Intel's 13th and 14th generation CPUs, known as Raptor Lake. The script highlights that the most crucial specification when purchasing a CPU is its failure rate, which is often overlooked. Intel's chips are facing significant issues, with reports suggesting a 100% failure rate in certain contexts. The video aims to explore these problems and determine if it's time for consumers to be concerned. Intel's history in the CPU market and the recent developments with their latest chips are also briefly mentioned.
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Keywords
💡Cutting Edge Gaming Rig
💡Intel Inside
💡Failure Rate
💡Raptor Lake
💡DirectX12
💡Nvidia GeForce Graphics Drivers
💡Silicon Degradation
💡Underclocking
💡ETB Feature
💡Game Servers
💡AMD Processor
Highlights
Intel Inside sticker may indicate a potential failure rate issue in some gaming rigs.
The most crucial CPU specification is its failure rate, often overlooked due to modern CPUs' reliability.
Intel's 13th and 14th generation chips, known as Raptor Lake, are reported to have a 100% failure rate in certain conditions.
The chip instability issue was initially misdiagnosed as a problem with Nvidia GeForce Graphics drivers.
High clock rates and power usage in Raptor Lake chips could lead to silicon degradation and instability.
A temporary fix involved underclocking CPUs at lower voltages, resulting in a performance loss of approximately 9%.
Intel's internal document leak suggested a potential root cause related to the ETB feature's microcode algorithm.
Intel denied the leaked cause but acknowledged it could be a contributing factor to instability.
Game developers like Alderon have reported 100% failure rates with Intel chips, affecting game servers and developers.
Companies like Epic Games and RAD Game Tools have also highlighted the issues with Intel's Raptor Lake chips.
An analysis by Warframe demonstrated that only Raptor Lake chips are causing problems, as shown in a pie chart.
YouTuber Level One Text's analysis of crash telemetry data confirms a significant stability issue with Intel chips.
Intel has acknowledged the problem and reassured that they are working on a solution, despite the investigation's complexity.
The video suggests considering AMD processors for new builds due to the current issues with Intel chips.
The video concludes by emphasizing the severity of the issue and the need for a resolution from Intel.
Transcripts
I've got some bad news if your Cutting
Edge gaming rig has an Intel Inside
sticker on it it might actually have a
ticking Time Bomb inside when we go CPU
shopping the most important spec is not
the clock speed it's not the number of
cores or threads it's not the transistor
count and not the cash size the most
important thing is actually something we
fail to think about the failure rate we
don't think about this because modern
CPUs rarely fail due to manufacturing
defects they're engineered with such a
high degree of precision that it makes
rocket surgeons look like morons no
matter how good your CPU specs are it's
all completely pointless if the chip is
unstable while Intel's 13th and 14th gen
chips can allegedly achieve an
impressive 100% failure rate in certain
contexts in today's video we'll look at
the overflowing stack of problems facing
Intel chips and find out if it's time to
hit panic mode it is July 15 2024 and
you're watching the code report for
decades Intel has dominated the CPU chip
Market the company was founded in 1968
and gave us the first Dynamic Ram chip
in 1970 then released the 4004 in 1971
which was as the first commercial
microprocessor that later evolved into
the x86 architecture and the company has
been printing money ever since but the
gravy train on biscuit Wheels is
starting to derail a big problem with
the 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs also
known as Raptor lake has been building
up over the last 6 months and it appears
nobody knows exactly what the hell is
going on not even Intel itself the first
issues appeared back in February when PC
Gamers playing games with direct X12 and
handbreak started to experience frequent
crashes initially the blame was played
placed on Nvidia GeForce Graphics
drivers but in April Nvidia was like Nao
and blamed Intel for GPU vram issues and
told users to contact Intel support then
rad games which Powers compression in
Unreal Engine discovered that high
default clock rates and power usage
could be leading to Silicon degradation
and instability eventually the main fix
for this issue was to underclock these
CPUs at a lower voltage shortly after
motherboard manufacturers began rolling
out bios updates with an Intel Baseline
profile to provide these weak-ass
underclock settings resulting in an
estimated 9% performance loss although
Intel itself was not recommending these
settings directly a couple months later
a leaked internal document from Intel is
said the root cause of instability was
an incorrect value in the micr code
algorithm associated with the ETB
feature or enhance thermal velocity
boost however after the leak Intel
denied that this was the root cause but
they did admit that it could be a
contributing factor in any case a bunch
of game devs like alderon which makes an
MMO that lets you live out your dream of
being a dinosaur relas a bombshell post
alleging that 100% of the time these
chips will fail every time they fail for
end users they fail on Game servers they
fail for developers and worst of all
they provide misleading error messages
about running out of video driver memory
even when they have sufficient memory
and their prescribed remedy is to have
Intel recall these CPUs and refund
consumers that's pretty harsh and it's
kind of ironic that these dinosaur guys
hate Raptor like chips but companies
like epic games and rad game tools have
also highlighted these issues and an
analysis done by Warframe produced this
this damning pie chart that showed how
it's only the Raptor likee chips that
are causing problems to make matters
even worse YouTuber level one text
analyzed a bunch of Crash Telemetry data
from data centers and found that yes
indeed there is a huge stability problem
with these chips I don't want to spoil
the details so check out his video for a
full breakdown but obviously we've got a
big problem here I've got an Intel chip
in my machine thank God it's a 12th gen
but I'm going to build a new rig later
this year and it's hard to imagine not
using an AMD processor at this point
luckily though Intel put out a statement
that reassured us in tell Bros that
they're working on it although the
investigation is not easy which as
corporate speak for we have no idea what
the hell is going on and really I can't
blame them because I don't think I could
do a better job making a bunch of
electrons dance around on a rock this
has been the code report thanks for
watching and I will see you in the next
one
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