Range, efficiency, charging comparison: Standard Range LFP v pre Heat Pump Long Range Tesla Model 3

RSymons RSEV
21 Jan 202414:34

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Richard compares the efficiency and real-world range of two Tesla Model 3s: a 2019 long-range version and a 2022 standard range with a heat pump and LFP battery. They test both cars in cold, damp UK weather to see if the newer standard range can match the long-range model's performance. The test includes a 170-mile journey and a charging speed comparison, revealing the surprising efficiency of the standard range car despite its smaller battery.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿš— The video compares the real-world range difference between a pre-heat pump Tesla Model 3 Long Range and a post-2021 heat pump Standard Range.
  • ๐Ÿ”‹ The Long Range model has a dual motor, bigger battery, and 4-wheel drive, while the Standard Range model is noted for its efficiency with a 60 kWh LFP battery.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ The test involves charging the cars to their recommended daily limits (90% for the Long Range and 100% for the Standard Range) and then driving them in cold, damp weather to assess efficiency.
  • ๐ŸŒก๏ธ The video highlights the impact of cold weather on the cars' efficiency and battery conditioning, with the Standard Range model showing better efficiency despite the weather conditions.
  • โšก The charging process is also compared, with the Standard Range model charging slightly quicker due to its smaller battery size, despite starting with a lower state of charge.
  • ๐Ÿ›ฃ๏ธ The journey covered is approximately 170 miles, and the cars' efficiency is measured throughout the trip, with the Standard Range model outperforming the Long Range model in this test.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ Preconditioning of the battery is used to warm it up for optimal performance, with the Long Range model using more energy for this process during the journey.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š The video provides detailed efficiency data, showing that the Standard Range model has a significantly lower energy consumption per mile compared to the Long Range model.
  • ๐Ÿšง The test acknowledges that the Long Range model's 19-inch Sport Wheels may have reduced its efficiency compared to the 18-inch Aero Wheels on the Standard Range model.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The video also notes an oversight where Sentry Mode was left on in one of the cars overnight, resulting in a 6% battery loss, but this is accounted for in the efficiency calculations.
  • ๐Ÿ In conclusion, the video finds that the Standard Range model is more efficient and can travel just as far for the same battery percentage, despite having a slower recharging speed.

Q & A

  • What is the main purpose of the video?

    -The main purpose of the video is to compare the real-world range and efficiency differences between a Tesla Model 3 Long Range and a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range with a heat pump and LFP battery.

  • What are the key differences between the two Tesla Model 3s being compared in the video?

    -The key differences include the presence of a heat pump and LFP battery in the Standard Range model, the Long Range model having a dual motor, a larger battery, and 4-wheel drive capabilities.

  • What is the significance of the heat pump and LFP battery in the newer Tesla Model 3s?

    -The heat pump and LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery are significant as they contribute to increased efficiency and potentially longer range in the newer Tesla Model 3s.

  • What was the plan for testing the efficiency of the two Tesla Model 3s?

    -The plan was to charge both cars to their recommended daily charge limits, drive them in cold and damp weather conditions, and compare their efficiency over a journey of approximately 170 miles.

  • Why was preconditioning turned off during part of the journey?

    -Preconditioning was turned off to prevent the use of additional battery power for the entire journey, allowing for a more accurate comparison of the cars' efficiency without the extra energy consumption from preconditioning.

  • What was the impact of Sentry mode on the battery percentage overnight?

    -The Sentry mode was left on by mistake, causing a 6% loss in battery percentage overnight due to the car's systems being active.

  • How did the weather conditions affect the efficiency of the Tesla Model 3s during the test?

    -The cold, damp, and wet weather conditions required increased climate control activity, which cost 0.9% of the trip's energy, affecting the overall efficiency of both cars.

  • What was the difference in efficiency between the two Tesla Model 3s after the test?

    -The Standard Range Tesla Model 3 showed better efficiency with 314 W hours per mile compared to the Long Range model's 340 W hours per mile.

  • How did the charging speeds of the two Tesla Model 3s compare after the test?

    -Although the Long Range model started charging at a higher rate, the Standard Range model charged quicker overall due to its smaller battery size and less energy consumption.

  • What additional insights are provided about the Tesla Model 3s in the video?

    -The video provides insights into the cars' efficiency in real-world conditions, the impact of different features like the heat pump and Sentry mode, and the comparison of charging speeds and efficiencies between the two models.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ”‹ Tesla Model 3 Range Test Introduction

In this video, Richard introduces a comparative test between two Tesla Model 3s: a pre-heat pump long-range model and a post-2021 standard range with a heat pump and LFP battery. The goal is to determine the real-world range difference between the two models, especially considering the efficiency improvements in the newer standard range. Richard explains the test plan, which includes charging the cars to their recommended limits, driving them in cold and wet weather, and comparing their efficiency over a 170-mile journey. He also mentions that the long-range model has a dual motor, larger battery, and 4-wheel drive, while the standard range model is more efficient with its 60 kWh LFP battery. The actual test will be conducted by Gins and Serge, with the results to be shared in the following video.

05:01

๐Ÿšฆ Real-World Efficiency Comparison of Tesla Model 3s

This paragraph details the ongoing efficiency comparison test between the Tesla Model 3 long-range and standard range cars. The narrator discusses the cars' preconditioning, which uses additional energy and affects efficiency. The test involves driving 50 miles and checking the battery percentage and efficiency of both cars. The standard range car, driven by the narrator, shows better efficiency with 71% battery left and an average of 250 Wh/mile, compared to the long-range car with 64% battery left and an efficiency of 379 Wh/mile. The narrator also notes the impact of cold weather on energy consumption, with the car's systems using extra power for climate control, tire drag, and battery conditioning. The test continues with the preconditioning turned on and off at different points to see its effect on efficiency and range.

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๐Ÿ”Œ Charging Speed and Efficiency Conclusion

The final paragraph wraps up the Tesla Model 3 range and efficiency test. After completing the journey, the narrator compares the efficiency and charging speeds of both cars. The standard range car, despite having a smaller battery, charges quicker due to less energy consumption. The long-range car, with its larger battery and 19-inch sport wheels, has lower efficiency but still offers benefits like faster speed and acceleration boost. The narrator emphasizes the impressive efficiency of the standard range model and its ability to travel the same distance as the long-range model for the same battery percentage. The video concludes with a discussion about the advantages of the long-range model and a teaser for the next video, which will feature a Tesla Model 3 Performance with over 100,000 miles on its odometer.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กTesla Model 3

The Tesla Model 3 is an all-electric vehicle produced by Tesla, Inc. It is central to the video's theme as the script discusses two different variants of this model. The video aims to compare the performance and efficiency of a Tesla Model 3 Long Range with a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range, particularly focusing on their real-world range and efficiency differences.

๐Ÿ’กUsed Car Market

The used car market refers to the secondary market for vehicles that have been previously owned. In the context of the video, it is where the two Tesla Model 3s being compared are sourced from, with the script noting that prices for these used Teslas can vary, even within the same model range.

๐Ÿ’กLong Range

In the context of electric vehicles, 'Long Range' typically denotes a variant of the vehicle with a larger battery capacity, offering greater driving range on a single charge. The video script contrasts the 'Long Range' variant of the Tesla Model 3 with the 'Standard Range' variant, highlighting differences in battery size, performance, and efficiency.

๐Ÿ’กStandard Range

The 'Standard Range' is another variant of the Tesla Model 3, which comes with a smaller battery capacity compared to the 'Long Range' variant. The script discusses the efficiency of this variant, suggesting it may offer competitive real-world range despite having a smaller battery.

๐Ÿ’กHeat Pump

A heat pump is a device that transfers heat from one location to another, typically used in vehicles for climate control. The script mentions that the later Tesla Model 3s, including the Standard Range variant discussed, are equipped with a heat pump, which can improve energy efficiency, especially in cold weather conditions.

๐Ÿ’กLFP Battery

LFP stands for Lithium Iron Phosphate, which is a type of battery chemistry used in electric vehicles. The script specifies that the later Tesla Model 3s have an LFP battery, known for its stability and longevity, and this is part of the comparison between the two car variants.

๐Ÿ’กReal World Range

Real world range refers to the actual distance a vehicle can travel on a single charge in everyday driving conditions, as opposed to the theoretical range calculated under ideal conditions. The video aims to determine the real world range difference between the preheat pump Long Range and the heat pump Standard Range Tesla Model 3s.

๐Ÿ’กEfficiency

In the context of the video, efficiency refers to how effectively the electric vehicles use their battery power to travel a certain distance. The script discusses the efficiency of both the Long Range and Standard Range Tesla Model 3s, particularly in cold and wet weather conditions, to determine which variant offers better performance.

๐Ÿ’กPreconditioning

Preconditioning is the process of warming up the battery and cabin of an electric vehicle before driving to optimize performance and comfort. The script describes how both Tesla Model 3s are preconditioning, which affects the energy usage and is a factor in assessing the vehicles' efficiency.

๐Ÿ’กSentry Mode

Sentry Mode is a security feature in Tesla vehicles that uses the car's cameras to monitor and record any activity around the car. The script mentions that one of the cars had Sentry Mode on, which inadvertently drained the battery overnight, affecting the starting battery percentage for the efficiency test.

๐Ÿ’กCharging Speed

Charging speed refers to how quickly an electric vehicle can recharge its battery. The script compares the charging speeds of the two Tesla Model 3 variants, noting that despite the Long Range variant having a larger battery, the Standard Range variant, with its smaller battery, can charge a similar number of miles in the same amount of time.

Highlights

Comparison of two Tesla Model 3s: Long Range vs. Standard Range with heat pump and LFP battery.

Used car market prices for Tesla Model 3s in the mid to upper 20s.

Real-world range test between preheat pump Long Range and heat pump Standard Range Tesla Model 3s.

Long Range model features dual motor, bigger battery, and 4-wheel drive.

Post-2021 Standard Range models are noted for their efficiency with a 60 kWh LFP battery.

Daily recommended charging limit of 90% for the Long Range and 100% for the Standard Range.

Weather conditions impact on efficiency: cold, damp, and wet.

Sentry mode left on accidentally, resulting in a 6% battery loss overnight.

Efficiency comparison during a 170-mile journey.

Preconditioning battery for optimal temperature during the drive.

Difference in efficiency between the two models: 250 Wh/mile for Standard Range vs. 379 Wh/mile for Long Range.

Charging speed comparison: Standard Range charges quicker due to smaller battery size.

Final efficiency data for both models after the journey.

Discussion on the practicality of Long Range vs. Standard Range for used car buyers.

The impact of 19-inch Sport Wheels on the Long Range model's efficiency.

Upcoming video on a Tesla Model 3 Performance with over 100,000 miles.

Transcripts

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Hello everybody welcome my name is

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Richard and in this video I want to

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compare two Tesla Model 3s so on the

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used car market obviously prices vary

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but now even in the mid 20s and upper

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20s you see Tesla Model 3 long ranges

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like this one here and you see the later

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standard ranges so this when I say later

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I mean the post 2021 the ones with a

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heat pump and lfp battery and I want to

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see what the real world range difference

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is between the two so a preheat pump

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long range and a heat pump standard

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range is there going to be that much

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difference between them now obviously

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the long range is dual motor it does

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have a bigger battery is faster as well

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and it's 4-wheel drive but these later

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ones are really efficient with a 60 K

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lfp battery in this one you charge it to

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100% every day if you want to and

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they're so efficient that I don't think

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the real world range is too far off so

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in this video we're going to do a test

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and find out now I'm not available

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tomorrow but Gins behind the camera

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there and our colleague Serge you in

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know both different videos before are

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going to be taking these cars down to

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colal to do a comparison in the real

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world So the plan is uh we're actually

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going to charge these cars up now this

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one has a a daily recommended charging

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limit 90% so we charge it at 90% 100%

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charge limit on this one uh which is

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recommended daily so this would be 100%

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charge they're going to leave here at

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those states of charge they're going to

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be going home tonight and tomorrow

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morning from a cold start and we've got

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some terrible weather at the moment it's

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not especially freezing but it's cold

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and damp and wet and horrible uh as

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anyone in the UK in the beginning of

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January will know and see how their

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efficiency Compares as they drive down

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on a journey kind of 170 odd miles

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tomorrow how much of the battery

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percentage will they use and what will

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their efficiency be that's what we're

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going to find out so I'll leave you from

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here that's the introduction it's going

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to be over to ginson searge to let you

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know some of the details how they get on

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tomorrow and the difference between the

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2022 standard range 60 K hour lfp and

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the 20 19 model 3 long range one thing I

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will just highlight before I leave is

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that our model 3 this is gray it's one

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of our cars been a l of videos um he's

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on a 19-in sport wheel so they're

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probably going to be a little bit less

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efficient than the 18-in arrows on this

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car so we're going to make a little bit

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of an allowance for Graham for that but

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earli car without the the heat pump from

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a cold start tomorrow let's see exactly

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what the efficiency difference is and

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how much difference there is in the

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worldwood range right here we go um it's

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7:36 in the morning me and s s just

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there so we just entered the first stop

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which is going to be supercharger at

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lifting so my car thinks we can drive

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there with 29% and what about you Serge

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18% so he's in Long Range I'm in a

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standard range and the cars are actually

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saying they're preconditioning now both

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of them mine and surges so we're going

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to let them uh do whatever they want to

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do and see how it pans out 2 hours 45

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minutes 123 mil to go and serge just

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told me there's going to be storm coming

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up our way storm hang cool off we go

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[Music]

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and just a quick thing forgot to say I'm

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going to start at 89% of battery from

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the location we just met and ser is

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going to start at 82 so while we're

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stuck in the traffic 8:00 in the morning

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perfect we were just looking at the map

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and seeing what the car is doing um

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regarding just precond conditioning and

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navigation of supercharger as I said

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earlier video we're navigating to lift

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and supercharger and my car thought we

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going to ride over 29 % and my car

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started preconditioning straight away

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and it was doing so for for the journey

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until now which is about 15 20 minutes

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and I'm like well that's bit weird like

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it's 2 and a half hour journey and it's

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already preconditioning using low

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battery and I went to this a new energy

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screen and the car told me already use

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2.1 miles from the trip extra to

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precondition the battery and we'll do so

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throughout the whole journey so what are

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we going to do now is we're going to

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switch off preconditioning the the total

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Journey we have to do now until

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supercharge is 120 Mi so we're going to

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switch off preconditioning so we're

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navigating there for 60 m without

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preconditioning and then rest of the 60

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Mi we're going to turn the pre

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conditioning on so the battery can warm

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up as much as it needs to so this is

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what we can to do now a small thing

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forgot to say regarding the battery

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percentages is that we both took these

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cars home and we supposed to switch off

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the Sentry mode off and both of the cars

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so s Sentry mode was off and I thought

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my Sentry mode was off as well because I

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didn't see the red light the red eye

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thing whatever that's recording and I

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was like cool that's off and when I got

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this in a car this morning I was like oh

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no it's on so unfortunately I forgot to

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switch it off well I thought it switched

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off but it wasn't so therefore the car

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lost 6% of the battery overnight um

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which is not brilliant uh but it's not

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going to really change anything for us

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because we're measuring efficiency

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rather than the used battery percentage

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and we we can compensate that adding

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plus 6% to the battery and when we get

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there so it's fine but the main thing

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efficiency data will still be

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[Music]

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correct right so we both have covered 50

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miles so let's check in so I got 71% of

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battery left and my average is 250 W

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hours per mile and I use 13 KW hours so

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I've got

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64% um I've used 17

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KW and my efficiency is 379 W hours per

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mile right so do you hear that so he

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used 17 kilowatt hours I used 13 so

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there's a difference and his efficiency

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is much worse than mine so his car

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thinks he's going to arrive at 30% to

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our pin which is just next to the

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liftting supercharger my car thinks it's

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going to be

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40% so there's a 10% difference so we

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still have 85 miles to go uh in about 25

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mil are we going to turn on the prec

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conditioning as then just press the n

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naate to supercharg and the car will

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start pre pre conditioning if it needs

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to so and then we'll compare data with

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the pre conditioning as

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well and another thing I just went to

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the energy screen and it says here

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increased climate control activity air

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Dr Tire drag and battery conditioning

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due to cold weather cost 0.9% of this

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trip so means what the car does is

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actually still preconditioning battery

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for the drive not for the charging

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though so it's probably keeping optimal

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temperature for the battery and cuz a

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region actually came back now so I think

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it's managing the optimal temperature

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for the battery where all the regions

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available and so you have no problems

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with driving it uh but for the charging

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I think it will struggle now so we have

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4 miles left and we're going to turn

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preconditioning on so we get 61 miles

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left till supercharger uh let's do some

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data now and then we'll turn on the

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precond conditioning so let me have a

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look autop pil is working nicely so

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let's have a look so 76 M covered 18 KW

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hours used 230 W hours per mile that is

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efficient we'll put the calculations

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here um 61% battery left so let's see

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how SE doing uh I've got

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53% uh left um used 24 KW so far and the

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efficiency is

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314 W hours per

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mile so he used 24 KW hours so there's a

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6 Kow difference as always Sun ranges

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shows how efficient it is compared to

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and even though the long range is very

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efficient but this car is just in

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another level okay let's turn on the

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preconditioning for the Supercharger so

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the serer car before preconditioning

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would arrive with a or pin with 27% now

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the return on the precond conditioning

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is going to ride over with 19% minus 41

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before 29 now

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so again the battery uh sizes are

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different but mine would use a bit more

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more percent to warm up and as we think

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lfp battery needs a bit more heat anyway

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so but the moment I'm arriving with more

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battery percentage than SE so let's

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finish the journey and then compare

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efficiency so after about 43 mi into the

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joury after we switched on the prec

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conditioning pre conditioning has

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stopped so the car is preconditioned in

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my turn back on briefly before we arrive

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to just to make sure the temperature up

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up up to the standard but it looks like

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the car's prec conditioned now and yeah

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numbers have increased efficiency has

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worsen a bit uh but we'll tell numbers

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when we get there we'll compare to the

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long range behind me right so we have

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arrived let's have a look at the numbers

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so since last charge which was yesterday

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evening 1 38 Mi 36 kows used uh now the

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average is

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259 that's including pre conditioning

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you can also have a look at this graph

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so it used 4.4% for battery uh

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preconditioning and they arrive at

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28% cool let's have a look at the surg

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stats okay so 130 M covered same as me

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340 W hours per mile and as you can see

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this car is not as as efficient as the

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other one battery conditioning used much

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more than me actually 8.2% used compared

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to mine 4 something so these are the

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numbers so let's plug the cars in and

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see which charges quicker I think it's

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going to be this one and he arrived here

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with 18% I at 28% so 10% difference in

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arrival Sun R ride with 28% about 72

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miles left of range long range ride with

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18% about 50 odd Ms left in a battery

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but remember that started with 100% this

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started with 90 but I also used 6%

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overnight in tension mode they forgot to

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switch off these V4 massive and I has

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some light where is that where's some

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screens or something yeah let's have a

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look I don't think it says anything no

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it doesn't turn off it's also raining I

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think you need to jacket so we just

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plugged in both cars let's see what they

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do this is a standard range 45

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KW

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52 59 Serge what are you doing 25 all

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right so s at 255 I'm at

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126 Graham is charging always

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ridiculously fast don't know why but

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it's still rumping up let's see

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143

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144 okay it looks like this is where

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it's going to stay 143

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[Music]

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142

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[Applause]

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so in 10 minutes I recharge back to 61%

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added 19

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Kow and same time in 10 so there's been

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10 minutes and surges at

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60% and how many kilow 20 30 Kow and

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there we go so they actually took

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they're the same now both at 60% and one

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added less one added more that charges

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quicker that charges slower but smaller

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battery bigger battery so actually the

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same thing so there we go so here we go

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it just clicked 15 minutes over here I'm

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at

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73% 73% 26 K hours at it and serge is at

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71 71% and

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30 look at that that's actually charged

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quicker than Graham interesting so that

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was that that was a little interesting

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trick trip and comparison between long

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range 2019 and 2022 standard range as

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you can see standard range is much more

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efficient and it'll put all the data of

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the pro router range and efficiency on

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the table here and also interestingly

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charging speed although that car was

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charging much quicker at 250 straight

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away as you plugin rumped up to 250

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stayed there for a bit this was slowly

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rumping up to 145 is and then went down

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to 130 for stayed there for a bit and

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then slight slightly uh decreased again

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but overall actually charge quicker

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because it has a smaller battery it use

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less energy so therefore this actually

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charged a couple minutes quicker than

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the long range which is quite

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interesting as well okay that was really

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interesting I was really looking forward

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to seeing that video myself so I hope

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you have done as well um well done

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Against The Surge for filming that good

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work now I have to say from our long

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range there our car we call Graham that

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surge was driving that's about the worst

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range of efficiency we've seen from that

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car it was terrible weather that day and

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again and I will reiterate we've got the

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upgraded 19in Sport Wheels which would

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have cost it some efficiency as well now

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the efficiency of the newer long ranges

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is better 2021 cars onwards had the heat

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pumps and mein did film a day driving

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around Wales with the older long range

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and newer long range so we can show you

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the differences of efficiency on that

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video and I'll try and put a link in the

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description below but from this one what

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we've just taken away is that on used

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Market you might be comparing these two

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and actually the standard range goes

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just as far for the same battery

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percentage and actually though it has a

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slower recharging speed recharg the same

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number of miles in the same amount of

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time in fact slightly better so that was

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a really interesting aspect of that

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video I thought now what's the pointed

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by a long range well it is faster it is

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forward drive you do have that potential

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if you charge it 100% for some extra

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range and it's fine to go to 100% as

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long as you're going to use it so I

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personally would I pick a long range

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well I probably would actually because I

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like that little bit of extra turn of

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speed and you can do acceleration boost

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so it's even faster but really

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interesting comparison and amazing

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efficiency from the standard range there

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very interesting indeed so I hope you

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found that interesting useful I

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brilliant car and so we're going to do

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