Why C.S. Lewis Is as Influential as Ever

C. S. Lewis Society of California
23 Jul 201545:17

Summary

TLDR本视频剧本深入探讨了C.S.路易斯对现代世界的影响,强调了其作品的广泛传播和深远意义。剧本提到路易斯的书籍销量巨大,其《纳尼亚传奇》和《纯粹的基督教》等作品对基督教信仰的阐释,对理性与信仰的关系,以及对现代主义和自然主义的批判,展现了他对个人自由和道德真理的坚持。同时,剧本也讨论了路易斯对儿童文学的影响,以及他如何通过故事和想象力来传达深层的真理和价值观。

Takeaways

  • 📚 C.S. 路易斯的书籍影响力巨大,其作品被翻译成40多种语言,销量达数百万册。
  • 🦉 《纳尼亚传奇》系列书籍销量估计约1.5亿套,被搬上舞台、电视、广播和电影。
  • 🔢 路易斯的《纯粹的基督教》和《魔鬼家书》销量分别达到300万和200万册,年销量高达600万册。
  • 🏆 《纳尼亚传奇》在《哈利·波特》系列之前,是最具影响力的儿童书籍系列。
  • 🌏 全球有超过300个C.S. 路易斯学会,并且正在马萨诸塞州筹建以他命名的大学。
  • 🎨 路易斯展示了基督教如何激发人们的想象力和心灵,改变了他对世界和其中人们的看法。
  • 🤔 路易斯认为理性是信仰的锚,通过合理的辩护消除了人们对信仰的障碍。
  • 📖 他强调故事或叙事的重要性,认为基督教的想象力可以扩展我们对可能性的理解。
  • 🧐 路易斯指出现代精英知识分子的自负和虚伪,认为不能信任完全由随机机会进化产生的理性。
  • 🛡️ 他恢复了对人类的基督教视角,反对现代文化使人失去人性的方面。
  • 🕊️ 路易斯的转变从无神论者到虔诚的基督徒,展示了他深刻的思想转变和对基督教辩护的影响力。

Q & A

  • C.S. 路易斯的影响力在今天比约翰·F·肯尼迪更大吗?

    -是的,根据演讲者的论述,C.S. 路易斯的书籍被翻译成40多种语言,销量达到数百万册,而《纳尼亚传奇》系列更是估计售出了大约1.5亿套,这使得他的影响力在今天可能比约翰·F·肯尼迪更大。

  • 《纳尼亚传奇》系列电影的票房总收入是多少?

    -《纳尼亚传奇》系列电影的票房总收入达到了15亿美元,并且该系列电影是所有时间里票房收入最高的系列之一。

  • C.S. 路易斯的《纯粹的基督教》一书销量如何?

    -C.S. 路易斯的《纯粹的基督教》一书销量达到了300万册,显示了其深远的影响力。

  • 为什么C.S. 路易斯被认为对现代社会的基督教理解有清晰的阐述?

    -C.S. 路易斯展示了基督教如何吸引那些真诚寻求今天生活中最大问题答案的人,他认为基督教能够激发想象力,充实心灵,并改变了他看待世界和其中人们的方式。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何反驳现代知识分子的傲慢和虚伪?

    -C.S. 路易斯揭示了如果你完全是由随机机会进化的产物,你不能信任你自己的理性,他将信仰和理性结合在一起,认为基督教既是信仰的也是合理的。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何强调故事或叙事对基督教的重要性?

    -C.S. 路易斯认为故事或叙事的概念对他来说至关重要,他展示了基督教的想象力如何扩展我们对可能性的理解,并重新诠释了被现代主义和科学主义限制可能性的世界。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何恢复对人类的基督教视角?

    -C.S. 路易斯强调每个人的永恒命运,并反对现代文化中使人失去人性的方面,他认为人类是上帝的创造,有着超越物质世界的精神和道德价值。

  • C.S. 路易斯在牛津大学的职业发展受到了他公开的基督教信仰怎样的影响?

    -尽管C.S. 路易斯的书籍是畅销书,他的讲座总是座无虚席,但由于他公开的基督教信仰,他在牛津大学被拒绝了相当于终身教职的职位长达20年。

  • C.S. 路易斯在青少年时期到30岁之间是一个怎样的人物?

    -在青少年时期到30岁之间,C.S. 路易斯是一个公开的无神论者,他的最大愿望是成为一个诗人,但在阅读了一些基督教作家的作品后,他开始对基督教产生了兴趣。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何从绝对的无神论者转变为虔诚的基督徒?

    -C.S. 路易斯在牛津大学与J.R.R. 托尔金等朋友深夜讨论后,最终在33岁时接受了基督教信仰。他称自己为英格兰最不情愿和最被排斥的转变者。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何批判现代主义和后现代主义对道德相对主义和功利主义的看法?

    -C.S. 路易斯认为,即使是非基督徒也能通过自然法则理解道德,他反对现代主义和后现代主义否认我们内心对善恶的固有认识,他认为这种观点是自相矛盾的。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何认为科学应该被用作理解自然世界的工具,而不是追求权力的手段?

    -C.S. 路易斯认为科学是一个极其重要的工具,用于理解自然世界,但他强调科学不能告诉我们关于我们在道德、伦理以及社会和政治问题上应该做出什么选择的最终重要事项。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何看待自然主义和物理主义对人类自由意志的影响?

    -C.S. 路易斯认为自然主义和物理主义否认了自由意志的存在,因为如果人仅仅是由物理事件决定的生化事件的产物,那么我们就没有理由相信我们的思想是真实的。

  • C.S. 路易斯如何通过《纳尼亚传奇》系列书籍传达他的基督教价值观?

    -在《纳尼亚传奇》系列中,纳尼亚的土地是由神圣的深层魔法或我们所说的自然法则维系的,违反这一道德准则就是作恶,这与C.S. 路易斯的基督教价值观相一致。

  • C.S. 路易斯的作品如何对现代世界产生积极影响?

    -C.S. 路易斯的作品继续扩大其影响力,人们发现并回归他的作品,他的思想通过圣灵的影响,激发了人们对更深层次真理的探索和对基督教价值观的重新评价。

  • C.S. 路易斯对于现代科学和自然主义的批判有哪些深远的影响?

    -C.S. 路易斯在《奇迹》一书中对自然主义的批判已经被哲学家如J.P. Moreland等人进一步发展,对现代科学和自然主义的批判在哲学领域引发了一场新的革命。

  • C.S. 路易斯的作品为什么能够吸引不同基督教派别的读者?

    -C.S. 路易斯的作品因其对基督教核心真理的清晰阐述而受到不同基督教派别的读者的欢迎,他的作品具有跨宗派的吸引力,可能是因为他对'纯粹的基督教'概念的探讨。

  • C.S. 路易斯的作品在世俗世界中为什么能够获得认可?

    -C.S. 路易斯的作品在世俗世界中获得认可,因为他的作品被认为是可信的、优秀的,并且没有宗教的外在装饰,这得益于他作为学者的背景和他出色的写作才能。

Outlines

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📚 CS路易斯的持续影响力

本段讲述了CS路易斯作为一位影响深远的思想家和作家,其作品《纳尼亚传奇》和《纯粹的基督教》等在全球范围内广受欢迎,销量惊人。路易斯的书籍不仅在文学上获得成功,更在思想上对现代社会产生了深刻的影响,他以理性的方式阐释了基督教信仰,使之成为现代世界中一个重要的精神支柱。

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🎓 路易斯的学术生涯与信仰转变

这段文字描述了CS路易斯的学术背景和个人信仰的转变。他最初是一位无神论者,但在经历了深刻的思考和挣扎后,最终成为了一名虔诚的基督徒。路易斯的学术生涯主要在牛津大学和剑桥大学,他以中世纪和文艺复兴时期的学者身份闻名,同时也因其基督教护教作品而著称。

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🗝️ 路易斯对现代主义的批判

在这一段中,演讲者探讨了CS路易斯对20世纪现代主义的批判,特别是对科学主义和道德相对主义的反思。路易斯认为,科学应当是追求知识的工具,而不是用来追求权力的手段。他强调了自然法则和道德法则的重要性,认为这些法则是普遍存在的,并且是人类行为和判断的基础。

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🌟 路易斯对自由意志和道德绝对性的辩护

这段文字强调了CS路易斯对自由意志和道德绝对性的辩护。他认为,每个人都是其行为的发起者,拥有选择的自由。路易斯反对自然主义和决定论,指出如果人仅仅是物理过程的产物,那么我们就没有理由相信我们的思想是真实的。他通过《纳尼亚传奇》和其他作品展示了一个由神圣的深层魔法或自然法则维系的世界。

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📘 路易斯对现代科学和自然主义的反思

本段讨论了CS路易斯对现代科学和自然主义的看法。他批评了那些认为人类仅仅是物质世界一部分的观点,并指出这种观点忽视了人的意识和自由意志。路易斯认为,科学的发展是基于基督教神学的信念,即自然界存在规律性,这种规律性源自一个立法者,即上帝。

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🛡️ 路易斯对个人自由和权利的捍卫

这段文字讲述了CS路易斯对个人自由和权利的捍卫。他认为,个人应当拥有经济独立和社会自由,这是幸福生活的基础。路易斯反对任何形式的暴政,无论是共产主义、法西斯主义还是其他形式的极权主义,他都认为这些制度剥夺了人的自由和尊严。

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🌈 路易斯作品的普世价值和现代意义

本段强调了CS路易斯作品的普世价值和在现代社会的意义。他的作品不仅在基督教世界内有深远影响,也受到了世俗世界的尊重和认可。路易斯的作品中所体现的价值观和思想,如对自由、真理和善的追求,对于今天的社会依然具有重要的启示作用。

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📖 路易斯对幻想文学的看法及其对基督教的影响

这段文字探讨了CS路易斯对幻想文学的看法,以及这种文学形式如何与基督教信仰相互作用。路易斯认为,幻想文学能够激发读者的想象力,帮助他们探索和理解更深层次的真理。同时,他也指出了幻想文学可能带来的风险,比如误导读者追求错误的信仰或价值观。

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🕊️ 对未来文化和思想运动的希望

最后这段文字表达了对那些寻求更深层次真理的个人、群体和文化运动的希望。演讲者提到了路易斯的作品如何继续影响着人们,以及他的思想如何被后来的哲学家和学者进一步发展。同时,他也提到了幻想文学和基督教故事在现代社会中的传播和接受,以及这些作品如何帮助人们在现代世界中找到意义和方向。

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Keywords

💡CS Lewis

CS Lewis(Clive Staples Lewis)是一位20世纪著名的英国作家、文学学者、神学家,以其深刻的基督教神学著作和奇幻小说《纳尼亚传奇》系列而闻名。在视频中,他的作品和思想对现代社会和基督教信仰的影响被广泛讨论,显示了他在文学和宗教思想领域的重要性。

💡自然法则

自然法则(Natural Law)是哲学和伦理学中的一个概念,指的是宇宙和人类行为中固有的道德和理性原则。在视频中,CS Lewis强调了自然法则对于理解道德和人类行为的重要性,认为它是普遍存在的,并且与基督教的教义相辅相成。

💡想象力

想象力(Imagination)是人类心智的一种能力,能够创造和构想出不存在于现实中的事物。视频中提到,Lewis认为基督教的故事是完美的想象力展现,它超越了物质世界的限制,触及了更深层次的真理和意义。

💡现代主义

现代主义(Modernism)是20世纪初兴起的一种文化和艺术运动,强调对传统观念的挑战和创新。视频中讨论了现代主义对基督教信仰的挑战,以及Lewis如何通过其作品回应这些挑战,捍卫基督教价值观。

💡自然选择

自然选择(Natural Selection)是查尔斯·达尔文提出的生物进化理论中的一个核心概念,指的是在自然环境中,适应性更强的生物更有可能生存和繁衍后代。视频中提到了Lewis对自然选择和物质主义世界观的批判,认为它们无法解释人类对道德和意义的追求。

💡道德相对主义

道德相对主义(Moral Relativism)是一种伦理学观点,认为道德判断是相对的,取决于个人或文化的观点。在视频中,Lewis反对道德相对主义,认为存在普遍的道德法则,这些法则是客观的,并且与自然法则相联系。

💡个人主义

个人主义(Individualism)是一种强调个人自由、权利和独立性的价值观念。视频中提到,Lewis在其作品中捍卫个人主义,反对那些试图通过集体主义或国家主义压制个人自由的思想。

💡科学主义

科学主义(Scientism)是一种观点,认为科学是获取知识的唯一可靠途径,并且科学方法可以应用于所有领域。视频中Lewis批判了科学主义,认为它忽视了人类经验的非物质方面,如道德、美学和宗教信仰。

💡《纳尼亚传奇》

《纳尼亚传奇》(The Chronicles of Narnia)是CS Lewis创作的一系列奇幻儿童文学作品,深受读者喜爱。视频中提到,这些作品不仅在文学上取得了巨大成功,而且在传播基督教价值观和道德观念方面发挥了重要作用。

💡《纯粹的基督教》

《纯粹的基督教》(Mere Christianity)是CS Lewis的一部著名作品,其中他以理性的方式阐述了基督教信仰的基础。视频中提到,这本书对许多人的信仰生活产生了深远影响,并且销售量达到了数百万册。

Highlights

C.S.路易斯的影响力超越了肯尼迪,他的书籍销量和文化影响证明了他作为思想家的重要性。

《纳尼亚传奇》系列书籍销量高达1.5亿册,被改编成电影后,票房收入达到15亿美元。

《纯粹的基督教》一书销量达300万册,显示了C.S.路易斯在基督教辩护方面的深远影响。

C.S.路易斯的书籍年度销售量高达600万册,显示了其作品的广泛受欢迎。

全球有超过300个C.S.路易斯学会,以及正在筹备中的C.S.路易斯学院,彰显了其思想的持续影响力。

C.S.路易斯展示了理性是信仰的锚,他通过合理的辩护吸引了寻求答案的人们。

路易斯批判了现代精英知识分子的傲慢与虚伪,强调了信仰与理性的结合。

C.S.路易斯强调了想象力在传达基督教真理中的重要性,认为故事或叙事是关键。

C.S.路易斯恢复了对人类的基督教视角,强调了每个人的永恒命运。

路易斯在牛津大学和剑桥大学的学术生涯,以及他作为公开基督徒的身份,反映了他的信仰和学术追求。

C.S.路易斯从无神论者转变为虔诚的基督徒,这一转变过程体现了他对基督教真理的深刻理解。

路易斯的书籍《反叛的废除》和《那可怕的力量》对现代道德相对主义和功利主义进行了批判。

C.S.路易斯在《奇迹》一书中对自然主义进行了深刻的批判,展示了其自相矛盾的本质。

路易斯强调了自然法则的重要性,认为它是所有道德判断的来源,并且是普遍存在的。

C.S.路易斯反对现代主义和后现代主义对客观道德标准的否定,强调了我们内心的道德认知。

路易斯认为科学应该追求知识,而不是作为某些人追求权力的工具。

C.S.路易斯警告了现代主义对个体的压制和对集体及国家至上主义的推崇。

路易斯强调了个人自由的重要性,包括社会自由和经济自由,反对任何形式的暴政。

C.S.路易斯的作品在基督教和世俗世界都受到尊重,显示了他的思想具有普遍的吸引力。

路易斯的作品继续扩大其影响力,人们不断发现并回归他的思想。

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I want to express my gratitude for the

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opportunity to be the first of the

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speakers my talk is entitled ycs Lewis

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is as influential as ever

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CS Lewis died on the same day that

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President John F Kennedy was

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assassinated the news of Kennedy's death

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swamped what would otherwise have been a

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major story on the death of one of the

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most influential men of his time fifty

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years later Lewis is today arguably far

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more influential than Kennedy Lewis's

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books have been translated into more

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than 40 languages and have sold millions

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of copies the seven books that make up

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the Chronicles of Narnia first published

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more than 60 years ago have sold the

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most estimated at around 150 million

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sets and have been popularized on stage

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TV radio and the movies since 2001

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Lewis's book Mere Christianity has sold

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3 million copies and the script eight

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Screwtape Letters two million copies it

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is estimated that annual sales of

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Louis's books range as high as six

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million copies in all there are about a

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hundred and ten authored or edited books

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by Lewis and about 300 books that

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discuss him at his work with additional

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new ones published every year many

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becoming bestsellers the combined box

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office sales for the three Narnia films

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so far totals 1.5 billion dollars and

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the film series is the 24th

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highest-grossing series of all time a

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fourth film based on the Silver Chair is

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now in production until the Harry Potter

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books series the 7 volumes of Louis's

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Chronicles of Narnia were the most

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influential children's books of all time

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in the world

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voted so by successive polls of parents

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librarians tea

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cheers and also by their sales and the

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Potter books haven't cut into Narnia's

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market indeed they've greatly expanded

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it as sales of the Narnia ad have

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increased by 20% during this time today

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there are also over 300 CS Lewis

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societies around the world and a CS

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Lewis College is in the works in

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Massachusetts for me Lewis provides a

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clear articulation of what it means to

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be a Christian in today's modern world

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for Lewis Christianity was something

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that captured the mind fired the

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imagination and filled the heart and

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becoming a Christian changed the way he

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viewed the world and the people in it

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there are several reasons why Lewis we

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think is so important number one Lewis

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showed that reason is the anchor of

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faith by presenting a defense of the

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Christian faith that appealed to reason

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Lewis removed obstacles to faith that

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most people in our world face today

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Lewis removed obstacles to faith by

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restoring reason to its price its

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rightful place Lewis showed how

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Christianity could appeal to those

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earnestly seeking answers to today's

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greatest questions of life as Lewis

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noted quote Christ never meant that we

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were to remain children in intelligence

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he wants a child's heart but a grownups

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head unquote number two Lewis punctured

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the pomposity and the pretension of

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modern elite intellectuals for example

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Lewis revealed that you cannot trust

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your own reason if you are solely the

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product of random chance

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evolution Lewis tithe faith and reason

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together in which Christianity is both

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faithful and rational number three Lewis

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noted that quote reason is the natural

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organ of truth but imagination is the

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organ of meaning unquote the concept of

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story or narrative was crucial for Lewis

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he showed that Christian

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imagination could expand our sense of

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what's possible Christian imagination

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could reinter world that has been

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disenchanted by the limited

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possibilities of modernism and scientism

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he showed that speaking about God in

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non-religious terms is vital

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making the truths of Christianity fresh

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and novel and number four

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Lewis restored a Christian vision of

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humanity the eternal destiny of every

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human being as a result he fought

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against the dehumanizing aspects of

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modern culture Louis spent most of his

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career as a medieval and renaissance

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scholar at Oxford University in England

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then as today being an avowed Christian

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in academia or indeed in the public eye

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at all was not a good way to advance

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one's career and he was accordingly

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denied the English equivalent of a

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tenured position at Oxford for 20 years

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despite the fact that his books were

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bestsellers and his lectures

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consistently drew standing-room-only

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crowds he eventually moved to Cambridge

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University when he was offered a tenured

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position today few people are aware that

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Lewis was a medieval and renaissance

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scholar beyond Narnia Lewis is best

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known as a Christian apologist but he

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certainly didn't set out to be such in

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fact from his teenage years until his

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30s he was an avowed atheist and his

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greatest wished had been become a poet

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as the young child Lewis was tutored at

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home by his mother including in French

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and Latin her death when he was nine had

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a devastating effect on him and may well

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a plan of the seed of his subsequent

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atheism he prayed for his mother's

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recovery from cancer and his prayers

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were not answered as he desired this

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problem of pain quote unquote if God is

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good and all-powerful why do bad things

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happen to good people maybe the root of

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more people turning away from belief

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than any other

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lewis's father reacted to his beloved

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wife's death by drawing into himself and

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Lewis and his older brother Warren were

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especially and essentially left bereft

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following a disastrous time at a brutal

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boarding school in England Lewis's

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father moved him into a home of a

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private tutor by the name of William

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Kirkpatrick or the great knock the great

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knock was characterized by Louis as

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quote a hard satirical atheist who

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taught me to think unquote Lewis was the

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set on a path of strict rationalistic

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atheism he came to believe in in the

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meaninglessness of life and that we need

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to build their lives on the basis of

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quote

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unyielding despair unquote as he put it

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Lewis's way of stating it was quote

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nearly all I loved I believed to be

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imaginary nearly all that I believed to

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be real I thought grim a meaningless

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unquote in his imagination he loved to

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read about truth goodness and beauty but

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in his reason he held to a rather dark

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view of life this tension between reason

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and imagination continued to increase

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despite his best intention to be a

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strict atheist the things he liked best

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to read and the people he liked best to

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be with turned out to be Oh No

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Christian at the age of sixteen waiting

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for a train he bought a copy of the book

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fantasies by the Scottish writer and

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former Presbyterian minister George

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MacDonald the book was in the train

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bookshop its deeply Christian themes

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resonated with him and he later said of

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the book quote that night my imagination

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was in a certain sense baptized the rest

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of me not unnaturally took longer I had

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not the faintest notion what I had let

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myself in for buying fantasies unquote

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in a similar way he loved GK

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Chesterton's books

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quote in reading Chesterton as in

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reading George MacDonald I did not know

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what I was letting myself in for a young

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man who wishes to remain a sound atheist

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cannot be too careful of his reading

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there are traps everywhere God is if I

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may say it very unscrupulous unquote at

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Oxford his greatest friend was j.r.r

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tolkien and one night after walking and

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talking with talking and another friend

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Hugo Dyson they talked and walked until

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3:00 in the morning Lewis finally came

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to accept Christ and Christianity at the

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age of 33 at 17 Lewis had written to his

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best friend quote I believe in no

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religion there is absolutely no proof

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for any of them and from a philosophical

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standpoint Christianity is not even the

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best unquote fifteen years later he

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wrote the same friend quote Christianity

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is not the best Christianity is God

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expressing himself through what he

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called real things namely the actual

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Incarnation crucifixion and resurrection

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Lewis called himself the most ejected

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and reluctant convert in all England

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so within fifteen years he moved from

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being an an absolute atheist to being a

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devout convert he clearly became the

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most influential in England and

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certainly the fact that he was such a

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disciplined thinker and had spent so

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many years working through the case

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against Christianity to finally Reason

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himself into knowing it to be true

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provided him the basis for which to

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communicate those arguments to the world

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and Lewis had a profound impact on the

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world but again what accounts for this

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influence which continues to grow the

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20th century has been described as the

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century of modernism the development of

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the narrative that under the centuries

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of belief in Christianity

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humanity had lived in a dark ages of

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prescience and superstition the so

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called

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Flat Earth era this modernist narrative

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claims that the so called enlightenment

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of the 17th and 18th century represented

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the triumph of secular science over

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superstition assuring an a new era of

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progress and reason further the belief

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in undirected evolution replaced that of

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a purposeful creator God

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now ISM as a medieval and renaissance

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scholar Lewis knew that the university

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science and reason had been products of

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Christianity including the producing of

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primary medieval astronomy book named

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sphere which was used in almost all the

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schools as a sociologist rightie stark

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discusses in his books the victory of

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Reason and how the West won early and

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medieval Christianity displaced paganism

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and it's widespread slavery infanticide

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repression of women disregard for the

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suffering and a world of chaos and

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superstition assuring in Western

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civilization in which the secular and

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the sacred were unified producing a feel

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political worldview of hope joy liberty

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justice and purpose from the loving

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grace of God that enable them to

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discover the objective natural law

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principles of ethics science and

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theology stark shows that the result

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created a bountiful culture of art and

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literature plus an immense human

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flourishing from individual liberty

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personal responsibility free-market

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entrepreneurship civic virtue limited

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government and the rule of law Lewis was

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alarmed by his firsthand witnessing of

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the results of modernism including the

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development of the total state and total

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war in which man became simply a cog in

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a galactic wheel the themes of both his

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and Tolkien's writings reflect their

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directly seeing the growth

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to tell 't Arianism and the subjugation

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of the individual to the collective and

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the almighty state Lewis wrote his book

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the abolition of man in response to has

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seen the rise of moral relativism and

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utilitarianism quote the end justifies

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the means unquote and it and his

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novelized treatment of the same themes

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in his book that hideous strength are if

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anything more relevant today than when

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he wrote them decades ago in the

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abolition of man Louis presented the

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case for the existence of a moral law a

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natural moral law known by all he called

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it the Dow as in the way or the path not

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to be confused with the Chinese

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philosophy Taoism now this natural moral

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code as Louis shows cannot be escaped it

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is the source from which all moral

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judgments come its fundamental truths

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Maxim's like good should be done and

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evil avoided that caring for others is a

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good thing that dying for a righteous

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cause is a noble thing our note

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independently of experience they are

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grasped in the same way that we know

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that two plus two is four here's Louis

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quote if a man will go into a library

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and spend a few days with the

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encyclopedia of religion and ethics he

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will soon discover the massive unanimity

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of the practical reason of man from the

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babylonian him to Samos from the laws of

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Manu the Book of the Dead the Analects

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of Confucius

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the Stoics the platanus from ad from

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Australian Aborigines he will collect

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the same triumphantly monotonous

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denunciations of oppression murder

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treachery and falsehood the same

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injunctions of kindness to the aged the

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young and the weak of alms giving and

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impartiality and honesty

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he may be a little surprised I certainly

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was as Louis continues I certainly was

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to find the print that the precepts of

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mercy are more frequent than the

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precepts of justice but he will no

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longer doubt that there is such a thing

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as the law of nature unquote louis lesce

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rejected the idea that only those who

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were Christian could understand to be

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moral because the natural law is

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fundamental to human existence and

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serves as the basis for human choice he

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noted that if only Christians could

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grasp the natural law or understand

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morality then there would be an

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irresolvable dilemma in which no one

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could be persuaded to morality who was

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not already Christian and hence that no

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one could ever become Christian the

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Apostle Paul put the same idea this way

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quote when Gentiles do by nature things

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required by the law they are a law for

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themselves but even though they did not

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have the law since they show the

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requirement of the law written on their

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hearts their consciousness also bear

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witness and their thoughts now accusing

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now even defending them unquote that's

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from Romans to 14 to 15 modernism and

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post-modernism deny this truth the fact

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that we all know in our hearts when

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something is right or wrong and replace

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it with the theories of moral relativism

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there's no objective good

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there's just what's good for me and

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what's good for you and neither is

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better than the other and utilitarianism

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on the former utilitarianism Louis

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pointed out that the person who claims

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there's no objective standard of good

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will be the loudest to cry when his seat

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is stolen on the bus crying that's

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unfair where does the concept of

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fairness spring if there's no objective

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standard or morality

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hence the link between utilitarianism

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and moral relativism

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as Lewis noted in critiquing the modern

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view that only a material purposeless

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world exists quote you cannot go on

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seeing things forever you cannot go on

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seeing through things forever the whole

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point of seeing through something is to

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see something frit through it if you see

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through everything then everything is

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transparent but a wholly transparent

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world is an invisible world to see

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through all things is the same as not to

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see unquote for Lewis science should be

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a quest for knowledge and is concerned

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with that in the modern era science is

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too often used instead as a quest for

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power by some over others Lewis did not

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dispute that science is an immensely

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important tool to understand the natural

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world but as larger point is that

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science cannot tell us anything that is

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ultimately important regarding what

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choices we should make in other words

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Lewis shows that what is does not

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indicate what ought to be scientists on

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their own are not able to address moral

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ethics and all social and political

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questions are exclusively questions of

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morality rooted in the natural law the

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DAO Louis further viewed all those

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attempts to replicate the scientific

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method to analyze man or humankind as a

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strictly material physical phenomenon as

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non science or what he called scientism

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quote lets scientists tell us about

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science but government involves

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questions about the good for man and

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justice and what things are worth having

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at what price and on these a scientific

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training gives a man's opinion no added

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value as any student will quickly find

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in most high schools and colleges today

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and is embedded in much popular culture

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the science has become dominated by a

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naturalist or modernist or atheist or

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secular

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worldview that assumes that the universe

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and life are purposeless and that mine

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kind is simply a more complex material

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version of all else in the natural world

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in other words an individual human being

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is viewed as no more and no less than a

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system of molecular processes determined

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by physical laws human beings are

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claimed to be simply machines in a

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galactic machine quote we are matter in

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motion

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unquote in this system all human

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behavior and ideas are determined solely

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as the product of a mechanistic cause

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the process of physical events such

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contemporary naturalist writers as the

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evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins

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and IO Wilson the philosopher Daniel

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Dennett and others subscribe to a

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physical ism or naturalism according to

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which only the material world exists

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according to Dawkins quote in a universe

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of blind physical forces and genetic

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replication some people are going to get

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hurt other people are going to get lucky

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and you won't find any rhyme or reason

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to it nor any justice the universe we

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observe has precisely the properties we

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should expect if there is at bottom no

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design no purpose no evil and no good

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nothing but blind pitiless indifference

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unquote lewis knows that material facts

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alone cannot provide any conclusion

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without some independent basis to

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evaluate such information he claims that

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the analysis of any world requires the

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existence of people including scientists

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whose views themselves are not

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mechanistically determined by the world

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they are examining

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so if Dawkins is denying anything other

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than this world and that the only thing

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that frames or determines his own

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thoughts

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he can't conclude or know that anything

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he says is true he denies existence of

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truth so he's trying to have it in sort

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of a schizophrenic incoherent be right

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indeed if our mental processes are

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simply biochemical events solely the

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product of Darwinian survival we have no

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basis to know if our thoughts are true

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or not because there is no standard for

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truth other than survival utilitarianism

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becomes the sole criterion for what to

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do and there are good there exists no

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objective good or evil here Lewis

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pointed out the naturalist determinist

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profound dilemma regarding the existence

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of individual consciousness and free

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will including the naturalist very own

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inability to argue for naturalism or any

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proposition as I was suggesting quote

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thus no thoroughgoing naturalist can

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believe in free will free will would

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mean that human beings have the power of

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independent action the power of doing

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something more or other than what was

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involved by the total series of events

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in which we exist

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and any such separate power or

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originating events is what the

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naturalist denies spontaneity

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originality action on his own creativity

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is a privilege reserved for the whole

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show

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which he calls nature unquote

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incidentally nature naturalism is a Cree

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as a Creed is a very old one a number of

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the pre-socratic philosophers were

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probably the first to promote proposed

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it as an early version of naturalism

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Plato pair amenities and Aristotle

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discredited by the way these

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pre-socratic naturalist however and it

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was not until much later as the

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gentleman here was suggesting much later

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that the naturalistic read resurfaced in

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a major way in the 18th and 19th

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centuries from the work of David Hume

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Augusta comped on reducing shimon

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friedrich nietzsche karl marx sequin

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freud charles darwin and other modern

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writers with this worldview nietzsche

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logically proposed that man quote is

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beyond good and evil unquote and

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behaviorist naturalist BF Skinner

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claimed that man is beyond freedom and

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dignity

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to underscore this basic problem in the

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strict naturalist view Lewis quotes the

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marks the spy logist JBS Haldane quote

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if my mental processes a determined

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solely by the motion of atoms in my

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brain I have no reason to suppose my

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beliefs are true and hence I have no

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reason for supposing my brain to be

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composed of atoms unquote this is from

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someone who is a naturalist and a

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determinist

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but again as Lewis has shown to claim

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that individuals have no viewpoints is

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to present a thought that is possible

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only by having a point of view in short

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the denial of an of intention or

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intentional States is incoherent and

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this is what passes for scholarship it's

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really unbelievable what is critical to

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free will is each of us not being caused

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to do something by causes other than

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oneself to have free will means it is up

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to me how I choose and nothing

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determines my choice philosophers call

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this agent causation each individual as

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an agent is the cause of his or her

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actions Adam and Eve caused their

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actions

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Moses caused his actions etc each

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person's decisions are differentiated

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from random events by indeed being done

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by the agent himself or herself by

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reasons the agent has in his or her mind

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this understanding of free world

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incidentally has relevance to the case

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of God himself Jesus being divine could

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not sin therefore there was no

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possibility of his yielding to Satan's

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temptations in the wilderness yet he

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resisted sin

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really because nothing external to him

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determined his choices Jesus could not

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have chosen to sin but he freely

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resisted them and God cannot choose to

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do evil yet he freely does the good

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because nothing outside him determines

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him to do so

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he is his own agent

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we in effect reflect this reality having

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been created in His image what a great

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significance what a huge difference from

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matter Louis understood that science

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arose because of the Christian theistic

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believes of the original scientists

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quote men became scientific because they

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expected law in nature and the expected

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law in nature because they believed in a

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legislature try to make neg nature

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absolute and you find that her

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uniformity is not even possible where

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does the uniformity come from unquote in

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this regard

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science rests upon what's called the

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dualism of a material and an immaterial

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unnatural and in Supernatural a physical

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and a metaphysical reality to deny the

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metaphysical basis for science is to

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make science itself unintelligible and

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impossible how do you describe what

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science is without a narrative without a

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description without the mind concealing

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it and choosing what is true or not

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naturalism along with its consequent

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scientism and collectivism were simply

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matter in motion with all the other

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matter that's in motion this is an

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erroneous and self contradictory view

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that not only fails but breeds untruths

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that have led historically to repeated

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human folly and unspeakable horrors

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certainly in the 20th century louis

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clearly laid out the danger of the

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modern view of man as merely a creature

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to be molded and socially engineered by

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a scientific elite quote either we are

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rational spirit

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in the beginning there was the word

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either were be a rational spirit obliged

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forever to obey the absolute values of

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the Dow or else we are mere nature to be

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needed and cut into new shapes for the

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pleasures of masters who must by

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hypothesis have no motive but their own

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natural impulses

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that is our rulers as mere men and women

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must by definition also be responding

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solely to survival instinct if dark if

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Dawkins is correct so what makes us

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think their decision-making will be good

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and what does that mean which according

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to the naturalist of course does not

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exist and there is no objective standard

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here's Louis again only the DAO provides

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a common human law of action which can

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over arch rulers and ruled alike a

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dogmatic belief an objective value is

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necessary to the very idea of a rule

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which is not tyranny or an obedience

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which is not slavery the process which

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if you've not checked will abolish man

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goes on a pace among communists and

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Democrats no less among fascists the

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methods may at first differ in brutality

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and extent but many am I'd a mild eyed

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scientist many a popular dramatist maybe

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many an amateur philosopher in our midst

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means in the long run essentially just

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the same as the Nazi rulers of Germany

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unquote and throughout the modern world

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this rule by man versus the dow has

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spread across every civilization not

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just those we think of as totalitarian

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losses observations are even more true

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today with quote with vast curtailment

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of Liberty and we have grown though

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crumbing Lee accustomed to our chains

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our intellectuals have surrendered first

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to the slave philosophy of Hegel then to

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Marx as a result classical could of

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political theory with its stoic

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Christian and juristic key conceptions

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natural law the value of the individual

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the rights of man has died the modern

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state exists not to protect our rights

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but to do us good or to make us good any

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way to do something to us or to make us

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some thing hence the new name leaders

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for those who were once rulers we are

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less their subjects than their wards

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pupils or domestic animals

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there's nothing left of which we can say

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to them mind your own business our whole

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lives are their business unquote

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throughout Louis's books he defended the

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rights and sank theses of individuals

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against tyranny not just because he

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opposed evil but because he considered

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life in freedom including both social

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and economic freedom to be essential

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quote I believe man a man is happier and

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happy in a richer way if he had the

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freeborn mind but I doubt whether he can

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have this without economic independence

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which the new society is abolishing for

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economic independence allows an

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education not controlled by government

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in an adult life it is man who needs and

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asked nothing of government who can

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criticize its acts and snap his fingers

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at his ideology google talk like that

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when the state is everyone's

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schoolmaster an employer unquote and the

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danger of this of course is again that

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garment consists solely of humans like

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us quote man is so fallen that man that

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no man can be trusted with unchecked

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power over his fellows Aristotle said

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that some people were only fit to be

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slaves

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I do not contradict him but I reject

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slavery because I see no men fit to be

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masters unquote

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by showing by showing throughout his

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work that the Dow is known and held

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universally with Christianity providing

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the highest and purest view of God's

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truth Lewis makes the powerful case that

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we are therefore inescapably God's

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creation Lewis makes the powerful case

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that we are therefore inescapably God's

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creation the argument that we are

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subject only to the forces of a godless

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nature undirected obeying only a

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survival instinct utterly fails to

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account for our innate concepts of good

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ought right and wrong unless we could we

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want to live in a world of unchecked

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government power a world in which only

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might makes right it is imperative that

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we learn from great thinkers like Lewis

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who see and paint so clearly the

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implications of a danger of the

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dangerous ideas around us in the media

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in academia in popular culture and the

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political realm but doing so we build

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upon the truths Christ taught grounding

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ourselves in the knowledge of how we

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should live in our modern world and now

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we should regard and treat one another

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in Louis's book series The Chronicles of

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Narnia the land of Narnia is held in

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place by the sacred deep magic or what

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we would call the natural law and to

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transgress this moral code is to do evil

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which is what the white witch did and

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others toward the end of the first book

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in the series the line of which in the

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wardrobe the children Peter Susan Edmund

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and Lucy assume their Thrones as kings

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and queens of Narnia but what can they

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do as kings and queens they can only

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enforce the deep magic Louis describes

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how they governed during the Golden Age

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of Narnia and the most important

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accomplishments quote and they made good

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laws and kept the peace and liberated

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young dwarfs and young satyrs from being

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sent to school and Johnny stopped

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busybodies and interferes and encouraged

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ordinary people who want to live and let

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live unquote so thank you very much this

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person writes neuroscientists proceed

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with the assumption that mine is

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physically based if this is not the case

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then are we introducing supernatural to

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science

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how're we doing were just introducing

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supernatural okay looks like the the

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argument that Louis would make is that

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without the existence the supernatural

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there is no free will and there's no

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individual agency to be a scientist all

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right you can't explain reason and

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freewill and the existence of objective

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truth and any standard that can be

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replicated unless there is that

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existence so for example

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multiplication multiplication tables

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exists objectively or is simply our

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subjective regret projection does a

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number 7 exist does the idea of killing

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children and torturing children is that

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an objective thing that we perceive or

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suggest that we happen to live here at

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this time right so Louis's argument is

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that two plus two equals four is the

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same basic understanding as we have that

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killing innocent people is wrong and we

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have this sense and we can't get it out

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of her head

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even a Hitler does not randomly kill

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people he has a theory right he applies

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it in a certain way it's evil but you

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know it's not everybody right so there

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is a check and that's what we see you

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know with all the great horrors and the

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things that are done better not horse so

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the fundamental dilemma Louis in the

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those of you have not read the book

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miracles by Louis I highly recommend the

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first few chapters is his critique of

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naturalism showing that it's incoherent

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self-refuting as I was describing

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earlier that if our minds are if our

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minds are simply our brains material

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brain that

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ideas that we have our sympathy

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illusions created by biochemical

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reactions in the brain and that

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everything that's ever existed in the

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history of the universe is simply a

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sequence of events that led to this

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moment when I have that biochemical

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reaction I don't have any favorable

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determinant I can't have no ability to

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discern or infer if somebody is okay

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but the person who makes the argument

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has to assume that he or she is not

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subject by the same metric and so it's

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interesting by the way that every

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determinist theorist exempts themselves

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on their own theory thank you a David

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I'm up here I've got another question of

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this question is um kind of a practical

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question for a parent who wants to ask

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about about literature their children

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your insight on Lois sales during Potter

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popularity brought to mind concerns of

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parents on how fantasy plays for or

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against Christianity especially in media

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or technology so maybe if you can share

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maybe some I don't know some pros or

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cons and response to fantasy and how

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that helps Christian okay this this

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relates to what Calvin was saying

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earlier about imagination okay now what

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Louis is talking about is the idea of we

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have a mind and we try to make sense of

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our of our life and reality okay we have

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a narrative we have a story to explain

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what is true what's not what we expect

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to happen what we think is going to

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happen how do we get things done we have

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this explanation right now the theory is

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different from data okay

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the theory is how we sort of interpret

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data or maybe how we look at the data so

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mine before matter is the idea as

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opposed to mind after matter so Louis's

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point about imagination is that we

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conceive of a narrative of what is true

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in the history of man

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there are all sorts of myths and stories

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there's the Iliad there's the Aeneid

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there is Chaucer's Canterbury Tales and

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Shakespeare and so on and so forth and

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these are all imaginative narratives

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right whether they actually are

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historically true or not is secondary

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they exist because they're expressing a

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series of truths that the characters and

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others are playing out okay and so what

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Louis was affected by was he was loved

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stories love imagination and I mentioned

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he read the picked up this book as a

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teenager called fantasies by this

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Christian writer George MacDonald George

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MacDonald is viewed as the father of all

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modern fantasy and Lewis being an

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atheist at the time didn't know what he

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was getting in for and so it if you ever

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read the book or any of other McDonald's

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books you'd be surprised at what

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McDonald is able to do he's able to draw

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you in so Louis's way to describe this

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is he called it instead of looking at

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something you're looking along it you're

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entering into and you're experiencing

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the truths of the story so think of it

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this way you pick up a book you look at

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the page it has these squiggles on it

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ink on this piece of wood right but I

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just start reading it you enter a world

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and you forget you're looking at a page

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right now they try to think about the

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page and you immediately leave the story

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it's like you enter in this other world

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which is the world of imagination right

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and so Louis is saying that that is that

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is what we are most completely that's

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what we're doing the Christian story is

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the perfect imagination the perfect

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story the true myth as you put it and so

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the

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the story about his reading fantasies

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inspired him to begin to see that the

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truths in Norse mythology and Egyptian

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mythology and Greek mythology their true

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sin that is why they endured but the

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Christian story was the perfect truth

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and so these others the way he viewed it

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is that they're pointing towards certain

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truth now certainly people can use this

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for ill to write they can they can

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depict evil and say that's what we

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should be you know you should be a

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Wiccan or whatever might be right and

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that's that's obviously catering to the

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same kind of base tennessee's everybody

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has right including pride itself so

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that's a real problem

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interesting enough with rolling rolling

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after she wrote her seventh book in the

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series she admitted not only is she a

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Christian but she was inspired by the

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Lewis and Tolkien and so Paul Ashby by

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the way in our newest book club led our

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discussion on Rowling's very interesting

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Christian imagery in the series and

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you're welcome to talk to Paul about

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who's the expert on I've got a one last

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question before we close this session

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and it is what are some ways that you

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are hopeful for movements individuals

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and groups really seeking to to grasp

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some some deeper truths here and to

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really further some of the work that

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Lewis was all about what are some areas

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that that bring you hope well one thing

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is the fact that Lewis's work continues

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to expand its reach and people

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discovering it and going are going back

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to it the fact is the hits I mean Louis

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thought that his books would die out and

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be go out of print within it two or

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three years after he died and but that

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didn't happen

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and

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people who've been influenced by Lewis

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clearly through the Holy Spirit have

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gone further

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for example his critique of naturalism

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in the book miracles has been taken and

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advanced to a very very sophisticated

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extent by a philosopher felony of elven

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planning and we have one of his books in

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the table you're going to look at it and

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planica

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has created a whole new revolution in

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the field of philosophy which is been

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challenging this atheist modernist Locke

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that it's had 400 years of something and

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so there you know also the Philosopher's

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have converted and they're new journals

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and societies but that's just one field

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and it's true in all the academic fields

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some more than others and in a popular

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sense the fact that the films I mean

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we've we've been involved in helping as

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you may know with the promotion for his

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novel the Screwtape Letters on stage or

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the Great Divorce on stage and they're

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sold out over and over again so why

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would that be well part of is because

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many Christians want to see it or they

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but it's they have standing in the

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secular world that's the interesting

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thing and this is part of what I think

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Calvin is suggesting is that Louis's

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work is of interest to almost every

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version of Christian alright Catholic

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Eastern Orthodox almost every single

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Protestant denomination it's really this

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ecumenical kind of reach and respect

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probably because of his concept of mere

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christianity but his work passes the

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test of the secular world of what is

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credible what is good what is excellent

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and we'll present it no it hasn't

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trappings why because that he was a

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scholar in it and he had the great

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talents to write

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so it is interesting that this happens

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but it doesn't mean that things may not

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get I mean the recent Hobbit trilogy is

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not exactly where Tolkien would have

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done that tell you that but still even

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even with the the distortions of it my

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view is the basic message comes through

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and that's why it's successful

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