New Pixel 8 and OnePlus Phones!

Summary

The hosts Andrew, Marquez, and David discuss tech news headlines like Instagram's new support for HDR photos, developments from Google's Pixel phone line including rumors about the Pixel 9, and their impressions of the new electric Rolls-Royce Spectre luxury sedan. Other topics include potential AR and VR applications for Disney's 'Hollow Deck' walking floor technology, New Jersey requiring gyms to allow online membership cancellation, and reviews of recent phones like the OnePlus 12.

Takeaways

• 😀 The hosts discuss recent tech news headlines like Instagram supporting HDR photos, OnePlus 12 release, and Tesla price increases.
• 📱 OnePlus 12 seems like a solid upgrade with Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, bright OLED display, Hasselblad camera.
• 📷 Instagram now supports uploading HDR photos from Galaxy phones, which may blast brightness if viewing in dark mode.
• 🔋 Tesla increased prices across lineup without warning, likely due to supply chain costs and demand.
• 🏋️‍♂️ New Jersey now requires gyms to allow online membership cancellation, preventing inconvenient in-person cancellations.
• 🛼 Disney research created a 'magic carpet' floor with rotating tiles to simulate walking in VR without actually moving.
• 👀 Pixel 9 renders leaked showing a bold camera visor design with hard edges unlike the Pixel 8's slopes.
• 😎 Rolls-Royce Spectre EV is super plush and smooth but very expensive at over $500k with options.
• 🌠 The Rolls-Royce starlight headliner has occasional shooting stars for a magical effect.
• 💵 Tesla Plaid+ price increased by $15k overnight to $138k showing the rapid changes in EV market.

Q & A

What are the hosts of the podcast discussing in this episode?

In this episode, the hosts are discussing tech news headlines and other topics by picking them out of a hat. It's a segment they call 'Headlines in a Hat'.

What is the hosts' opinion on HDR photos and videos?

The hosts seem to have mixed opinions on HDR photos and videos. Marques says it can be jarring when scrolling through low brightness and then seeing a bright HDR photo. Overall, they think HDR should be optional and it needs more widespread compatibility before becoming the default.

What did the hosts like about the Rolls-Royce Spectre?

Some things the hosts liked were the purple LED lighting, the heated seats, the 'lambswool' carpet, the soft suspension and throttle/braking response, and the stars/shooting stars on the ceiling.

What is the hosts' view on walking mechanics in VR games?

The hosts believe the walking mechanics in VR games are one of the biggest immersion breakers. Solutions like omnidirectional treadmills or this new hollowdeck tile floor from Disney could help make walking in VR feel more natural.

What are the hosts' thoughts on the OnePlus 12?

The hosts seem to have an overall positive view of the OnePlus 12. They think it's a solid upgrade with new 2024 features like the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. Marques says it's a 'good phone' at a decent $800 price point.

What is Photomode discussed in the episode?

Photomode is a new Pixel feature that uses on-device AI to transform your favorite photos into animated reactions that you can use in messaging apps.

What is the hosts' view on Magic Compose?

Magic Compose is a Gmail-like auto reply feature for Pixel Messages that uses generative AI to create contextual suggested responses based on your messages. The hosts seem interested but unsure if it will be better than default quick replies.

What is the hosts' opinion on flat phone edges?

The hosts have mixed opinions. David and Andrew seem to like the flat metal edges on phones like the iPhone. But Marques thinks the Pixel 6's curved glass edges looked more intentional as a single piece.

What did the hosts think about the purple Rolls-Royce paint job?

The hosts thought the purple satin paint job costing $13,000 extra on the Rolls-Royce Spectre was pretty cool and fancy looking.

What did the hosts like about the OnePlus haptics?

The hosts were impressed by the haptic feedback on the OnePlus 12, particularly the triple-tap shimmy sensation when clearing notifications.

Outlines

00:00

🎤 Introducing podcast hosts and topic

The hosts Marquez, Andrew and David introduce themselves and the Waveform podcast. They mention it has been a busy January. Marquez makes a joke about trying to make "Jan-uary" a thing.

05:00

📱 A distracting calendar app

Marquez talks about being distracted by a newly launched calendar app called Amy. He clicking on a Verge article about it and being drawn in by the app's beautiful website. He discusses his weakness for productivity apps that combine calendars, email, and to-do lists.

10:00

📝 Discussion of notes and task apps

The hosts discuss their preferences for notes and task management apps. David uses Google Keep, Marquez has tried Things and TickTick. They talk about the struggle to switch between apps when trying out a new productivity system.

15:01

🗓 Google Calendar merits and calendar apps

Adam argues that while calendar apps may look visually similar, the difference is in features for adding events, drag-and-drop, etc. Marquez adds that Amy combines calendar, email and tasks to allow dragging emails and tasks directly onto your calendar.

20:02

📆 Notion Calendar launch

The hosts have recently switched to using Notion Calendar. Marquez compares it to Amy in terms of combining calendar and tasks. He is willing to forego some convenience to try Amy's features.

25:02

💪 New Jersey gym law

Andrew talks about a new New Jersey law requiring gyms to allow online cancellation of memberships. The hosts agree this should be federal law, similar to unsubscribing from emails.

30:04

📱 OnePlus and Samsung software

Continuing the software discussion, David asks about a Samsung feature to auto-organize Keep notes. Marquez clarifies it is in Samsung Notes. They discuss OnePlus changing Oxygen OS to Color OS.

35:06

🔮 Pixel 9 renders leak

Renders allegedly showing the Pixel 9 and 9 Pro design have leaked. The camera area resembles Among Us characters. The overall style mimics iPhone with flat sides but a disconnected camera bump.

40:06

☀️ Instagram and HDR photos

Instagram now supports uploading HDR photos from Galaxy phones. The hosts discuss how jarring it can be when highly dynamic photos appear unexpectedly in feeds viewed under low brightness.

45:07

📸 Pixel updates: Search circle, temperature

Marquez details new Pixel 8 updates: 1) Search circle like Samsung to search screen contents 2) Take skin temperature readings 3) Transform photos into Emoji reactions.

50:08

🚘 Discussing the Rolls-Royce Spectre

The hosts reminisce about reviewing the Rolls-Royce Spectre luxury electric vehicle. Talking points: suicide doors, plush Lambswool floor mats, starry ceiling, heated seats.

55:08

💡 Sentiments on OnePlus 12 series phones

Marquez gives brief impressions on recently launched OnePlus 12 and 12R phones. Good value for specs like bright OLED and Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. Shows haptics using precise “shimmy” vibration.

Keywords

💡OLED

OLED stands for organic light emitting diode. It is a display technology that is brighter, higher contrast, and more power efficient than older LCD displays. In the video, the hosts discuss how new phones are taking advantage of brighter OLED displays by supporting HDR photos and videos.

💡HDR

HDR stands for high dynamic range. It refers to photos and videos that have a wider range of light and color than standard dynamic range (SDR) images. The hosts debate whether the ultra-bright HDR content on new phones actually improves the viewing experience, especially in dim environments.

💡knits

Knits refers to the brightness or maximum luminance of a display, measured in units called candela per square meter (cd/m2). The hosts joke about new phones having so many extra knits thanks to advances in OLED technology, but question whether we really need or can take advantage of that added brightness.

💡Ultra HDR

Ultra HDR is an informal term for extremely bright and colorful HDR images, enabled by high knit displays on the latest phones. The hosts discuss how Ultra HDR photos on Pixel phones are now supported on Instagram, which could negatively impact the viewing experience.

💡quick settings

The quick settings menu refers to the shortcut controls for things like WiFi, Bluetooth, etc that you access by swiping down from the top of an Android phone. When discussing OxygenOS on the OnePlus 12, the hosts critique the styling of the quick settings menu as being less cohesive than previous versions.

💡OxygenOS

OxygenOS is the Android-based operating system developed by OnePlus for their phones. The hosts note how it was recently merged into Oppo's ColorOS software, but OnePlus still calls it OxygenOS to placate fans, even though the codebase is the same.

💡ColorOS

ColorOS is the Android fork developed by Oppo for their phones. OnePlus merged their OxygenOS code into ColorOS recently but kept the OxygenOS branding to avoid backlash, essentially gaslighting fans that it's the same software.

💡hasselblad

Hasselblad is an iconic high-end camera company that OnePlus has partnered with to tune the cameras on their phones. The hosts note the return of the Hasselblad branding and camera improvements as signs that OnePlus is "back" with solid phones again in 2024.

💡alert slider

The alert slider is a physical toggle switch on OnePlus phones that lets you easily change notification profiles between silent, vibrate only, and loud. The hosts were critical of OnePlus removing this iconic feature previously, and praise its return on the OnePlus 12.

💡Snapdragon 8 Gen 3

The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is Qualcomm's latest and most powerful mobile processor for Android flagship phones in 2024. The hosts cite its inclusion in the OnePlus 12 (along with other upgrades) as bringing the device up to speed specification-wise for a 2024 model.

Highlights

They reviewed the electric Rolls-Royce Spectre which has 260 miles of range and costs around $500,000.

The Rolls-Royce has suicide doors, is as big as a pickup truck, and has stars on the ceiling that occasionally shoot across.

The LED lights inside were purple and twinkled without flickering on camera due to high refresh rates.

The heated seats were better than any other car's and felt exceptionally nice.

The 2 inch thick plush 'carpet' made from lambswool was incredibly soft.

The suspension, steering, throttle and braking were all exceptionally smooth and gradual.

Shooting star effects on the ceiling can occasionally be seen on the doors too for $13,000 extra.

The vents were made of heavy polished metal that make a 'ding' sound when adjusted.

The paint colors like purple cost $13,000 extra for custom colors.

Instagram now supports HDR photos which can blast brightness when scrolling at night.

HDR should be opt-in, not default, to avoid uncomfortably bright images in dark environments.

Early renders of the Pixel 9 Pro leaked showing a very strange, blocky camera bump design.

The OnePlus 12 seems like a solid, upgraded variant of the OnePlus 11 with new specs.

The haptics on the OnePlus 12 provide a triple tap, shimmy feeling when clearing notifications.

The marble-like pattern on the green OnePlus 12 version was particularly appealing.

Transcripts

I don't know I think these companies are

just like we have way brighter OLED

displays now we should take advantage of

them and develop new technology that can

take advantage of it but I'm like it's

fun it feels buzzwordy like it's like a

feature thing at this point and what are

we going to do with all these knits yeah

we got all these extra knits what are we

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do all right what is up people of the

internet welcome back to another episode

of the waveform podcast we're your hosts

I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and

this has been

uary I'm just saying it true I have to

it's been so much more stuff than we

expected St trying to make fetch happen

all right I'll stop no no but someone

did suggest the name Jan you wear like

software or

Hardware okay better Oh I thought you

were going to say wear because there's

so many wearables but there's not that

many wearables yeah the AI pin is not

coming out yet yeah is that still a

thing do people still is that February

2nd so it's not January so there's maybe

I don't know why a great intro anyway

we're hosts I'm Marquez we I knew I knew

I said that already I don't know why I

tried to do that twice today we're doing

headlines in a hat we've done this

before uh you guys know how it goes

basically Andrew's got a hat here it's

full of a bunch of headlines and they're

all get at headlines cuz you hat that

you actually we still need to make this

an actual hat we need the headlines and

a hat merch that is a hat oh yeah okay

so a headlines and a hat hat is what

you're saying we should make one okay I

like that idea but the point is uh lots

of smaller things today and we'll

probably have different varying lengths

of things to talk about so we'll just

put them in a hat and and go through and

see what they are I'm excited who wants

to pick first I'll pick first I'll pick

first stare off why not I don't know I'm

just the guy who shakes that this is one

this is gigantic okay my headline and

hat oh this is my favorite one oh no no

sorry to the viewers and listeners I

truly apologize for what we're about to

talk about okay so uh Adam Adam puts it

in the slack a couple hours ago I'm

about to pass out the Verge posted Amy

is a

beautiful simple calendar app am i

e now if you know

me you know that I have a bit of a

weakness for I think toxic trait is the

correct term it that you know I like I

prefer to call it like it's something

I'm working on um but I saw this and I'd

never actually gotten to use it or I

don't think I've even heard of Amy so I

I clicked it and you can blame Adam for

this I immediately dive down the rabbit

hole Now The Verge article just looks

like a normal article and I'm like

looking at it reading about some of the

features looks pretty cool and then I

click the link to go to the

website and for some

reason it's an incredibly beautiful

website and I was immediately drawn in I

do have a huge we weakness for websites

that as soon as you click on them or or

applications that when you install them

it's just like you seen this website

look at this look at this website I'm

just going to for our video viewers you

can actually see what's going on but

there's like floating glass windows that

all converge into a moving calendar and

it's to-dos email and calendar allinone

now I will just preface this I don't

want to waste you guys time I just want

to say like I've tried a lot of these

things and the core apps in my life are

my to-do list my calendar and my email

and one of the biggest promises that a

lot of these all-in ones make is

combining two or three of them so a lot

of times it's the calendar or a lot of

times it's the calendar and to-do list

so you'll be able to put tasks on your

calendar that type of thing but in order

to commit to one you have to decommit

from the two other apps that you were

using so whatever calendar app you were

using you don't use that anymore and

whatever tasks app you're using all the

systems you had set up there you don't

use that anymore you have to hope all

those features are in this hybrid app

yeah I haven't tried Amy yet but that's

the number one thing I'm concerned about

going in is I don't know if the to-do

list features are going to be as robust

as what I currently use with tick tick

and I don't know if all the CER features

are going to be as robust as what I

currently use with notion calendar and

there's an email client built in which I

can almost guarantee isn't as robust as

what I do with superhuman so all of

these things have to have some sort of

extra advantage to convince me to merge

them all into one place there's also no

Android app and there's

also what cry there's no Android app

unfortunately and it also it's a

subscription so oh I have to really like

it and I'm going to try it I feel like

the day that you stop using tick tick is

the day Hell Freezes Over the day the

cybertruck comes out and the pro becomes

reality that could be I should probably

stop using tic te like now no I stop

using tic te once every two months when

I try something else like I tried one

called routine pretty recently I tried

one and that was that was tasks and

calendar but no email um and I tried

another one I'm forgetting the name of

and I try things like every six months

like there's a lot of it's called things

yeah things to doist app sorry yeah I

use both Google keep and Google notes

and there's no organizational what is

Google Notes oh sorry Apple notes oh

okay and Google keep I got scared no

organizational structure alarm app

anyone no I use clock I use keep I use

keep for taking notes during reviews so

when I'm driving a car or using a phone

as soon as I set it up I set up a new

Google keep uh note for that thing to

keep rolling notes of observations as we

go so that when I'm ready to write the

review I just dump it into the dock so

that then the new um cuz wasn't it in

the Galaxy Event there was the like use

your keep notes and it would organize

them and bullet point them and

everything no so I like that feature but

I'm not trying to switch to Samsung

Notes because what if the next phone I

review isn't Samsung was it Samsung

Notes or was it Galaxy Ai and then would

that work inside of I think it was

Samsung Notes I'm going to assume it not

like an overstructuring thing it's just

a bunch of AI features and a bunch of

different apps yeah Samsung Notes is the

specific like OCR and like handwriting

recognition and all that yeah yeah damn

so yeah I mean you have a first you

haven't downloaded it yet oh I have you

have oh you did yeah what do you think y

so I got it I I signed in I I I checked

all the boxes I gave it access to my

entire life you can give it your Apple

Health Data yeah you can give it Spotify

for some reason zo what no I I

immediately I didn't even read it I just

said yeah have it all okay I have a

question I have a question okay I don't

understand what why people don't just

use Google Calendar to move on with

their life I me what is it about

calendar apps that are better than any

other calendar app cuz every screenshot

I see of like every calendar app just

looks like every other calendar app I

did make the joke that the screenshot in

here just looks like what I see Marquez

using every day in this calendar app

that's a totally reasonable observation

calendars fundamentally all I'm about to

get okay oh I'm ready let's

go Adam's also a freak so any

AD no they calendars you can only

organize them visually in so many

different ways right it's time you you

have a week so you have to have seven

slots for your days like we kind of

figured out how to visually visually

organize your calendar sure but then

there's the actual UI for inputting and

managing and moving around in that

visual space so a lot of people just put

like meetings and like a couple things

they need to remember birthdays whatever

on calendars and that's all they put um

I know people who don't really even put

times or locations they just have to

remember that something happens one day

they just make it an all day event for

that day and they just know I am not

that type of person I need to actually

put the blocks out for time so that I

know because I have a lot of things

going on right so a lot of these

calendar apps aren't changing visually

anything at all what they're changing is

how you get about moving things adding

things subtracting things marking them

as done marking them as onto the next

one reallocating space sharing available

space for a meeting like all that stuff

that comes with this calendar thing

that's what they all try to mess with so

this one having email and to-dos built

in they're trying to convince me to drag

to-do list items directly onto the

calendar to commit to doing it at a

certain time oh so like when you go

through your to-do list it wants to add

that to the calendar and do that yeah

and when you get an email you want to

commit to doing the tasks from that

email at a certain time so you drag it

onto the calendar you can drag the email

onto the calendar yeah oh so that's a

New Concept for a lot of these hybrid

apps that there been a lot of these that

have been launching recently email apps

or calendar apps or task apps just keep

launching oh yeah and Google keeps

trying to like fin like mess with things

too to try and add some of these

features in it but the other thing too

is that Google is such a like the Google

Calendar app they're not going to mess

with that fundamentally yeah so many

people use it until they shut it down

until they shut it down eventually

inevitably in like 3 years but all of

these random little apps do you think

Google is ever going to have an

integration that shows when you listen

to Spotify why would I care about it's

just fun it's just cool what if I want

to know how many steps I usually take on

Mondays you look at your watch or you

could just look at your calendar check

out your calendar and it'll oh my God

nice little color gradient stuff like

that it's one of those things where I'm

like I get it's just a calendar app and

I kind of have that same sentiment but

then realize like it's the same people

who say like why do you need wireless

charging how long does it take to just

plug your phone pH and it's like yeah

but if you're saving all that time and

all those different times it does add up

and like it is convenient so maybe I

just need to try it I'm willing so very

funny funnily humorously they they just

announced notion calendar which just

came out this lastek oh yeah that was

and that was it's it's what did it used

to be called it was Kon yeah so you guys

just switched to that right it is the

same app just with a Rebrand I think

they got bought by notion yeah we've

been using Kon for a while as our

calendar so they just re they repackaged

does that feel better or worse than this

new one that you're looking at

um it's like asking a car Enthusiast

like does this car feel better or worse

there are things that I like about and

I'm very used to in KRON SL notion

calendar but I'm willing to forgo some

of those to try some new features that

this one might have okay cool you know

yeah yeah I like that all right well

yeah that's about all I got shout out to

my fellow calendar enthusiasts next next

headline all right oh that could have

been it I'm trying to for so audio

listeners can hear us

shaking that's me shaking all right okay

I can't believe I got this headline um

all right so New Jersey yes this is a

quick one this is local New Jersey news

um for all our Jersey listeners out for

everyone that knows I would argue it's

Universal I would argue everyone agree

to this everyone should should should

like this yeah's theine okay so I don't

live in New Jersey to be clear however I

do go to a gym in New Jersey here

because we have one at the office uh New

Jersey just made it a law that all gyms

in the state are required to have an

online cancellation

option now yes yes yes yes now this is

actually extremely important um because

in the United States at at least I don't

know in what if this is like a in other

countries but at least in United States

there are a lot of very cheap gyms that

are like $10 to $15 a month they have a

lot of random hidden fees like once a

year you have to pay $6 for some reason

and blah blah blah anyway you can sign

up online in like two seconds and they

don't let but they don't let you uh stop

your membership online you not only have

to be in the gym but you also have to in

many cases you have to like write a

letter as to why you need to cancel and

like send it by paral mail to the

headquarters

in which case they could just say like

we didn't even get it small story when I

lived in San Francisco the day I was

moving out of San Francisco leaving got

rid of my apartment I went to my gym to

cancel and they were like oh like the

manager has to be here and he's not in

today and I was like but I'm moving and

they're like yeah come back like what

absurd and so I ended up going back and

forth with them for like 4 hours until

they like made an exception but it's

like a horrible experience so the fact

that the New Jersey state government

issued this in one state is great I

really wish Biden would go after this if

he's going to go after Ticket Master but

you know just just throwing it out there

another big Jersey W served up fresh

just another checkbox for the greatest

state in the in theion wait but didn't

didn't the same guy say that Central

Jersey doesn't exist no no he put into

law that Central Jersey does exist oh

into

law not maybe not law but they changed

some like new maps that he tweeted about

it he tweeted about it sick TW about it

it's official baby yeah that's all we

need this needs to be the case all over

the United States everyone should be

able to cancel their gym membership

online yeah 100% the same actually I was

going to say the same amount of ease of

use as unsubscribing from an email

newsletter but it should be even easier

that is a pain sometimes if you just

don't click five of them it should just

unsubscribe you yeah David can you shake

that hat for

me oh thank you

wow does it affect at all which one you

pick I don't know maybe pixel 8 mint and

feature drops oo oh that's not the

headline wa bring it they're minting a

pixel 8 nft

yeah wait should it's that's called an

air drop not a feature drop oh my God

that just reminded me of this salop

phone 2 I'm not going to do it though

I'll be right back salop phone 2 do you

didn't hear about this no oh my God no

please no dude I'm getting tagged on the

regular for pre-orders for The salana

Saga phone 2 no way but does it come

with Bonk I bet I bet it has lots of oh

wow crypto related benefits to those who

are in those ecosystems I'm sure I don't

know anything about the physical phone

by the way nobody has tagged a single

piece of information about the phone the

camera is it better who knows the

battery is it bigger nobody's mentioned

that to me but they are quick to mention

that it has 40,000 pre-orders and crazy

you can pre-order now and it ships in

20125 it's not clear that it's a phone

yes says salana chapter 2 okay but if

you go down to the FAQ question number

four is is chapter 2 a phone and they

don't explicitly say yes oh my God can

you guys stop sending this to me please

sounds like you're going to get sent a

lot more it says how much will this

product cost become a top refer oh my

God this is why they the product will

fur will oh it's definitely going to be

an AI thing oh no rabbit R2 it's

definitely rabbit already selling to

salana it says this product will further

what we set out to do with salana Saga

which was to make crypto products and

services more accessible to the public

by putting web 3 securely in your hands

yeah it it doesn't say it's a phone I

bet this is definitely an AI a handheld

AI it is a non-refundable deposit I'm

going to get the nonrefundable $450 I'm

going to get the mint pixel i' I'd much

rather talk about thex is that already

announced this is at the bottom of their

website is my deposit refundable no the

mint pixel is announced yes really yes

the day before this goes live got it be

right back okay all right I'm back I

bring with me a phone here it is so hot

look at that col this is the minty this

is the mint colored pixel 8 8 Pro

actually uh we've seen this before like

mid cycle refresh new colors of phones

um this is the most OnePlus thing Google

has ever done because it's always yeah

the OnePlus would always three months

after the launch of the phone drop a new

color just to recreate hype for it and

it's been three months at at least it's

not a te like a pixel 8 T that's true

it's a it's an 8 Pro with a new color

feels so nice it is the satin same same

pixel we know in love and there is a new

feature drop associated with it so

there's a couple new things that pixel

is getting um but this is a new color I

think it looks uh kind of like a light

seafoam green type of thing yeah very

toothpast that feature drop was

basically everything that was announced

at Samsung unpack yeah you want to hear

the list yeah oh actually there's one

new thing yeah there is so yes Circle to

search Y is coming to the pixel 8 and 8

Pro which is kind of the same thing I

mean you can picture it already you hold

the gesture bar or the home button at

the bottom and then you can Circle or

tap whatever's on your screen I love

this feature I'm very happy it's coming

to the pixel the other thing is take

your temperature with the pixel 8 Pro F

approve we've all been waiting for it

you remember this feature there's a

thermometer app on the pixel 88 Pro just

the 8 Pro and it's been able to measure

all kinds of things Metals f bricks for

no reason whatever else you measure

liquids I guess um and they're adding

humans to the list so I'm guessing it

got FDA approved whatever they're

finally able to say that it can measure

your skin temperature around your

forehead I don't even know what

temperature I should be getting when I

measure my forehead well no if you're

doing it your internal temperature is

supposed to be 90 your core temperature

yeah so when you like when you do a

laser like forehead temperature it still

comes out as that correct like when

you're getting at the doctor's office I

never get it's never super accurate and

also everyone's temperature is slightly

different regular temper yeah but it

still should be around that 98 de right

I've never got an external measurement

that high my question is like we we kind

of have determined that a lot of even

smart watches are like very bad at

actually reading your temperature yeah

so wasn't it the only the thing that

they're mostly good for for like telling

if you're sick or like the uh the like

cycle maintenance stuff is like the

Delta between your temperatures and if

there's a ex stream off so the problem

is like you're not going to be ticking

your temperature with the pixel like

every day right so like how are you

going to know you won't really you'll

just have to remember what you usually

get and there's probably not like Google

Keep integration to keep a tab on how

many times you've measured yourself yeah

it's probably not going to be that

useful I think we should test to see the

update to see how much it's gotten and

if it's accurate and we could test it

against a real temperature it's kind of

like when we did the pedometer short we

could do pixel versus real thermometer

or something like that laser thermometer

core thermometer I'll try it pixel

thermometer I got I got to buy like a

regular mercury thermometer yeah the uh

it does I think I have one in my you

have a mercury thermometer perfect any

want to take a

Tempe still says a forehead infrared

thermometer should still be between 97

and 99 okay allce all right I guess I

just have a cool forehead they are less

accurate yes or because you just have no

blood flow the outside of your body like

the the surface of your body is more

likely to change depending on your

environment than the inside of your body

yeah everyone knows someone with cold

feet you'd never get 98.6 measuring feet

yeah yeah well that's the headline Min

minty pixel I like itxel wait what else

is in the feature drop thermometer oh

yeah there's two other ones I think

there's two others you want to hear the

other two photo yeah photoemoji

photoemoji allows you to transform your

favorite photos into reactions with the

help of on device Google AI That's epic

bad naming though photo Emoji makes it

sound like it's going to do like animoji

or stuff like that but I do like it is

this something you can use like in um

messages Google messages I imagine

that's the primary like reactions or

Emoji I think it's going to be an emoji

that moves in the message it moves yeah

like yeah there yeah stickers which

every phone seems to make a big deal

about dropping as a feature and I never

use them so I'm not even Samsung just

did that too yeah Samsung just did it

and Apple's already done it message yeah

I I my okay so uh my good friend Omar

shout out Omar if you're listening to

this is a uh he he's a visual artist he

mostly works with uh he does a lot of

different things but he does a lot with

pencil and paper and he was showing me

that for his work he uses the sticker

function um to uh SC take like SC scan

his sketches because he can get them on

a transparent background effectively and

then because it saves to a cloud Bank in

the messages when he he does it on his

phone like when he's on the subway

sketching and then he opens his iPad and

can take all of his new stickers

straight to procreate to collage them

and I was like cool and the cutouts are

really good because it's just pencil on

paper it can get the edges perfectly

yeah and it's it tends to be a pretty

good cutout that is like the perfect

exact use case I would expect to see in

an apple commercial and be like I know I

had no idea that was a thing people did

but that's perfect for that I know it's

and it syns across devices it's yeah

just like using Final Cut on the iPad on

the train yeah which people totally do

for sure yeah anyway the last thing is

Magic compose powered by Google's

generative AI technology magic compos

crafts stylized suggested responses with

the context of your messages so it'll

write texts back to your friends so this

is the same as the Gmail auto reply I

mean messages already have auto reply in

them but this one will have the context

of the whole conversation maybe how you

talk already so instead of I'm on my way

it's see you in a minute big dog

something I don't know I mean I would

just like it to just say like yes or

okay instead of the like sure thumbs up

that like everyone I accidentally click

on when like I'm trying to

respond yeah yeah we'll try it all well

let's try it all I'm excited let's take

a break we got a bunch more stuff in the

Hat I'm look at it over there it's still

teaming with exciting headlines so we'll

get back to headlines in a hat but

before we take a break trivia trivia in

a hat in a hat trivia in a

hat this like a cat in a hat like remix

first question usb OTG yeah the OTG

stands for what that's right I've never

even heard of USB when I plug my phone

in what USB you've definitely heard of

USB LTG I know that but I don't know

that you know what I mean yeah yeah like

I know that standard but I don't

actually know the answer I can picture

exactly where it shows up on my phone

I'm just trying to remember what it

stands for Adam would like it to stand

for Over the Garden Wall I wish oh man

if every USB device had an Over the

Garden Wall like option can I propose

something yes over the this is not this

is not multiple choice right ring not

multiple choice the r hole OTG is three

letters it is can we get one point no

per

letter available and you have to get all

three of them

right several one or two if I get one of

the letters right I'd be happy to get a

point

no okay all right well I tried I tried

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back back now y'all two hops this time

this time it's Andrew's turn to pick oh

twice in a row oh oh it's like a snake

draft wait is it your turn oh it is your

turn snake draft you go one two 3 3 two

one sure let's do that or what if Adam

and Ellis want to pull one out do you

want to pull one out I'm cool okay all

right snake draft it is snake snake

draft Disney arvr walking floor oh I saw

this yeah that's not quite the headline

and maybe as a headline that's like our

Tech version of the headline but there's

a video from the Disney

imagineering uh Department Department

thank you I don't know what that's

actually called um and they created this

like really cool floor what's Hollow de

Hollow deck floor Hollow deck floor and

like I'm sure you've all seen where VR

can we all agree that the most the thing

that breaks immersion the most in VR

games is walking okay I have I can see

where you're going with this and I know

exactly what I want to say go ahead say

now or you want me to going I can I feel

like I know where you're going okay so

like the old the old walking things that

I've seen and maybe there's some other

ones but it's kind of like you're

slipper you either need to teleport or

you need to use your controller then

there was the one where you're kind of

like it's called like omn floor or

something yeah it's basically a like

Dome floor and you have like slippery

things on your Sho and you're like in a

thing and you're and you're walking it

like pulls you back into the middle this

is like a bunch of tiles that somehow

couldn't they like change Direction by

how you're walking and then you walking

without going anywhere yeah and it can

like kind of move you around it's for a

bunch of other things as well yeah um

but it looks like potentially one of the

coolest ways to walk in VR it's kind of

a cool video they have like there's this

guy that works for Disney research

that's been working there for a very

long time just an inventor what's his

name Lanny Smoot that's a great name

yeah um he plays saxophone he also

invented that realistic lightsaber that

Disney Rec has been touting The Verge

just did an article on that today I

think actually yeah it's like a it's

like a telescoping lightsaber that looks

very realistic comes out slowly and

stuff uh but this hollow floor looks

very yeah yeah so I have two different

Siz comp not complaints

just question marks about it okay okay

okay one is you remember you were

talking about the thing where you're

like kind of there's something around

your waist and you can walk or run yeah

it feels like in a game if all you can

do is walk there's got to be some point

in the game where you want to run or go

a little faster and I just wonder what

happens on the surface I don't really

know they had some cool uh some really

cool interesting things where he's like

on a chair sliding around like all kinds

of other things I think that's really

cool and the tech is very impressive but

the other thing about VR and moving

around which makes some of these um

movement mechanics so difficult is you

also want to sync the environment

movement with your actual inner ear

feeling of movement so the reason why

teleport works so well is because you

just point at a spot on the ground and

you snap there and at no point do you

feel the environment moving while you're

not actually moving right because the

second you do that and you see movement

but you don't feel movement you're it

just that's how like the nauseating

feeling happens and with this it's like

super cool that you're actually walking

and you'll see movement walking in the

environment but your inner ear will

still not feel walking cuz you're not

moving

so forward is that if you're running on

a treadmill you don't get like ill well

that's because you can see that you're

not moving so you can see that you're

not moving on a treadmill and your legs

are fine but you can feel that you're

not moving and you can see it so it

matches in the VR headset you're walking

and you can feel that you're not moving

in your inner ear but you see that you

are moving so you still will feel but

how is this different from like the Dome

thing where you're like running cuz in

VR you're still moving forward that will

also be extremely nauseating have you

used that no but I guarantee you'll feel

the same difference H really yeah I've

used it before in that Dome thing and it

was not pleasant I think that's just cuz

the Dome thing wasn't good that's also

true cuz it was at like yes or something

that's the fundamental reason why it

feels like motion sickness like in the

games in VR where you're sitting in a

chair but you're moving through an

environment that also tweaks your

balance because you see that you're

moving but you feel that you're not

that's why it gives you motion sickness

MH so this doesn't change that but it's

still cool that you are like moving your

legs which I think is awesome we're

gonna have to put it to the test and go

to Disney and this might be a good

reason why a lot of AR games are more

fun to move around than VR games can we

just change our whole studio floor to

this so I don't have to walk slide me

across no matter how hard you run you

don't go anywhere no or the opposite it

can also just send you places like he's

using it as different examples too of

like I could see them using this in a

show or something like one guy's

pretending to move an Apple box around

the floor and it's moving the Apple box

around the floor I'm still don't know

what these tiles are exactly yeah they

don't really explain it at all it's

Disney kind of wild like it they kind of

like slope in different directions and

in this two people can be moving in

opposite directions which is wild um

it's I have seen like this

omnidirectional treadmill before that it

detects like the direction that you're

walking and it moves you the opposite

direction and it can go every every way

yeah and that sort of works the same way

um so this tile based thing seems kind

of weird maybe it's just because it's

more modular it looks like if you look

really closely it's like individual

spinning disc yeah was say on a log they

like rotate also or so they spin in

certain directions that you feel the

motion or it pushes you in a certain

emotion I'm interested also like how

hard you like how fast you can walk or

if there's a certain like I'm now

walking in the video they're all walking

really slow it's a very specific walk

but though I

I hope they keeping on it I do feel like

that would beol for it to like work

really well on a large floor that' be

kind of sick yeah I think the reason a

lot of people are saying this is like

the next step towards the hollow deck

which for people that don't know in Star

Trek there's like a room you can go in

that that's what basically like it's it

uses AR but like projections and also

like everything basically just turns

into the simulation of what you want it

to be and there's whole plot lines of

like don't get too lost in the hollow

deck you have to remember that it's fake

and it's not real life because people

can get lost in there forever and

they'll have the perfect world and they

don't want to go back to reality it's a

very early conception of like don't get

lost in VR your your brain will rot away

um and that real life is a little more

sad than the perfect VR world but you

have to deal with it but what if we're

already in the VR World Poss that's a

simulation Theory but but a lot of

people are saying this is like the next

step in it because theoretically if you

had like a lightweight like arvr headset

and you could go into a room that had

all these tiles around it and you could

walk around like you could be on a

mountain field you could be whatever you

could be walking around and you just

have no idea so it's just like

simulating anything for your brain which

is got it always fun yeah simulation I

think this would be cool I'm excited for

when VR despite your ear thing you're

talking about can walk I'm convinced

it's going to be more like what you said

Andrew I think the this is going to get

used mostly in like shows and like he

wasn't talking about just arvr I threw

in here because I do think that's cool

and we're talking about AR and VR a lot

and I guess mostly VR less AR um but it

stinks when there's a really cool VR

game and then the walking just

completely takes you out yeah you know

what I think this is going to be great

for uh oh all

right no offense I love your dog Adam

but picture this it'sing out your dog

15° outside you don't want to take your

dog for a walk that sucks slap these

goggles on your dumb dog throw them on

this thing they got have the best walk

of their life you remember have you seen

the

Vans these there's these like vans that

come around to people's house and they

have like a dog treadmill in it and they

put them on like a collar and they

just Sprint it's crazy how fast they're

okay so much money not have to do the

thing that they signed up to do okay

Niche next headline that I just picked

out of the Hat I didn't shake it I'm

sorry um pixel 9 Ren are already leaking

that was fast I want to note that is

January I also want to note that we're

not

surprised um only nine months away you

could have an entire child in the time

that it's going to be before this

product is supposed to come out so if

you want to have a baby at the same time

the pixel 9 is launching do it right now

um so there are renders of the pixel 9

Pro allegedly allegedly alleged renders

by links and my spart price as usual as

is tradition around here I don't know

what year it is because the same thing

happens every year um but they are very

weird looking it's a it's a like the

trend now is to make the front and the

sides of everything look exactly like an

iPhone flat flat front flat sides metal

rails but the camera bump once again

looks even weirder than last year once

again it is different because it not

sloped in to the rails according to this

that's my least favorite thing the

camera bump yeah I weirdly kind of dig

it it's a static

Island part of what makes the pixels

visor feel intentional yeah and even

they did it I think even better in

previous pixels but it's literally

because it feels like it's part of the

the well the in the pixel 6 it was two

different components which is what made

it look like something they just went to

together yeah but when they got it all

as one piece it looks so like it looks

like a good design it looks like this is

the way it was supposed to be one single

piece of aluminium yeah and like it's

one big frame and I like that and I feel

like this is backwards this new render

if you're on the video version you can

see this new render it looks like again

it's back to something bolted onto the

back of a flat phone yeah which is I

think that's why I don't like for audio

listeners if you've ever seen a xiaomi

mi band uh the Mi band is like this

little mod ual that gets put in this

little rubber band that you put around

your your wrist it looks like the

display of a xiaomi mi band that's just

bolted to the back of a phone oh yeah

maybe we should describe it was

something it looks like Among Us it

looks like Among Us that's it that's the

end of the story okay the last one was

like a Robocop Among Us collab this one

they've just committed to the bit yeah

it does have a giant camera they're

definitely still going for the visor

Vibe of it stretching across the whole

back of the screen but just imagine it's

in an oval instead of rolling over onto

the side rails now big pill yeah big

very but like very cut and dry it's not

rolling into the back it is a very hard

90° angle from the camera bump popping

amount of dust that's going to collect

around this ring is crazy they were like

we don't have enough dust on the top and

the bottom let's put it on the sides too

crazy yeah so otherwise it's an iPhone

um hope why is 2024 the year where

everyone is making the I like this flat

rails rule I'm happy they did they I I

agree like I like the feeling of flat

rails it's just it's kind of weird that

they're all so similar I guess I think

it's less weird that like they are

similar to The Apple thing and just

weird that Samsung and Google seems to

be doing this in the same year yeah like

people like phones are making the switch

all at the same time which feels and

it's not just them it's other

manufacturers too are there as well yeah

yeah yeah

but I think that the pixel 8 Pro was the

best looking pixel since the pixel 6

since they big redesign like by far it

looks the most like put together and

like single like pieced Alum body I'm

going a little bit back against the

rails best pixel pixel 2 pixel I said

sense pixel six since the new okay the

new eight by far looks the best yeah but

I have a thing for the the six visor

even though it was clearly not as well

integrated as the current one yeah I

think it's cuz it's glass instead of

metal oh cuz the whole thing is glass

and doesn't have the like cutouts inside

of actually this though kind of almost

feels that Vibe cuz all the cameras are

in One Singular piece of glass where the

7 Pro is two openings right it's like an

oval and a circle so this is like one

large oval and then you just have the

Flash and IR sensor on the like the what

is that the thermometer the thermometer

so is this still the thermometer in this

possibly nice possibly Google pixel 9

Pro thermometer confirmed well I don't

know if

that's that's it could be anything it

could be laser auto focus this is

also away and very much don't worry

it'll be on sale in like two two weeks

you'll like find it in a Best Buy true

flat rails flat screen anyway this is

super early uh we will confirm over the

next 9 months whether or not this is

correct and get back to you on that I'm

way more excited for tensor to get

better than for the design of the phone

well that's going to take two more

Generations before they switch to

tsmc all right let's get to our second

to last headline in top of the snake

draft could be

anything Marquez just turned around and

looked directly at me while pulling out

this thing and it was mildly

threatening it

says s24 uploads HDR photos oh no what

do you mean oh no

okay oh I didn't put the have you ever

been on

Instagram I have and then your eyes get

burned to Smither because somebody

uploaded a iPhone video that has hdr on

it photos you're just scrolling late at

night you're under your covers you're

minimum brightness and then bam that's

exactly how it feels that's the

difference just in audio is exactly how

it feels to your eyes yeah that's that's

a thing So currently uh before the s24

there was no HDR photo support on

Instagram only HDR video and that was

really only enabled through iPhones I

believe yeah but now with pixel Ultra

HDR and because pixel Ultra HDR is like

a standard and Samsung's like kind of

making it's like based on the standard

these are basically Ultra hdr photos and

now Instagram's supporting it um so now

you can be ambushed by photos yeah while

you're in low brightness mode just not

this is a hot take possibly but like I

don't don't think it's a good experience

to be ambiently scrolling at one

brightness and then not being able to

control when everything just gets

suddenly brighter it is weird and I

agree and I think we probably need to

have some sort of way for the for the

for the phone to tell if you're in low

brightness mode don't show me the huge

dynamic range of this HDR photo show me

an SDR version I think it should by

default show SDR and then there should

be a view HDR button

why have I never exp would ever press

but but You' never you've never

experienced this no like you've never

been in like super dim Lighting in on

your phone and then got into a video

that just blasts the brightness I don't

think so but it's not even it's not even

necessarily blasting the brightness so

so HDR like Ultra hdr on Pixel it's just

adding an additional tone map to the

jpeg to the the the jpeg um because

jpegs usually get rid of a lot of the

luminance data so or sorry the

chrominance data and then they add this

like tone map on top so it's the same

JPEG but with but with a luminance map

just like slapped on top and so so some

parts of it are super bright the

highlights and stuff are just way

brighter than usual okay if you okay

look I guess I've just never had like a

or maybe I just don't scroll in the dark

as this is an HDR video can you see how

like the rest of the UI looks just kind

of like gray out and darker yeah I can

see it actually the UI is not gray out

and darker but the video is just way

brighter okay there is small team okay

you got to give cut cleaner than you

think this is their fault this is

Google's fault this is this is Apple's

fault I just for some reason they've

just decided that Ultra HDR is something

that people want even Adobe is uh you

can now edit Ultra HDR photos in

Lightroom and Photoshop and it's like I

don't want to have to edit an image for

SDR and HDR like it's going to double my

my editing time if I have to make sure

that it looks good in both modes yeah

and there was nothing wrong with SDR in

the first place SDR is better it's not

sometimes this is actually a lot of this

talk is the same reason why I don't we

don't upload HDR videos to YouTube is

because it only looks good if the person

watching it is ready for HDR is watching

High brightness HDR content has an HDR

monitor and like watches it in HDR in a

lot of the other situations that file

will look worse if they don't have the

right monitor or if they aren't in an

HDR ready environment or if they're in a

dim environment whatever just looks

worse yeah so I just don't bother with

it yet I try to look make really good

looking SDR content that is more

compatible everywhere yeah and I was

just saying this the same thing on in

your gallery you can be swiping through

a bunch of SDR content and then swipe

over to an HDR video and the screen just

goes bam like that's you're here we are

HDR again that that experience of going

back and forth we kind of just have to

get to a point where HDR is everything

all the time but it won't be for so but

if we're not there it's always going to

be back and forth and that's tough yeah

dedicated cameras are not going to

there's a there's a button now in

Lightroom in Photoshop that transforms

SDR photos into hdr photos um but I

don't like it that seems tough so yeah

it's it's a processing thing it can just

it just like takes highlight details and

like bright them up and adds a tone map

on top but I don't I don't know I don't

know personally I'm just like I don't

want to edit for two different types of

displays all the time so I'm a little

old school SDR guy I guess yeah yeah get

with the times I

personally I don't know I think these

companies are just like we have way

brighter OLED displays now we should

take advantage of them and develop new

technology that can take advantage of it

but I'm like it's fun it feels buzzwordy

like it's like a feature thing at this

point and what are we going to do with

all these knits yeah yeah we got all

these extra knits what are we

do well now they know Instagram at hdr

photos yeah so only on Galaxy right now

is that true okay yeah well only

uploaded from Galaxy but they will

assault your eyes everywhere nice I love

it you all get to reap the benefits I

love it all right all right we should

take a quick break we've got another

headline in the Hat but before we get to

that headline and the break trivia

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trivia

all right so the world of storage

mediums is a world full of acronyms

we're familiar with the hits we know Ram

oh yeah know random access memories that

was an album and an act it is well

played it's a good we know ROM random

nope but what is ROM read only that's

what what is the acronym for a storage

that can be written a single time Time

by a user and cannot be Rewritten ever

again oh pen and paper a Scantron is an

example of this kind of memory actually

I think I know this perhaps by guessing

there's an acronym there is an acronym

there's an acronym for everything

naturally there's an neon for David just

best resolution audio video integrated

architecture yikes thanks

Sony oh Sony um all right wow you know

about this trivia question how it just

raised the energy in the room so

high we all started thinking just like

the people I just gave up immediately

yeah acronyms are a lot of thinking I

don't know this is a this is a good one

everyone everyone washing the dishes

just like stopped washing wait here's a

question do we need to know just the

acronym or do we need to know what it

stands for uh I was looking for the

acronym but why don't we throw a bonus

point in there you bonus point no I'm

just more okay can we know how many

letters the acronym is so some of us can

get maybe if some of people don't know

what it is they can just

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guess I think that's fair

no it's clear no one knows what it

is okay we'll be right back it'll be a

learning experience we'll be we'll be

back all right welcome back to the snake

draft snake draft I was the last one to

go but that means I go again because

it's because it's the snake draft top of

the oh you're right cuz

it's it's like a snake that was bad okay

all right we got two headlines left this

one oh this one says

rollsroyce spec we're being pretty

creative with the term headline by we're

just writing down things we like on a

piece of headline this one's not a

headline

chocolate no we reviewed the Rolls-Royce

the electric Rolls-Royce and that thing

is insane can we all go around and say

favorite part about it yes okay perfect

can I start wait let's just let me just

start with the fundamentals of what it

is okay so it's the Rolls-Royce Spectre

uh if you haven't heard of the

Rolls-Royce Spectre picture of

Rolls-Royce a gigantic twodo coupe with

a back seat it is fully electric it gets

260 Mi of range it's got about 550

horsepower and 600 PB feet of torque it

has all of the Rolls-Royce stuff the

stars in the ceiling the umbrella in the

door and it's $400,000

go you said gigantic Coupe that is

people need to understand that because

yes it is a coupe but that thing is hum

it's also really weird and awkward cuz

you the doors open backwards suicide

doors yeah they're suicide doors they

open like and then you have to like

climb into the back if you're in the

back seat but it's a fulls siiz back

seat it's big yeah so it's weird it's

like it's like usually those back seats

are very cramped but it's not for

context yeah the rivan r1t is 217 in

long that is a pickup truck with a 4ot

bed yeah the Rolls-Royce Spectre is 26

in long so it's basically the same size

as a pickup truck Jesus from front to

back okay wow so now that the

fundamentals are out of the way it's

electric it's a luxury sedan Coupe sorry

what did you like about it I liked that

we went to wa in it same you can put the

photo in there Adam um that about it

that was all you liked about it okay I

like okay there were LED was purple it

was purple that was cool in on the

interior there's these like little

twinkling LEDs that are all over it even

though that probably cost them like 15

cents it was still very pretty I hear

it's pretty pricey the LEDs yeah I think

everything in that car is pretty pricey

I mean they're nice yeah they're nice

they were high refresh rate LEDs too

because they didn't flicker with video

which is important the details are they

LEDs or are they H is this a dumb

question or they ftic I don't think they

were that's an interesting point but a

ftic would still have an LED in the back

what I thought they could have been is

sometimes people led folk nowadays will

put a phosphor layer on inside of the

bulb so that the El or the photons

flying off the LED excite this phosphor

layer and produce a more natural oh glow

don't know if they did that but it was I

don't think they did that I don't think

they did either but the thought crossed

my brain that's great I think the um the

heating of the seats was better than the

heating of any other seat that I have

heated before nice yeah that's actually

a really good feature for a luxury

vehicle it felt nice yeah okay what did

you like what you like about it I don't

know if the carpet is the correct term

for it the it's like 2 in thick plush

like I felt so bad getting in the from

the snow getting yeah there's snow and

salt and I know if you feel the same way

after hearing Lamb's W it was Lamb's W

knew I was like this feels like some

animal kind of fur yeah I feel worse

about it but wor it was so soft made no

sense of being the place where I put my

feet after walking in the snow although

I'm sure they weren't happy that we were

all walking in the snow and then going

into it um but yeah it was way too plush

to just be the cars

flooring it was pretty solid front and

back had that c yeah so you like the

Lambs wo mhm what did you like I guess

so you use the word soft to describe

that carpet I use the word soft to

describe everything about that car okay

the suspension was very soft steering

was very soft but most interestingly the

throttle response and braking are very

very glow gradual and soft so in uh in

your model 3 if you stamp the

accelerator pedal it'll throw your head

back and you'll get like a jolt forward

if you stamp the accelerator pedal in

this car it will flow forward it will

not throw your head back and the

regenerative braking which is one pedal

braking as well when you let your foot

off the the accelerator and it starts to

slow down it does this really smooth

sound smooth stop to zero yeah that

would be nice I did notice when we were

driving on it the New Jersey roads um

they should you know address that after

the gym stuff but the New Jersey roads

are notoriously poth holy and very bumpy

it did kind of feel like we were just

drifting you know on 23in Wheels it made

you feel like you're on a cloud I don't

know the difference but I would say very

impressive when you said it slows up and

slows down you said punch the

accelerator won't shoot you forward I

thought you would be like slam the

brakes nice smooth

Stu nice smooth right into the back of

that truck in traffic no you can break

hard you can break hard but I I like the

regenerator braking was super smooth

it's also the quietest car I think more

regenerative breaking should be smooth

like I'm still very surprised when like

you even have the opportunity to let go

and just slam forward if you're not used

to it I mean there's levels of smooth

but this one was extremely especially in

the last couple of miles an hour like

you know how you'll get to zero and sort

of like jolt back this one never did

that it would just slow down to zero and

you just that's nice arrive I love one

pedal driving because your muscle memory

like eventually knows how far you need

to just let off the accelerator before

you'll just like stop right at the stop

light it's a skill it's so fun to just

guess every time and you're always

correct it's great yeah you guys wrote

in it I liked that the vents for the air

conditioning uh were made out of either

like a Chrome plated brass or maybe some

sort of like polished tin but it's this

nice semi heavy metal that when you

flick it goes ding like

aamp felt fancy felt really fancy really

nice mhm my favorite thing and I

couldn't figure out if I was going crazy

or not until I got back and Googled the

hell out of it and I'm not going crazy

mhm the stars on the roof occasionally

they have a shooting star yes what the

whole time we were driving in it I was

just staring at it like what I know I

saw a shooting star I know I and I it's

a shooting star yeah didn't know Adam

and I went we were helping miles shoot

something in it and at one point Adam

just goes why we were still parked was

that a shooting star and we were like

what and he's like I can't I can't prove

if that was real or not it's like when

you see a meteor in real life and you're

like trust me it happened wa I didn't

know that that's awesome did you guys

know you can get uh stars on the doors

as well there was stars on the doors in

that one it was only 13,000 extra

dollars to get them

there how good is that I mean you're

losing money if you the paint how much

was the paint 10 grand the paint was

also 13 Grand oh my God sorry just the

purple part of the paint the satin

silver in the middle was 10 grand more

on top of that so the purple and the

satin together was 23 Grand more or less

yeah you could get a Hyundai lantro for

that price Marquez a you know that's

probably the second time you were

powered by a Rolls-Royce power plant in

the past few weeks what do you mean

because Rolls-Royce also makes the Trent

engine option on the Boeing Triple 7

that you often find yourself going to

the West Coast on that's a fantastic

point but I will push back the

Rolls-Royce Spectre is actually powered

by essentially the BMW i7s electric

power train so so rollsroyce makes well

actually actually the BMW i7s power

train is powered by the Model T no no

but actually though it's a it's the i7

has a pretty solid size battery and the

dual motor setup and all but the

Rolls-Royce is just putting a totally

different chassis and body and

suspension on top of that and it's very

Rolls-Royce and very quiet and luxury

and it's got this decoupled anti-

rollbar Tech where like one wheel at a

time goes through potholes and you never

feel anything and it's awesome but it's

an i7 under it only only weighs 6,500

lbow until this car has the CES Hyundai

IC 5 sideways crab uh tires I don't want

it all

right that's but when it and when I have

$400,000 yeah but when it does yeah yeah

which I don't yeah sorry it was 400

Grand starting we had like about 120

Grand of options so it was like 500

something you had three of my Foresters

as options options we had an i seven of

options I got here a little late that

day and there was only one spot left

right next to the Rolls-Royce and I had

to reverse into it that was terrifying I

just scraped the concrete wall on the

other side to make sure he didn't hit

the that's hilarious okay we have one

more headline don't we have one more

headline in the one more hat okay I'm

also pretty sure it's a headline in

quotes it's a mini headline wait is it

mine or is yours it's yours yours oh cuz

snake it's just not a headline it's just

a thing we want to talk about this says

the OnePlus 12 and 12r so some may know

that the one 122r just launched very

recently that's it right there he I've

seen that that's the 12 yep that's not

the 11

yeah just checking just checking yeah no

I I we've been testing so I've had this

phone for a week longer than I've had

the s24 ultra and we've also had the fex

7 uh Ultra and I've just haven't gotten

enough time to test all of them but I

want to at least mention this phone and

talk about it briefly M really good

phone um and I think a lot of people

will like it when I reviewed the OnePlus

11 a lot of

my my uh what's the word sentiment yes

was you basically said it I was just I

couldn't remember second letter a lot of

the sentiment was very much like OnePlus

is back they kind of straight a little

bit they got rid of the alert slider the

software went kind of sideways the

hassleblad thing was gone they brought

it all back and so OnePlus 11 was a

solid comeback and a good phone for them

this is very much an upgraded with a lot

of 2024 special version of that phone

yeah it's got a better telephoto it's

got the Snapdragon 8 gen 3 and it's got

that super bright like 25 2600 nits OLED

that we're seeing so often right so

those things like really bring it into

2024 and it's still got all the rest of

the stuff it's still got the software

the alert slider the hassleblad camera

all that good stuff that you expect from

the OnePlus phone yeah so it's a really

good phone I haven't made a whole review

of it because that's kind of where my

observations end and it didn't feel like

it was a whole bunch I have a lot to say

about a different phone we're reviewing

right now so that'll be a video but I

wanted to bring this out and at least

have that in the Hat cuz OnePlus 12 is a

good phone it is $800 which is a pretty

good price for a like that um they did

sort of they they are still sort of

using the Oppo ux UI which I don't love

and they merged Like Oxygen OS to be

what was the col so they merged them

together they originally just changed it

to be called color OSS a lot of people

got upset and then what they kind of

ended up doing was just on OnePlus

phones calling it oxygen OS but not

changing the software at all just so

it's just color just gaslighting yes I

think they were like our community will

shut up if we just call it oxygen OS

again which if you remember oxygen OS

only exists because of the Cyanogen

debacle which you should go watch our

episode on Cyanogen mod and the death of

the Android ROM uh

your but uh yeah so I don't know someone

on Twitter put up a comparison between

oxygen OS and the color OSS that's on it

cuz they flashed an old oxygen OS on to

it and I just feel like old OnePlus

oxygen OS had a much more cohesive like

brand identity a lot of the app and I

know that at the end of the day a lot of

this literally comes down to the app

icons and like the way that the overlay

of the Quick Settings menu looks and you

know it's not that a deal the quick

quick settings menu is a big thing I

want you to sorry don't interrupt I want

you to feel the haptics hold this phone

and hit that clear button and just feel

the haptics

is that good or bad I don't use I don't

use any Optics wait a minute it's like a

Oh I thought you were listening to dlor

Swift sorry no it was like a triple tap

yeah it was it like can I how do I I'll

load up another notification sorry it

felt like it like shook up the phone

yeah shimmy little shimmy really

Shimmy's up the phone it was pretty sick

I will say looking at the phone from

this angle the one thing I noticed is

that it does not look like an

iPhone it was you said it got all the

2024 new things other than flat edges a

great point Y it did not flatten the

edges um okay here so hit the clear

notification button

okay oh right it's like very precise

like I love that yeah and I felt it like

it felt like it was in three distinct

zones like a cat

purring I honestly you could make ASMR

out of good haptics on a smartphone

that's true we should

is it ASMR if you're feeling it and not

hearing it I'm sure there's another

acronym do any of us know what ASMR

means yes audio

sensory response it's like a feeling you

get from yeah it's scratching your brain

so the 12r is also coming out that is

$500 comes with uh last year's

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 instead of the Gen 3

um so it's a Prett I mean that's a very

good price it's a good deal you know wow

so there you go

I wish we got the green one the green

one looks the green one looks amazing

green marble type of I never thought I

would live in a world where Marquez sees

the Black version of something and say I

wish we had the Green version you were

very anti- green for a while I feel like

you're warming up to it so it's not the

green that's fascinating to me it's the

marbley pattern on the one that happens

to be green right if there was a marbley

pattern on this I'd be into it I like

green yeah it's like a camo type of

thing I do like the small little details

like the Ring of the camera module has

this little King that kind of looks like

a lens I like that and it has a little

hust blood logo next to it there so if

you have seen the Oppo Find X7 Ultra it

has many many of the same features of

the X7 Ultra just with a little bit

different body style but a lot of things

are very similar the extremely bright

display all of that kind of stuff um

yeah Optical so that's a thing yeah so

there's the review there you go I was

just going to say marz I'm putting you

on spot are we getting a review of this

thing or no I don't unless I mean we are

about to be spoiler pretty busy so it's

it's it's not likely that we'll be able

to get to everything we want to just

because of how busy we're about to get

but if if you must know I do think this

is a good phone like the purpose of the

review is for people to be able to

decide if it's good or if it's not good

This falls under good phone which I

think is a really good place to just be

happy that's a good phone so yeah

OnePlus 12 good looks cool good luck

good lucks good luck I was like wow yeah

this is great good luck everybody good

luck okay that's it for our headlines

which means we can the hat is empty the

hat is empty and we can take out the

whiteboards cuz it's time for trivia

trivia

dude trivia dude so quick update on the

score Marquez with 21 Andrew with 16

David with 20 oh I got to keep you on

your toes first question who carried the

one someone in my studio video commented

just carry the one and I was like come

on man give me just this they were like

carry the one gang and I was like it's a

movement I feel like that's just like a

secret code that shows that you listen

away for It's Kind like the thing or the

the Narwhal eats waffles at breakfast or

whatever it was I thought it was like

the symbol on your head no there was

like there was this in the early days of

Reddit there was like a secret phrase

that you would say to people in public

to see if they were redditors oh that's

and now you just lie about using Reddit

instead God Inc I think if I remember

correctly it's when does the narwhal

bacon yeah at midnight and then everyone

around you looks at you and goes like

this is the last time we're

inviting what did he just say what did

you say found the reditor secet anyway

first question yeah yeah usb OTG what

does the OTG stand

for not to be confused with ODB

legendary

rapper David don't look so

confused I always look

confused I may or may not have pressed

the button twice so it's a little longer

now don't worry about

it press it again no no

idea I'm so wrong me too and flip them

and read I'm hoping I got the one can't

even think of it I lost gu okay yours

looks like the digital rain from The

Matrix hear me out I wrote down all the

ones I think I know usbg USB is

universal serial bus that's correct does

he get a point for each you don't get a

point for that

I'm waiting for the OTG stands for

something transfer

something nope Universal I just wrot

over the over the over the what goo over

the hge Over the Hedge claimed 2007

Thriller um I put over the

Gateway no I both it over the the is

probably not I also wrote over but I

don't write that cuz David incepted you

with Over the Garden Wall that's true

it's actually on the go oh I knew that

USB on the go I knew that yeah get any

you guys both got

the okay that's true do we get a no no

we clarified that said no already

wouldn't you guys feel stupid if I had

given you a point for the no I would

take

it why what is USB on the go so it was

the okay I think it was like the first

version of USB that was the the first

like additional version of USB that was

announced after the original USB

protocol right that I don't know but

according to Wikipedia it was a

specification first used in late 2001

that allows USB devices such as tablets

or smartphones to also act as a host

yeah allowing other USB devices such as

flash drives digital cameras keyboard to

be attached to them yes okay this is a

big thing because like transfer devices

at the time like the iPod and that kind

of stuff they were like well these are

just portable computers so like why

don't we just allow you to store things

on on portable devices as opposed to

like only your computer at home can

store your stuff why don't we allow your

like iPod or I don't know whatever MP3

player device you have to just like have

stuff on it so you can bring it to

another computer and be the host of it

move it to that okay question number two

the world of storage mediums is a world

full of acronyms we're familiar with the

hits ROM and RAM but what is the acronym

for storage that once it is written by a

user cannot be

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god wow Andrew we're going to discuss

that answer later storage that written W

right only memory so close but wrong I

wrote ROM read only memory also very

close it sounds like you're just saying

that in baby talk I I'm going to zoom in

on David right now his face cuz I want

you guys to see his reaction when Ellis

tells him what it is stop the answer is

worm write once read

many right

once awes unfortunate that's that's I'm

so glad that we didn't get that right

and got that moment wait guys that's

better than getting it right I markers

down I like how much of a space there is

here for you but it's the wrong

space wow there is um read many so there

is a running joke in the tech community

that is wom write only memory because

the idea that you could write unreadable

memory sort of like like is it even

memory at that point you know true well

that's a great point I didn't even think

of that no but it is I think there's

actually a Wikipedia page that is right

only memory and then in parenthesis

joke nice it's kind of like the um over

Aven carrier yeah it's kind of like over

Aven carrier the request for comment for

IP over Aven

car car wow W that was we womo womo

when's the last time we got a trivia

question

right Andrew you you that's what I was

asking yeah oh my god well you know I

forgot about that it's not about the

questions you get right it's about The

Learning Experience the friends you make

along the way I I want to ask a question

do I get an addition a bonus point

because when I turn it upside down it

says the same thing let's discuss no the

space is in a different

spot

no okay and with that we'll wrap up way

for for the week thanks for uh joining

us for headlines in a hat if you have

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react to drop them in the comments maybe

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have other things to talk about we'll

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catch you guys in the next one peace

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