Did Playstation Pay Developer, Game Science To Delay Black Myth Wukong On Xbox Series X/S?

Double-Barrel Gaming
24 Jun 202420:15

Summary

TLDR视频脚本讨论了游戏《黑神话:悟空》在Xbox平台上的优化问题及其发布延期。讨论指出,尽管微软表示正在与游戏科学合作,但游戏科学并未回应。有观点认为,索尼可能通过金钱交易影响了游戏的发布策略,导致Xbox版本被推迟。同时,提到微软过去曾派遣团队帮助其他游戏进行优化,但对《黑神话:悟空》的情况则显得无能为力。视频还探讨了索尼和微软在游戏市场上的竞争策略,以及这种策略对第三方开发者和玩家的潜在影响。

Takeaways

  • 📣 微软和游戏科学(Game Science)被问及关于《黑神话:悟空》(Black Myth: Wukong)在Xbox Series S上的优化问题,但没有得到游戏科学方面的回应。
  • 🔍 微软发言人表示,他们对《黑神话:悟空》在Xbox Series X和S上的发布感到兴奋,并正在与游戏科学合作,但拒绝评论其他平台持有者的交易。
  • 🤔 主播推测索尼可能通过支付金钱给游戏科学,让游戏在Xbox上延迟发布,尽管没有确凿证据。
  • 💡 主播提到,索尼之前曾被微软Xbox负责人称为“狡猾”,暗示索尼可能在背后进行一些不利于Xbox的交易。
  • 🛠️ 主播认为,微软需要确保第三方开发者的游戏能够在Xbox平台上与其他地方同时发布,这是他们面临的一个挑战。
  • 💰 主播提到,索尼可能会通过提供资金或其他资源来吸引开发者优先考虑PlayStation平台。
  • 📝 韩国Xbox新闻在推特上提到,开发者/发行商在发布日期前8个月宣布了Xbox版本的确切发布日期,但8个月后仍未完成Xbox的优化工作。
  • 📚 提到美国法院文件记录了索尼支付第三方排除Xbox的情况,举例《最终幻想16》成为PlayStation独占是因为索尼的支付。
  • 🔄 微软在其他游戏优化问题上曾派出团队协助,如《权力的游戏:世界》和《博德之门3》,显示微软愿意提供资源帮助开发者。
  • 🎮 主播个人表示,尽管对这种延迟感到不满,但他仍然期待玩到《黑神话:悟空》,但会等到游戏打折时再购买。
  • 💡 主播建议微软应该在与索尼的竞争中采取更积极的策略,包括在竞标战中提高出价,以阻止索尼的独家交易。

Q & A

  • 《黑神话:悟空》为何在Xbox平台上的优化问题引发了争议?

    -根据视频脚本,游戏科学公司没有回应关于Xbox平台优化的争议,而微软发言人表示正在与游戏科学合作,将游戏带到Xbox平台。这引发了外界猜测,可能是索尼支付了费用来延迟Xbox版本的发布,以优先在PlayStation平台上推出。

  • 微软对于《黑神话:悟空》的延迟发布有何回应?

    -微软发言人表示,他们对于《黑神话:悟空》在Xbox系列X和S上的发布感到兴奋,并正在与游戏科学合作。但他们没有直接评论关于优化问题的争议。

  • 视频作者认为索尼可能采取了哪些措施来影响《黑神话:悟空》的发布?

    -作者推测索尼可能通过支付费用或其他形式的交易,促使游戏科学推迟Xbox版本的发布,以便在PlayStation平台上获得更长时间的独占期。

  • 视频作者提到了哪些历史案例来支持他的观点?

    -作者提到了《最终幻想16》和《博德之门3》的案例,其中《最终幻想16》是因为索尼支付费用而成为PlayStation独占游戏,而《博德之门3》则是微软派遣团队协助优化Xbox版本。

  • 视频作者对索尼的这种做法有何看法?

    -作者认为索尼的这种做法是“恶心的商业行为”,因为它违背了游戏最初宣布的跨平台同时发布的承诺。

  • 视频作者提到,微软在处理类似情况时有哪些措施?

    -作者提到微软会派遣团队协助第三方开发者优化Xbox版本的游戏,例如《权力的游戏:世界之路》和《博德之门3》。

  • 视频作者对于《黑神话:悟空》的发布延迟有何个人反应?

    -作者表示,由于发布延迟,他将不会在游戏刚发布时购买,而是等到游戏打折时再购买,以此表达对这种做法的不满。

  • 视频作者如何看待微软和索尼之间的竞争?

    -作者认为微软应该采取更积极的措施来对抗索尼的策略,例如通过竞价战来提高索尼的成本,或者通过提供更多的资源来吸引开发者。

  • 视频作者提到了哪些即将发布的游戏,可能会影响《黑神话:悟空》的销售?

    -作者提到了《刺客信条》、《星球大战》、《AOW》和《印第安纳·琼斯》等即将发布游戏,这些游戏可能会分散玩家的注意力和购买力。

  • 视频作者对于玩家在面对这种情况时应该怎么做有何建议?

    -作者建议玩家可以等待游戏打折时再购买,或者选择在PC平台上以更优惠的价格购买游戏。

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🤔 微软与游戏科学关于《黑神话:悟空》优化问题的回应

在这段视频中,讨论了《黑神话:悟空》在Xbox Series S上的优化问题。视频作者询问了微软和游戏科学对于游戏优化延迟的看法。游戏科学没有回应,但微软的发言人发表了声明,表示他们对《黑神话:悟空》在Xbox Series X和S上的发布感到兴奋,并正在与游戏科学合作将游戏带到他们的平台上。然而,微软的声明中提到不能评论合作伙伴与其他平台持有者之间的交易,这暗示了可能存在某种排他性协议。视频作者推测,索尼可能通过支付金钱来延迟Xbox版本的发布,尽管这只是一种猜测。

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📜 微软与第三方开发商的合作模式及其挑战

视频作者继续讨论了微软在处理第三方开发商游戏优化问题时的策略,提到微软曾派遣团队协助特定游戏的Xbox版本优化,例如《权力的游戏:世界之路》和《博德之门3》。此外,作者提到了索尼在与第三方开发商的交易中可能采取的一些策略,比如提供资金或技术支持以确保游戏首先在PlayStation平台上发布。这引发了关于游戏行业商业行为的讨论,以及微软如何确保其平台能够吸引第三方开发商,保持竞争力。

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🎮 《黑神话:悟空》发布延迟对玩家的影响

视频中讨论了《黑神话:悟空》发布延迟对玩家的影响,作者表达了对游戏延迟发布的失望,并决定将游戏从其必玩列表中移除。他提到,由于年底有大量其他游戏发布,他可能不会立即购买《黑神话:悟空》,而是等到游戏打折时再购买。此外,作者还提到了其他即将发布的游戏,如《刺客信条》、《星球大战》和《印第安纳·琼斯》,这些游戏可能会分散玩家对《黑神话:悟空》的注意力。

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💼 索尼与微软在游戏市场上的竞争策略

视频作者探讨了索尼和微软在游戏市场上的竞争策略,特别是索尼如何通过提供资源和资金来吸引第三方开发商优先考虑PlayStation平台。作者提到,尽管微软也在采取行动支持开发商,但索尼的市场领先地位可能使其在吸引开发商方面更具优势。此外,作者建议微软应该采取更积极的策略,通过提高竞标价格来对抗索尼的策略,甚至在必要时进行反击。

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Keywords

💡Xbox Series S

Xbox Series S是微软推出的一款家用游戏机,是Xbox Series X的低配版本。在视频中,讨论了Xbox Series S在游戏优化问题上的责任,暗示可能由于硬件性能限制导致游戏《黑神话:悟空》的优化问题。

💡Game Science

Game Science是《黑神话:悟空》的开发商。视频中提到,该开发商没有对游戏优化问题做出回应,而是由微软发言人发表了声明,这表明Game Science可能在与其他平台持有者进行协商。

💡优化问题

优化问题是指游戏在特定平台上的性能表现不佳,可能需要额外的工作来提升游戏体验。视频中讨论了《黑神话:悟空》在Xbox Series S上的优化问题,以及这是否是微软或Game Science的责任。

💡索尼(Sony)

索尼是PlayStation游戏机的制造商,也是微软Xbox的主要竞争对手。视频中提到了索尼可能通过支付费用来确保某些游戏在PlayStation平台上的独占或优先发布,这涉及到商业策略和市场竞争。

💡独占(Exclusive)

独占指的是游戏或软件仅在特定平台上可用,不提供给其他竞争对手。视频中讨论了索尼可能通过支付费用来获得游戏的独占权,这是一种常见的市场策略。

💡Game Pass

Game Pass是微软推出的一项订阅服务,允许用户通过月费访问大量游戏。视频中提到微软需要确保第三方开发者的游戏能够在Game Pass上同时发布,这是微软平台战略的一部分。

💡第三方开发者

第三方开发者指的是非平台制造商的游戏制作公司,它们为不同平台开发游戏。视频中讨论了微软如何吸引第三方开发者,确保他们的作品能够在Xbox平台上发布。

💡Baldur's Gate 3

《博德之门3》是一款角色扮演游戏,由Larian Studios开发。视频中提到微软曾帮助Larian Studios优化Xbox版本的游戏,展示了微软对第三方开发者的支持。

💡市场领导者

市场领导者是指在特定市场中占据主导地位的公司或产品。视频中提到索尼的PlayStation由于销量领先,成为市场领导者,这影响了开发者的发布决策。

💡Steam

Steam是一个流行的数字游戏分发平台,由Valve公司开发。视频中提到《黑神话:悟空》在Steam上非常受欢迎,是愿望清单上的游戏,显示了该游戏的高期待度。

💡优化团队

优化团队指的是专门负责提升游戏在特定硬件上性能的团队。视频中提到微软曾派遣优化团队帮助第三方开发者,如《黑神话:悟空》的开发商,以确保游戏在Xbox平台上的表现。

Highlights

文章讨论了《黑神话:悟空》的优化问题,询问Xbox Series S是否应受责备。

游戏科学未回应,但微软发言人发表了声明。

微软表示正在与游戏科学合作,将《黑神话:悟空》带到Xbox平台。

微软不能评论合作伙伴与其他平台持有者的交易。

讨论了索尼可能通过金钱交易影响游戏发布的情况。

提到了微软和索尼之间的商业竞争,以及对第三方开发者的影响。

分析了索尼可能通过提供帮助或资金来优先考虑PlayStation版本的游戏。

提到了微软派遣团队帮助游戏优化,例如《权力的游戏:世界之路》。

讨论了《博德之门3》的Xbox版本发布和微软的合作。

提出了索尼可能通过非正式手段吸引开发者优先考虑PlayStation。

讨论了游戏发布时间的延迟对玩家购买意愿的影响。

提到了《黑神话:悟空》可能的发布时间与其他大作冲突。

分析了游戏优化问题可能导致的商业后果和玩家反应。

讨论了Xbox Game Pass对第三方开发者的重要性。

提出了微软可能需要采取更积极的策略来应对索尼的竞争。

讨论了索尼的市场领导地位以及开发者可能的优先选择。

提出了玩家可能因为游戏发布策略而选择在PC上购买游戏。

讨论了微软可能需要在与索尼的竞争中采取更激进的措施。

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here is the uh part of the article that

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I'm going to read retim and it goes on

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to say uh I asked both Microsoft and

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game science to uh uh to comment on the

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optimizations issue

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uh uh seeking some clarity uh was the

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Xbox series s to blame question mark

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game science didn't respond but this

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morning a Microsoft spokesperson offered

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the below statement now this is where

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the rubber hits the road ladies and

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gentlemen and there is some

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figaz going on and the spokesperson for

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Microsoft simply said this we're excited

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to launch we're excited for the launch

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of the of black myth Wukong for Xbox

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series X and S and are working with game

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science to bring that game to our

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platforms and this is where I think they

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dropped it like it's hot Gams Ley we

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can't comment on the deals made by our

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partners with other platform holders but

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we remain focused on making Xbox the

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best platform for gamers and great games

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are at the center of that okay so I mean

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I'm not a three star detective uh and I

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can say that maybe someone will have a

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different opinion and that's great but

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what that says to me is because they

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simply could have said the first

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paragraph and been done with it we're

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working with game science we'll let you

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know when a re release date is happening

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but they didn't stop there gamy we

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cannot comment on the deals made by our

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partners with other platform holders but

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we remain focused on making Xbox the

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best platform for gamers and great games

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are at the center of that that tells me

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that this was another Sony money had a

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deal whether it be for a three-month

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block a six-month block a 12month block

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they paid game

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science to hold this game back for a bag

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of cash now is that what happened well

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maybe you don't think that maybe

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somebody in the chat doesn't think that

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that's what I think because Sony well

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you know it's interesting they've been

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called slimy by the head of X of M Xbox

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or Microsoft gaming uh and now we kind

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of know why this is another one of those

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deals now again I know I'm going to get

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people pushing back in the pack hey boom

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it's just it's it's just business and

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you are right it is just business but

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it's disgusting business because this

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was originally announced to launch

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across all

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platforms all at the same time time the

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game has been in development for over

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five years you cannot tell me that they

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did not have the specs uh in their

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possession for the series X and S and

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interestingly enough we cannot even say

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that they didn't get help from uh from

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Microsoft because they just said that

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they did so to me this is a load to BS

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let's get your hot

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take yeah so um this this is going to be

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the problem Microsoft probably runs in

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for a long time until Game Pass is uh on

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full swing um it's to make sure that

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third party developers are on their

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platform day and date that's that's the

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most important thing they need to make

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sure that all these games are on the

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Xbox

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platform releasing the same time as

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everywhere um it's going to be a huge

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problem for them only because we know

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that Sony is going out there um with

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enticing deals like going out there

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maybe in the background it looks uh

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harmless it's like oh look let me help

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you look have our team we'll help you

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we'll boost uh your visibility we'll you

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know send you I don't know we'll fund

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something for you just uh you know be on

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our platform first um I don't think

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that's I don't think there's a contract

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out there right now um basically locking

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them down by any means I don't think

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there

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uh making that deal in the background or

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else it would have just said PlayStation

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5 launch exclusive you know um if they

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did so they're doing something else

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they're I think they went there first

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they're helping the smaller

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Team PlayStation has the biggest console

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out there right now the teams are

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probably prioritizing the

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PlayStation uh version of the game it's

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been shown in court that's what they've

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been doing to like Phil Spen said look

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we're we're we're not on the top right

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now and Sony gets to kind of come in and

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negotiate um these unofficial

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things um and I think that's what's

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happening it's almost this handshake in

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the back saying hey look here's here's a

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help here's a team to help you we'll

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push you here focus on us because we're

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the biggest platform and so on and so on

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and I think Xbox was just left on the

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side

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um like they usually freaking are and I

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hate that that's a thing but right now I

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think they're just too small to uh that

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the console Market is just too small for

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these third parties to really prioritize

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at the same time if they are small teams

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and if they are lacking some sort of

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money or

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Tech and we could read between the lines

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Xbox sent out a team uh just like they

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did with Boulders Gate 3 but we know

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that Boulders Gate 3 Larry and Studios

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were weren't um paid exactly by Sony to

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exclude Xbox they were just having a

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little bit of issues and prioritizing

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other platforms first so that's what's

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happening here it's a laran studio deal

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all over again and that's I don't think

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it's an actual deal but that's unpopular

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opinion in A Storm of uh we want to

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shoot guns at Sony but yeah that's

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that's my take well I mean listen you're

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entitled to your opinion that's why we

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love having you on this particular show

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each and every week uh because we don't

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always agree but you know what we always

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walk away like brothers uh and we may

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have different opinions and you know

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what that's what's that's what great

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discourse is all about so yes sir uh and

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again I I like I like your stand I I

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appreciate your stand sir um fuzzy I I I

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want to bring in I want to bring you

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into this conversation because anyone

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that knows uh the uh Twitter uh site uh

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it's Xbox news for

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Koreans uh it's Korea Xbox news on X or

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Twitter uh and they were very busy this

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weekend uh very busy indeed uh now

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obviously they cover a lot of Korean

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news and well this team is from from

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Korea from what I understand right game

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science um and like I said they were

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very busy chat and one of their tweets

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which I have in front of me I have quite

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a few of them actually uh the one I want

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to open up with is this they say the

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developer/publisher announced the exact

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Xbox version release date eight months

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before the date but eight months later

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they won't have the completed uh they

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won't have it completed the Xbox

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optimization work that needs to be done

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please let me know if there's another

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game in video game history like this

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like this particular case my Common

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Sense tells me that in order to announce

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such an exact release date for all

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platforms all versions must already be

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fairly complete now that makes a whole

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mess of sense to me well that's not the

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only tweet that they

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had they also add uh FYI it's already

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been documented in US court filings that

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Sony pays third party to exclude Xbox

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and they provided the actual document

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where it says previous versions of Final

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Fantasy shipped on Xbox but the reason

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that Final Fantasy 16 is a PlayStation

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exclusive is because Sony paid to

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exclude Xbox that's in the court

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documents but that's not where it ends

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because I have another tweet and let me

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just pull that up right here they go on

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to bring up two particular points and

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cases uh how Microsoft reacts when an an

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anticipated game for Xbox has

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optimization issue and they have two

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particular games where Microsoft

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actually sent the series s team to get

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this stuff done one of which is the it

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came the way of Po world uh on Xbox's

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part is according to PO World we're

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working with pocket pair to help Provide

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support for Xbox versions of the

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game we're providing support to enable

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dedicated servers offering engineering

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resources to help with the GPU and

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memory optimizations speeding up the

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process to make power world updates

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available for players and working with

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the team to optimize our title for the

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platform but that's not where it ends it

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also goes on to bring up uh the point

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where you just mentioned it uh gamley

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boldar Gate 3 and Xbox specifically

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tweets this in partnership with the

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talented people at Laman Studios we're

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thrilled to share boldar Gate 3 will be

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coming to Xbox later this year stay

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tuned for more details and of course it

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goes on to say to answer some questions

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we're getting we'll continue to work

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with larryan to explore an additional

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split screen for the Xbox series s post

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launch now they sent the team there as

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well again different opinions it's fine

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this is one of those at least for me

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disgusting moves by Sony and what this

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ultimately does for me

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I'm not boycotting the game I cannot

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wait to play black myth W Kong because

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of a couple reasons one it looks dope

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two it's a lore that Mrs boom and I

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really appreciate and enjoy and three it

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is more action-based than it is soul so

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that has me very excited all right but

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considering of where this game could

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potentially land let's just say for

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shits and giggles chat that this game is

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a three Monon delay and doesn't land

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until December well it's a game that a

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now I'm not buying now I'm not giving

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them my money because well Indiana Jones

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is g to be out in probably December I'm

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still gonna be playing a vow I'm still

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going to be playing a bunch of other

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games that are coming out that are not

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Xbox exclusives but are going to be a

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part of the release of the year you know

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you have the new Assassin's Creed you

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got the new Star Wars there is a whole

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mess of games coming out between now and

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the end of the year this releas is in

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August you have a winner winner chicken

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dinner at least for me because at least

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a vow is not out right because that's

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supposedly dropping in October uh you

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have you're probably gonna I mean again

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Indiana Jones could be November for all

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we know but you got you got call duty in

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October as well you also have Indiana

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Jones for me ladies and gentlemen this

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gets put on the pay no mine list I'll

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buy it when it's on sale and maybe it's

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me being a dick I don't know but all I

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know is that it's coming out in a time

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where I'm personally I don't have as

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much time as many other Gamers because I

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produce five live shows a week and I

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still run a household so I try to get

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gaming in there in the middle and this

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game has now been taken off the the must

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playlist because of this delay now is it

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because I'm being vanic no it's because

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there's too much to play and I'd rather

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play the other games than play this like

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am I gonna play this over Star Wars or

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Assassin's Creed or AOW or Indiana Jones

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the answer is no I will not so now

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they've lost a sale um and I I'm gonna

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go buy it but I'm not buying it for full

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boat I'm gonna buy it when it's on sale

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I'm gonna get it at the end of the year

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uh and and you know get that end of the

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year save 20 bucks kind of a deal let's

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let's get your thoughts on uh what

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happened with this

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game I'm kind of torn on on a couple of

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levels of this and I have to give a

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shout out to PA as far as putting it in

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a a way as far as how this could have

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been a deal but not necessarily a deal

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and we've kind of seen something similar

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with kalista protocol but amazingly that

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team released the game on time or at the

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same time it's just that it was missing

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a few features that seemed a little odd

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like mirror Reflections and things like

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that but one of the things

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that I I kind of give the side eye to

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Xbox but then again they're a platform

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they can't be sending you know know a a

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Dev team of ninjas to every Studio that

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can't figure out the series s or can't

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figure out how to uh you know optimize

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for their platform um but then again

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this was a game that was the most

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wishlisted game on Steam for a while so

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that's one of those they may have sort

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of kind of nudged uh a little bit closer

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uh just so they don't have another

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balers gate type of situation not saying

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that it was guaranteed to be a game of

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the year but it does have a lot of

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attention it does have a lot of eyes and

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has been exciting gaming fans for you

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know the past three or four years at

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least um but the the thing that Sony

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tends to do although it may not be a

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deal as far as marketing or having the

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exclusivity is that they will go to a

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team like especially a team that may

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have some veterans on it but it's a new

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studio they're new to producing a game

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on that platform Sony is willing to say

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you know this is a game that our our

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player base likes let's go ahead and

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intervene and say hey what's the

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timeline on this game releasing because

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before the announcement like eight

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months prior where it was announced that

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it was coming to consoles andp was going

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to be a PC release and then maybe

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eventually come to console but what

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PlayStation would tend to do or what's

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more likely in their their you know

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thought process is send a team so that

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way it can release the same time as

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PC maybe that's a way of excluding Xbox

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to some extent maybe it's another way of

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looking at it to not have their console

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you know be on the the secondary Cadence

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as opposed to PC launch so if they're

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sending additional help or resources

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money cash

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whatever that's their way of of playing

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kind of the dirty behind the scenes game

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of keeping stuff on their platform or at

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least making sure ensuring that it's

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going to be on their platform in a

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timely manner um whether that the case

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or if it is more scrupulous where Sony

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kind of paid money to prioritize their

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their uh platform or if it's just the

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studio looking at the PlayStation player

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base being that they sold a 100 you know

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million consoles uh or more than 100

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million of the PS4 and they're on their

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way to 50 or 60 million for the PS5

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they're like well yeah we could probably

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stand a better chance of getting more

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sales on that larger base not that Xbox

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is that far behind like if I'm

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understanding it's somewhere in the 40

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million range on these current series of

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consoles if not more by now but whatever

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case a lot of devs seem to prioritize

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PlayStation because of it being the

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market leader as as it so as it states

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in console sales but for me I wasn't

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planning on buying this one console

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anyway just these types of games that

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are not a first-party type of game I've

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now kind of pushed to buying those on PC

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as an option because I have that option

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um it makes it easy if I should choose

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to play this on a portable or a handheld

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like a steam deck that I already own it

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makes it a little bit easier or I could

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play it on my my desktop PC but um I I

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think the bigger thing now is Xbox

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should probably play the same game and

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one of the things I I said on like Xbox

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ultimate on Friday is they're now and

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we're going to get into the whole FTC

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thing it looks like they're at the light

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at the end of the tunnel even though

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Technically when they closed the deal

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they were at the end of the tunnel but

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as far as the the noise and the the

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drama and the the background with the

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FTC since they seem to be clearing a lot

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of that I would say play the bidding war

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with Sony so if it's the case that

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they're doing these slimy tactics make

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it more expensive for them each and

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every time and just for example sake if

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we look at back at like GTA 4 when it

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first released originally it was

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supposed to be a PS4 exclusive but

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Microsoft paid a counter offer that

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counter offer also guaranteed that they

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got the DLC that PS3 didn't get so

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there's ways that they could play this

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game Sony's bank is only but so big and

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it's not to say that Microsoft needs to

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you know go to their coffers of you know

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King Microsoft to to be able to you know

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play this game but some of the profits

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that Microsoft or that Xbox is making in

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itself as its own entity are enough to

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play this game maybe not toe for toe in

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every case with Sony but definitely make

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it more expensive especially while they

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seem like they want want to focus on

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movie theaters and and non-gaming

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related things I I think this is the

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better time to strike and kind of you

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know throw your weight around that you

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have at this moment especially with

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things like Call of Duty in your pocket

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to make it so let's say you know

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normally if if PlayStation was going to

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get the marketing rights for a game like

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this or even Grand Theft Auto B three to

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five million higher and keep on playing

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that game until either you won win it or

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two you you know make them spend

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probably an extra 20 million that they

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don't really want to part with that's

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going to eventually take away from their

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first party but that's a whole another

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way to look at it but for me I'm still

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going to wind up getting this on CD Keys

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you know on Steam get it out a discount

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cheaper than what it goes for retail on

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Steam and um play it that way but it it

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is not a good look for that studio to

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kind of allow these things to happen

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you you know as we get into this

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transition in this generation into the

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next where there could be a toppling of

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the market leader I I I would say you

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don't want to necessarily be on the bad

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side of Microsoft or Xbox at this point

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in time uh so whatever they got to do to

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get that thing as close to August

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release I think would be in their best

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interest but I either way you look at it

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it Microsoft needs to play the same dirt

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behind the scenes in some cases maybe

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they don't want want to get their

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clothes dirty or whatever but I I think

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at this point since the FTC is less

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likely to scrutinize every move you make

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I think it's time to play a little of

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these games I mean Matt booty said it in

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an email we need to spend about of

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business kind of thing show show some of

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that same uh fire and maybe make Sony

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regret some of these types of you know

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sending Dev teams out early just to

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guarantee or have a prioritize for for

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PlayStation and see how they enjoy that

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aspect fact

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