'I'm Tired Of This': Ralph Norman Admonishes Jerry Nadler During Tense Exchange At Hearing

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17 Jun 202409:58

Summary

TLDRIn a heated congressional debate, a South Carolina representative criticizes the opposition for using 'smoke screens' and diverting attention from the main issue, which is the alleged withholding of audio tapes related to a case involving Hunter Biden. The speaker expresses frustration over the lack of transparency and accuses the Department of Justice of delaying the release of these tapes. The debate also touches on the legitimacy of trials and the potential consequences for non-compliance with subpoenas, with an underlying tension over executive privilege and the integrity of the judicial process.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“œ The speaker expresses frustration with perceived 'smoke screens' and diversions from the main topic of discussion, which seems to be related to a video and its associated transcript.
  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš–๏ธ There is a mention of a trial of Donald Trump, where the speaker criticizes the judge involved as being biased, and the context suggests a contentious political climate.
  • ๐Ÿ” The speaker raises concerns about Hunter Biden, mentioning gun charges, financial dealings with China, and art transactions, indicating a broader investigation or controversy.
  • ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ The script includes a debate about the legitimacy and authenticity of a transcript and an audio tape, with accusations of tampering or withholding of evidence.
  • ๐Ÿ›๏ธ The Department of Justice (DOJ) is implicated in the handling of the investigation and the audio tape, with one character, Mr. Her, being highlighted as the investigator.
  • ๐Ÿ“ There is a discussion about the process of subpoenas and document production, with the DOJ being criticized for not meeting deadlines and for incomplete document submissions.
  • ๐Ÿค” The speaker questions the existence and integrity of the audio tape, suggesting that it may have been destroyed or altered, and there is a call for its release.
  • ๐Ÿšซ The assertion of executive privilege by the president is mentioned as a reason for not releasing the audio tape, with a suggestion that this is being contested.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ The script outlines a timeline of events and correspondence between the committee and the DOJ, indicating a back-and-forth over the production of the requested materials.
  • ๐Ÿ›‘ The speaker anticipates a vote on the committee and possible consequences for the Attorney General, suggesting a potential legal or political showdown.
  • ๐Ÿ“ข There is mention of major news outlets suing for access to materials that are being withheld, indicating a high level of public and media interest in the case.

Q & A

  • What is the main issue being discussed in the transcript?

    -The main issue is the controversy surrounding the release of a transcript and an audio tape, which some believe may have been altered or is being withheld from the public.

  • Who is Mr. Her in the context of the transcript?

    -Mr. Her appears to be a reference to an investigator involved in a case, possibly appointed by Mary Garland, and is associated with the Department of Justice.

  • What is the significance of the term 'smoke screens' in the transcript?

    -The term 'smoke screens' is used to describe the perceived diversionary tactics used by the opposing side to distract from the main issue at hand, which is the release of the audio tape and transcript.

  • What is the role of Mary Garland in this discussion?

    -Mary Garland is mentioned as the person who appointed Mr. Her to conduct an investigation and is believed to have possession of the audio tape in question.

  • Why is there a concern about the authenticity of the audio tape and transcript?

    -There is a concern that the audio tape and transcript may have been altered or are being withheld, and that the Judiciary Committee has previously been accused of altering audios.

  • What is the connection between the discussion of Hunter Biden and the main issue?

    -The mention of Hunter Biden seems to be a diversion from the main issue, as the speaker argues that the focus should be on the audio tape and transcript, not on unrelated matters.

  • What does the speaker mean by 'the Administration is lawless when it comes to obeying the law'?

    -The speaker is accusing the current administration of not following legal procedures or respecting the rule of law, particularly in the context of the release of the audio tape and transcript.

  • What is the significance of the mention of executive privilege in this context?

    -Executive privilege is being asserted by the president, which may be preventing the release of the audio tape. The proper way to dispute this claim is through the courts, not through a contempt citation.

  • What is the timeline of events described in the transcript?

    -The timeline includes a request for documents and communications, responses from the Department of Justice, subpoenas issued, and the DOJ's failure to meet deadlines for providing the requested materials.

  • What is the potential consequence for not complying with the subpoenas?

    -The potential consequence for not complying with the subpoenas could be a vote of contempt of Congress, which may lead to legal repercussions such as jail time.

  • Why does the speaker mention Richard Nixon in the context of this discussion?

    -The mention of Richard Nixon is to draw a historical parallel where once a transcript was released, it could not be claimed as privileged, suggesting that the current situation should be handled similarly.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ˜ค Frustration Over Smokescreens and Executive Privilege

The speaker expresses frustration with perceived smokescreens and distractions during a debate, possibly about a political trial or investigation. They criticize the other side for bringing up unrelated issues, such as the trial of Donald Trump and allegations against Hunter Biden, instead of focusing on the main issue, which seems to be a video involving Hunter Biden. The speaker also questions the authenticity of a transcript and the existence of an audiotape, suggesting that the Department of Justice and an individual named Mary Garland are withholding evidence. There is a discussion about executive privilege being asserted by the president, and the proper legal channels to contest it, indicating a complex legal and political situation.

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๐Ÿ“œ Timeline of Document and Audiotape Request Dispute

This paragraph outlines a detailed timeline of events concerning a request for documents and audiotapes, which were not fully complied with by the Department of Justice (DOJ). The speaker recounts a series of correspondences and deadlines, highlighting the committee's efforts to accommodate the DOJ and their disappointment with the lack of full compliance. The speaker also raises the question of consequences for non-compliance, hinting at potential legal actions against the Attorney General, Merrick Garland. There is a mention of a declaration by a DOJ official confirming the accuracy of interview transcripts, but the speaker dismisses this as a potential cover-up, insisting on the need to release the original audiotapes for public scrutiny.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กPrivilege

In the context of the video, 'privilege' refers to the legal right of the president or other high officials to withhold certain information from disclosure, especially in legal proceedings. It is a central theme as the speaker discusses the assertion of executive privilege in relation to withheld audio tapes, suggesting a conflict between transparency and the protection of sensitive information.

๐Ÿ’กSmoke screens

The term 'smoke screens' is used metaphorically in the script to describe diversionary tactics or attempts to distract from the main issue at hand. The speaker accuses the opposing side of using 'smoke screens' to avoid discussing the core issue of the audio tapes and transcripts, indicating a perceived lack of transparency or honesty.

๐Ÿ’กExecutive privilege

This concept refers to the right of the president and other high-level executive branch officials to withhold information from Congress, the courts, and the public. In the script, it is mentioned as the reason for not releasing the audio tapes, which is a point of contention in the debate over transparency and the rule of law.

๐Ÿ’กTranscripts

Transcripts are written versions of spoken language, typically used for legal or official records. The script discusses the release of transcripts as opposed to the original audio tapes, suggesting concerns about authenticity and the potential for alteration or omission of content.

๐Ÿ’กAltering

The term 'altering' in the script refers to the potential manipulation or modification of the original audio tapes. It is a point of concern for the speaker, who questions the integrity of the audio if it has been altered and whether the public is being deceived by an inaccurate representation of events.

๐Ÿ’กContempt of Congress

Contempt of Congress is a legal charge for refusing to comply with a subpoena or to testify before Congress. The script mentions the possibility of the Attorney General facing contempt charges for not producing the audio tapes, highlighting the severity of the situation and the potential legal consequences.

๐Ÿ’กAudio tapes

The 'audio tapes' are the central piece of evidence discussed in the script. They are the subject of a subpoena and are withheld under claims of executive privilege. The speaker is concerned about their existence, authenticity, and the reasons behind their non-disclosure.

๐Ÿ’กMerrick Garland

Merrick Garland is the current Attorney General of the United States. In the script, he is mentioned in relation to the handling of the audio tapes and the potential legal consequences of not complying with the subpoena, indicating his role in the ongoing dispute.

๐Ÿ’กSubpoenas

A subpoena is a legal document that compels someone to testify in a court or produce evidence. In the script, the issuance of subpoenas to Garland for the audio tapes and the subsequent non-compliance are discussed, emphasizing the legal mechanisms at play in this situation.

๐Ÿ’กAppeal

The term 'appeal' in the script refers to the legal process of seeking a higher court's review of a lower court's decision. It is mentioned in the context of a trial involving a public figure, suggesting that the legitimacy of the trial and its rulings may be subject to further judicial scrutiny.

๐Ÿ’กLegitimacy

Legitimacy in the script pertains to the validity and acceptability of legal processes and decisions. The speaker questions the legitimacy of the trial and the handling of evidence, indicating a broader concern about the fairness and integrity of the justice system.

Highlights

Privilege was asserted with compliance and the speaker yields back, addressing the gentleman from South Carolina.

The speaker criticizes the other side for using smoke screens and bringing up the trial of Donald Trump.

Concerns about Hunter Biden's gun charge and financial dealings, including money from China and paintings.

The speaker expresses frustration with the lack of discussion on the actual topic and the use of smoke screens.

Miss Hagerman raises the issue of trusting the authenticity of the transcript and the irrelevance of the audio.

The speaker questions the Administration's lawfulness and their attempts to prevent the public from seeing a video.

Discussion about the existence of the audio tape and who has it, implicating Mary Garland.

Concerns about the potential destruction or alteration of the audio tape.

The speaker hopes that the audio tape still exists and has not been destroyed or tampered with.

Mr. Comr Mr. N asserts that there is no reason to believe the tapes don't exist and discusses executive privilege.

The speaker points out that Hunter Biden was tried and convicted by a jury of his peers, not the subject of the current discussion.

The speaker criticizes the Judiciary Committee for potentially altering audios and producing fake versions.

Miss Can responds to the accusation, stating it is untrue and expressing embarrassment at the situation.

The speaker outlines a timeline of events regarding the request for documents and communications, including videos.

The Department of Justice's response to the request and the subsequent subpoenas issued to Garland.

The committee's notification of an inadequate production of documents and the extension offered to the DOJ.

The DOJ's failure to meet the committee's deadline and the subsequent response from the committee.

The speaker speculates on the consequences for Garland if he does not comply with the subpoenas.

The speaker emphasizes the importance of audio evidence and the need for its release to the public.

Transcripts

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privilege was asserted with compli and I

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yield

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back sure thanks again L and Lady yields

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back the gentleman from South Carolina

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is

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recognized you know I've sat here for

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what two hours probably going to be

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three or four you know and listen to

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these smoke screens that my friends on

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the other side of the aisle are saying

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they bring up the trial of Donald Trump

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convicted felon really by by a judge

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that is a known anti-trumper you bring

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out you bring out Mr natal I've got the

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floor if if you're going to interrupt Mr

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chairman call him down when he

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interrupts it's my time and then I'll

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let you respond but I'm tired of this

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you you talk over everybody it's so rude

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of you but he look you bring up the

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smoke screen of Hunter

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Biden uh I think we're here to talk

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about a video Hunter Biden uh it is kind

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of you know strange a gun charge what

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about the L fake llc's that he's gotten

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money from China what about the fake the

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the millions he got in paintings we

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don't know who contributed to him what

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about um I mean you can name a lot of

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other charges but we're not talking

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about that and I'm tired of these smoke

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screens you talking about the

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miscarriage of Justice it really is uh

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and Miss Hagerman you bring up a very

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good point the fact that uh we're to

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trust what what they

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say that the transcript is real and the

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the audio has no bearing on it I don't

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understand as as uh our chairman said

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they're putting up a

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fight to prevent the American people

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from seeing hearing the video and using

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these lame excuses about altering that

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Jordan altered some some tape somewhere

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I don't know how you alter a a audio

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tape uh can you tell me who has got the

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audio tape and I think the chairman had

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a valid point do they still exist this

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Administration is lawless when it comes

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to obeying the law what I can say is

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that the information was gathered by Mr

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her being the uh the the investigator in

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this through the Department of Justice

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and that's why the action has been

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brought against Mary Garland because

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Mary Garland is the one that has the

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audio tape as my understanding now I

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could be corrected on that but that has

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been my assumption because he was the

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person who appointed Mr her to conduct

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this investigation and I believe that

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the report was directed to him so that

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has been my assumption throughout this

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that they would have the the audio tape

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and uh uh they've released they released

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the transcript so if he doesn't have it

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or if he's destroyed it that's that's a

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serious or if they altered or omit or or

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whatever they do with it but are you

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comfortable I are you feel were you or

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Mr com do y'all feel the tape still

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exist because they're going to a big

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extreme to defer and try to prevent the

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American people to from hearing it well

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all I can say on their behalf is I sure

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hope

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so Mr comr Mr n I'll get I I'll get to

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you let me just it's my hope and it's my

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understanding that they still exist

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hopefully they didn't disappear like the

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cocaine at the White House hopefully

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they're still in existence and haven't

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been destroyed Mr all you want to in a

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quick way respond to it there is no

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reason to believe that the tapes don't

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still exist I would point out again that

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the president has asserted executive

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privilege and the proper forum for

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disputing the executive privilege is in

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court not by a contempt citation um once

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the president Ser the executive

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privilege it's not up to Mr uh uh the

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Attorney General Mr Garland to present

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the tape or not uh it's up to whoever

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wants the tape in this case the

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committee to go to court and contest the

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executive uh privilege I'd also want to

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point out on a separate matter that U

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Miss Hagman brought up

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that Hunter Biden was tried and

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convicted by a jury of his peers it's

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not about Hunter Biden well this is

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about this is about the tape M natal she

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brought up a number of things and that

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the president or the former president

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was was convicted by a a jury of his

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peers and the questions she brings and

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by the way he made uh evidentiary

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rulings for the defense and against the

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defense um and whether he his

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evidentiary rulings were correct whether

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his decision to exclude certain uh

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Witnesses was correct will be decided on

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appeal in the Appel division or maybe in

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the court of appeals of the state of New

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York and it's perfectly legitimate to

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question that but it's not legitimate to

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question the legitimacy of the trial

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because that's a that those questions

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are appell questions and will be

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answered by the appell court well it

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didn't work with Richard Nixon once the

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once his uh once it was out the

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transcript was out he couldn't claim

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executive privilege but I guess that's

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why the major news outlets are suing to

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get something that you're trying to hide

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that you don't want the American people

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to see it's really an insult to the

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American people that that you're going

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to these

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links uh having all this these words

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about all these other uh that have

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nothing to do with this let me run down

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the timeline timeline and I this is

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something I don't understand uh chairman

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com Mr com you on Jan February 12th you

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sent a letter requesting all the

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documents and Communications including

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the videos including the

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Autos uh on Fe February 16th the doj

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responded uh to you stating that they

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were being

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gathered um on February 27th the the Jud

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I and oversight committee issued

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identical subpoenas to uh Garland for

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relevant information about the

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transcripts and and about the the audio

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uh the return date was March 7th and the

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the doj produced an incomplete set of

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documents comprising only correspondence

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exchange no audio on March 9th the

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committee notified the doj that its

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production was inadequate and as an

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accommodation you offered to extend the

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date of production uh to for the for the

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audio on to March 11th at 3 o'cl on

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March 11th the doj informed the

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committee that documents were undergoing

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review by the agency inter agenc they

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would not meet the committee's deadline

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why is he getting extension after

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extension I don't think Steve Bannon got

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that I don't think um Peter Navaro got

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that and I think you've demonstrated uh

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factually the Great Lengths we've gone

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to to try to work with them uh to help

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them comply it shouldn't take any time

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but we've gone to Great Lengths we've

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gone above and beyond uh to make it as

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convenient as as possible for them to

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turn over uh those tapes which we

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lawfully subpoenaed and then on April

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15th the committee did respond just said

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they were not going to produce them

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didn't have to that is such a what are

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the consequences what do you think and I

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think we will vote this it of committee

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and I think I hope the the house will

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pass this what's the consequences for

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Garland doing this will he be going

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going to jail or we've seen Merrick

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Garland has held others uh accountable

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for being held in contempt of congress

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so we'll see we'll see what happens he

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has a he has set a precedent Meritt

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Garland set a precedent of going after

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people uh who Congress is held in

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contempt for not complying with uh

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subpoenas it's just isn't that

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complicated audio doesn't lie audio he

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either said it uh and they they're going

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to these links to smoke screen every

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other CA everything else to try to

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prevent this to delay real quickly m m I

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just want to point out when you talk

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about the smoke screen that the senior

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most career official at doj fellow named

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Brad wein shimer submitted the

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Declaration stating that he listen to

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every word of the audio files and quote

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the the interview transcripts are

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accurate transcriptions of the words of

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the interview contained in the audio

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recording that's in uh paragraph 14 of

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the wein shimer Declaration so the

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allegations of the transcripts were Al

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anyway what's that got to do with what

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is that

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man's uh his interpretation of the audio

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and the transcript what's that got to do

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with anything this is just release the

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tapes let other people why are the news

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networks having to sue to get Garin to

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come to as I as I said before the reason

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that there is a hesitation about giving

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the uh audio to the Judiciary Committee

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is that the Judiciary Committee has

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previously altered audios uh to produce

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um um in effect fake versions uh of Miss

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um um we're not talk we're not talking

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about that well we are talking about

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that because there is a fear that if the

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audio was given to the Judiciary

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Committee Judiciary Committee Mr Jordan

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or the people working for him will alter

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that audio as they did for Mr Miss Jen's

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audio and produce inaccurate um um uh

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audios Miss can you respond to that sure

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that accusation is

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untrue well thank you for bringing this

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uh this is this is an embarrassment to

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be honest with you this is an

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embarrassment with what they're what

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they're doing uh i y back Mr chairman

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