The lost world of the London coffeehouse | Dr Matthew Green | TEDxEastEnd
Summary
TLDRThis script transports us to the coffee houses of 17th and 18th century London, where strangers engaged in lively debates and shared the latest news. It contrasts these historical spaces of community and intellectual exchange with today's impersonal coffee shops, like Starbucks, where individuals are often isolated. The speaker advocates for a return to the interactive spirit of old, urging us to connect with strangers in coffee shops and spark conversations, as a means to enrich our increasingly virtual lives.
Takeaways
- π The script discusses the historical significance of coffee houses in 17th and 18th century London, where people engaged in intellectual debates and shared the latest news.
- π€ It highlights that these coffee houses were spaces of social interaction, free from societal constraints, allowing people to engage with strangers openly and discuss various topics.
- π The speaker mentions Dudley Ryder, who used coffee houses as a space for personal growth and networking, eventually becoming the Lord Chief Justice.
- β The first coffee house in London was opened by a Greek entrepreneur named Pascal Ros in 1652, introducing a new beverage that was initially considered unpalatable but became popular for its stimulating effects.
- π‘ Coffee houses played a pivotal role in the Enlightenment, providing a platform for clear thinking and the exchange of ideas, which was a stark contrast to the constant state of inebriation that was common due to the poor quality of water.
- π The script describes the diversity of coffee houses, each with its unique character and clientele, ranging from scientific debates to exhibitions of exotic animals.
- π« It points out the gender exclusivity of coffee houses at the time, where women were not allowed to participate in the intellectual discussions, reinforcing the societal norms of the era.
- π£οΈ The importance of sharing news and gossip in coffee houses is emphasized, as it was the currency of these establishments, with patrons expected to contribute to the communal knowledge pool.
- π The speaker contrasts the vibrant and interactive nature of historical coffee houses with the modern-day experience in chains like Starbucks, which are described as lacking the same level of social engagement.
- π The script reflects on the impact of virtual communication and the potential loss of face-to-face interaction, advocating for the revival of the spirit of coffee house culture in contemporary society.
- π It concludes with a call to action for people to engage more with strangers in coffee shops, to rekindle the spirit of community and intellectual exchange that was once a hallmark of these establishments.
Q & A
What was the purpose of the original coffee houses in London 300 years ago?
-The original coffee houses in London 300 years ago were places where people could engage in discussions, debate, and share the latest news. They were spaces that encouraged interaction and the exchange of ideas without the constraints of class or societal norms.
Why was Dudley Ryder considered a coffee junkie?
-Dudley Ryder was considered a coffee junkie because he frequented coffee houses, used them as spaces for social interaction, and even recorded his experiences in his secret diary, showing his deep involvement and interest in the coffee house culture.
How did the taste of coffee in the 17th century differ from today's coffee?
-The taste of coffee in the 17th century was described as disgusting, often compared to oil, ink, soot, and mud. It was significantly different from the refined tastes of today's coffee, which are enjoyed for their smooth and nuanced flavors.
What was the significance of Pascal Ros's coffee shack in 1652?
-Pascal Ros's coffee shack, opened in 1652, was significant because it was London's first coffee establishment. Despite its simplicity, it marked the beginning of the coffee house culture in London and contributed to the transformation of social interactions in the city.
Why were coffee houses considered emancipatory spaces?
-Coffee houses were considered emancipatory spaces because they allowed people to interact freely, regardless of social class or taboo subjects. They provided a platform for open discussions and debates, which was a departure from the restrictive social norms of the time.
How did the introduction of coffee impact the sobriety of the population in the 17th century?
-The introduction of coffee led to a significant increase in sobriety among the population. Since the river water was polluted and unsafe to drink, people relied on alcoholic beverages. Coffee provided a safe, stimulating alternative that contributed to clearer thinking and the cultural and scientific growth of the era.
What was unique about the coffee houses of the 18th century compared to modern coffee shops?
-The coffee houses of the 18th century were unique in that each one had its own distinct character and theme. They were not uniform like many modern coffee shops, and they served as hubs for intellectual and social exchanges, rather than just places to consume coffee.
Why were women not allowed in the original coffee houses?
-Women were not allowed in the original coffee houses because of the prevailing misogynist mindset of the time. These establishments portrayed themselves as sanctuaries for rational thought and debate, and women were assumed to be incapable of such discourse. If a woman was seen in a coffee house, she was often mistaken for a prostitute.
What was the role of the 'cidlik boy' in the coffee houses?
-The 'cidlik boy' was responsible for pouring the coffee in the coffee houses. He would pour it from a high height, a technique known as 'pouring it alamod,' which was part of the coffee house experience.
How did the coffee houses contribute to the Enlightenment?
-The coffee houses contributed to the Enlightenment by providing a space for intellectual stimulation and the exchange of ideas. They facilitated debates, discussions, and the sharing of knowledge, which laid the groundwork for cultural, economic, and scientific advancements.
What is the speaker's view on modern coffee shops like Starbucks compared to the original coffee houses?
-The speaker views modern coffee shops like Starbucks as lacking the conviviality and buzz of the original coffee houses. He believes that the interaction in Starbucks is more solitary and disconnected, with people engrossed in their own devices rather than engaging in face-to-face conversations.
Outlines
π The Birth of Coffee Houses and Social Interaction
The speaker begins by engaging the audience with questions about their recent visits to coffee shops and their experiences, highlighting the contrast with 17th-century London coffee houses where social interaction and debate were encouraged. The narrative introduces Dudley Ryder, a coffee enthusiast from Hackney, who frequented such establishments. The script paints a vivid picture of the coffee houses as emancipatory spaces that defied societal norms and class distinctions, allowing free discourse on various topics. The historical significance of these venues is underscored by their role in shaping societal interactions and the cultural landscape of the time.
ποΈ The Diverse World of 18th Century Coffee Houses
This paragraph delves into the variety and uniqueness of coffee houses in 18th century London, each offering distinct experiences from scientific debates to exhibitions of exotic creatures. The speaker humorously describes peculiar establishments like the Latin coffee house, which required Latin for communication, and the Hawton Square coffee house, known for its 'inquisitions of insanity.' The paragraph emphasizes the coffee houses as hubs of intellectual and social exchange, contrasting them with the modern-day experience of coffee shops like Starbucks, which the speaker criticizes for their lack of conviviality and interaction.
βοΈ The Cultural Impact of Coffee Houses on Society
The speaker discusses the broader impact of coffee houses on society, linking their rise with a media boom and the growth of urban centers. The coffee houses served as platforms for the exchange of news and ideas, contributing to the Enlightenment. The paragraph highlights the personal transformation of Dudley Ryder, who used the coffee houses to refine his public persona. It also mentions the literary significance of establishments like Button's coffee house, which was a gathering place for renowned writers and a catalyst for literary acclaim.
π The Revival of Coffee House Culture and Its Importance
In the final paragraph, the speaker calls for a revival of the interactive spirit of old coffee houses in the context of modern society's increasing virtualization. The paragraph contrasts the isolation of digital interactions with the vibrancy of face-to-face communication. The speaker optimistically points to the resurgence of independent coffee shops and their potential to foster community and conversation. The call to action encourages the audience to engage with strangers in coffee shops, reigniting the spirit of inquiry and social interaction that characterized the original coffee houses.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Coffee House
π‘Debating
π‘Emancipatory Spaces
π‘Dudley Ryder
π‘Enlightenment
π‘Pascal Ros
π‘Sobriety
π‘Conviviality
π‘Misogyny
π‘Renaissance
π‘Virtual World
Highlights
In the past, coffee shops were places where strangers would engage in debates and discussions, unlike today's more solitary coffee shop experiences.
300 years ago, London coffee houses encouraged behavior like debating news and sharing poetry, which is unusual in modern coffee shops.
Dudley Ryder, a historical figure, used coffee houses as emancipatory spaces where he could freely interact and debate with others.
Coffee houses in the 17th and 18th centuries were hubs for intellectual discussions and were distinct from each other in character and clientele.
Pascal Ros, a Greek entrepreneur, opened London's first coffee shack in 1652, which was a simple setup without modern amenities.
The taste of 17th-century coffee was considered disgusting, often compared to oil, ink, soot, and mud.
Coffee was seen as a miracle cure and a stimulant for body and mind, sparking conversations and ideas.
The arrival of coffee led to a 'dawn of sobriety', as it was a safer alternative to polluted river water.
Coffee houses contributed to the Enlightenment by providing a clear-headed space for intellectual growth.
By the 18th century, there were 3,000 coffee houses in London, each with a unique character.
Some coffee houses, like Don Saltero's, were filled with oddities and attracted notable figures like Isaac Newton.
The Grecian coffee house was known for scientific debates, including public dissections to prove theories.
The Latin coffee house required patrons to speak Latin all day, but it did not last long.
Haxton Square coffee house in Hackney was known for 'inquisitions of insanity', where locals would judge the sanity of alleged lunatics.
Original coffee houses were male-only zones, with women assumed to be prostitutes if found inside without serving coffee.
Coffee houses were a source of news and gossip, with patrons expected to share news upon entering.
The speaker calls for a modern revolution to return to the interactive and convivial nature of historical coffee houses.
There has been a resurgence of small independent coffee shops in London, reviving the art of coffee making.
The speaker encourages people to engage in face-to-face interactions in coffee shops rather than isolating themselves with technology.
Transcripts
[Music]
okay thank you very much uh I just want
to ask you a question to begin with how
many of you guys have been into a coffee
shop in the last week could you put up
you don't have to stand up but you put
up your hand so that's an awful lot and
uh I want to ask you another question um
can you you just summon up a mental
picture of that coffee shop and uh
answer me this could you imagine walking
in sitting down next to a stranger and
asking for the latest news then debating
it for hours on
end that's a no okay another question um
could you imagine Marching In whipping
out a book of poetry slamming it down
next to someone's Vanilla Ice latte
demanding to know their opinion before
delivering your own PR of the book in a
big boom boing voice to the whole
shop that's a no okay um what I want to
reveal to you tonight or this afternoon
even is that 300 years ago the Streets
of London were lined with a very
different breed of coffee house where
such Behavior was actively encouraged um
they wouldn't think you were a menace or
a nuisance or a freak if you just went
up to a stranger and started talking
this used to happen day in day out in
coffee houses all over the city and one
individual in particular uh his name was
Dudley Ryder this guy behind me he was a
coffee junkie and he was local as well
uh he lived in uh Hackney in Bohemia
place and uh back then Hackney was a
very different place to what it is now
as you might imagine it was a bucolic
Paradise it was like an Arcadia Beyond
morefields it was surrounded by all
these Meadows and Fields and Market
Gardens and this is the junction that he
used to use to get into London this is
the junction of Cambridge Heath Road and
may streets um a bit different isn't it
and you can just about make out the Dome
of St Paul's in the background and um he
dropped in to the Hackney coffee house
this was about 301 years ago and he
recorded in his secret diary he saw a
room full of people he didn't know any
of them but he sat down asked them what
the latest news was and he heard
alarming report the jackaby Rebellion
that was swirling in Scotland was moving
ever closer to England and it was going
to come down and take over London and he
debated it for hours on end and then he
left feeling Ed ified and refreshed and
for Dudley Ryder that's what his family
home has become by the way a busot um
for Dudley ryer like for so many people
coffee houses were emancipatory spaces
they freed people from the strictures
and straight jackets of society they
allowed people to interact with who they
wanted how they wanted where they wanted
and in a way that they wanted without
abiding by any kind of class concerns or
um any Notions that certain subjects
were taboo and every time Dudley rid
took a sip of coffee uh every time any
of us take a sip of coffee we're
participating in a ritual that stretches
back 361 years to this Alleyway anyone
know it this is right in the thick of
the city of London this is St Michael's
alley in Corn Hill for it was here in
this churchard in the year 1652 that
this man here uh who was an eccentric
Greek entrepreneur called Pascal Ros he
opened London's first coffee Shack I say
Shack because it didn't have any of the
things we associate with houses like
tables or chairs or a roof or anything
like that and he opens it uh against
those black railings which were then a
stone wo to the churchard garden now I
don't know if you guys are coffee
connoisseurs I from the amount of people
that put their hands up I'm guessing
quite a lot of you are but if you're
into your silky smooth flat whites brw
to mathematical Precision in one of the
the finest third wave coffee houses in
Hackney the taste of the 17th century
stuff would have you headed for the
nearest toilet bowl um this was
routinely described even back then so
it's not just a case that our taste buds
have become more refined people at the
time thought it was disgusting as well
it was routinely compared to oil ink
soot mud and most commonly just um
nonetheless This Bitter muhammadan gr as
it came to be known it would transform
the face of the city bring people
together and Inspire brilliant ideas
pasare claimed that it was a miracle
cure for just about every single ailment
he could think of uh and people loved
the way that it stimulated the body and
the mind and sparked conversations but
the main reason for its success uh and
this might come as something of a
surprise but until the arrival of coffee
most people in the country were either
slightly or very drunk all day long not
because we were a nation of Alcoholics
but because you couldn't drink the river
water unless you had a death wish
because it was notoriously polluted so
the arrival of this GRL would trigger a
dawn of sobriety that would lay the
foundations for spectacular cultural and
economic and science scientific growth
in the decades that follow purely
because people were thinking clearly for
the first time in their history so this
was the jet fuel you might laugh but
it's true this was the jet fuel of the
Enlightenment this uh this kind of
hellish concoction as it was known um
and you can still find the plaque in the
alleyway today and he triggered a coffee
house boom um by the turn of the 18th
century there were 3,000 coffee houses
all over the city and much unlike all
those kind of blands cafos and Starbucks
and those kind of depressing places that
have invaded our high streets today the
great thing about the original coffee
houses was that every single one was
different so I'm just going to take you
on a whirlwind tour of some of the more
outlandish establishments if you went to
Chelsea you could go to Don sto's coffee
house which was a museum of monsters you
had snakes and crocodiles nailed to the
wall and Isaac Newton would be sitting
in the corner sipping his coffee musing
over the monsters if you went a bit
further west you could go to the Grecian
coffee house which was a cold of
scientific debate so much so that a
natural philosopher turned up one day
with a dolphin draped over his back and
he proceeded to slam it down whip out a
knife and dissect it to prove his
theories on Dolphin dissection um so
imagine trying that in a caffero today
um here's what it has become let's not
forget the Latin coffee house this was
opened by hogarth's father not one of
his better commercial propositions
because it had one rule one rule only
you had to speak in Latin all day long
or you were thrown out that lasted about
weeks and it operated from This
Magnificent uh prior that's still there
in Clark andwell today um elsewhere
there was a floating Coffee House a
glorified dance floor for rakes and
dandies and even when the The Ice froze
which it did because they had a little
ice age in the 17th 18th century they
used to set up coffee houses on the ice
um which you can see there but what
about round here because there were
coffee houses in Hackney as well the
most famous was perhaps the hawton
square Coffee House and Hackney then was
renowned for its lunatic asylums it was
full of mad houses public and private so
what better activity to do in the Haxton
Square coffee house than what they
called inquisitions of insanity whereby
it's very Politically Incorrect but a
suspected mad man or woman would be tied
up thrown into the coffee house everyone
got to go and prod the alleged lunatic
and then they retire to the table sink a
shot of the disgusting coffee and vote
are they actually mad or not and if it
was unanimously declared that you were
mad you were dragged away to a mad house
for the rest of your life and these
events were highly popular and of course
we still have mildly pretentious
idiosyncratic uh coffee houses today
this is of course the serial killer uh I
just put that in for a joke really um
okay so in spite of this diversity um
there was a of Common Thread um it's
easy to recreate what it was like to
actually go inside any of these coffee
houses um so the first thing you'd
notice would be that you'd be engulfed
in a whirlwind of smoke and sweat and
steam and eventually the haze would
clear and you'd see a scene much like
the one on the screen behind me long
wooden tables long wooden benches
smartly dressed men and there would be
drinking thinking writing piping
debating um you know like uh persecuting
the coffee house cat Etc one thing you
wouldn't see would be any women inside
um the only woman you can see in this
picture of course is the woman in the
bar and unfortunately coffee houses
liked to portray themselves as
sanctuaries of rational thought and
level-headed debate and in the
misogynist mindset of the day women were
simply incapable of that so they weren't
allowed in if a woman was seen in a
coffee house and she wasn't pouring out
the GRL it was automatically assumed
that she was a prostitute so these were
male only zones and and that was one of
their shortcomings so the haze is
cleared everybody will put down their
their coffee put down their newspaper
put down their pipe and they would Point
At You and they'd all scream out the
following words your servant sir what
news from Tripoli okay sometimes it was
abbreviated simply to what news have you
and if you were in the Latin coffee
house it would have been quid Novi now
although technically it cost one p to
get in and you could stay there and
drink and think and debate for as long
as you like the real currency was news
and gossip and you weren't allowed to
sit down until you divulged a nugget of
Gossip this might be something you'd
read in a paper it might be something
that you'd made up um and it normally
actually was something that You' made up
because these places were Wellsprings of
misinformation and lies as much as they
were incredible sources of information
much like the internet today uh you'd
get to the front you'd see a cidlik boy
pouring the coffee from as high a height
as he could that was called pouring it
alamod uh and um you wouldn't so much
start your own conversation you'd melt
into one that was already in full flow
that's why I began with that perhaps
slightly factious seeming question
that's what this gentleman in the black
is doing on the right he's melting into
a conversation that is already um in
full flow so why was it like that why is
it so different the experience of going
into coffeee houses today there was a
fortuitous Collision of factors the most
important of which was a media Boom at
the start of the 18th century and that
was dovetailed with the growth of cities
and the rise of the idea of politeness
which meant that people should try and
interact with as many people as they
could so they would chisel away their
rough antisocial edges and become shiny
polished and poite and we're still
living with the consequences of that
today uh Dudley Ryder he was a man who
was 23y old guy he was go he was awkward
he was ruthlessly ambitious though he
was um dissatisfied with his own
personality and in the spirit of the
Enlightenment he saw personality as
something that could be molded and
manipulated and he used to kind of adopt
Gees to present a favorable impression
of himself in these public coffee houses
that were so convivial and uh ultimately
he kind of succeeded in knitting
together a super personality based of
all the people he had observed in the
coffee houses which he foisted on top of
his own unsatis satisfactory personality
which he kept hidden in the diary and he
went on to become famous and he actually
rose up to become the Lord chief justice
one of his favorite coffee houses and
perhaps my favorite too if I could go
back in time would have been buttons in
Covent Garden now this was just a Stones
Throw from the Piaza itself it was
opened by this man here Joseph Addison
the great poet and playwright mainly
because he didn't like his wife that
much so he wanted a kind of retreat from
a tempestuous marriage but he being who
he was it soon evolved into an Emporium
of wit and all the great writers of the
age Addison steel Pope gay Swift Etc
they all assembled there and costed
their superb literary judgments upon the
work of aspiring writers making and
breaking litery reputations in the
process so if you got a thumbs up from
those guys it was like getting a retweet
from Steven Fry on Twitter today people
would rush out and buy the book and
watching it all from a hook in the
corner was this it's a lion crossed with
a wizard I've never been able to see the
wizard part myself but it is and the
public were invited to feed it with
letters and lims and stories the very
best of which would be roared out in a
special weekly edition of the original
Guardian newspaper so this really was uh
a medium for interaction and Society
Beyond borders and um there's actually
still a coffee house that operates from
the site of buttons today um so here we
have the sort of literary convivial
buttons do you want to see what it is
today yes you were Whispering it you KN
you dived it you knew it's a Starbucks
there there's not even a blue plaque um
one of London's many lost coffeee houses
and for me this is a big big shame
because the kind of mode of interaction
in a Starbucks is utterly different in
Starbucks people sit sequestered from
the world immersed in their own thoughts
tapping out little babblings on Twitter
or Facebook either that or they just
stare out of the window miserably into
the sort of drizzly Street Beyond
there's no Fizz there's no buzz there's
no conviviality if you talk to a
stranger they think you're absolutely
clinically insane um and you're not
going to be staring into the sparkling
eyes of a customer inquiring after the
latest news um you're going to be
staring into the dull electronic glare
of a smartphone or a laptop and for me
the kind of interaction that you get in
places like Starbucks is more
reminiscent of what we see in something
like this this is Night Hawks by Edward
Hopper it's an image of Urban Oni and
anonymity that's so affecting that it
really sort Sears itself into your mind
and that for me is what Starbucks is
like and you can see here a typically
miserable scene in a
Starbucks uh this is not uh well what
why does this matter um I I I think
basically as we slide into an
increasingly virtual world and you it's
going to come a point where the barriers
between the virtual world and the real
world are going to dissolve all together
um in a very real way not in a sort of
futuristic dystopian way but um and I
think in light of these developments we
can't remind ourselves enough the
importance of face-to-face interaction
in an increasingly virtual world think
of trolling you know I'm sure you will
read I know the comments at the bottom
of the guardian or the end of dep
dependent or the whatever you read you
very rarely have a levelheaded exchange
of ideas it's kind of vitory like
character assassination one upmanship
and um if you're in a coffee house where
you've actually got a real physical
person in front of you then you know
it's not going to break out into an
argument that was a spectacularly ill
time slide because there's a picture
here of a man throwing a cup of coffee
in someone else's face uh just to show
I'm not fetishizing these coffee houses
um but they remind us that we can lose
touch with this face-to-face plane which
I think is very important finally there
are a few Grounds for Hope well quite a
lot of Grounds for Hope um over the last
8 10 years there been a Renaissance of
small independent coffee shops all over
London a lot of them in Hackney here are
some of my favorites there topa on deoa
a bit like the floating coffee house
that one because you can sit on the
floating seats you got the Hackney Pearl
and Hackney Wick the proud archist in
haggon uh Violet these are just my
locals really Violet cakes Wilton way
and they have managed to elevate the art
of making a cup of coffee into this kind
of epicurian art form you know these
flat whites they are to die for we've
come on a long way since the days when
coffee tasted like and uh in all
these places if it's brewed even sort of
slightly too hot or too cold all these
gadgets start beeping and it has to be
remade so that's good but we still don't
really have a space where you can go in
sit down maybe at a themed table
philosophy table politics table
conspiracy table and just talk to
strangers a bit like what we're
hopefully going to do today so having
just listened to all of that with your
help I'd like us to make it a revolution
in the true sense that is a turn of the
wheel back to the housan days of the
17th and 18th century coffee houses so
next time you go into a coffee house I
don't want you just to sit on your own
and check your email or read the news I
want you to scan the room for someone
you've never seen before it can be
someone you like the look of okay then
you walk over to their table you sit
down you slide your chair ever so close
you lean in you put your hand on their
shoulder and then you scream those four
Immortal words what news have you and if
enough of us do it then we will spread
the
revolution thank you very
[Applause]
much
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