I regret studying medicine in Russia! MBBS in english is a scam? exclusive interview PRT 1

Joyce Busola
11 Sept 202117:15

Summary

TLDR视频脚本讨论了在俄罗斯学习医学的经验,特别是比较了俄语和英语教学环境的差异。提到了俄罗斯教师英语水平不足可能带来的学习困难,但也强调了他们的专业能力和教学效果。讨论了在俄语环境中学习医学的优势和挑战,包括语言障碍对日常生活和临床实践的影响,以及拥有本科学位如何帮助适应医学学习。

Takeaways

  • 🇷🇺 俄罗斯老师的英语水平不高,教学过程中存在语言障碍。
  • 👍 尽管语言障碍存在,俄罗斯的医学教育质量高,教授水平出色。
  • 💡 学生需要自行学习,特别是在英语授课的情况下,自主学习量大。
  • 💪 有医学背景的学生在俄罗斯医学学习中占有优势。
  • 🧑‍⚕️ 学习俄语对于在俄罗斯生活和获取机会非常重要。
  • 📚 学生在俄罗斯需要适应一种高强度的学习方式,第一天就开始考试。
  • 🌍 学生们常常需要通过个人努力和额外学习来弥补语言和文化差异。
  • 🏫 英语授课的学生往往缺少实际操作机会,相比之下俄语授课的学生更有优势。
  • 👩‍🎓 许多学生因为经济原因选择在俄罗斯学习医学,费用相对较低。
  • 🤝 学习俄语有助于更好地融入当地生活,增加就业和实习机会。

Q & A

  • 为什么选择去俄罗斯学习医学?

    -主要原因是经济因素,希望以较低的成本获得高质量的教育。尼日利亚家庭通常有多个孩子,每年花费25,000美元在教育上对家庭来说负担较重。

  • 在俄罗斯学习医学的另一个原因是什么?

    -一些尼日利亚学生在俄罗斯完成学业后表现优异,成为医生和顾问,这激励了其他人也选择去俄罗斯学习。

  • 为什么有人选择在俄语环境中学习医学?

    -一方面是出于挑战自我,另一方面是认为既然已经来到俄罗斯,就应该学习俄语,以便更好地适应生活和学习。

  • 为什么有些学生在俄语环境中学习会感到困难?

    -因为许多俄罗斯教师的英语水平不高,这使得在英语授课环境中的学生难以理解课程内容。

  • 在俄罗斯学习医学的学生通常需要做哪些额外的工作?

    -学生需要自己做很多自学工作,因为教师可能无法用英语清晰地传达复杂的概念,学生需要自己阅读和研究。

  • 拥有本科学位对于在俄罗斯学习医学有何帮助?

    -拥有本科学位的学生在理解医学概念时会有一定的优势,因为他们已经有了相关的基础知识。

  • 为什么有些学生在英语授课环境中感到舒适?

    -因为英语授课环境可能让学生感到更熟悉和舒适,但这也可能让他们变得懒惰,不去积极学习俄语和适应当地文化。

  • 在俄罗斯学习医学的学生在临床实践中会遇到什么困难?

    -与俄罗斯学生相比,他们可能没有那么多的实践机会,这可能会影响他们的临床经验和技能发展。

  • 为什么学习俄语对于在俄罗斯的医学生很重要?

    -学习俄语可以帮助学生更好地与当地人交流,获得更多的机会和体验,充分体验俄罗斯的生活和文化。

  • 在俄罗斯学习医学的学生如何克服语言障碍?

    -学生需要主动学习俄语,与俄罗斯人交流,积极参与学校和社区的活动,以提高语言能力和适应能力。

  • 为什么说在俄罗斯学习医学需要有很强的自我驱动力?

    -因为学生需要自己做很多自学工作,同时还需要克服语言和文化障碍,这需要有很强的自我驱动力和决心。

Outlines

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😀 俄罗斯留学初体验与选择

本段视频脚本介绍了视频博主耶稣(Jesus)的YouTube频道,以及他与表亲杜达卡(Dudaka)的对话。杜达卡在俄罗斯学习医学,即将开始第五年。视频旨在通过一系列问题探讨在俄罗斯用俄语和英语学习医学的个人经历,以及两种教育方式的优劣。杜达卡选择在俄罗斯学习医学的原因主要是出于经济考虑,希望能以较低的成本获得高质量的教育。此外,视频中还提到了尼日利亚学生在俄罗斯学习医学的普遍情况,以及他们毕业后的职业发展。

05:05

😐 俄语与英语教学的挑战

视频的第二段聚焦于在俄罗斯用俄语和英语学习医学的挑战。杜达卡选择继续用俄语学习,尽管有机会转到英语教学,但她认为既然已经开始,就应该坚持下去。耶稣则因为听说俄罗斯教师的英语水平不高,担心在英语教学中难以理解专业医学知识,因此选择了英语教学。视频中讨论了俄罗斯教师英语水平不足对学习的影响,以及学生需要进行大量自学的情况。此外,还提到了俄罗斯教育系统的一些特点,如学生需要在课堂上即时回答问题,以及缺乏预先通知的测试。

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🎓 学术背景对医学学习的影响

在第三段中,耶稣和杜达卡讨论了拥有化学学士学位对医学学习的影响。杜达卡认为,尽管她不完全记得之前学过的所有内容,但她的学术背景为她提供了一个坚实的基础,帮助她在医学学习中取得成功。她提到,即使在不同的课程和教学计划中,她也能够利用之前的知识来理解和吸收新信息。此外,她还强调了个人决心和自我认知在医学学习中的重要性,以及在面对困难时需要有应对策略。

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😟 俄语与英语教学的困难与生活适应

视频的最后一段讨论了在俄罗斯学习医学时遇到的困难,包括语言障碍和生活适应问题。耶稣指出,如果学生不能讲俄语,生活可能会变得困难和不舒服。他还提到,尽管在英语教学中的学生可能没有那么多的实践机会,但他们仍然需要进行大量的自学。此外,视频还提到了在俄罗斯学习医学的学生可能面临的文化冲击和适应问题,以及如何通过学习俄语来获得更多的机会和体验。

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Keywords

💡俄罗斯教师

在视频中,提到俄罗斯教师在英语教学方面可能存在一定的局限性,这直接影响了在俄罗斯学习医学的外国学生的语言学习体验。例如,视频中有提到'russian teachers don't really know how to speak english properly',说明了俄罗斯教师的英语水平可能不足以满足完全用英语进行专业教学的需求。

💡医学教育

视频中讨论了在俄罗斯接受医学教育的体验,包括语言障碍和教育质量。'study medicine in russia'是视频中的一个核心话题,涉及学费、教育质量和个人发展等方面。

💡语言障碍

视频中多次提到语言障碍问题,尤其是在英语教学环境中,俄罗斯教师的英语发音和表达可能不够标准,这给学生的学习带来了额外的挑战。例如,'russian teachers are good but they can't speak english properly',突显了语言障碍对学习体验的影响。

💡个人经验

视频中的讲述者分享了他们个人在俄罗斯学习医学的经验,包括选择学习语言的决策和学习过程中遇到的困难。'based on our personal experiences'强调了个人经验在评估教育质量时的重要性。

💡教育质量

视频中讨论了在俄罗斯学习医学的教育质量问题,尤其是当教师的语言能力不足以完全用英语进行教学时。'quality of education'是评价学习体验的关键因素之一,视频中通过比较不同教学环境下的学生体验来探讨这一点。

💡经济考虑

视频中提到了经济因素是选择在俄罗斯学习医学的一个重要原因。'finance'和'manage funds'说明了学生在选择留学地点时需要考虑的经济负担和成本效益。

💡文化冲击

视频中提到了文化冲击,尤其是在教育体系和教学方法上的不同。'culture shock'描述了学生在适应新环境时可能遇到的挑战,例如俄罗斯的教学方式与其他国家的差异。

💡自主学习

视频中强调了在俄罗斯学习医学时,学生需要进行大量的自主学习。'doing most of your job yourself'说明了学生需要自己阅读、研究和理解课程内容,尤其是在教师语言能力有限的情况下。

💡临床实践

视频中提到了临床实践的不足,尤其是在英语教学环境中,学生可能没有足够的机会进行实践学习。'you don't have as much practicals'指出了英语教学环境中可能存在的实践机会不足的问题。

💡适应能力

视频中讨论了学生在面对语言障碍和教育体系差异时所需的适应能力。'a survivor or like a coping mechanism'强调了学生需要发展应对策略和适应新环境的能力。

💡俄罗斯生活

视频中提到了在俄罗斯生活的经历,包括语言学习的重要性和文化体验。'living in russia'涉及了学生在俄罗斯的日常生活,以及他们如何通过学习俄语来更好地融入当地社会。

Highlights

俄罗斯教师的英语水平可能不是很高,这可能会影响教学质量。

尽管如此,俄罗斯教师在医学教育方面非常出色和有效。

学生在俄罗斯学习医学,主要是因为经济原因和寻求高质量教育。

在俄罗斯学习医学的另一个原因是家庭决策和社会影响。

学生在俄罗斯学习时可以选择英语或俄语教学,但存在不同的挑战。

选择俄语教学的学生可能面临更大的挑战,但也能更深入地体验俄罗斯文化。

即使在英语教学中,学生也需要自己进行大量的自学。

俄罗斯教师即使英语不流利,也能有效地传授医学知识。

在俄罗斯学习医学的学生,无论选择哪种语言教学,都需要有很强的自学能力。

拥有本科学位的学生在医学学习中可能会更加自信,因为他们已经具备一定的基础知识。

学生需要了解自己,明确目标,并制定实现目标的计划。

在俄罗斯学习英语教学的学生可能在日常生活中面临语言障碍。

学生需要有应对挑战的策略,以克服学习过程中的困难。

在俄罗斯学习的学生可能没有足够的实践机会,尤其是那些选择英语教学的学生。

学生应该意识到,无论选择哪种教学语言,都需要付出额外的努力来获得高质量的教育。

学生应该积极学习俄语,以便更好地融入俄罗斯的生活和文化。

Transcripts

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russian teachers don't really know how to speak  english properly russian teachers are good the  

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russians are really they really they are effective  yeah they are brilliant you will learn hi guys we  

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have to look at this shop that's very hard i know  yesterday i have a lovely guest with me anyways  

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we're just testing okay hi my name is jesus  welcome to my youtube channel if you're new here  

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hi hi so guys actually you guys i mentioned that  we're going to have like a back to school series  

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on my channel and gracefully my cousin showed  up in moscow and i'm like yeah perfect way to  

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actually start the series so guys let me introduce  you to my cousin okay so my name is everybody  

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calls me you can call it yeah people call me dirty  too i'm studying here in russia i'm about to start  

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my fifth year in medical school yeah okay guys  here you have it so we have delaware today that  

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was the 15th medical student and that was studied  in russian media so that is one of the reasons  

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why she's actually here today we need to have this  discussion i studied in english and russian medium  

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if you guys have watched my previous q a video i  addressed this but then i promised you guys that  

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i'm actually going to do this like fully and  that's what i have with appropriate still so  

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we are going to go through a series of questions  that will help us have this conversation about  

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schooling in russian versus schooling in english  medium which one is better based on our personal  

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experiences you know how do we think about it and  all that so if that sounds like something you want  

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to hear more about definitely sit down grab a  popcorn maybe you got the drink and let's have  

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this chat together all right okay so guys we're  going to start with addressing why we actually  

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came to study in russia so why did you cover  study medicine in russia it's a very important  

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question honestly i feel like it's going to be the  same answer for everybody the first thing for me  

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was you know finance trying to get quality  and also manage funds i mean most nigerians  

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have much families when you have your kids it's  not exactly easy to spend like 25 000 per year  

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in education like accommodation and books and all  that so i was just looking for you know something  

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much cheaper but you know not in nigeria because i  was at that point and you know just so i could get  

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quality for my money oh my for my parents money  not my money i love that disclaimer not my money  

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my parents money yeah guys um okay for me why did  i come and study medicine in russia to be honest i  

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think i've told you story before i'm not sure but  i feel like my parents just made decisions for me  

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so that's why i actually came to study yeah i  think our parents actually just made decisions  

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for us when it comes to study medicine and russia  was like the way also actually we had like a lot  

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of people back here that were studying and some  that are finished and they were doing very well  

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like outside you know russia as you know graduates  yeah and like as you know consultants and all that  

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and they just feel like okay coming to russia yeah  i was like a good fit all right let's talk about  

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studying in russian medium so like i also studied  in russian medium right like when i first came  

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to my so i had the opportunity to like move to  english medium after like my first year basically  

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after two years here and i took it alongside some  of my other classmates of course me that we were  

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struggling together at the time but then dudaka  also had that choice but she didn't take it so the  

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can you tell us why you chose to study in russian  medium i feel like the first thing is why not  

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i'm not and i'm a lover of war like i have this  thing where i intentionally choose the difficult  

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part out what i'm trying to prove i check it  out i don't know what i'm always trying to prove  

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but i just have this thing where i'm like and the  funniest thing is for the fact that like whenever  

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i choose like difficult uh way i always make  sure i make up my mind before so for some reason  

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at least after the night like i always killed  through you know i always go through and also  

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i just felt like i already started and this  year wasn't like that bad like i wasn't so lost  

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like it wasn't terrible yeah why not you might  have just fire and you know like just continue  

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yeah so i guess that's my game change i'm very  proud of the luck for you guys i'm very proud of  

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her actually like i mean the brave one like i said  i i pretty much chickened out on the race like  

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so early even though now that i'm back you know  i'm doing my residency now i'm back i don't know  

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why did i only when you're very friendly i'm i'm  backside i'm back to like learning in russian and  

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when i think about it right now i agree with  her and i also have some other things to say  

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about it so for someone that studied in english  medium i would say that i think at the end of  

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the day you are coming to school in russia and  i think you pretty much don't have any business  

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coming to school in russia without wanting to  learn or school russian language you get like  

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that if i will live comfortably for you if you  don't do you understand how are you supposed  

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to find your way around how do you buy stuff  sometimes you go to buying time you need to price

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yeah you know so and then i think another reason  why i didn't change was because i heard uh like  

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russians like the russian teachers speak english  and it was so terrible like i would have like  

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serious like hard times and like i would literally  struggle to understand what they're trying to say  

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so i'm like if you can't speak english  like how are you supposed to you know  

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teach me something as technical as medicine  something that's so technical in english and  

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then i found out that that's how it was  in like so many russian universities that  

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i mean the teachers couldn't speak in english  properly yeah so i'm just like you know what no  

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i rather struggle and understand them than i mean  in their language than in english so guys actually  

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this is like one truth that i think many of us  were not um aware of before going to study in  

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english medium and i'm saying it's for most  especially for people that are coming to school  

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now and you guys have to make a decision russian  or english medium many of you have actually asked  

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me like which one do i you know which one do i  prefer but then i think once we are done with  

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this conversation you guys can actually make that  decision but yeah back to where the laptop was  

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saying about um russian english russian teacher  has not been able to speak english properly you  

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guys that's the truth i'm saying this plain right  now that that's actually the truth they can't  

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speak english properly not all of them i had a  lot of teachers not a lot but a couple of teachers  

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especially in my clinical days i had a couple of  chats that could speak properly like you know like  

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proper polish too yeah those ones were probably  um sourced for yeah maybe they travel with a  

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lot yeah yeah so i had teachers that could teach  properly but then when you think about it majority  

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of the other teachers who couldn't couldn't  really speak properly so what would happen  

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is the obviously they are teaching you what they  need to teach you but they are not touching you  

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giving you the information that you ought to know  or that you need to know but then but when you ask  

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yeah questions they can't answer you they even can  answer but it can't be like in their own language  

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they will be able to be like don't don't  get don't get us wrong russian teachers  

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are good russians are really they really they are  effective yeah they are brilliant you will learn  

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if you are learning in russian language you  would learn in english media it's not like  

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you know language but i will be very honest  with you half the time i think you're doing  

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it down yeah you are doing the job of learning by  yourself like what you're saying about doing most  

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of your job yourself it's kind of like the same in  russian yeah because i think it's another thing we  

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should talk about we need to warn them i don't  want you but if you're coming to medical school  

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yeah i think it's medical school yeah i think it's  medicine i mean because i've heard about other  

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like universities and like absolutely like that  yeah you need to read their system is so messed up  

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trust me your first day of school you're writing  tests bridges culture shock i i i've said this  

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before like you write tests i've said i think  i did a video about the educational system yeah  

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it's like i'm like it's my first day like i  just let me like remove my jackets and sit down  

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sister no as you're coming in  they will tell you to you know  

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they're standing history like  bring out a piece of paper yeah  

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put your phone and other books even then they're  asking you uh questions based on today's topic  

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exactly the same in english yeah in english but  then some other teachers would have informed you  

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before like maybe i didn't happen i wanted to  inform you just know i don't know if i should  

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say this now like when we talk about like um how  to like tips for schooling because like some other  

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teachers so i'm sorry some at the beginning of  some courses you can ask your seniors how is that  

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where you already tell you like oh okay this is  the topic you should read like before classes  

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at all but the truth is russian teachers expect  you to know like and then you just come and ask  

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other questions that you don't understand you guys  yeah so like that is like the reality of russian  

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english medium starting in russia yeah basically  studying in russian you're ready for war yeah  

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so guys there's something else that i  wanted to mention i forgot for cypher  

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okay so doloco actually has a degree already you  are anatomized about chemistry and that's me yeah  

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sc yeah both yeah you guys the lapper already  had a bsc and not to me before she came to school  

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so that would tell us how what was the impact of  your bsc on studying medicine now uh if i'm being  

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honest yeah my bsc helped me so well i mean it's  not like i remember every single time i started  

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in my bsc it's not like i remember every single  night i started last semester in medical school  

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but the fact that you're already coming with an  idea of what you're about to study for example  

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your pre-clinicals was basically kind of like  the same yeah i think i did in my psa anatomy  

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did i survive when i was maybe a senior yes  because and then i think i survived obviously  

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because i was studying english but so many  people had a difficult time but when i was  

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in medical school here like when not was when  like right now yeah because i'm still studying  

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like my bsc seriously helped me i think it's  also part of the thing that just like boosted  

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my confidence because what every single time  i was about to give about like i just kept  

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saying oh you've already done this thing before  now just just interpret it you know and then  

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at the point even if it was like something  new because obviously they're like different  

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courses and it would never be one like the same  syllabus or the same program so i was like oh  

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just interpret and add flesh you know like just  like interpret from english to russian like your  

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previous knowledge and then add some flesh to it  so yes i would even lie and try to deceive those  

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that are coming from ss3 directly yeah except if  you may be like uh you should the kind of person  

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that you know that has already said like research  yeah medical terminology yeah and all of that so  

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yeah my psa anatomy was really useful like it was  it's up till now like it's a really key survival  

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tool for me because it's different when you're  coming in with like even if that you're coming  

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in with 10 percent of your knowledge down when  you're coming in with like zero there's always a  

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difference yeah i mean i feel like i came in with  like 50 the other 50 was just like interpreting  

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but again i it could also be personal because so  many people i studied with or studied with that  

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that also have a bsc it's not exactly easy for  them i mean in my university in other universes  

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like all over russia's like people with pscs have  given up so maybe i mean it could be that my bsc  

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helped me personally and it didn't help them it  could also be that i was just like personally  

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determined yeah so at the end of the day i  feel you need to know yourself you need to like  

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um what's it called you need to know yourself  like you need to be pre-determined sure and  

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map out exactly what it is that you want like  know exactly what you want and how you want to  

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achieve it and yeah you also need like a survivor  or like a coping mechanism when you're giving up  

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yeah so now we're going to be talking about  like difficulties of like you know scrolling  

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in russian and english medium let me start so like  in school in english medium when i think about it  

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we mentioned this already that russian teachers  don't really know how to speak english properly  

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you guys like let me just just say i'm sorry that  these are mummies that probably watch this video  

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i am wondering what's going on  with you your children back here  

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but yeah they don't speak english properly and  i don't blame them honestly i can't even blame  

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them because i don't speak russian properly do  you understand why we're expecting too much from  

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them right but then russian teachers are good  they are very smart they are the best professors  

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to be honest like when it comes to study medicine  when you do your research russia is very good for  

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studying medicine however russian teachers don't  speak english properly and that can be difficulty  

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trying for someone wants to experience medicine  do you get i would say that serious students  

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like it's they don't really speak properly so you  have to do a lot of personal work but then i mean  

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i've spoken to students in the us and the uk i  think it's still the same thing they also have  

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like personal work to do but i think the personal  work you have to do as someone studying english  

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medium is more than someone schooling like in  other countries where they actually speak english  

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so yeah that's actually just a major difficulty  the fact that russian teachers don't speak english  

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properly however i think i don't think is an issue  that cannot be dealt with i mean you just have to  

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do the personal work to like do the extra learning  because i think uh from what i've learned so far  

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it also affects like the quality of education yeah  which is what she's also say that you you're gonna  

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have to do a lot of work yourself you know  personally you're gonna have to like read up  

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and read up and read up again so what other  difficulty would i say living living in russia  

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can get difficult and uncomfortable if you can't  speak the language i know this doesn't exactly  

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relate with studying but if you're schooling in  russian medium then paul will talk about that  

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if you're a school in universal medium you  get to speak more of the language you get to  

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learn the language better and at the same time  you get to um live better you know so for many  

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students at school in english many of them don't  end up getting real opportunities here in russia  

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because of that barrier except you're a student  that takes it upon yourself you're screening  

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in english but you take it upon yourself  to learn russian language and relate with  

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russians i i have it i know a couple of people  that they learnt in english meaning but like  

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in risky they are very good as well you  get they are very good but they're like  

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i don't know english medium has the way of  making you know lenny be like lazy comfortable  

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do you understand yeah but like if you  really want to fight for things here  

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you need the language like if you really if you  want opportunities exposure if you want to like  

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leave yeah to the fullest not just going to school  and coming back yeah you know like move around  

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like fully experience russia experience like  enjoy your student life yeah you need your life

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um what other difficulty practical oh yeah your  clinicals and so yes you guys i'll be very honest  

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with you you don't have as much practicals  that's the truth compared to russian students

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