Is Joyor s5 or s10 scooter water proof?

Summary

This video tutorial addresses the common question of whether electric scooters are waterproof. The host emphasizes that they are not, explaining the lack of gaskets and waterproofing in key areas like the battery compartment and speed controller. To make the scooter water-resistant, viewers are given DIY solutions, such as using silicone to seal holes and applying dielectrical grease to connections. Detailed steps are provided for waterproofing the scooter's components, with a focus on careful handling to avoid damaging wires and maintaining the controller's integrity.

Takeaways

• 🚫 The scooters discussed are not waterproof and should not be submerged in water.
• 💡 The battery cover and other parts have no gaskets, and there are holes that can let water in.
• 🔧 There are ways to make the scooter more water-resistant, such as using silicone to seal holes and applying dielectrical grease to connections.
• 🛠️ The speed controller and its connections are particularly vulnerable to water damage and need to be sealed properly.
• 🔌 There are accessories like screw-on caps with gaskets available to protect the charging port from water.
• 🛑 If submerged, water can enter through various openings, including the lights and the battery compartment.
• 💡 The video provides a step-by-step guide on how to waterproof the scooter by sealing the speed controller and other components.
• 👷‍♂️ The process of making the scooter waterproof involves disassembling parts of it and applying silicone and dielectrical grease to the necessary areas.
• ⚠️ The video warns against rushing the waterproofing process due to the fragility of the scooter's wires and components.
• 🌡️ Keeping the speed controller cool is important, especially in hot weather, but drilling holes in the plastic cover is not recommended.
• 🔄 The video suggests considering alternatives like using aluminum for the cover to act as a heatsink, but emphasizes not compromising the scooter's water resistance.

Q & A

Are the scooters mentioned in the video script waterproof?

No, the scooters are not waterproof. They have some resistance to water, but they cannot be submerged in water.

What is the purpose of the stickers on the scooter's bottom holes?

The stickers on the bottom holes are a basic form of waterproofing, but they are not a reliable means of protection once they fall off.

What are the main concerns regarding the scooter's water resistance?

The main concerns are the speed controller, the wires with connections, and the battery compartment, as these areas are not waterproofed and are vulnerable to water damage.

What is one method suggested in the video to improve the scooter's water resistance?

One method suggested is to seal up the four holes on the bottom with silicone after removing the Allen screws, and to silicone every single hole on the scooter platform where wires are going up.

What is the role of dielectrical grease in making the scooter more water resistant?

Dielectrical grease is used to waterproof the wires by applying it to all the connections, which helps to keep water out and maintain the electrical integrity of the connections.

How does the video suggest sealing the speed controller?

The video suggests applying silicone around the screws and openings of the speed controller to ensure it is water tight.

What is the importance of being careful with the scooter's wires while making it waterproof?

The wires are fragile and can be damaged if not handled carefully. Bending or mishandling them could lead to power issues or other malfunctions.

What is the viewer's suggestion regarding the scooter's controller cooling?

A viewer suggested drilling holes in the plastic cover to improve cooling, but the video advises against this due to the risk of debris and water entering and damaging the controller.

What alternative is suggested instead of drilling holes for cooling the controller?

The video suggests making the cover out of aluminum to act as a heat sink, transferring heat from the controller and cooling it down without the risk of water or debris entering.

What is the final step mentioned in the video for ensuring the scooter is water resistant after modifications?

The final step is to put back the three screws carefully to avoid stripping the plastic, ensuring all connections are sealed with silicone, and keeping the charging port closed or using a screw-on cap with a gasket.

Outlines

00:00

🚫 Not Waterproof Scooters: Risks and DIY Fixes

The speaker clarifies that the scooters discussed are not waterproof and emphasizes the risks of submersion. They explain the lack of gaskets and the presence of holes that allow water to reach the battery and electrical components, such as the speed controller and wires. The speaker suggests DIY methods to improve water resistance, like sealing holes with silicone and using dielectric grease on connections, and mentions the availability of a screw-on cap for added protection. They also demonstrate the process of disassembling the scooter to apply silicone to various parts and advise against submersion due to potential damage to electrical components.

05:02

🛠️ Waterproofing Scooters: A Step-by-Step Guide

The speaker provides a detailed guide on how to waterproof a scooter by sealing the battery compartment and other openings with silicone. They discuss the importance of sealing the speed controller and wire connections to prevent water damage. The speaker also recommends using electrical grease to protect connections from water and salt, which can cause short circuits. They share personal experiences with waterproofing, including the use of zip ties to secure components and the importance of careful handling to avoid damaging wires.

10:04

🔌 Dealing with Wire Connections and Battery Protection

The speaker focuses on the vulnerability of wire connections and the battery, explaining that these parts are not inherently waterproof. They demonstrate how to apply electrical grease to prevent water intrusion and short circuits. The speaker also addresses the issue of keeping the scooter's controller cool, suggesting the use of a heat sink or aluminum cover instead of drilling holes, which could compromise the scooter's integrity. They emphasize the need for careful reassembly to avoid damaging the scooter's electrical components.

15:04

🔧 Final Steps in Waterproofing and Maintenance Tips

The speaker concludes the waterproofing process by detailing the final steps of reassembling the scooter, including securing the battery compartment and ensuring all connections are tightly sealed with silicone. They recount a personal incident where a connection issue led to a loss of power, highlighting the importance of careful assembly and maintenance. The speaker also advises viewers on keeping the controller cool during hot weather and suggests alternatives to drilling holes for ventilation, such as using a metal cover as a heat sink.

20:08

👋 Closing Remarks and Viewer Engagement Invitation

In the final paragraph, the speaker wraps up the video with a summary of the waterproofing process and invites viewers to subscribe, comment, and share ideas for future videos. They encourage viewers to engage with the content and offer suggestions for improvement or additional topics to cover, fostering a community of scooter enthusiasts and DIYers.

Keywords

💡Waterproof

Waterproof refers to the property of being resistant to water intrusion, which is a key concern in the video. The script emphasizes that the scooters discussed are not truly waterproof, meaning they cannot be submerged in water without risk of damage. The term is used to explain the limitations of the scooter's design and to caution viewers against exposing the scooter to water beyond its capabilities.

💡Submerge

To submerge means to put something completely under water or another liquid. In the context of the video, the term is used to describe the incorrect use of the scooters, which should not be fully submerged in water due to their non-waterproof nature. The script warns against submerging the scooters as it can lead to water entering the battery compartment and other areas, potentially causing damage.

💡Gaskets

Gaskets are thin, usually circular, pieces of material used to seal spaces between two surfaces, preventing leakage. The script mentions that the scooters lack gaskets on their battery covers and other parts, which is one reason they are not waterproof. The absence of gaskets contributes to the scooter's inability to prevent water from entering through the holes and seams.

💡Battery Compartment

The battery compartment is the part of a device that houses the battery or batteries. In the video script, the battery compartment is highlighted as a vulnerable area where water can enter if the scooter is submerged or exposed to heavy rain. The script describes the compartment's design and how it relates to the scooter's non-waterproof status.

💡Speed Controller

A speed controller is a device that regulates the speed of electric motors. In the context of the video, the speed controller is mentioned as a critical component that is not waterproofed, making it susceptible to damage if water enters the scooter. The script advises viewers to pay special attention to the speed controller when considering waterproofing modifications.

💡Wire Connections

Wire connections refer to the points where electrical wires are joined or attached to components. The script discusses the vulnerability of these connections to water damage, as they are not sealed or waterproofed. It is emphasized that protecting these connections is crucial for maintaining the scooter's functionality in wet conditions.

💡Silicone

Silicone is a type of sealant commonly used for waterproofing and weatherproofing applications. The video script suggests using silicone to seal the holes and seams on the scooter to make it more water-resistant. It is highlighted as a method to prevent water intrusion into the battery compartment and other areas.

💡Dielecrical Grease

Dielecrical grease, also known as electrical grease, is a type of lubricant used to protect electrical connections from moisture, dust, and other contaminants. In the video, the script recommends using dielectrical grease to waterproof the wire connections and prevent short circuits due to water exposure.

💡Heatsink

A heatsink is a device that helps dissipate heat generated by electronic components. The script suggests making the scooter's cover out of aluminum to act as a heatsink, helping to keep the speed controller cool and prevent overheating. This is particularly important during hot weather or heavy use.

💡Zip Tie

A zip tie, also known as a cable tie, is a type of fastener used to secure cables or other items together. In the video script, zip ties are recommended as a method to ensure that the connections and covers on the scooter stay in place and do not come loose during use, especially after waterproofing modifications.

💡Venting

Venting refers to the process of allowing air to flow in and out of an enclosed space to cool it down or equalize pressure. The script mentions the idea of drilling holes for venting as a way to keep the speed controller cool, but advises against it due to the risk of allowing water in. Instead, alternative methods such as using a heatsink are suggested.

Highlights

The scooter is not waterproof and should not be submerged in water.

The battery cover and side lights lack gaskets, only having stickers that can fall off, exposing holes to water.

Holes at the bottom and back of the scooter allow water to enter the battery compartment and speed controller area.

A method to improve water resistance involves sealing the holes with silicone and using Allen screws.

Canadian accessory sellers offer a screw-on cap with a gasket for the charging port to keep water out.

Using dielectrical grease on wire connections can make the scooter waterproof.

Siliconing the speed controller is crucial to prevent water damage.

The battery compartment's design allows water to seep in through large holes where lights are housed.

Removing the cover reveals the lack of gaskets and the presence of large holes that can fill with water.

Sealing the speed controller with silicone is essential to prevent controller damage from water.

Wire connections need to be sealed with electrical grease to prevent shorting out the speed controller.

Using a zip tie can secure wire connections and prevent them from coming apart while riding.

The battery size of the S10 scooter is enormous, contributing to its long range.

Care must be taken when reassembling the scooter to avoid damaging fragile wires.

A viewer suggested keeping the speed controller cool, but drilling holes in the cover is not recommended.

An alternative to drilling holes for cooling is using an aluminum cover that acts as a heat sink.

Ensuring all connections are waterproofed and the controller is sealed is key to riding in the rain without issues.

Transcripts

hey everybody welcome back to another

video so a lot of you been asking me are

these waterproof they are not waterproof

I can't stress this enough they you

cannot submerge these in water

um they are kind of resistant

um what I mean by that is your lights on

the side here the actual battery cover

which is this plastic piece in the front

none of this has any type of gaskets on

it you have four holes down on the

bottom here they just have little

stickers so kind of waterproof but once

these stickers fall off like on this

joyer of the S5 they fell off you have

holes that go right into the battery

compartment right in this section in the

front you have your speed controller

your wires with the connections

non-waterproofed all within this section

from here down at least on the S10

it's the battery so the battery it goes

from the bottom all the way up to about

here that's the battery so that side

really doesn't matter what we're really

concerned with is more or less your

speed controller and all the connections

and the wires

so

what happens too is up over here where

all the control wires and everything go

down

there's a hole in here all the water if

you submerge this will go down in here

also so through the lights through the

cover through this big hole here and

also don't forget there's holes in the

back also

there is obviously a way of making this

waterproof or water resistant depending

on how crazy you want to go with water

um one would be to seal up the four

holes on the bottom take the screws

these Allen screws here

before those out put silicone on them

silicone them back together basically

taking these side marker lights take

them off basically siliconing every

single hole on this scooter that's the

platform uh the where the wire is going

up here they do have this cap probably

would work

um somewhat if you're just driving

through the rain but if you submerge

this all the way it's not going to work

the um the other company that does sell

this up in Canada they have an actual

screw on cap in the accessory section

um I have a link in that um also in one

of my shorts you screw the cap on and it

has a gasket and it keeps the water from

going in this charging port

so it all depends on how crazy

you want to try to make this

um you know waterproof or water

resistant

so the other way to do this is to

actually open this up

waterproof the wires with dielectrical

grease which basically it's just a

electrical grease that you put in all

the connections squish them back

together that makes it waterproof and

then taking

um silicone and siliconing your speed

controller

so I'm gonna pop this apart and I'll

kind of show you

um where to silicone the different

things inside if that's the route you're

going to take

if you go the other route which is

basically taking all of these components

apart and siliconing everything on this

battery box which is from up here all

the way down that's something you're

gonna have to undergo yourself that

because it's a major project with taking

every single screw apart uh every little

uh part and then just siliconing

everything making it completely

waterproof if you're gonna submerge this

in water which I don't really recommend

doing anyway because you do have your

electric motors

and you have um you know your lights and

stuff like that which are going to be

going on the water eventually it's going

to damage them because this is

electrical so let me pause the video get

you in closer uh pull this cover off

I'll kind of show you where you need to

um silicone or dialectical Grease the

connections to make this waterproof okay

so we're here at the battery compartment

in the front of the scooter here the

handlebars and all of you can see it's

tilted back there's throw it away so you

could either use

um you know a powered Phillips

screwdriver like this or just a regular

one

so you're going to be unscrewing this

one on the bottom here

this screws into plastic so just be

careful when you're putting it back you

don't mess this plastic tray up because

it's only plastic

there's one on the side light over here

and the other ones this side light over

here

and that's all that holds this cover on

you're going to be removing this cover

and you see that's what I was saying

there's no gasket that runs around this

so and matter of fact there's a big

giant hole at the top so as the water

comes down it would go right into here

fill this tray up with water and it

would get inside here

so

if you're looking to really waterproof

disc and you go completely crazy like I

said down in the this areas you have

giant holes where these lights come out

of

and that's where the water is going to

actually seep into two you have to you

would have to run a bead of silicone

around this

or make a gasket to waterproof this

cover here

and as you could tell I kind of

repositioned this here already and I

have it up off the ground so that it's

not flopping around or it's not resting

on the bottom here

so the speed controller itself okay is

somewhat uh sealed up so you could tell

that they tried to put a little bit of

sealer here it's that little black stuff

there they do have the end cap sealed

okay you there's a little bit of you

could kind of see it's like a little

piece of rubber that runs around

but what they don't have is they don't

have these silicones so you would dab

the silicone on here obviously

dab the silicone all around these screws

here

you would make a giant just I mean you

would go crazy around these three

openings

the more the better because if you don't

seal this off you will kill this

controller this is what you're going to

kill

so you have the three other screws on

the other side right here

and that will pretty much seal off this

controller so you'll be fine now the

biggest issue I found with this again is

their wire connections none of these

are waterproof

and you could pretty much tell when you

take yours apart and you pull these off

they're just regular run-of-the-mill

connections

so let's say you live by the shore you

live in a place where they're throwing

down salt on the roads or anything like

that once that salty water gets in here

and it gets on these connections it will

link all these connections uh shorting

out your speed controller

so you have to really

um

keep in mind that you have to

seal all of these that are in see this

one here it has that nice

that really nice water Tight Seal so

this one you shouldn't be too concerned

with you can put a nice bead around this

just to seal it off okay

so

if you get something

you can get all types of stuff

um so

you have something like this here which

is ultra black

from Permatex

you could use this if you want to go

with something black or you could go

with a home windows and doors or bathtub

type of silicone something if you're

going to be riding in very cold

temperatures it's going to not harden up

and crack it'll stay kind of flexible

still

so you

know you

um some type of dialectical grease

um

it'll say actually electrical grease on

it or silicone dialectical compound you

could use anything like that

they call it a bunch of different things

I mean even if you get something like

this yes I know it's for breaks but it

retains a gooey consistency it doesn't

dry out it repels water that's what

you're looking to do anything that you

could take and you can jam a whole ton

of it into these components

so you would take it and you would

literally just Jam a whole ton of it in

there like that

keeping the water out

and basically as you squish it together

it's squishing it it'll actually come

out of these sections here so as the

water tries to get in it's it's just not

going to get in it's impossible

so you go ahead and do every single wire

in this compartment which is going to

take you a while so don't go crazy uh

take your time if it takes you you know

an extra you know time like a full day

or something

um you know take your time and do it

also make sure that these different

accessories are up off this floor here

make sure this you know this box seems

like it's really this one at least is

really done very well

so I won't do that one but make sure

yours has no air gaps it's completely

sealed up all these little again all

these little fittings yes they have

silicones on the side but if you open

these up

if they didn't silicone yours apparently

they siliconed mine if you open these up

you'll see that they don't have anything

on the inside and that's the problem

because as the Water Works its way down

it will wow they silicone these things

together so you'll probably have to pry

these apart but again you could see that

there's no silicone they didn't go all

the way around

so what's going to happen is this will

get water in it

and it will basically short this out

let's get this off of here so I can get

this off

and I'm sure the reason why they're

doing this is so that this doesn't come

apart when you're riding the scooter

but right now we're worried more about

trying to make this waterproof

so if we go through water we're not

having a heart attack that we're going

to kill the scooter

so try to get this apart

see

yeah slowly coming there we go

oh at least they did their job they kept

it together okay so now that I have it

apart you can really see

how there's there is nothing other than

this to hold it together

there was nothing to keep the water out

they did silicone this side

and they sealed this side which is great

but let's face it when you're when you

have it together like that

the water is going to get in between

these gaps

right like that so again

we're going to take

this electrical Grease

dab it on

and then jam it back together and if

you're worried about this

um

coming apart while you're riding it you

could do the same thing you can put a

dab of

um RTV silicone whatever you want just

the kind of

um you know right on the corner there or

over here in the back or you could take

a a very tiny zip tie like I did over

here and zip tie it together

so if you give it a tug and it's not

coming loose or coming out with you

pulling it it's it's not going to come

apart so again you have to do that with

every single

wire in this scooter

so

um

that's pretty much it that's how you do

that also this here I found mine

um obviously they cut it

but it was just flapping around the ends

were

um you know they were open

so I basically taped it up to make sure

that it didn't contact anything and

short this out

this way I don't have a problem so again

if you want to actually see what the

battery looks like and how large this

battery really is in the um S10

it is it's just a ginormous battery it

goes

it basically goes from all the way down

here

right about here

and it's the whole length of this

battery compartment and you can see down

in here

that's the top of the battery so this

this battery is is huge I mean it's it's

a giant battery so

the second

so we're just lower than the second one

so we're right about here this Mark

so you're from the bottom all the way to

the top that's how big this battery is

and that's why you're able to go so far

with this scooter

Okay so

again if if you're really looking to get

this thing to the point where you can

ride it in the rain ride it in the snow

ride it back and forth to work and not

have to worry about

um shorting out your controller this is

basically what you have to do take your

time

don't rush be very very careful with

these wires

um I can't stress that enough because a

lot of these wires they may not some of

them may not seem fragile but they're

fragile so if you start bending them

moving them doing all types of crazy

things with them

it's it's possible you can damage them

and then you put this all back together

and you're you're scratching your head

going uh what just happened here

so

definitely take your time especially as

you can see when you're putting it back

because you have the wires coming out

this side and the wires coming out this

side you want to again stay away from

them but yet slowly push this down

you want to get this here up off the

ground so it's it's it's quite it's a

pain in the butt that's why

um

when I did this the last time I was

checking this out because I did lose

power uh the second week I had this

um I came off the curb and all of a

sudden all power went out I had zero

power I actually had to push myself back

home uh rather than walking along the

side of this I had to push it home with

my foot so I was kind of like it was

like a push scooter

um so I basically got it home I took it

apart and I found that again the main

connection from the battery up popped

the part and that's why I put the zip

tie so

that little box now is All the Way to

the Top This you cannot get all the way

to the top because you have all these

wires coming in

so if you push that little box all the

way down and then you can get this up

under all of these cables you can then

push up

get this box under

all of these cables

and then down and then get it so that

you can get it up back up matter of fact

you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna

push

then I'm going to get this box down here

push all these to this side here

and these little the little wires for

the lights I think those are the most

fragile so just be careful with those

coming into the compartment

also uh one viewer did make a suggestion

and he's absolutely right

he's absolutely right

um you want to try to keep this

controller cool as cool as possible

because

especially in the summertime if you live

in areas that get extremely hot

um you you want to try to keep this cool

so

you if you could keep this right here

even with that plastic cover as the

plastic cover gets hit with the air and

and kind of this heat will transfer to

the cover the cover will help keep this

cool

um I have been told by a couple of

viewers that they were thinking of

drilling holes

in this cover

to keep this cool

I would refrain from that because as you

could tell by the look of this this is

the only thing protecting all those

wires this speed controller and the

battery from stuff flying into it so I

would resist from doing that I wouldn't

do that

um if you

um want to you could possibly do some

type of venting up on top

maybe but then you have issues with

water you know going down in there so

the other thing you probably could do

too is make this uh cover instead of

plastic make it out of aluminum

and then this way it becomes a heat sink

along with the controller and this will

become a heatsink

transferring the heat from this

controller to this cooling the

controller down

that is definitely a an option

but try not to drill holes in this

because I think you're going to create a

big problem

um so once again once you're done with

all this you're going to have your three

screws

put your three screws back be very

careful because this is only plastic

and you'll strip it out

uh generally to put it back I I use a

real screwdriver because I don't really

don't want to strip this

um

and then that's it that's as far as

um as far as you have to go I mean

everything else should be good as long

as you waterproof all those connections

put like I said the dabs of uh silicone

around those screws on the controller

make sure the controllers really uh

water tight and then obviously where

your your charging port goes uh either

definitely keep this closed or go on uh

the one website get the screw one that

screws down with the gasket and I think

you'll be really uh you'll be doing good

especially if you're just commuting or

something and you end up getting uh hit

with rain you should be fine so that's

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