Closing A $1,400 Rank & Rent Deal After Failing Twice

Nick Wood
25 May 202407:00

Summary

TLDRThe speaker shares his experience with Rank and Rent, a business model he discovered while on paternity leave. Despite initial hesitations on spending on ads, he eventually committed to the process, focusing on the concrete niche. After sending multiple leads to a potential client, he managed to close a deal at $1,400 per month, three times the cost of the client's existing service. The speaker emphasizes the importance of building relationships and demonstrating the value of the service, acknowledging he could have charged more but was satisfied with his first successful deal.

Takeaways

  • 👶 The speaker joined Rank and Rent around October, shortly after his son was born, while he was on paternity leave.
  • 🔍 He started researching and marketing, eventually finding Nick's group and learning from the free content provided.
  • 📈 The speaker was already in a deal before joining Nick's paid group, which indicates the value of the free resources available.
  • 💡 Nick's group offers a significant amount of information for free, which helped the speaker to get started in the business.
  • 🚫 The speaker initially struggled with the fear of spending money on ads without getting a deal in return.
  • 📉 He experimented with different niches, starting with towing, which didn't work out due to the need for high ad spend and volume.
  • 🏗️ He then moved to the concrete niche, invested in ads, and committed to making the business work for three months.
  • 💡 The speaker realized the importance of letting ads run and following the process without fear of spending money.
  • 🤝 He managed to close a deal by sending leads and building a relationship with the business owner, emphasizing the value of his service.
  • 🎯 The speaker sold the service for $1,400 a month, which was three times what the client was paying for another service.
  • 💰 The client had a misconception about the value of the service, and the speaker could have potentially charged more.
  • 🚀 The speaker learned the importance of not getting scared by low offers and continuing the process to prove the value of his service.

Q & A

  • When did the speaker first get involved with Rank and Rent?

    -The speaker first got involved with Rank and Rent in October, right after his son was born, while he was on paternity leave.

  • What was the speaker doing during his paternity leave that led him to Rank and Rent?

    -During his paternity leave, the speaker was doing flip marketing and researching, which led him to come across Nick and the Rank and Rent group.

  • How much of Nick's strategies does the speaker mention being available for free?

    -The speaker mentions that Nick gives out about 98% of his secrets for free.

  • What was the speaker's initial hesitation in committing to paid advertising for Rank and Rent?

    -The speaker was initially nervous about spending money on ads, fearing that he might spend $600 and not get a deal, resulting in a loss.

  • What was the first niche market the speaker attempted with Rank and Rent?

    -The first niche market the speaker attempted was Towing, which he later realized was not the best choice due to the need for high ad volume.

  • Why did the speaker decide to stop contributing to his 401k for three months?

    -The speaker decided to stop contributing to his 401k for three months to invest in Rank and Rent, as he believed it was more lucrative.

  • How many leads did the speaker send to the business owner before getting a response?

    -The speaker sent eight leads to the business owner before getting a response and establishing a connection.

  • What was the business owner's initial reaction when comparing the speaker's service to another he was paying $450 a month for?

    -The business owner initially felt that the speaker's service could not compete with the $450 a month service he was already using.

  • How did the speaker address the business owner's concern about the value of his service compared to the cheaper alternatives?

    -The speaker showed the business owner the value by demonstrating the areas he would cover, emphasizing that the other leads were not in the business owner's area and building a relationship from the start.

  • What was the final monthly price the speaker sold the service for?

    -The speaker sold the service for $1,400 a month, which is three times more than what the business owner was paying for his other service.

  • What advice does the speaker give about dealing with potential clients who try to negotiate on price?

    -The speaker advises not to get scared and to show the value in what is being offered, emphasizing the importance of building a relationship from the beginning.

Outlines

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🚀 Launching a New Business Deal with Rank and Rent

The speaker details their journey into the Rank and Rent business model, which began around October, coinciding with the birth of their son. While on paternity leave, they explored flip marketing and came across Nick's group, which offers substantial free insights into the business. Despite being in Nick's paid group for less than a week, they managed to line up a deal by dissecting the free information available. The speaker admits to hesitating with ad spending, fearing wasted investment without a guaranteed return. They initially ventured into the towing niche against Nick's advice, due to its high ad volume requirements, but pivoted to concrete after realizing the challenges. Committing to the process, they stopped contributing to their 401k for three months to focus on the business. The first deal was secured after sending multiple leads to a potential client, who was impressed by the personalized approach and the value proposition, leading to a successful deal closure.

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🤝 Overcoming Objections and Securing a Higher-Value Deal

In this paragraph, the speaker reflects on the importance of building relationships from the outset and overcoming price objections. They recount a situation where a potential client initially resisted due to the cost, comparing the speaker's service to a cheaper alternative. However, by demonstrating the value of their service and the quality of leads provided, the speaker managed to secure the client at a rate three times higher than what they were previously paying. The client's success, with a significant increase in revenue, indicated that there was room to potentially upsell the service in the future. The speaker emphasizes the psychological aspects of negotiation, where playing hard to get is a common tactic, but ultimately, persistence and demonstrating the unique value of the service led to a successful outcome.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Rank and Rent

Rank and Rent refers to a business model where individuals or companies rank websites for specific keywords and then rent out those rankings to clients, typically businesses looking to improve their online visibility. In the video's context, the speaker mentions getting into 'Rank and Rent' after his son was born, which suggests that it's a strategy he adopted to generate income, likely through digital marketing services.

💡Paternity Leave

Paternity leave is a period of time that a father can take off from work following the birth of a child. In the script, the speaker mentions being on paternity leave when he started researching and eventually getting into the 'Rank and Rent' business, indicating that this was a personal period that also coincided with a professional transition.

💡Flip Marketing

Flip marketing typically involves buying a product or service at a low price and then reselling it for a profit. In the video, the speaker was 'doing the flip marketing stuff,' which implies that he was engaged in some form of buying and selling, likely in a digital context, as part of his entrepreneurial activities.

💡Nick

In the transcript, 'Nick' appears to be a figure who shares a significant amount of information for free, which the speaker found valuable. It's suggested that Nick is a knowledgeable person in the field of digital marketing or the 'Rank and Rent' business, and the speaker learned a lot from him, even before joining his paid group.

💡Paid Group

A paid group refers to a community or network where membership requires payment, often providing additional resources, connections, or exclusive content. The speaker mentions joining Nick's paid group, indicating a desire for more in-depth knowledge and potentially better networking opportunities within the 'Rank and Rent' space.

💡City Niche Combos

City niche combos likely refer to specific market segments or areas of focus within a city that are targeted for marketing purposes. The speaker discusses going into 'a couple different city niche combos,' which suggests a strategy of targeting specific local markets within the 'Rank and Rent' business model.

💡Ads

In the context of the video, 'ads' refers to advertising, particularly online advertisements used to generate leads or promote services. The speaker mentions being nervous about spending money on ads and turning them off, which reflects a common concern among marketers about the return on investment for advertising.

💡Towing

Towing is the act of pulling vehicles that have broken down or been involved in accidents to a safer location. In the script, the speaker initially chose the towing niche against Nick's advice, indicating a specific industry they initially targeted within their 'Rank and Rent' strategy before deciding it wasn't the right fit.

💡Concrete

In the transcript, 'concrete' refers to the concrete industry, which the speaker transitioned into after leaving the towing niche. This represents another market segment the speaker explored within their entrepreneurial venture, suggesting a shift in strategy to find a more lucrative or suitable niche.

💡401K

A 401K is a retirement savings plan in the United States. The speaker mentions not putting money into their 401K for three months to focus on making their 'Rank and Rent' business work, illustrating the personal financial commitment and risk taken to pursue this new venture.

💡Leads

Leads in a marketing context refer to potential customers or clients who have shown interest in a product or service. The speaker discusses sending leads to a business owner as part of their 'Rank and Rent' strategy, emphasizing the importance of lead generation and nurturing in closing deals and providing value to clients.

💡Upsell

Upsell refers to the practice of selling a more expensive or higher-grade product or service to a customer who has already shown interest in a lower-grade option. The speaker asks how to upsell and is advised to show the value in what they're offering, indicating a strategy to increase revenue by offering enhanced services to existing clients.

💡Value Proposition

A value proposition is a statement that communicates the unique value a product or service offers to customers. The speaker discusses showing the value in their offering to the business owner, which is crucial for convincing the client to choose their service over competitors, as seen when the speaker shows the city where the client is at and explains their unique approach.

💡Relationship Building

Relationship building refers to the process of establishing and nurturing relationships with clients or customers. The speaker highlights the importance of building a relationship from the beginning as a key factor in closing the deal, mentioning how sending leads, making a video, and having a Zoom call contributed to this.

💡Revenue

Revenue is the income generated from business activities. The speaker learns that the client's revenue for the current year has already matched the previous year's total, indicating significant growth and success for the client's business, which also provides context for the speaker's ability to sell a high-value service.

Highlights

Joined Rank and Rent in October/November after the birth of his son during paternity leave.

Started with flip marketing and researching before discovering Nick's group.

Nick provides 98% of his secrets for free, which helped in understanding the process.

Joined Nick's paid group for connections but had a deal lined up before joining.

Initially hesitant to keep ads running due to fear of spending money without getting a deal.

First niche chosen was towing, which required high ad volume and was not successful.

Switched to the concrete niche and committed to not contributing to a 401k for 3 months to focus on the business.

Received the first lead on the first or second day of running ads.

Sent a total of eight leads to learn the process and understand the client's needs.

Had a 45-minute call with the client, understanding his passion for growing the company.

Client was already paying for leads at $450 a month, which initially seemed like a challenge.

Used a screencast to show the client the value and uniqueness of the offered service.

Sold the service for $1,400 a month, which is three times what the client was paying for another service.

Emphasized the importance of building a relationship with the client from the beginning.

Client's revenue last year was $800,000, and he has already matched that this year.

Acknowledged that the service could have been sold for a higher price due to the client's success.

Mistakenly believed that the client had a misconception about the value of the service offered.

The process of closing the deal was described as surprisingly easy once completed.

Transcripts

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so tell us about your deal so how long

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have you been in how long have you known

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about Rank and rent and then how long

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has it been since you got that first

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deal like what was the the time frame I

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got into Rank and rent probably I think

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it was October like right after my son

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was born I got a 5-month old right after

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he was born I was on paternity leave and

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I was just I was doing the flip

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marketing stuff and I was you know

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researching I ran across Nick and then I

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came across this group so it's was

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probably October November that I got

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into this group and then I just started

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dissecting it you know cuz Nick gives

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out pretty much 98% of his secrets for

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free and it's just amazing you know if

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you go through and you just search the

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group for any questions you have watch

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the lives you know just start piecing

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stuff together it'll like start to make

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sense so I'm in Nick's paid group now

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but I actually had this deal and I've

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only been in his paid group for like

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less than a week and I had this deal

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lined up ready to go before I even got

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into the paid group so there was enough

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stuff in the free group to get me up to

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that point the main reason I went into

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the free group is cuz I just wanted to

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be like in the group like I wanted to be

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able to have the connections of being

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the group right so yeah I mean I had

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this whole deal lined up I went into a

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couple different city Niche Combos and

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then I kept like spending money on ads

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and I was like no no I turn the ads off

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like I'm not nervous to to keep them

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going nervous to keep them going I'm

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like what if I spend $600 on ads and

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then I don't get a deal I'm out $600 do

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you feel like this is why it took you I

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mean you got the deal but like do you

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feel like this is what held you back

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from getting it from like a month to

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like now is that kind of what you think

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your hangup is yes I could have got it

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much sooner sooner had I just had just

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let the ads run and ran with the process

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and I actually went into a niche the

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first one I did was a niche that I

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should not have done I went against

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Nick's uh advice and I was doing Towing

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I know people have success with Towing

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but you have to produce a lot of volume

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with your ads to make make it and so I

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was like really nervous about that so I

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kept like I'd spend like 100 bucks on

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ads and I was like no that turn it off

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and then I would turn it back on and

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spend some more and turn off and I'm

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like nothing's ever gonna happen I'm

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just G to keep spending money so I got

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out of Towing I went into concrete and

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then did all the ads and everything and

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I was like all right look I'm not going

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to put money in my 401k for 3 months I

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was like I'm going to make this work for

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three months I like because I've been

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putting you know money back but I'm like

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this is way more lucrative than like

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this1 thing right so I'm like no more

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401K for three months I'm going to make

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this work I'm giving myself that like

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Grace I guess and I'm going to let these

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ads run and follow the process so turn

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the ads on let them run I think it was

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like the first or second day that I had

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them running I had a lead called a guy

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went through probably three or four

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businesses and this guy picked up and I

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immediately knew like just the tone of

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his voice I was like this is the guy I'm

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going to close the deal on this guy

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because I could just tell like he just

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is Young he he wants to grow and sent

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him the first lead and then the next day

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I send him another lead and the timing

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was not on my side this time he was kind

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of unresponsive he was doing like a

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80,000 foot parking a lot or something

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so he was super buy I ended up sending

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him like eight leads

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because because the timing just wasn't

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good but it helped like it helped me

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learn the process and like I'll know the

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next time around I'm not going to send

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that many but I think helped me for this

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one because after I send him like the

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second or third lead I got on a call

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with him he pretty much told me his life

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story in like 45

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minutes

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yeah this guy definitely wants to grow

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like he's super passionate about his

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company and he told me he said yeah I'm

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paying for leads I he's like I got

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another leion sight just like this one

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it actually started the same way and I'm

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paying $450 a month and I was like at

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that moment I was like oh no like I

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cannot compete with $450 a month that's

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what's funny is I've had that same same

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thing happen to me where like the guy's

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like hey I actually partnered with

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somebody a week later he like goes to

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this some freaking concrete XO and he's

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like bro I heard I just been like

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talking around some guy can do it for

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$400 I'm like well that's the difference

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between Great Value at Walmart and like

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Costco you you know something way better

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dude I'm like you're comparing to apples

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and oranges like yeah so like I totally

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get what you're saying so yeah he said

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he had that one for 450 and then he had

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another one that was like $100 for 3

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months and it was like decorative

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concrete or something and I was like I'm

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not going to be a to compete with this I

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kept going I was like I'm just going to

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keep going with the process I send him

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some more leads asked around to some

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friends I was like how should I upsell

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this and I asked Nick too and it was

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like just show him the value in what

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you're offering right like show them

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that you're going to be better so I

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actually went a little bit off off like

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when I did my screencast I went a little

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bit off script and actually showed him

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the city where he's at and I was like

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look there's no one here so I like I

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don't know where you're getting these

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other leads from but it's not your area

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like you know I showed him basically the

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whole the whole concept of you know what

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I was going to do and what I was going

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to build and he was he totally got it

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and he was like the fact that you sent

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me the leads and then sent me this video

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and that we're doing this Zoom call and

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all this stuff he's like I can tell that

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this is different the other one he was

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like she just called me on the phone and

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said hey do you want these leads $450 a

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month you know we saw that value and the

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fact that we were actually building that

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relationship with them from the very

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beginning and I think that's super

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important and so yeah I sold him on you

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know $1,400 a month which is three times

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as much as he's paying for his other

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service so dude I well and I I just love

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that you said that too because like

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you're going to get come come to that

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point where they're going to try to like

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scare you like I've had people that get

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on the phone and like when they first

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say it dude you're like great like I

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can't compete with that they're never

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going to want this service but like I've

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had the same thing happen to me where

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they've like told me they're like well

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well I'm only paying like this much for

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this and it's been fine for me but then

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I'm like okay well like if you have

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enough jobs I don't want to put them on

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you and they like oh no no no no and

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like they like start coming back to you

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because their leads actually aren't that

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good but it's just proof that like don't

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get scared like that they try to do

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stuff cuz it's just the game like

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they're all trying to play this game of

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like playing hard to get we're all doing

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it just in our own little ways it's like

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who can call who can call each other out

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first basically like and it's like they

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need us more than we need them like

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there's plenty of business owners but

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like very rarely I feel like are you

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going to get a chance where like one of

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us right is going to come and and Pitch

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one of these guys and send him free

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leads so I definitely could have closed

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in for higher he definitely had like

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this misconception on like what the

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value was because he's paying but had he

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not had the other Le gen service I

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definitely could have closed him for

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higher I found out that he hit uh his

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Revenue last year was 800,000 and then

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this year he's already hit 800,000 and

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so he's like blowing his last year's

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goal out of the water so

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out of the water so I'm like I

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definitely could have like sold this for

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much more but he just had a a

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misconception around like the value in

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it but down the road you know I might

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try to like up the price on him or

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something but that's my first but yeah I

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mean it was definitely a process and but

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it wasn't hard like once you do it and

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close that deal you're just like okay

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that was actually kind of stupid easy

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like let's go I know

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