The Biggest Danger Facing The Stock Market Right Now | Joseph Carlson Ep. 138
Summary
TLDR本视频讨论了两位著名投资者的观点:被誉为“投资女王”的凯西·伍德(Kathy Wood)和电影《大空头》中由克里斯蒂安·贝尔(Christian Bale)扮演的迈克尔·J·伯里(Dr. Michael J. Burry)。伯里因预见2007年金融危机而闻名,他最近在推特上发出关于通货膨胀的警告,指出美国政府的现代货币理论政策和M2货币供应量的大幅增加可能导致通货膨胀。凯西·伍德则提到市场可能会出现估值重置和恐慌。视频还探讨了如何保护投资组合免受通货膨胀的影响,包括税损收割策略和投资于生产性资产。沃伦·巴菲特(Warren Buffett)也分享了他对债券和货币市场账户在高通胀时期的看法,并预测股市在未来十年将会大幅上涨。
Takeaways
- 👑 投资女王Kathy Wood和电影《大空头》中由Christian Bale饰演的投资者Michael J. Burry是视频中讨论的两位重要人物。
- 📉 Burry因在2007年预见到银行危机并做空而知名,当时他因逆势操作而被嘲笑,但最终被证明是正确的。
- 💬 Burry在Twitter上发出了关于通货膨胀的警告,认为美国政府通过现代货币理论政策、高债务与GDP比率以及M2货币供应量的增加正在引发通货膨胀。
- 📈 他分享了M2货币供应量的图表,显示了美国家庭的流动性在2020年的急剧增加,暗示这可能导致通货膨胀。
- 🎲 Burry还警告说,投机性股票泡沫和过度借贷可能导致市场不稳定,他通过图表展示了股票市场和保证金债务达到历史高点时市场回调的历史模式。
- 🤔 他指出消费者并不预期通货膨胀,历史上对通货膨胀的预测一直是华尔街的“寡妇制造者”交易,意味着这样的预测通常不会带来投资收益。
- 👵 Kathy Wood提到将会有估值重置和恐慌,这引起了市场的关注,因为她被视为市场中最具有前瞻性和乐观的投资者之一。
- 📊 她讨论了联邦基金利率上升对股票的影响,暗示如果利率上升,她投资的公司可能会经历估值重置。
- 🔄 Wood提出了她的投资策略,即在严重的市场调整期间,她会卖出亏损的股票并将资金投入到她最有信心的公司中,这是一种减税策略。
- 🏦 Burry和Warren Buffett都认为,在高通货膨胀期间,长期政府债券不是一个好的投资选择,而实物资产和股票通常能带来更好的回报。
- 💼 Buffett强调,投资于生产性企业是长期内获得回报的可靠方式,而将资金存放在储蓄账户或货币市场账户中注定会失败。
- 📊 根据Buffett在2011年的预测,过去十年股市大幅上涨,而短期国债的回报微不足道,这证明了他的预测是正确的。
- 🚀 视频作者表达了对股市未来十年继续上涨的信心,并计划继续投资于他们认为将会增长并为投资者带来良好回报的公司。
Q & A
谁是Kathy Wood,她为何被称为投资女王?
-Kathy Wood是著名的投资者,被称为投资女王,因为她在投资领域的卓越表现和前瞻性思维。
电影《大空头》中由Christian Bale扮演的角色原型是谁?
-电影《大空头》中Christian Bale扮演的角色原型是Dr. Michael J. Burry,他因在2007年预见并做空大型银行而知名。
Dr. Michael J. Burry最近在Twitter上发出了什么警告?
-Dr. Michael J. Burry最近在Twitter上发出了关于通货膨胀的警告,他指出美国政府正在通过现代货币理论政策、债务与GDP比率以及M2货币供应量的增加来引发通货膨胀。
根据Dr. Burry的推文,为什么他认为当前的通货膨胀是一个问题?
-Dr. Burry认为当前的通货膨胀是一个问题,因为美国政府正在实施的政策导致了大量刺激措施和需求的增加,同时供应链成本飙升,这可能会导致通货膨胀的加剧。
在Dr. Burry分享的图表中,M2货币供应量在过去一年中有何显著变化?
-在过去一年中,M2货币供应量出现了异常的增长,这种增长相当于正常六年的增长量,这表明家庭的流动性在一年内大幅增加,这可能会导致货币价值下降,从而引发通货膨胀。
Dr. Burry提到的投机性股票泡沫和过度借贷有何联系?
-Dr. Burry认为,投机性股票泡沫会导致投资者承担过多的债务,这种行为在市场达到顶峰时尤为明显,这可能会导致市场不稳定,甚至出现重大回调。
Kathy Wood在采访中提到了哪些可能影响市场的因素?
-Kathy Wood在采访中提到了估值重置和市场恐慌,她认为如果利率上升,那么之前表现出色的股票可能会受到影响,估值可能会下降。
Kathy Wood的投资策略是什么,特别是在面对高通胀或估值重置时?
-Kathy Wood的投资策略是在市场出现严重调整时,出售那些不是她最有信心的公司的股票,并将所得资金投入到她最看好的公司中,这是一种税收损失收获策略。
根据Dr. Burry和Warren Buffett的观点,高通胀时期应该避免哪些投资?
-根据Dr. Burry和Warren Buffett的观点,在高通胀时期,应该避免投资于长期政府债券,因为它们通常在高通胀时期表现最差。
Warren Buffett在2011年对投资的建议是什么,他的预测在过去十年中是否准确?
-Warren Buffett在2011年建议投资者投资于好的企业,而不是债券或储蓄账户。他认为,长期来看,投资于生产性资产的人会获得胜利。过去十年的股市表现证明了他的预测是准确的,股市大幅上涨,而短期国债的回报几乎为零。
Outlines
😲 投资者对通胀的警告
本段讨论了两位著名投资者:Kathy Wood,被誉为投资女王,和Dr. Michael J. Burry,电影《大空头》中由Christian Bale扮演的角色。Burry因在2007年预见并做空银行而知名,他最近在Twitter上发出了关于通胀的警告。视频作者提到自己在股市的投资,并强调了Burry关于通胀的警告值得关注。Burry在推特上提到,美国政府通过现代货币理论政策、高债务与GDP比率以及M2货币供应量的增加,正在引发通胀。他还分享了M2货币供应量的图表,显示自1980年代以来,家庭流动性的增长,尤其是在2020年的异常增长,暗示了通胀的可能性。
📉 股市与通胀的关联
第二段中,视频作者继续探讨了Burry关于通胀的警告,包括投机性股票泡沫和过度借贷的问题。Burry警告说,市场正处于刀刃上,被动投资的智商流失和股票只涨不跌的炒作增加了市场的风险。此外,作者提到了Kathy Wood的观点,她预测将会有估值重置和市场恐慌。Wood认为,如果联邦基金利率上升,那么她投资的公司将面临估值重置,市盈率将会下降。作者强调了估值重置对投资者投资组合的影响,并提出了对市场未来走向的担忧。
🏦 投资策略与通胀保护
在这一段中,视频作者探讨了在面临高通胀或估值重置时的保护资产策略。Kathy Wood提出了她的投资策略,即在严重的市场调整期间,她会卖出那些不是她最有信心的公司的股票,并将资金投入到她最有信心的公司中,这是一种税收损失收获策略。Burry和Warren Buffett都建议,在高通胀时期,投资者应该避免将资金投入到长期政府债券中,而应该选择实物资产或股票。Buffett特别强调,将资金投入到生产性企业中是长期获得回报的最佳方式,而将资金存入储蓄账户或货币市场账户则注定会失败。
📈 股市长期展望与投资策略
最后一段总结了作者对于通胀影响的思考和个人投资策略。作者认为,将大量资金存储在储蓄账户或货币市场账户中,长期来看将会付出高昂的代价,因为这些资金的价值会随着时间的推移而逐渐减少。相反,投资于生产性资产将随着时间的推移而获得胜利。作者引用了Warren Buffett在2011年的预测,即股市在未来10年内将会大幅上涨,这一预测在过去的10年中得到了证实。基于这些分析,作者计划继续投资于他看好的公司,如迪士尼、Costco、耐克和苹果等,并在市场出现重大回调时,采用类似于Kathy Wood的策略,卖出非核心持股,并将所得资金投入到核心持股中,以此降低税负并增强投资组合的核心持股。
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Keywords
💡投资
💡通货膨胀
💡股市
💡债务与GDP比率
💡流动性
💡投机性股票泡沫
💡联邦基金利率
💡估值重置
💡税损收割
💡实际资产
Highlights
本集节目讨论了两位投资者:被誉为投资女王的Kathy Wood和电影《大空头》中由演员Christian Bale扮演的投资者Michael J. Burry。
Michael J. Burry因在2007年预见到银行的失败而闻名,当时他因做空银行而受到嘲笑和质疑。
Burry在Twitter上发出关于通货膨胀的警告,他提到人们没有听从他过去的警告。
Burry警告的核心是通货膨胀问题,他通过一系列推文阐述了通货膨胀的原因和影响。
美国政府通过现代货币理论政策、高债务与GDP比率以及M2货币供应量的增加来邀请通货膨胀。
M2货币供应量图表显示了美国家庭的流动性,2020年的增长速度异常,是过去六年正常增长的六倍。
Burry指出,当市场上的钱变多时,美元的价值通常会下降,这是通货膨胀的本质。
Burry还警告了投机性股票泡沫和过度借贷的问题,这可能导致市场不稳定。
他分享的图表显示,标普500指数和保证金债务都达到了历史新高,这可能预示着市场的回调。
消费者并不预期通货膨胀,这与1970年代的情况不同,当时许多人都在赌通货膨胀。
Kathy Wood在采访中提到,将会有一个估值重置,并且会有恐惧,这引起了市场的担忧。
Kathy Wood认为,如果利率急剧上升,我们将看到估值重置,她的投资组合将是重置的主要候选。
估值重置意味着她所投资的公司将面临市盈率和未来收益的下降。
Kathy Wood的策略是在严重市场调整期间,卖出亏损的股票,并将资金投入到她最有信心的公司。
Burry建议,在高通胀期间,长期政府债券不是一个好的投资选择,而实物资产和股票通常表现更好。
沃伦·巴菲特在2011年表示,在高通胀预期下,购买债券是愚蠢的,而投资于生产性企业是更好的选择。
巴菲特预测,10年后股市将会更高,而短期国债的回报几乎为零,这与过去10年的实际表现相符。
总结来看,将大量资金存放在储蓄账户或短期投资中,长期来看会付出高昂的代价。
投资于生产性资产,长期来看会获得胜利,巴菲特在2011年就明确表示,投资于公司的人将在未来10年内获得回报。
作者计划继续投资,不担心短期交易,如果市场出现重大回调,将采用类似于Kathy Wood的策略。
作者将继续投资于他认为将在未来10年内为投资者提供良好回报的公司,如迪士尼、好市多、耐克和苹果等。
Transcripts
there's two people i want to talk about
in today's episode one is kathy wood the
queen of investing
and the other one is dr michael j bury
the investor that was played by the
actor christian bale
in the movie the big short now michael j
bury is known for going short the big
banks in 2007. he saw the impending doom
that nobody else seemed to see
and he was initially laughed at and
mocked because of his bet against the
banks
nobody could believe that the banks
would fail and as a result they thought
he was crazy well we know that the banks
did eventually fail
and dr bury was proven correct now years
later he's taken to twitter to give us
another warning
this one is pretty cryptic he says
things on twitter like this
just recently people say i didn't warn
last time
i did but no one listened so i warned
this time and still no one listens but i
will have proof
i warned what is he warning about he's
warning about
inflation that's what today's episode is
going to be about is inflation
now i have over 200 000 invested in the
stock market
in just my passive income account on my
secondary youtube channel i have another
account for that
that has sixty thousand dollars invested
all things total
i have around two hundred and seventy
thousand dollars in the stock market
so when michael bury is now giving us
these cryptic warnings
he's warning about inflation and he's
trying to outline a case
of why investors should pay attention to
it i think it's worth paying attention
to
i think it's worth diving in to see what
we can do to protect our portfolio and
our holdings from inflation
so let's first go ahead and look at some
of the things that he's been saying in
his first tweet he outlines the case for
inflation he says
the u.s government is inviting inflation
they're doing it with modern monetary
theory tinged policies
brisk debt to gdp ratio which is true we
have a lot of debt compared to the
amount of
gross domestic product that we have and
then m2 increases
he says trillions more stimulus and
reopening
to boost demand as employee and supply
chain costs skyrocket
and then he links some graphs to
illustrate this one of those charts that
bury shares
is called the m2 money supply and we're
looking at it right here
this shows basically how much liquidity
is in people's households
so the average u.s household how much
money do they have in their checking
account their saving account
and some type of money market fund or
anything like that it's just how much
liquidity they have
and you can see this since the 1980s the
amount of money that people have
generally goes up over time as inflation
goes up over
time and this is a gradual increase over
time
as we all know that we've had inflation
over the past 35 years
but we can see what michael bury's
highlighting in just the past year
if i zoom into the past 10 years it
illustrates this point more clearly
we see the normal levels of inflation
the amount of money going up over time
and then we get to 2020. look how steep
this increases
it doesn't follow the normal trend this
is about six years worth of normal
growth in the amount of liquidity that
households have
in just one year we skipped forward six
years
and i think that this is what dr berry
is referring to now i don't think you
need to be some type of legendary
investor like dr bury
to realize that when there's this much
more of something typically the value of
it has to go
down a little that's what inflation is
there's more money in people's
households there's more money going
around
and typically that puts downward
pressure on the value of a dollar
dr bury continues on with his warning
saying speculative stock bubbles
ultimately see the gamblers take on too
much
debt that's the big cue of whether or
not we see speculation in the market
people are wanting to return so bad
they're willing to take on more and more
debt
we've seen this not only on tick tock
with unwise investment choices
of people taking on massive amounts of
debt and race for easy money
but we also see it with major
corporations margin debt popularity
accelerates at peaks
and at this point the market is dancing
on a knife's edge he calls this a nice
edge
passive investing's iq drain and stocks
only go up hype
add to the danger so he's talking about
this overall trend of
stocks only going up and the fun that
people are having in the market
is contributing to this more careless
and risky behavior
if people actually start to believe that
stocks only go up
that is dangerous for the market and
then he also shares a graph that
illustrates this even more clearly
it shows the value of the s p 500 going
up to extreme highs
and then on the inverse it's difficult
to read because the red line is inversed
the amount of margin debt is also
increasing to record highs
and we can see how this is played out
throughout history both times in recent
history when the s p 500 has soared to
record highs
and the amount of margin debt that
investors are taking on has also soared
to record highs
the market eventually had a significant
pullback it had a significant downturn
we don't know for sure if that's going
to happen this time but it is something
to be aware of
that has been a pattern dr bury says
consumers do not
expect inflation this is a chart of the
five-year inflation
expectations by consumers so this chart
shows
uh what percentage of inflation people
expect and he says going back to the
last big one
that was in the 1970s the 1980s half of
us were not
alive during this last one two betting
on inflation has been a widowmaker trade
on wall street
so he's saying that not only do nobody
really expect significant amounts of
inflation
but even if you do expect inflation and
you're brave enough to say it
it usually means that you're not going
to get a lot of money you're not going
to get a lot of investments
it's a widowmaker trade on wall street
you become a little bit of a pariah
at that point so wall street really
doesn't have much of an incentive
to make a big prediction on inflation
now of course we don't know if michael
berry is right he could be giving a
warning that doesn't really pan out
but he's been pretty confident with
these type of predictions in the past
not only did he win on a huge bet
against the big smart banks like goldman
sachs but more recently he went against
a lot of other hedge funds
betting on a long position of gamestop
before reddit was involved
and gaining a 1 500 return in the
process
so he's somebody that i consider an
incredibly good investor
out of all the people you can follow on
twitter or actually pay attention to
this is one individual that i actually
do pay attention to what he's saying
i think that many of his decisions and
logic are very firmly grounded
now another investor that's no stranger
to headlines is kathy wood the queen of
investing
she recently said in an interview there
will be a valuation reset
there will be fear this has caused a lot
of people to be concerned a little bit
about the markets
when it comes from kathy wood who is
known to be one of the most
forward-thinking
optimistic investors in the market when
she says that there's going to be fear
and there's going to be a valuation
reset a lot of investors pay attention
to this news
here's the exact interview where she
talks about this valuation reset
it seems undeniable to me though that
you must be thinking about the impact
of higher rates on the kinds of stocks
that have been tried and true winners
for you all throughout
whether it's the signature fund the
fintech
innovation fund and even other areas
of the etfs that you have are you
worried that as rates go
up those stocks could come down he's
talking specifically about the federal
funds rate that's what he means by when
he's saying
the rate's going up the federal fund
rates over the past 20 years has gone
down dramatically
right now it's basically at zero it's at
point one percent
which is low as it can really go until
it starts to dip into the negatives
which the federal reserve
does not want to do when the federal
fund rate is low it helps spur
economic activity it makes money more
abundant companies can get loans easier
they can grow their revenues they can
pay
marketing and sales team to grow their
business that helps the economy
grow the problem is when the economy
starts to heat up too much
that causes inflation and the way that
the fed combats inflation
is by raising the federal funds rate if
we see significant inflation in the u.s
the federal reserve will be forced to
raise the federal funds rate
so dr berry is in essence predicting
that the federal reserve will be forced
to raise the federal funds rate
now kathy wood is being asked what
happens if that happens
what happens if the federal funds rate
starts to increase
well i i do believe if rates were to
take a sharp
turn up uh that we would we would see
evaluation reset and our portfolios
would
would be prime candidates for that
valuation reset of course
what she means by valuation reset is
that the multiples her companies are
trading at the ones she's invested in
they will be contracted they will come
down to a much lower p e ratio
a much lower forward earnings and i of
course think kathy wood is correct
there's two basic reasons that i believe
stocks go up or down
the first one is because the company's
growing or declining if a company grows
and it has more customers
more revenue more earnings that company
is going to go up in value
the number two reason that the stock
either goes up or down is multiple
expansion or contraction
this means that every company is traded
on a multiple the price to earnings the
price to sales
every company is given a multiple by
investors that's what they're willing to
pay for that company
that can change over time based on
certain sentiment about the company
i can give you a couple examples apple
for instance throughout most of its
history has traded at a p
e ratio a price to earnings of around
anywhere from eight
to like 15. even as recent as 2018 it
was trading at a 12
price to earnings right now it's trading
at a 30. that means that apple's stock
has over doubled in value without
doubling the amount of earnings or the
amount of sales
they've just doubled in value now i
think there's specific reasons why
even though apple hasn't doubled their
sales they have moved to a more
subscription model
which makes the stock usually trade at a
higher multiple
this is an example of a company being
re-rated investors have looked at the
stock and said
there's certain things going on that
makes us willing to pay more for the
same amount of earnings
that happened with apple and you're also
seeing that happen with disney
as they move to a subscription model
that makes the investors re-rate the
stock
and the multiples might go up what kathy
what is saying in this interview
is that if inflation spikes and that
federal fund rate has to go
up it might cause investors to re-rate
these type of growth stocks
to much lower multiples now again going
back to my portfolio i think i have a
decent amount of money in the stock
market
and i care about protecting this money
so when i hear talks about
inflation on the rise valuation resets
multiple contractions that starts
putting off alarm bells
what do i do in that situation to
protect my money and my assets
that i spent a lot of time building up
well that's what we're going to talk
about
let's first take a look at kathy wood's
investing strategy if we get into a
situation of high inflation or the high
federal funds rate
that causes a valuation reset she
believes that this will eventually
happen
so she's not predicting that this isn't
going to happen she's ready for it and
here's her investing strategy
when it does eventually happen what we
will do during a correction especially a
severe correction
like the coronavirus crisis presented
we will sell names in which which are
creating losses now because
again we've bought them we've
diversified and bought them more
recently
sell those names creating losses to buy
our highest conviction names
what she's outlining is basically a tax
loss harvesting strategy
meaning that she has a lot of stocks
she's invested in when we do eventually
have some type of valuation reset or
recession
she's going to sell out of the companies
that are not her biggest convictions
companies that she basically holds
to just have some cash on hand that can
rise up with inflation
she will sell out of those companies and
then put that money
into her biggest convictions in doing so
she'll take on a realized loss and lower
her tax burden
that is the strategy that kathy wood
plans on doing in the next recession
now dr bury also gives his input on
where we should have our money during
high levels of inflation
he says historically this chart that's
on the screen
shows a good place to be during
significant but relative level of
inflation
so this is a historical chart he says it
may be a little bit different in the
future
but historically long-term government
bonds have been the worst place to put
your money
during high levels of inflation and real
assets are typically what's returned
best
owning real estate and high levels of
inflation seems to be a really good
hedge
but owning stocks isn't a bad place to
be either large cap stocks and small cap
seem to return positively during high
levels of inflation
now michael berry is not the only
notable investor that thinks that bonds
are not the place to be during high
levels of inflation
warren buffett in 2011 gave his input on
where your money should be
if we see inflation so there's a lot of
cash out there actually it's sitting on
the
books of the banks it's sitting on the
balance sheets of corporations and
sitting at the fed
a trillion and a half exactly so um
there
it could if if if people were afraid it
sparked
inflation it could be ignited into fears
of of the fact that there's just so much
money credit created that we could have
inflation uh
but it's sitting there right now
primarily because
i think that we go back to that thing
where we started confidence
do you fee are are you a bond buyer now
at these levels do you worry about
inflation do you worry about the dollar
it's idiotic to buy bonds okay
he just frankly says it's idiotic to buy
bonds and he continues on
hammering this point down that bonds are
not the place to be
no i mean the one thing i can i can tell
you very
few things for sure in economics one
thing i guarantee you is that the value
of the dollar will be less
10 20 50 years from now than it is now i
mean there's any question about that so
it is
so we know that warren buffett does not
like having his money in bonds
especially during
predicted high levels of inflation but
where does he like having his money
the answer i think is pretty obvious so
what are you doing to hedge your bets
i just own good businesses he goes on to
outline how having your money in
productive
businesses is proven to work while
having your money in savings accounts
and money market accounts
is doomed to fail you've got you've got
a few choices you can go with fixed
dollars one way or another your money
market funds
bonds anything else that's guaranteed to
not work
it's so funny i mean people it's funny
for the people who do it but when you
put your money in something that's
supposedly safe if you put your money in
a money market if under treasury bills
now that that is guaranteed
to go south you can buy farms you can
buy
apartment houses duplexes various kinds
of real estate or you can buy good
businesses
and or you can buy little pieces of good
businesses now among that choice
good businesses are the cheapest by some
margin
now this interviewer seems somewhat
shocked by his response
so definitively saying that bonds are
not worth it that they're destined to
fail
and the same thing with money market
accounts or savings accounts
that those are going to be worth less
money in the future but warren buffett
goes on to make another
definitive claim about the future okay
so
so what do you does that give you an
outlook for the uh
stock market over the next 10 years have
you know the dollar okay
yeah ten years from now it'll be a lot
higher i just don't know about 10 months
from now
okay he says 10 years from now the stock
market's going to be a lot
higher i just don't know about 10 months
from now well luckily for us this
interview was in 2011
exactly 10 years ago so we can see if
this prediction was correct and of
course warren buffett was correct if we
go back to 2011
since this interview took place the
stock market's up nearly 200 percent
without dividends being reinvested that
is a significant increase over the past
decade
but we can also look at buffett's
prediction of short-term treasuries
since 2011 the short-term treasury etf
has only returned
1.1 that's barely any gain and that's a
significant loss if you're factoring in
inflation
so buffett was correct on both accounts
the stock market and productive
companies went up over 10 years
and the people that kept their money in
savings or short-term treasuries
or quote-unquote safe assets lost a lot
of money over that time period
they lost not only a lot of value due to
inflation but they lost a lot of
opportunity cost
so to summarize what i've learned
looking into this topic of inflation
is first of all there's a high price to
certainty if you store a large amount of
money in a savings account or a money
market account
or other short-term investments you're
going to pay a high price over a long
period of time
that money's value will be eaten away
day after day
if you have your money in productive
assets they win
over time warren buffett in 2011 said
confidently without question
that people that put their money into
companies will win
over the next 10 years they will get
returns that the stock market will be
much higher
and i believe this seems true today i
think the stock market will be much
higher over the next 10 years
so i plan on continuing to invest not
worrying too much about short-term
trading
and if we do have a significant pullback
if the stock market goes down 50
i plan on employing a strategy similar
to kathy wood
i'll sell out of holdings that i
consider not my core holdings
and i'll put the proceeds of those sales
into the companies i like the most
into my core holdings so i think that
will be a good opportunity to reduce my
tax burden
and build up the core holdings of my
portfolio but until that happens i
continue on with the same strategy
i continue on investing in companies
like disney costco
nike apple and other companies i think
will be very productive and give their
investors good returns
over the next 10 years so i hope this
video answered some of your questions
about inflation
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