The Truth About Dating in Your 30s & 40s

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6 Sept 202309:31

Summary

TLDRThe speaker addresses the common concern of whether it's too late to start practicing day game at the age of 35. He reassures that age is not a barrier and emphasizes that every step in improving one's social skills leads to a better life. He shares his personal experience, noting that even at 41, he is more successful in dating than ever before. The speaker encourages taking action now, highlighting that the journey itself is rewarding and that progress in social skills can be rapid with dedication. He also points out that starting later in life can come with certain advantages, such as greater financial stability and life experience.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ˜€ Starting 'day game' at 35 is not too late; it's about personal growth and improvement, not just about age.
  • ๐Ÿถ The saying 'you can't teach an old dog new tricks' is a myth; it's possible to learn and change habits at any age, though it might take more time.
  • ๐Ÿ’ก The fear of running out of time or not being 'good enough' by a certain age is unfounded; improvement in social skills can happen at any stage of life.
  • ๐ŸŽฏ The speaker, at 41, is dating more attractive and eligible partners now than in his 20s or 30s, suggesting that age is not a barrier to a fulfilling social life.
  • ๐Ÿš€ Early progress in 'game' can lead to significant life improvements, such as better motivation, fewer excuses, and more creative problem-solving.
  • ๐ŸŒฑ Even if it takes until 40 to become advanced, the journey itself brings substantial benefits, including increased confidence and social skills.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ The speaker emphasizes that 'game' is not binary; there are many levels of proficiency, each bringing its own set of benefits and life improvements.
  • ๐Ÿ‹๏ธโ€โ™‚๏ธ Comparing 'game' to fitness, it's never too late to start and every step towards improvement enhances one's life, regardless of the final level achieved.
  • ๐Ÿ’ผ Starting 'game' later in life may have advantages, such as being more established in one's career and having more life experience to offer.
  • ๐Ÿ” The speaker advises that if you're 35 and considering starting 'game,' you should do so with the understanding that the journey will be beneficial regardless of the time it takes to master it.
  • ๐Ÿš€ A dedicated beginner can expect to reach an intermediate level within a year, capable of forming relationships with desirable partners, with the journey itself being rewarding.

Q & A

  • Is it too late to start practicing day game at the age of 35?

    -No, it's not too late. The speaker emphasizes that every step of progress in day game improves life, and significant changes can be seen even within the first few months of starting.

  • What is the speaker's perspective on the idea that older people find it harder to change their habits?

    -The speaker agrees that it might take longer for older individuals to change ingrained habits, but it is still possible. They use the analogy of teaching an old dog new tricks to illustrate this point.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the concern of running out of time to get good at day game?

    -The speaker questions the concern, pointing out that even if someone becomes good at day game at 39 or 40, it's not a problem as there's plenty of social life beyond that age.

  • What is the speaker's view on the benefits of starting day game, even if one doesn't reach an advanced level?

    -The speaker believes that the benefits of starting day game are immediate and life-changing, with every bit of growth leading to a better life, regardless of not reaching an advanced level.

  • How does the speaker describe the impact of day game on their life?

    -The speaker shares that day game has made them a different person, with improved motivation, perspective, and problem-solving skills, affecting not just their social life but also other areas like sales and handling adversity.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the timeline for seeing progress in day game?

    -The speaker suggests that significant progress can be seen within weeks or months, and it's not necessary to wait until reaching an expert level to enjoy the benefits.

  • What is the speaker's advice for someone who is 35 and considering starting day game?

    -The speaker advises that it's never too late to start and that the best time to start is now, emphasizing that the journey itself is rewarding and life-enhancing.

  • How does the speaker compare the process of learning day game to getting in shape?

    -The speaker compares learning day game to getting in shape by stating that while one might not become an Olympic athlete, the process of getting in better shape is beneficial and life-improving.

  • What are the potential advantages of starting day game later in life, according to the speaker?

    -The speaker suggests that starting day game later in life might come with advantages such as being more established in the world, having a better job, financial stability, and more life experience to offer.

  • What is the speaker's final note on starting day game at 35?

    -The speaker's final note is that even though it would have been nice to start sooner, there are advantages to starting later, and there's no excuse not to start now.

Outlines

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๐Ÿค” Overcoming Age-Related Concerns in Learning Day Game

The speaker addresses a common concern about starting to learn day game at the age of 35, questioning if it's too late and if one would only become proficient later in life. They empathize with the frustration and aim to provide a definitive answer. The speaker refutes the idea that older individuals cannot change habits or learn new skills, using the 'teach an old dog new tricks' analogy. They argue that while it might take more time to unlearn old habits, it's entirely possible to improve. They also challenge the notion of a deadline for skill acquisition, suggesting that even if one becomes good at 39 or 40, it's not a problem, as they personally are dating more attractive and eligible women now than ever before. The speaker emphasizes that every step in learning day game brings significant improvements to one's life, not just in dating but in overall social skills and personal growth. They encourage the audience to focus on the journey and the continuous enhancement of life that comes with learning day game, rather than fixating on reaching an expert level.

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๐Ÿ’ช The Value of Starting Late and the Progression in Game

The speaker extends the discussion on starting day game later in life by drawing parallels to other areas of self-improvement, such as fitness and financial health. They argue that while it might be too late to become an Olympic athlete, the benefits of getting in shape at any age are immense. The speaker encourages the audience to start their journey in day game, emphasizing that the best time to start is now, regardless of age. They provide a realistic timeline for progress, suggesting that with dedication, one can reach an intermediate level within a year and predictably form relationships with desirable partners. The speaker also highlights the advantages of starting later in life, such as being more established and having more life experience to offer. They conclude by urging the audience to take action and start their journey in day game, as the rewards are well worth the effort.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กDay game

Day game refers to the practice of approaching and engaging with potential romantic partners during daytime hours, typically in social settings outside of traditional nightlife venues. In the video, the concept is central to the discussion about whether it's too late to start developing social and dating skills at the age of 35. The speaker emphasizes that starting day game at any age can lead to significant improvements in one's social life and personal growth.

๐Ÿ’กHabits

Habits are regular patterns of behavior that have become almost automatic through frequent repetition. In the context of the video, the speaker addresses the concern that as people age, their habits become more ingrained and potentially harder to change. However, the speaker counters this by stating that it's never too late to learn and adapt new behaviors, drawing a parallel to the saying 'you can't teach an old dog new tricks,' which is proven wrong by the speaker's experiences.

๐Ÿ’กSocial skills

Social skills are the abilities that enable people to interact effectively and harmoniously with others. The video discusses how engaging in day game can enhance one's social skills, not just in the context of dating but in various aspects of life such as sales and handling adversity. The speaker shares his personal transformation, illustrating how improving in day game led to broader improvements in his social abilities.

๐Ÿ’กPersonal growth

Personal growth refers to the process of improving one's character, abilities, and overall quality of life. The video's theme revolves around the idea that starting day game, regardless of age, can lead to personal growth. The speaker provides his perspective as evidence, stating that his life improved significantly from practicing day game, even beyond the dating context.

๐Ÿ’กAttraction

Attraction in this context refers to the ability to draw interest and appeal from others, particularly in a romantic sense. The video mentions 'sparking attraction on command' as a skill that can be learned through day game, which can change one's interactions with potential partners and enhance the overall dating experience.

๐Ÿ’กAdversity

Adversity refers to difficulties, challenges, or misfortunes that one may face in life. The speaker in the video suggests that learning day game has made him better at handling adversity, implying that the skills and mindset developed through day game can be applied to overcoming life's obstacles.

๐Ÿ’กDedication

Dedication is the commitment and devotion to a task or purpose. In the video, the speaker emphasizes that dedication is key to making progress in day game. He suggests that with dedication and hard work, one can achieve significant improvements in their social and dating life within a year.

๐Ÿ’กProgress

Progress refers to the act of moving forward or improving in some way. The video discusses the concept of progress in the context of day game, stating that every step forward, regardless of how small, leads to an enhancement in one's life. The speaker illustrates this with his own journey, where even the early stages of learning day game led to life-changing improvements.

๐Ÿ’กAge

Age is a measure of how old someone or something is. The video addresses the concern about starting day game at the age of 35, suggesting that it's never too late to begin. The speaker uses age as a point of comparison, stating that even though he started at a younger age, the benefits of starting at 35 are still substantial and can lead to a better social life.

๐Ÿ’กExpert level

Expert level indicates a high degree of skill or knowledge in a particular area. The video discusses the misconception that one must reach an expert level in day game to see benefits. The speaker argues that even without reaching an expert level, the journey towards improvement in day game brings about significant and immediate life enhancements.

๐Ÿ’กMotivation

Motivation is the reason or reasons one has for acting or behaving in a particular way. In the video, the speaker mentions that starting day game changed his motivation, suggesting that engaging in this practice can lead to a shift in one's drive and perspective on life, making them more proactive and solution-oriented.

Highlights

The question of whether it's too late to start day game at 35 is addressed.

The idea that older habits are harder to change is compared to the saying 'can you teach an old dog new tricks'.

The speaker asserts that it is possible to learn new social skills at any age, just as with teaching an old dog new tricks.

The concern about running out of time to become good at day game is discussed.

The speaker shares his personal experience, being successful at day game at the age of 41.

The importance of every step of progress in day game is emphasized, as it improves life quality.

The speaker describes his life-changing experience after starting to approach girls.

The concept of game as a tool for overall personal growth, not just with women, is introduced.

The misconception of game as a binary skill (either you have it or you don't) is refuted.

The speaker explains that game is a spectrum with many shades of improvement.

A parallel is drawn between starting day game and getting in shape at an older age.

The speaker argues that it's never too late to start improving any aspect of life, including day game.

The timeline for a beginner to reach an intermediate level in day game is discussed as less than a year.

The speaker mentions potential advantages of starting day game at an older age, such as better financial stability and life experience.

A call to action for older individuals to start day game and take advantage of their current life stage.

The speaker concludes by encouraging immediate action and dismissing the idea that it's too late to start.

Transcripts

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today's question reflects a huge

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frustration that I know a lot of my

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audience has and it's also a frustration

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for me to answer it so let's just get it

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off both of our chests and answer it

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once and for all here's the question

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is 35 too late to start day game will I

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only get really good at like 39 or 40.

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so I understand where this question is

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coming from on about 10 different levels

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and none of them are really good or

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useful but it is an important question

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because it does get asked a lot and it

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is a concern that people have and the

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idea here I think is a few things number

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one there's this idea that as you get

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older your habits get more ingrained and

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it gets harder to change them right this

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whole like can you teach an old dog new

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tricks thing and the answer to that

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question in the dog sense is yes you can

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it just takes longer because you have to

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unwind more habits but yes you can teach

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an old dog new tricks all right so that

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in that sense yes it can be done yes you

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can learn at that age the second

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question the way it's phrased is am I

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gonna run out of time is there some sort

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of Runway and if I don't hit the end of

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it at enough speed I'm gonna crash it

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will I only be good at 39 or 40. well I

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would ask the asker of this question so

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what if you get good at 39 or 40 is that

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a problem I'm currently 41 and granted

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yes I would say like I'm not just good

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at this I'm probably hopefully a

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world-class level at this point but I am

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dating more attractive more eligible

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girls now than I ever have at any point

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in my life even when I was in my 20s and

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good at this or in my 30s and good at

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this right so it's not like you know you

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jump off a cliff at 40 and there's no

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more social life for you right there's

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plenty of social life past 40. even if

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you did take till 39 or 42 get good at

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this so that's not really a deal breaker

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either but my biggest answer to this

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question is this what do you mean when

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you say I will only get good or really

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good by Third nine or 40 because here's

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the truth about game every single step

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of the way every single bit of progress

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you make your life gets better and

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actually at the start you're making

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tremendous leaps and your life is

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getting enormously better okay when I

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first started approaching girls granted

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yes I was 18 not 35 but when I first

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started approaching girls it was utterly

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an absolutely life-changing I was a

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different person three months into it

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than I was three months before and that

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is not an exaggeration I had different

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motivation I saw the world differently I

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made fewer excuses I found more and

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better and Creative Solutions I saw the

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things I was learning in game affecting

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the rest of my life and making me better

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at social skills in general better at

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sales better at handling adversity what

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game will do for you quickly is

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absolutely out of this world it's

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absolutely insane what game will do for

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you quickly even if you don't get to an

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advanced level at it every step along

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the way every bit of growth you're going

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to get in game especially the early

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stuff is life-changing right so yeah if

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you could start at 35 and it would take

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you to 40 to be

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Advanced or world class or whatever

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which by the way it shouldn't even take

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that long if you're really dedicated but

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let's assume it would take you that long

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well who cares because in three months

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or six months you still will have made

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massive progress and in three months or

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six months you'll be getting more dates

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and let's say that you started doing Day

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game and you started getting more

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comfortable talking to girls and more

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charismatic and you didn't even get a

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lot of dates from Day game but let's say

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you were getting a slow trickle of dates

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from your Social Circle throughout your

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life you would probably triple it or

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quadruple or quintuple or ten times that

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just from doing Day game and from being

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more social as well right and maybe

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you're 10 times in one day a year and

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now it's 10 Dates a year as still a

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pretty damn big improvements the point

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is this if you're looking at it as like

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okay I have to get to expert level and

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that's my that's my be-all and end-all

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and that's all I want out of game that's

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not understanding fundamentally how

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beautiful game is because the thing

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about game is every single step is such

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an enhancement getting from low level

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beginner to high level beginner will

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change your life getting from high level

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beginner to intermediate will absolutely

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completely turn your life upside down in

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a good way and getting from intermediate

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to Advanced will take everything in your

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life to this insane ridiculous level

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that's how powerful game is as a tool

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for growth not only with women but in

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everything also by the way it should not

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take you four to five years to start

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seeing massive massive progress now

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depending what you consider really good

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if you consider really good world class

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yeah it may take you you know a long

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time to get there but to get to 80 of

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world class doesn't take really that

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long what you learn in game early on is

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truly life-changing right when you learn

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not to supplicate that will change your

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life when you learn that it's okay to

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talk to strangers and that there aren't

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huge consequences from that that will

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change your life in so many ways not

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just with women when you learn how to

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spark attraction on command as opposed

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to just crossing your fingers and

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waiting and hoping for a girl to like

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you it will blow your mind first of all

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it will also change how you walk through

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the world in a way that you will never

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go back don't think of game as this

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binary either I have zero or I have one

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right I have either have game or I don't

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have Gamers opposite from the way I do

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it the other way but regardless it's not

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something you either have or don't have

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there's this huge gray area at every

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step of gray every shade of gray along

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that gray area is massive life progress

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so I really want to emphasize I think as

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I said that six different ways at this

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point but if you're viewing game the way

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that the asker of this question is

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viewing game you're not getting anywhere

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near the value you're going to at a game

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just to give you my perspective on this

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is someone that's seen people grow in

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game I'm gonna give you a similar but

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different question that I think we all

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know the answer to and I want to show

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you how they're very similar right if

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someone were to come to you and let's

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say they are massively out of shape

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they're obese and in poor health and

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they really are like you know starting

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to become sickly and get diseases from

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being in poor health and they're like

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look I'm 35 is it too late for me to get

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in shape is it too late for me to get in

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the gym and the answer is it is probably

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too late for them to become an Olympic

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athlete that ship has probably sailed

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that ship probably sailed a couple

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decades ago and it probably sailed about

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a hundred pounds ago right they are not

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going to become a world-class athlete

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however getting in the gym and getting

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in shape is probably the single best

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thing they can do and one of the single

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most important decisions they can make

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and if they you know started at let's

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say 400 pounds and they got themselves

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down to 300 over a course of many years

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that would be tremendous for their life

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and they would still be overweight and

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they would still be out of shape and

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they would still not be a world-class

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athlete but their life would be so much

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better right the question is okay I'm 35

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is it too late well look it would have

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been better if you started earlier yes

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it would have been better if you started

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earlier that would have been great but

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you can't you can't go back in time

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nobody has a time machine and think

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think of it this way if you're worried

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that 35 is too late ask yourself this if

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I get to 45 how much worse is that right

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so whatever time it is is the right time

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for you to start game in the same way

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that whatever moment it is is the right

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time for you to start getting healthy

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and getting in shape and yes it would

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have been great if you lived your whole

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life healthy and yes it would have been

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great if you learned game from you know

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a mentor when you were two years old and

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never even had to study it formally

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because it was just like in your bones

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right that would be great but if you're

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not there you have to make the right

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decision from the place where you are

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and the answer to both those questions

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I'll give you a third one as well right

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should I get fit and when should I start

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yes and now should I start being

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financially better and when should I

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start working on it yes and now and

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third one should I start working on game

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and win yes and now okay these are

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massive areas of growth in your life and

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yeah it would have been great if you

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started them earlier in all cases but

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since you didn't and since you're at

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this moment the best decision you can

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make is to start now okay so that

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answers the main part of this question

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because it is sort of obliquely asked

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I'll answer this as well how long will

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it really take you to get to a decent

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level in game if you are a typical

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beginner and again all beginners are

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different some beginners have like

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literally no social experience of any

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kind they lived like under Rock their

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whole lives some beginners are actually

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really good with you know guys and

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social situations are just not

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particularly good with girls and those

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are two very different cases however for

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just about any beginner who's dedicated

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and willing to put in the work to get to

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intermediate you should be able within a

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period of less than a year to get to a

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place where if you're willing to do

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enough approaches you can predictably

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get into relationships with cute

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desirable girls you should be able to do

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at least that within a year if you're

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willing to put your ego aside do the

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work and be smart about it and by the

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way for a lot of you it'll be a lot

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quicker so that's that's the extreme

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case we're talking within a year some of

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you it could be weeks or months for sure

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it depends how hard you want to work how

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smart you want to work it depends a

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little bit where you're starting from

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but really if you commit to this journey

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you can get there and you can get there

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a lot faster than you think and again as

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I mentioned before the rewards along the

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way will be amazing and will keep you on

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the journey final note if you are

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starting game at 35 I'm not going to

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like blow smoke up your ass and say that

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it's better that you're starting now

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than if you started younger however I

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will say you do probably have some

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advantages over starting younger because

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you're probably more established in the

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world you probably have a better job you

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probably have a better financial

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situation you probably have more life

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experience and more things you can bring

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into a girl's life than you did when you

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were younger so in that sense your

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progress actually should be faster yes

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it would have been nice to have started

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sooner I'm not gonna lie that would have

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been the case but you do have some

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advantages being an older guy as well so

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don't overlook those so all you old

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farts get out there there's no excuse by

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the way if you're 35 you're actually

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younger than me so I'm the old fart but

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yeah get out there take action it's the

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right thing to do start and start now

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please for yourself so that was actually

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more fun to answer than I thought it was

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going to be if you have questions post

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them below and I will get to those

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questions that is where I get a lot of

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the content for that channel thanks for

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being here see you on the next one

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