Youtube's Legal Team sent me a letter! 😃

Louis Rossmann
1 May 202411:16

Summary

TLDR视频脚本讨论了与YouTube和Google的法律团队之间的通信往来,涉及一个名为grj的应用程序,该程序允许用户下载YouTube内容,这违反了YouTube的服务条款。Futo公司代表grj应用回应称,他们尊重内容创作者的权利,并愿意与YouTube合作,但他们认为grj并未违反任何条款,因为它不使用YouTube API服务。视频还提出了一些关于在线平台的问题,如内容创作者被随意封禁、用户评论被删除以及付费用户反而得到更差体验的问题。Futo公司表示他们正在通过开发grj应用来解决这些问题,而不是仅仅抱怨。他们强调grj是开源的,不存储用户数据,并鼓励用户为有价值的内容付费。最后,Futo公司表明他们不会下架grj应用,并愿意为此进行法律斗争。

Takeaways

  • 📜 收到YouTube法律团队的信件,指出Futo公司开发的grj应用程序允许下载YouTube内容,违反了YouTube的服务条款。
  • 💡 Futo公司回应称,grj应用程序的开发不受YouTube API服务条款和开发者政策的控制,因为该应用程序并未使用YouTube API服务。
  • 🚫 Futo公司拒绝停止提供grj应用程序,强调尊重内容创作者的权利,并愿意与YouTube合作以进一步维护创作者的利益。
  • 🤔 Futo公司对YouTube平台的一些问题提出了批评,包括内容创作者被随意封禁、规则执行不公以及沟通不畅。
  • 💥 Futo公司提到,他们正在开发解决方案来应对这些问题,而不是仅仅抱怨,比如通过grj应用程序聚合多个平台的内容,让用户在一个订阅源中查看所有内容。
  • 📱 Futo公司强调grj应用程序是开源的,用户可以选择是否为应用程序付费,同时希望用户能够为觉得有价值的内容创作者捐款。
  • 💰 Futo公司提到他们有足够的预算来聘请律师,并且有财力对抗YouTube的法律行动。
  • 🛡️ Futo公司表明他们不会关闭grj应用程序,并打算继续为客户提供服务。
  • 📉 讨论了内容创作者在平台上面临的风险,包括账户被随意删除,以及这对依赖平台作为生计的创作者的影响。
  • 📝 Futo公司提到他们对YouTube平台的不满,包括评论被删除和内容下载问题,以及对付费内容服务的不满。
  • 🏛️ Futo公司提到他们有能力通过法律途径来保护他们的应用程序和业务,并且在过去两年中已经在三个州通过了四项法律。
  • 📈 Futo公司表达了对YouTube平台的不满,并表明他们愿意采取行动来维护自己的利益和用户的权利。

Q & A

  • 视频中提到的grj应用是什么?

    -grj应用是由Futo公司开发和分发的,它允许用户下载YouTube上的内容。这个应用旨在帮助内容创作者与他们的粉丝建立联系,即使在他们的YouTube账户被随意封禁的情况下。

  • 为什么YouTube法律团队会联系Futo公司?

    -YouTube法律团队认为Futo公司的grj应用违反了YouTube的服务条款,允许用户下载YouTube内容,这可能会侵犯YouTube创作者的权利。他们要求Futo公司停止提供违反条款的服务,并在7天内纠正。

  • Futo公司如何回应YouTube法律团队的指控?

    -Futo公司回应称,他们在开发grj应用时并未使用YouTube API服务,因此不受YouTube的API服务条款和开发者政策的约束。他们认为没有违反任何条款,也没有理由停止提供grj应用。

  • Futo公司在视频中提到了哪些YouTube平台存在的问题?

    -Futo公司指出YouTube平台存在用户被随意封禁、规则执行不公、不明确告知用户具体规则等问题。此外,还有用户评论被无故删除,以及付费用户反而体验更差等问题。

  • Futo公司提出的解决方案是什么?

    -Futo公司提出的解决方案是开发grj应用,该应用可以聚合多个平台的内容,让用户在一个应用内就能看到所有关注创作者的内容,即使他们被某些平台封禁。此外,该应用还允许用户跨平台验证身份,实现统一的订阅内容流。

  • Futo公司如何看待内容创作者的权利?

    -Futo公司尊重内容创作者的权利,并且作为内容创作者自己,他们的口号是'跟随创作者,而非平台'。他们愿意与YouTube合作,以进一步维护创作者的权利和利益。

  • 视频中提到的'borderline personality disorder'是指什么?

    -在这里,'borderline personality disorder'(边缘型人格障碍)被用作比喻,指的是YouTube等平台的算法和管理模式似乎不稳定、不可预测,给内容创作者带来了不确定性和困扰。

  • Futo公司为什么不愿意删除他们收集的用户数据?

    -Futo公司声称他们的grj应用是开源的,并且不会存储任何用户数据。他们欢迎任何人查看应用的源代码来验证这一点。他们希望用户如果觉得应用有价值,可以选择支付,但他们也理解并允许用户免费使用。

  • Futo公司如何看待与Google或YouTube的法律争议?

    -Futo公司表示他们不是容易被吓倒的,他们已经准备好面对任何法律挑战。他们提到自己有财力聘请顶尖的法律团队,并且有信心在法律争议中占据优势。

  • Futo公司在视频中提到了哪些他们已经取得的成就?

    -Futo公司提到他们在过去的两年里,已经用100万美元的资金在三个州通过了四项法律,这显示了他们在法律和政策方面的影响力和决心。

  • 视频中提到的New Pipe或YouTube Van与grj应用有何不同?

    -Futo公司认为grj应用与New Pipe或YouTube Van等其他应用不同之处在于,grj应用不仅关注于解决创作者被随意封禁的问题,而且背后有一个实际的预算和专业的团队支持,他们有能力进行长期的法律和技术开发投入。

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📜 法律信函与应用开发争议

第一段主要讲述了视频制作者收到了来自YouTube法律团队的信函,该信函指出他们注意到了名为grj的产品或服务,该服务似乎允许下载YouTube内容,这违反了YouTube的服务条款。信中要求立即停止提供违反条款的服务,并在7天内删除所有违规获取的内容和数据。视频制作者代表Futo公司回应称,grj应用的开发不受YouTube条款的控制,因此无需遵守API服务条款和开发者政策。他们强调尊重内容创作者的权利,并愿意与YouTube合作,但认为没有理由停止提供grj应用。

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🚫 平台规则与内容创作者问题

第二段讨论了内容创作者在平台上面临的挑战,包括随意被封禁、规则执行不公以及缺乏透明度。视频制作者表达了对这些问题的不满,并介绍了他们开发的解决方案,即一个允许用户在单一订阅源中查看所有内容的应用程序。这个应用旨在解决创作者因平台随意封禁而失去生计的问题,并提供一个身份验证系统,让用户即使在创作者被平台删除后,也能继续查看他们的内容。

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💸 付费内容与用户体验问题

第三段中,视频制作者分享了他对付费内容和软件的不满,特别是他个人对于YouTube Premium的不满。他讲述了一个实例,即他在长途驾驶中使用YouTube Premium下载内容,却发现无法离线播放。这让他感到愤怒,并决定不再为YouTube Premium付费。视频制作者强调,他愿意为有价值的内容和软件付费,但反对那种付费越多、体验越差的现象。他还提到了他们的应用程序是开源的,用户可以选择不付费使用,但他们希望用户如果觉得应用有价值,会考虑付费或捐赠给内容创作者。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡YouTube

YouTube是一个视频分享平台,用户可以上传、分享和观看视频。在视频中,YouTube的法律团队向Futo公司发出了关于其产品grj的法律通知,因为该产品允许用户下载YouTube内容,这可能违反了YouTube的服务条款。

💡grj

grj是Futo公司开发和分发的一个应用程序,它允许用户下载YouTube视频。在视频中,这个应用程序成为了争议的焦点,因为YouTube认为它可能违反了其服务条款。

💡服务条款

服务条款是规定用户使用服务时必须遵守的规则和条件。在视频中,YouTube法律团队强调,所有使用其平台的服务,包括内容和API服务,都必须遵守YouTube的服务条款。

💡API服务

API服务是指应用程序编程接口,它允许不同的软件系统之间进行交互。在视频中,Futo公司被指控可能违反了YouTube的API服务条款,但Futo公司回应称其开发的grj应用程序并未使用YouTube的API服务。

💡内容创作者

内容创作者是指制作和发布原创内容(如视频、音频、文章等)的人。在视频中,Futo公司强调他们尊重内容创作者的权利,并希望通过grj应用程序帮助创作者与粉丝建立联系。

💡开放源代码

开放源代码指的是软件的源代码对公众开放,任何人都可以查看、修改和分发。在视频中,Futo公司提到grj应用程序是开放源代码的,这意味着用户可以自由地使用和修改它。

💡数据存储

数据存储指的是将数据保存在某种介质上以供日后使用。在视频中,Futo公司声明他们不会存储任何客户数据,无论是付费用户还是免费用户,这与开放源代码的精神相一致。

💡法律行动

法律行动指的是通过法律途径解决争议或问题。在视频中,Futo公司提到他们已经通过法律途径在三个州通过了四项法律,显示了他们在法律行动方面的决心和能力。

💡用户身份验证

用户身份验证是指确认用户身份的过程,以确保只有授权用户才能访问系统或服务。在视频中,Futo公司提到grj应用程序允许用户在不同平台上进行身份验证,以便在一个订阅源中查看所有内容。

💡内容删除

内容删除是指从平台或服务中移除内容的行为。在视频中,提到了YouTube平台有时会随意删除用户内容,这对依赖平台进行内容创作和生计的人来说是一个严重的问题。

💡多平台聚合

多平台聚合是指将来自不同平台的内容或服务整合到一个应用程序或服务中。在视频中,Futo公司通过grj应用程序提供了一个解决方案,允许用户在一个订阅源中查看来自不同平台的内容,即使某些内容在原始平台上被删除。

Highlights

YouTube法律团队向Futo公司发出警告,指出其产品grj允许下载YouTube内容,违反了YouTube的服务条款。

Futo公司回应称,grj应用的开发不受YouTube条款的控制,且未使用YouTube API服务。

Futo公司强调,他们尊重内容创作者的权利,并愿意与YouTube合作,以进一步维护创作者的权利和利益。

Futo公司指出,grj应用旨在帮助连接创作者和他们的粉丝,而不是违反YouTube的API服务条款和开发者政策。

Futo公司表达了对YouTube平台规则执行不公和缺乏透明度的担忧。

Futo公司提出了一个解决方案,即通过grj应用聚合多个平台,让用户在一个订阅源中查看所有内容,即使在其他平台上被删除。

Futo公司批评了YouTube平台在用户评论和内容管理方面的不一致性。

Futo公司创始人分享了个人对YouTube Premium服务不满的经历,尤其是下载内容在离线状态下无法使用的问题。

Futo公司强调,他们开发的grj应用是开源的,用户可以自由地使用,即使不支付费用。

Futo公司表示,他们不会删除任何客户数据,并邀请YouTube法律团队查看应用的源代码以证明其透明度。

Futo公司创始人表达了对当前数字内容和服务提供商的不满,认为付费用户往往得到更差的体验。

Futo公司透露,他们有足够的预算和资源来对抗可能的法律挑战,包括聘请昂贵的法律顾问。

Futo公司创始人提到,他已经在过去两年内用100万美元在三个州通过了四项法律。

Futo公司明确表示,他们不打算下架grj应用,并将继续为客户提供服务。

视频最后,Futo公司创始人鼓励观众思考grj应用与市场上其他类似应用的不同之处。

Futo公司强调,他们致力于解决创作者因平台随意封禁而面临的生计问题。

Futo公司创始人以幽默的语气结束了视频,表示他们不是在大学宿舍里创业的四个孩子。

Transcripts

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hey everybody how's it going I hope

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you're having a lovely day recently I

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did a video on a letter that we received

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from YouTube and Google about an

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application that I hired a couple of

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people to develop for the company that I

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currently work for and I read their

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letter as well as our response a few

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months ago they have S sent another one

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so I thought I would read it to you

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along with our response our past

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responses and just give a couple of

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rants from my side this is from YouTube

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or Google here it says the YouTube legal

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team to whom it may concern we recently

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became aware of your product or service

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grj your client which is being offered

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at gray J.A it appears your client

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allows downloading of YouTube content as

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you know you are required to comply with

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the YouTube terms of service at all

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times which are posted at youtube.com/

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t/ terms compliance includes without

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limitation not accessing modifying

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selling or otherwise using the services

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including any content and violation of

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the YouTube terms of service we strive

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to keep YouTube a safe responsible

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community and to encourage respect for

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the rights of millions of YouTube

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creators this requires compliance with

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the YouTube terms of service YouTube API

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Services terms of service and developer

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policies as applicable if applicable you

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must also delete any content including

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data that you may have gathered in

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violation of our terms policies and

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applicable laws please note that defined

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terms used in this letter will have the

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meanings assigned to them and the

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applicable terms and policies please

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immediately correct and cease offering

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your client that violates our terms and

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policies within seven days in bold print

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that Blackberry is not afraid of from

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the date of this letter if you are

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accessing or using the YouTube API

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services please please provide all the

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API project IDs for your client by

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responding to this letter sincerely the

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YouTube legal team to at May Concern I

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write on behalf of Futo which develops

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and distributes the grj app I am

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responding to your April 17th 2024 email

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to the grj support email address gray

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jutooru below I would first refer you to

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our response to the YouTube legal team

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similar letter of January 25th 2024 I

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have attached it here for ease of

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reference Futo received no reply to our

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response your latest message was also

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not as I then requested directed to this

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email address it being sent elsewhere

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delayed this response as we noted in

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that February 1st 2024 response Futo

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respects the right of content creators

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and welcomes the opportunity to

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cooperate with YouTube and furthering

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the rights and interest of creators then

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as now however Futo has no reason to

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cease offering grit as with the YouTube

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API Services terms of service and

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developer policies our developing this

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software is not controlled by the

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YouTube terms of service I again hope

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this clarification ends the matter and

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again request any further correspondence

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to be directed to this address for the

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quickest turnaround in response to go

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over the last response to this which I

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think was not read but probably thrown

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into a shredder by an intern uh I write

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on behalf of Futo which operates the

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Futo Tech YouTube account and

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distributes the gyj app I'm responding

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to your January 25th 2024 email your

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email alleges that gry J violates the

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YouTube ABI Services terms of service

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and developer policies it claims these

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supposed violations undermine the rights

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of millions of YouTube creators and ask

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fudo to cooperate with us by correcting

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and ceasing to offer grj Futo respects

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the rights of content creators we are

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content creators ourselves as is

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BlackBerry Gray's slogan is follow

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creators not platforms fudo welcomes the

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opportunity to cooperate with YouTube in

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furthering the rights and interests of

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content creators that said fudo has

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nothing to correct and no reason to

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cease offering grj which exists to help

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connect those same creators to their

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fans Futo never agreed to the API terms

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of service or developer policies in its

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development of gr as the name suggests

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the API terms of service only apply and

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I quote when accessing or using the

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YouTube API Services the developer

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policy similarly apply quote when

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accessing or using YouTube API services

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in your service product or application

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YouTube API Services is defined by a

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bunch of mumbo jumbo there fudo has not

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used any of these tools during its

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development of gry J as gray J does not

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use the YouTube API services and is not

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subject to the API terms of service and

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developer policies neither gry JN users

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nor Futo can violate them I hope this

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clarification ends this matter but I'm

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happy to discuss the issue further if

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you'd

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like there are several problems with

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this platform that I've talked about in

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several of my videos and instead of just

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complain about these problems what we've

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tried to do is actually come up with

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solutions for them one of them is the

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fact that people get banned willy-nilly

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and there is not really an uh an even or

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Fair enforcement of the rules and in

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many cases they don't even tell you

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exactly what the rules are for the type

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of content that you're allowed to post

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the very type of content that the

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algorithm recommends over other content

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winds up being content that breaks the

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rules being a you YouTube or hwit

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content creator is the closest you'll

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ever get to understanding what it will

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be like in the future to be managed by

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an artificial intelligence that has

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borderline personality disorder when you

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take a look at this or this or any

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number of other cases these platforms

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have deleted people willy-nilly and if

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we are used to using applications that

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only service one platform then the user

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is just going to stop viewing that

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content because of the friction to

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installing another application and

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installing another application

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installing another application and

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following everybody within two or four

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or six applications by aggregating

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platform to one application and more

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importantly giving users this Harbor

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application that allows them to verify

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their identity across platforms so you

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can see everybody's content within one

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subscription feed so even if they get

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deleted from these two platforms you can

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still see the content they posted the

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third one in one subscription feed we

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are solving this problem where creators

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have to worry about whether their

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accounts will be the leader willy-nilly

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whether it's these two creators or my

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good friend Eli the computer guy who had

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his channel deleted in the middle of a

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live stream for reasons that they

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couldn't even tell them this is a

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serious issue people have their

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livelihoods threatened completely when

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they decide to go all in on content

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creation which is one of the reasons

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that I don't I rely on my business I

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rely on work I rely on other things

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because I don't want my income to be

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determined by an AI that has borderline

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personality disorder second one common

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systems to be clear got a lot of work to

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do on this got a lot of work to do on

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this how many times have you posted a

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comment and not seen it a lot of you

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will email me and curse me out about the

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fact that I deleted your comment but as

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I've gone over and many instances this

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platform deletes my own comments on my

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own videos now it's one thing if I

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cursed or included a link I could just

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post something innocuous no insults no

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curse no link it gets deleted it's

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insane 12 years into this platform and

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communication is even worse now than it

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was in the beginning now again is this

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application perfect got a long way to go

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there but we're trying to fix the

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problems rather than simply complain

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about them another one and this was the

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moment I I'll be honest with you this is

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the moment where my brain kind of

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exploded and again just to preface this

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I have been a person that literally

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before he finished puberty was paying

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full price for his software this is $80

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in01 $80 in 2001 with inflation is

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probably 160 now but when you account

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for the fact like childhood inflation

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like I might I was making money by

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washing bicycles and reiling and

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greasing the chain for $1 you this might

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as well be $10,000 for for a 12-year-old

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so I have always paid for my content I

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paid for my software I pay for things

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that I find valuable whether using the

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add to cart button or a direct donation

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at the same time you cannot ignore the

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fact that over the past 20 years we have

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been doing this thing where the more you

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are willing to pay for Content the

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shittier your experience the more you're

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willing to pay for software the more

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you're opening yourself up to abuse it

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is similar to being in a relationship

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with somebody that is avoidant in

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attachment style or emotionally

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unavailable literally the more that you

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give of yourself the shittier you will

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be

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treated and when you look at it in this

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particular video I have a very strange

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example I'll admit very weird example on

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this video why I will never pay for

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YouTube premium again in this video

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titled why I will never pay for YouTube

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premium again I'm going over I know a

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very strange use case I like to stream

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my long-distance drives if I'm driving

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from New Hampshire to Texas or New

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Hampshire to Florida I kind of like to

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live stream the entire drive just so

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that people could watch and you know

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maybe listen what I have on the radio as

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I go and one of the things that happens

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if you're doing a YouTube live stream is

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that it's very very buggy if you want to

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listen to something so sometimes I may

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want to listen to an audio book or a

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podcast or something I downloaded

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because I'm on the road it's very buggy

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to use the same phone that I'm using for

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a live stream to also play audio content

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so what I would do is I would get an old

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phone that doesn't have a SIM card I

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would connect to Wi-Fi at home I'd log

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into my YouTube account I hit the

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download button and a few days later I

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would go into my car and want to listen

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to that and what happened here is it

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would say this downloaded content is not

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available you must connect to the

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Internet so I literally had to drive to

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a rest stop enable hotspot on my phone

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connect this phone to that one so that I

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could play content that I

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downloaded yes a strange use case but

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something went off in my head that day

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something exploded where I became sick

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and tired of accepting that the more

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that I give the less I receive whether

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we are talking about uh Netflix where I

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get lower resolution if I pay you full

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price for 4K than I do on pirating

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whether we are talking about Sony

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claiming that what you're doing is

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purchasing buying and then on the page

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21 of their end user license agreement

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saying you don't actually own it or

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whether we're talking about the

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inability to read a book because you

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have traveled from one section of the

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world to another we live in a world

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nowadays where the more you are willing

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to pay the more you are willing to give

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the less you will get back in return and

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whether it is in my personal life

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whether it is in purchasing content or

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software or my business life I have no

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tolerance anymore I'm done with this

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concept of the more that I give the

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shittier I

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get the section of this letter that says

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we should delete any sort of customer

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data that we have stored you are welcome

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to view the source code of the

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application to see that we do not store

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any of our customers data whether you

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have paid for the application or whether

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you are simply utilizing our um it's

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open source so you like you literally

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have the ability to have an infinite

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trial so to speak if you do not wish to

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pay for the application but we hope that

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people pay for the application if they

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find it valuable and at the end of the

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day we also hope that users donate to

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the content creators whose content they

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find valuable I'm curious what you all

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think the difference between this and

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new pipe or YouTube van or anything else

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is twofold a the primary problem we are

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looking to solve is that creators get

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kicked off of platforms willy-nilly when

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their livelihoods are at stake and B

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There's an actual budget here like I

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could hire Quint em manual for this if I

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wanted this is not four kids in a

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college dorm room and I don't think that

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Google or YouTube understand that

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spending half a million dollars as a

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retainer to Quinn Emanuel is actually an

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option here and I think that that would

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be a lot of fun as I said while ending

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my last video I have gotten four laws

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passed in three states over the past two

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years with $1 million you want to play a

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game we can play games but I guarantee

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you I'm the one that's going to be

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having fun we are not four kids in a

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college dorm room and if you think we

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are you are very very mistaken we are

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not taking down this application we have

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no intentions to take down this

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application and we intend to continue

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serving our customers with this open

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source application that's it for today

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and as always I hope you learn something

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and that's not only directed at my

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audience this time I'll see you in the

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next video bye now

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