WEBTOON THINGS I HATE

Kooleen
21 Oct 202308:01

Summary

TLDRThe video script is a candid critique of common tropes found in webtoons and Korean dramas, particularly those targeting a female audience. The speaker humorously addresses their pet peeves, such as the overuse of 'ugly' characters who are barely distinguishable from others, the prevalence of love triangles, and the unrealistic portrayal of characters, including the 'loser protagonist' and the 'perfect second lead.' The critique also touches on the uncomfortable depiction of 'loli' characters, the concerning themes in boy love (BL) comics, and the lazy use of miscommunication as a plot device. Despite these criticisms, the speaker maintains a lighthearted tone, acknowledging their continued enjoyment of the genre and the appeal of attractive characters. The summary concludes with a reminder that fiction is just that—fiction—and encourages viewers to separate fantasy from reality.

Takeaways

  • 🤔 The speaker expresses frustration with the overuse of certain character tropes in webtoons, such as the 'ugly' character who is only distinguished by minor features like glasses.
  • 🧐 The speaker challenges societal stereotypes, suggesting that glasses are not nerdy or unattractive, and can actually enhance a character's appeal.
  • 😒 There is a critique of the 'same face syndrome' where characters, despite being different, are visually indistinguishable from one another.
  • 😡 A dislike for love triangles in romance webtoons is expressed, with the speaker finding them cliché and unrealistic.
  • 🙄 The speaker mocks the common portrayal of male leads in webtoons as wealthy, troubled individuals with 'daddy issues', often suffering from PTSD.
  • 😌 A secondary male lead is often depicted as perfect and lovable but financially unstable, which the speaker finds to be an unrealistic and unfair portrayal.
  • 😕 The portrayal of the main character (MC) in some webtoons as overly young or 'loli' looking is criticized as uncomfortable and inappropriate.
  • 😓 Concern is expressed over the prevalence of violence and abusive relationships in BL (boy's love) comics that go viral, suggesting they may not be suitable or healthy for younger audiences.
  • 😠 The speaker is critical of 'loser' protagonists in webtoons, arguing that they are one-dimensional and lack depth or relatability.
  • 😒 Miscommunication is identified as a common and frustrating plot device that the speaker dislikes, as it often leads to unnecessary conflict and story prolongation.
  • 😖 The art style of a webtoon is deemed crucial by the speaker, stating that an unattractive art style can deter readers even if the story is engaging.
  • 🧐 The concept of a 'self-insert' protagonist is criticized for being unrealistic and for not allowing the character to develop independently from the author's own experiences.

Q & A

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the portrayal of characters labeled as 'ugly' in webtoons?

    -The speaker finds it odd when characters are labeled as 'ugly' but appear almost identical to other characters, differing only by minor features like glasses or pimples. They argue that such portrayals are unrealistic and do not reflect genuine diversity in character design.

  • Why does the speaker dislike the concept of 'same face syndrome' in webtoons?

    -The speaker dislikes 'same face syndrome' because it lacks creativity and variety in character design, making it difficult to distinguish between different characters, which can be confusing and unengaging for the audience.

  • What is the speaker's view on the common trope of the 'CEO or wealthy heir with mommy/daddy issues' in romance webtoons?

    -The speaker finds this trope to be overused and unrealistic, as it often portrays male leads with stereotypical cold and brooding personalities stemming from unresolved childhood traumas, which they feel is a red flag and an unhealthy representation of relationships.

  • Why does the speaker criticize the 'love triangle' trope in webtoons?

    -The speaker criticizes the 'love triangle' trope as it is predictable and cliché, often involving a perfect second male lead who is financially unstable, which the speaker finds to be an unrealistic and shallow basis for character relationships.

  • What issue does the speaker have with the portrayal of the female lead in certain webtoons?

    -The speaker takes issue with the portrayal of female leads who are designed to look and act much younger than they are, which they find uncomfortable and inappropriate, especially in the context of romantic relationships.

  • How does the speaker feel about the content of certain BL (boy love) comics?

    -The speaker is concerned about the content of some BL comics that go viral, as they often involve violence or torture, which they believe is not healthy and may appeal to a younger audience with certain emotional issues.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the 'loser protagonist' trope in webtoons?

    -The speaker finds the 'loser protagonist' trope to be uninspired and unrelatable because these characters often lack depth and their entire personality is centered around romantic choices rather than personal growth or interests.

  • Why does the speaker dislike the use of miscommunication as a plot device in webtoons?

    -The speaker dislikes miscommunication as a plot device because it is often used as a lazy writing technique that leads to unnecessary conflicts and can be resolved quickly with proper communication.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the importance of art style in webtoons?

    -The speaker believes that a good art style is crucial for a webtoon's success, as it can compensate for a weak storyline and attract readers who are interested in the visual appeal of the content.

  • How does the speaker feel about self-insert protagonists in fantasy novels and romance webtoons?

    -The speaker dislikes self-insert protagonists as they often feel unrealistic and lack flaws, making it difficult for readers to relate to them or find them interesting as characters.

  • What advice does the speaker give regarding the consumption of webtoons and the understanding of their content?

    -The speaker advises readers to be aware that webtoons are a form of fiction and not to take the unrealistic portrayals and tropes too seriously, reminding them that true love and relationships are more complex and nuanced than what is often depicted.

Outlines

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😀 Stereotypes in Webtoons: A Critique

The speaker humorously addresses common clichés in webtoons, particularly in romance genres. They criticize the overuse of 'ugly' characters who are barely distinguishable from others except for minor details like glasses or pimples. They also touch on the redundancy of character designs, where the main characters often look strikingly similar with only slight variations. The speaker expresses frustration with love triangles and the predictable nature of the male leads, who are often wealthy but emotionally distant due to past traumas. They also discuss the unrealistic portrayal of the 'perfect' second male lead and the problematic representation of female leads, especially when they are depicted as overly innocent or childlike, which creates discomfort in romantic contexts. Additionally, the critique extends to the BL (boy's love) genre, questioning the prevalence of violent or abusive themes in popular works and urging a more responsible approach to storytelling.

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😒 Common Pet Peeves in Webtoon Storytelling

The speaker continues to vent their frustrations with common storytelling issues in webtoons. They express a strong dislike for the 'misunderstanding' trope, which often leads to unnecessary plot complications and character conflicts. They argue that these issues could be resolved quickly through better communication. The critique also includes the unattractive art style, which can be a deal-breaker for readers. The speaker also dislikes the 'self-insert' protagonist, where the character lacks depth and appears to be a vehicle for the author's own fantasies. They acknowledge the appeal of these tropes to a certain audience but caution against confusing fiction with reality. The speaker concludes by reminding viewers not to take the critique too seriously, as it is meant to be light-hearted and humorous.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Furry

In the context of the video, 'furry' refers to a subculture interested in anthropomorphic animal characters with human-like personalities and characteristics. The speaker expresses a dislike for this particular theme, indicating it as one of the pet peeves in webtoons.

💡Ugly Characters

The term 'ugly characters' is used to describe characters in webtoons who are labeled as unattractive but often appear no different from other characters except for minor features like glasses. The video criticizes this trope as it can perpetuate stereotypes, such as the idea that glasses are associated with being nerdy or less attractive.

💡Same Face Syndrome

This concept refers to the common issue in webtoons where characters, despite being different, are drawn with very similar facial features, often only distinguished by their hair or accessories. The video points out this trope, suggesting it lacks creativity and can be confusing for readers.

💡Love Triangles

A 'love triangle' is a common narrative device in romance stories where one character is involved in a romantic interest with two other characters. The video expresses frustration with this cliché, arguing that it's predictable and often used as a plot device to create unnecessary drama.

💡Loli

The term 'loli' is short for 'lolita' and often refers to a character type in manga and anime that features young, innocent-looking girls. The video criticizes the portrayal of such characters, especially when paired with much older male characters, as it can create uncomfortable and inappropriate dynamics.

💡Boy Love (BL)

Boy Love, abbreviated as BL, refers to a genre of fictional media that focuses on romantic or sexual relationships between male characters. The video expresses concern over the portrayal of violence and problematic relationships in some BL comics, suggesting that they may not be suitable or healthy for certain audiences.

💡Losers as Protagonists

The video discusses the trope of having a 'loser' as the main character in order to make them relatable to the audience. However, it criticizes this when the character is one-dimensional and lacks depth or personal interests outside of the central love plot.

💡Miscommunication

The concept of 'miscommunication' is highlighted as a common and frustrating plot device in webtoons where misunderstandings between characters are used to prolong the narrative unnecessarily. The video argues that effective communication could resolve these issues quickly, and the trope is a sign of poor writing.

💡Art Style

The 'art style' refers to the visual presentation of the webtoon, including the design of characters and backgrounds. The video emphasizes the importance of a good art style, stating that it can make up for a weak storyline and is a significant factor in attracting readers.

💡Self-Insert Protagonist

A 'self-insert' protagonist is a character who may be seen as an author's alter ego or a wish-fulfillment fantasy. The video criticizes this trope as it can result in an unrealistic and unrelatable character who lacks flaws and struggles, which are essential for character development and audience engagement.

💡Fiction vs. Reality

The video touches on the distinction between fiction and reality, cautioning viewers to not conflate the two. It points out that while certain tropes and fantasies may be enjoyable in webtoons, they do not reflect real-life scenarios and should not be taken as such.

Highlights

The speaker expresses a dislike for the 'same face syndrome' in webtoons, where characters look too similar despite being labeled differently.

Glasses are considered unattractive in webtoons, but the speaker has a 'glasses kink' and finds them appealing.

The common portrayal of the 'prettiest girl' often lacks diversity, featuring stereotypical blond hair and blue eyes.

The speaker criticizes the overuse of love triangles in romance webtoons, which they find predictable and cliché.

In webtoons, male leads are often depicted with wealth and family issues, while the second male lead is perfect but financially unstable.

The speaker finds the portrayal of the 'loli' or young-looking main character (MC) uncomfortable, especially in romantic contexts.

The speaker expresses concern over the prevalence of violence in BL (boy love) comics that go viral, suggesting they appeal to a specific audience.

Despite disliking certain tropes, the speaker admits to still enjoying webtoons and acknowledges their appeal to a fantasy.

The speaker dislikes the 'loser protagonist' trope, feeling it lacks depth and relatability.

Miscommunication is identified as a pet peeve, with the speaker advocating for better writing to resolve plot issues.

The importance of a good art style is emphasized, as it can compensate for a weak storyline.

The speaker criticizes self-insert protagonists, where the author's own characteristics are overly projected onto the character.

The speaker humorously acknowledges their own enjoyment of certain tropes despite recognizing their flaws.

A reminder that fiction is separate from reality, and that the romantic fantasies presented in webtoons should not be taken as true representations of love.

The speaker encourages viewers not to take their criticisms too seriously, as they are just expressing personal pet peeves.

Transcripts

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web tune things I hate number one furry

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web Tunes next ugly characters it's so

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weird when a character is called ugly

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and then they literally just look the

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exact same as the other characters the

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only difference is that they have

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glasses or something or like pimples but

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they have no eyebrows and then when you

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take off the glasses and put on makeup

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people are like oh my gosh you look so

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good bro what is up with people thinking

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that glasses are nerdy and ugly I

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literally have a glasses Kink when

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someone wears glasses they immediately

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go up in the attractiveness scale okay

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I'm talking about you not at me also

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also usually the prettiest girl is like

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blond haired and blue eyes or something

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which is whatever bro but they look the

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exact same as the protagonist it's

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literally just the same person wearing a

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different wig it's just same face

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syndrome all over again and I know what

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y'all are going to say but coolen don't

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you have same face syndrome as well hell

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yeah I'm just yapping for Real come on

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guys let me be a hater but anyway it's

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not that hard to set two characters

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apart you could have really just added a

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few extra lashes and given them more

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attractive character juicer lips you

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know and thicker makeup love triangles

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bro I hate love triangles so much okay

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so usually in a romance web tune there

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is the male lead right and this guy is

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always blackhaired and he has this exact

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hairstyle and he's a CEO or he's a

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wealthy Heir plus Mommy and or daddy

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issues you cannot forget about that for

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some reason he's so cold and brooding

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he's a red flag and he's mentally ill

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like he almost always has PTSD and is

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suffering from some sort of childhood

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trauma either his mom died or his dad

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died or his dog died # I can fix him

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meanwhile the second male lead is

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perfect he's a cutie patootie he's not

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problematic at all he just makes you

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smile a lot and for some reason he loves

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you no matter what he's like Jesus or

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something but but he's broke that's

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right this guy is a walking green flag

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but he's poor so no thank you like can

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you imagine how that happens in real

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life imagine confessing to your crush

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and then they go like uh sorry I don't

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like you you're poor 4 second M lead's

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heart gets broken all the time it's so

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stupid it's literally so predictable

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clearly this guy is just a backup in

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case something ever goes wrong with a

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male lead she can just go running back

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to him you know or she can use him to

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make the male lead jealous now this is

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every woman's fantasy now I could be

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talking about every single web tune and

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K drama ever love triangles are cliche

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off but will I continue to eat it up

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hell yeah yes I will eat it up every

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single time next Lolly looking MC if you

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you don't know what loli is this is an

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example okay so for context I was

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reading this manuala a few years ago my

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memory is a bit hazy now but the M lead

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was like so big and so huge he was like

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7 ft tall okay now he was pretty hot not

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going to lie I would smash but meanwhile

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the female lead she's like 19 but she

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was like 411 absolute freaking

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bro so they looked very weird together

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like how would it fit like look at this

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panel guys guys that is a huge size

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difference bro and also why is his head

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so small compared to his body bro got

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the yahi build now I'm not hating on

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Short People okay maybe I am I know it's

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supposed to be intentional okay because

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ooh wow big guy small girl but that's

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not really the reason why I'm

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uncomfortable Not only was she tiny okay

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she also acted like a child like they

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portrayed her as this Ultra innocent

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girl so when they start doing um make

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out sessions it's weird and don't get me

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wrong I like this web tune I have

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absolutely loved the art style but you

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know you could make her look a little

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bit older you know don't make her look

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like she's 12 it's weird but anyway this

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isn't aimed at this particular web tune

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okay I'm talking about web tunes and

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even anime where girls look 12 please

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don't do that next BL Community listen I

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do not hate y'all I'm just really

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concerned because why is it that every

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time a BL comic goes viral it's always

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just some dude beating up another dude

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okay so for those who don't know BL

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stands for boy love now I strongly

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believe that this entire genre ra is

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just made for 14-year-old girls with a

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lot of daddy issues because all the

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viral BL Comics that I've heard of they

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all involve some sort of torture or

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something like that one web comic that

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trended a few years ago killing stalking

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I know it's not BL okay but a lot of BL

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fans read it basically it's a beauty and

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the beast type of story and like the

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bottom gets heavily violated and that is

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an extreme understatement I'm not even

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going to get into the details but anyway

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14-year-olds with daddy issues are

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romanticizing it as they always do so

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you know all I want to say is please

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seek help therapy is the answer but okay

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I'm not about to start beef with the

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whole Community I'm going to be the

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first to admit do I still find them hot

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heck yeah like if someone like nomy for

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example choked me with their biceps I

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wouldn't hate it instead I would go

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harder Daddy okay this is a joke

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violence is wrong next loser protagonist

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I know that the protagonist is supposed

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to be a broke loser so that you the

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viewer can relate to them but like

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they're not even trying the protagonist

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is literally just an empty shell okay

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their entire personality revolves around

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figuring out which boy to choose even

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though this second M lead is clearly

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better I'm talking about you chuk young

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she fumbled the entire bag for real like

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bro we know nothing about the

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protagonist what are your hobbies what

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are your interests who's your favorite

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Tik Tock thirst rapper we don't know all

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she ever thinks about is these two boys

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and also the female lead doesn't have to

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be all tough and strong and hates men

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that gets old and annoying really quick

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that's not the only person ality

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available you know why not make them

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girly it's okay to make girls girly next

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miscommunication I hate hate

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miscommunication this is the number one

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thing I hate if miscommunication has a

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million haters I'm one of them if it has

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one hater I'm that one hater if it has

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no haters I'm dead get out of here with

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your crappy writing is that the only way

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to progress the plot a misunderstanding

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takes place and suddenly the main couple

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avoids each other for like five chapters

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hell no if you've watched the movie

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called 20th century girl you know what

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the heck I'm talking about bro all it

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takes is 5 minutes 5 minutes man you

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only need 5 minutes of communication to

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solve the entire freaking problem it's

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just crappy writing okay I read web

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Tunes to be happy not to be depressed

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okay because my life is depressing

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enough as it is ugly artstyle nope sorry

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if the art style is bad I am 100% not

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reading it listen I can tolerate a

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crappy storyline as long as there's a

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handsome hot man to swon over what can I

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say I'm shallow F in a lot of popular

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mans today this story is so but is the

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art style that carries so if you want to

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make a web tune that will blow up make

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them hot I guarantee you all the hoes

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will be flocking in self-insert

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protagonist okay especially for fantasy

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novels I hate it when the protagonist is

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clearly just a self-insert like you can

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tell that the author is just projecting

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through them usually the protagonist is

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a loser but then suddenly they become op

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and they have no flaws and it's not just

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in fantasy novels too you can notice

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that in every romance web tune like bro

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why is is a protagonist supposedly ugly

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and then there are like four guys head

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over heels for her Rising her up that

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doesn't make any sense right so anyway

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as always don't take this too seriously

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I'm just being a hater for real it's

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called pet peeves for a reason bro it's

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not that deep I grew up reading web

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tunes and then kramas and I know that

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these tropes are heavily overused

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because they sell because they're

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popular if people didn't pay attention

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to them as much then webtune authors

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wouldn't use them at all like heck yeah

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I want a billionaire to be obsessed with

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me then there's this backup guy who will

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accept me with open arms it's obviously

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just trying to appeal to the female

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fantasy in the end we need to be aware

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that fiction is fiction guys true love

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does not exist hope you guys like this

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video watch this next and I'll see you

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there stay

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[Music]

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