Are we all just Selfish? (Bernard de Mandeville) - Philosophy Tube

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25 Oct 201307:22

Summary

TLDRThis episode delves into the philosophical debate surrounding morality, focusing on Bernard de Mandeville's assertion that all human actions, even altruistic ones, are ultimately selfishly motivated. The host examines Mandeville's claim that societal constructs of morality manipulate individuals into feeling pride for good deeds and shame for bad ones. Counterarguments from philosopher Francis Hutcheson emphasize the importance of intention in moral actions, while audience responses explore the evolutionary origins of morality. The discussion invites viewers to consider the complexities of moral behavior and whether true altruism exists.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ˜€ Mandeville's 'The Fable of the Bees' suggests all human actions are motivated by self-interest.
  • ๐Ÿ˜• Morality is portrayed as an artificial construct imposed by society to control behavior.
  • ๐Ÿง Altruistic actions, like sacrificing oneself, can still be seen as selfish if they avoid feelings of guilt or shame.
  • ๐Ÿค Hutcheson challenges Mandeville by emphasizing the importance of intentions in moral actions.
  • โ“ Mandeville's theory lacks a falsifying criterion, meaning it can't be proven wrong, rendering it overly simplistic.
  • ๐Ÿ” The discussion raises questions about the empirical validity of Mandeville's claims regarding human nature.
  • ๐ŸŒ Viewer comments explore the evolutionary basis of morality, suggesting it promotes group survival.
  • โณ The stability of morality is debated, contrasting divine commands with an evolutionary perspective.
  • ๐Ÿค” Personal intuition is highlighted as a factor in determining moral decisions, regardless of societal teachings.
  • ๐Ÿ“บ The episode encourages viewer engagement and invites thoughts on the complexities of morality and human behavior.

Q & A

  • What is the central thesis of Bernard de Mandeville in 'The Fable of the Bees'?

    -Mandeville argues that all human actions, including moral actions, are motivated by selfish reasons, and that morality is a construct invented by society to control behavior.

  • How does Mandeville explain the feelings of pride and shame associated with moral actions?

    -He suggests that individuals perform good actions to gain the warm feeling of pride and to avoid the shame associated with doing bad things, which society has indoctrinated them to feel.

  • What counterexample does the script provide against Mandeville's theory?

    -The example of someone sacrificing themselves to save another person challenges Mandeville's view, as this act does not provide personal benefit, suggesting a capacity for genuine altruism.

  • What is Francis Hutcheson's critique of Mandeville's ideas?

    -Hutcheson believes Mandeville fails to adequately address intentions; he argues that people consider the goodwill behind actions, not just the outcomes that benefit them.

  • What is a 'falsifying criterion' and how does it relate to Mandeville's theory?

    -A falsifying criterion is a principle that allows a theory to be disproven by evidence. The script argues that Mandeville's theory lacks this criterion, meaning it cannot be empirically validated or invalidated.

  • How does the script address the evolutionary perspective on morality?

    -The script mentions that some evolutionary scientists believe morality may have evolved to promote group survival, as societies that enforce moral behavior tend to thrive.

  • What concerns are raised about morality derived from divine command?

    -The script discusses how if morality comes from God, it could change with divine will, raising questions about the stability and consistency of moral standards based on this belief.

  • What point does HerodotVonHalikarnas make regarding God's moral commands?

    -He suggests that even if moral commands are divine, individuals still need a sense of morality to judge whether following those commands is right, indicating an inherent moral sense.

  • What philosophical implications does the episode suggest regarding moral relativity?

    -The episode raises the idea that if morality can change based on divine or evolutionary perspectives, it may lead to moral relativity, where different contexts yield different moral standards.

  • What invitation does the episode extend to its viewers?

    -Viewers are encouraged to share their thoughts on the nature of morality and to engage in discussions about related topics such as the role of names and democracy as human rights.

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