Why we AVOIDED the Fisker Karma and Tesla S, and bought a used Maserati instead

Summary

El video proporciona una reflexión personal sobre la decisión de no adquirir un Fisker Karma o un Tesla Model S a pesar de su fascinación por ambos vehículos. El narrador destaca la belleza y el diseño innovador del Fisker Karma, que funciona como un locomotora diesel, y el rendimiento y la conveniencia del Tesla. Sin embargo, menciona las limitaciones de estos vehículos en términos de servicio y soporte, especialmente para el Fisker Karma, debido a las complicaciones con los proveedores de mantenimiento y la falta de una red de servicio extendida. Finalmente, el narrador comparte su elección de comprar un Maserati Gran Turismo 2008, valorando su estilo, el disfrute del manejo y la experiencia de conducción, a pesar de no ser tan eficiente o avanzado tecnológicamente como los vehículos eléctricos. Además, ofrece un llamado a la comunidad de vehículos eléctricos para mejorar en relaciones con los clientes y a los fabricantes para no caer en la monotonía de los algoritmos, valorando la individualidad y la experiencia humana por encima de la eficiencia pura.

Takeaways

• 🚗 El Fisker Karma es un híbrido con un motor de combustión interna que funciona como generador para las baterías, similar a un locomotora diesel.
• 🚘 La Tesla Model S es un automóvil completamente eléctrico con una autonomía y rendimiento superiores, pero requiere planificación para viajes largos debido a la disponibilidad de estaciones de carga rápida.
• 🔋 Una de las ventajas del Fisker Karma es la capacidad de recargar la batería en cualquier gasolinera, ofreciendo flexibilidad para viajes a larga distancia.
• 🛠️ El servicio y la relación con los centros de reparación para el Fisker Karma son críticos, pero la experiencia del narrador con los centros de servicio fue negativa, lo que influyó en su decisión de no comprar el vehículo.
• 💸 El Fisker Karma y la Tesla Model S son vehículos caros que requieren una inversión significativa, pero ofrecen tecnología y características únicas.
• 💡 La decisión final de no comprar un Fisker Karma o una Tesla se debió a factores de servicio, soporte y la búsqueda de un automóvil que reflejara la personalidad y el estilo de la pareja.
• 🇮🇹 En lugar de un Fisker Karma o una Tesla, la pareja optó por un Maserati Gran Turismo, un automóvil de diseño italiano que ofrece un buen rendimiento y un toque de exclusividad.
• 🤔 El narrador reflexiona sobre la individualidad y la expresión artística en la elección de un automóvil, y cómo los algoritmos y la tecnología están influyendo en la experiencia de conducción.
• 🚧 Hay preocupaciones sobre la dependencia de la tecnología en los vehículos autónomos y cómo esto podría llevar a una vida más predecible y menos emocionante.
• 🌿 A pesar de la atracción inicial hacia los vehículos eléctricos y hibridos por sus beneficios ambientales, la pareja valora la experiencia de conducción y la conexión con el automóvil.
• 📞 La falta de comunicación y el servicio al cliente por parte de los centros de servicio para los vehículos eléctricos y hibridos influyeron en la decisión final de compra.
• 🏎️ El narrador apoya la idea de que el automóvil no solo es un medio de transporte, sino también una expresión de identidad y pasión por la conducción.

Q & A

¿Por qué no compraron un Fisker Karma o un Tesla?

El narrador y su esposa no compraron un Fisker Karma o un Tesla porque, a pesar de apreciar las características y el diseño de estos vehículos, se dieron cuenta de que no les proporcionaban la emoción y el estilo único que buscaban. Además, tuvieron problemas para encontrar un lugar confiable para su mantenimiento y servicio.

¿Cómo funciona el Fisker Karma en términos de su motorización?

El Fisker Karma tiene un motor de combustión interna en la parte delantera, que no está conectado mecánicamente con las ruedas. Este motor actúa como un generador de gasolina para producir electricidad que carga las baterías, y son los motores eléctricos los que mueven el vehículo.

¿Por qué el Fisker Karma fue comparado con un locomotora diesel?

El Fisker Karma fue comparado con una locomotora diesel porque, al igual que esta, utiliza un motor de combustión interna para generar electricidad que luego se utiliza para accionar motores eléctricos que mueven el vehículo.

¿Cuál fue el principal problema con el servicio post-venta del Fisker Karma?

El principal problema fue la falta de comunicación y el desinterés de los posibles centros de servicio. El narrador intentó contactar con los centros de servicio en Pensilvania e Indianapolis, pero no recibió respuesta alguna, lo que los desanimó de comprar el vehículo.

¿Qué les llevó a elegir un Maserati Gran Turismo en lugar de un Fisker Karma o un Tesla?

El narrador y su esposa decidieron por un Maserati Gran Turismo porque encontraron una oferta muy buena y el vehículo ofrecía un equilibrio entre el estilo, la emoción de conducir y la facilidad de mantenimiento, sin la necesidad de una infraestructura de carga extensa como la que requieren los vehículos eléctricos.

¿Qué aspectos positivos menciona el narrador sobre el Tesla Model S?

El narrador destaca la autonomía del Tesla Model S, su alcance suficiente para la mayoría de las necesidades de conducción diarias, la comodidad de su interior, la tecnología avanzada, y su rendimiento en tráfico.

¿Por qué consideró el narrador que el Tesla Model S no era emocionante?

El narrador percibió que el Tesla Model S era una gran máquina, pero no proporcionaba la sensación de individualidad o la emoción que buscan en un automóvil. Se sentía más como un producto de utilidad sin la conexión emocional que buscan con sus vehículos.

¿Qué tipo de motorización tiene el Maserati Gran Turismo que el narrador menciona?

El Maserati Gran Turismo que menciona el narrador tiene un motor V8 de accionamiento Ferrari, lo que sugiere un rendimiento deportivo y una experiencia de conducción emocionante.

¿Qué sugerencias da el narrador para los entusiastas de Fisker Karma y los centros de servicio?

El narrador sugiere que los entusiastas de Fisker Karma deberían asegurarse de tener una relación sólida con un centro de servicio confiable. Para los centros de servicio, les sugiere que deberían mejorar su atención al cliente, respondiendo a llamadas y correos electrónicos para mantener su negocio en el futuro.

¿Qué reflexión hace el narrador sobre la autonomía en los vehículos y las algortimos?

El narrador expresa su preocupación sobre el futuro donde los vehículos autónomos controlados por algoritmos de internet podrían llevar a la humanidad hacia un punto medio sin emoción ni individualidad. Él valora la artesanía, la vida y las diferencias únicas que hacen interesante la vida.

¿Por qué el narrador decide promover a Top Cart USA y KW Suspension en su narración?

El narrador decide promover a Top Cart USA y KW Suspension porque él mismo utiliza estos productos para mejorar el rendimiento de sus vehículos en carreras. Top Cart USA ofrece chasis de alta calidad y KW Suspension es reconocida por sus componentes de suspensión avanzados, lo que sugiere que son de confianza y eficaces en el mundo de la competición automotriz.

Outlines

00:00

🚗 Análisis del Fisker Karma y Tesla Model S

El video comienza con una discusión sobre la experiencia de considerar la compra de un Fisker Karma y un Tesla Model S. El narrador y su esposa aprecian los aspectos estéticos y emocionales de los autos, y discuten las razones por las que finalmente no compraron ninguno de los dos modelos. El Fisker Karma es comparado con un tren diesel, ya que su motor de combustión interna actúa como un generador de electricidad para las baterías, mientras que el Tesla es un automóvil completamente eléctrico. A pesar de la fascinación por la tecnología y el diseño de estos vehículos, se mencionan problemas de servicio y soporte que llevaron a la decisión de no adquirir ninguno.

05:03

🌟 Ventajas y desventajas del Fisker Karma y Tesla

Este párrafo profundiza en las características únicas del Fisker Karma y el Tesla Model S. El Fisker Karma es elogiado por su capacidad de funcionamiento en modo eléctrico y su flexibilidad para recargar en cualquier estación de servicio de gasolina. Sin embargo, se destaca su eficiencia limitada y la preocupación por la calidad y los problemas potenciales debido a ser un modelo de producción limitada. Por otro lado, el Tesla Model S es reconocido por su alcance y comodidad, pero se menciona que requiere planificación para viajes largos debido a la necesidad de estaciones de recarga. Además, se discute la falta de individualidad y emoción en la experiencia de conducir un Tesla, en comparación con la singularidad del Fisker Karma.

10:07

🛠 Desafíos de servicio y soporte para el Fisker Karma

El narrador detalla las dificultades encontradas al buscar servicio y soporte para el Fisker Karma. A pesar de su interés en el vehículo, las complicaciones con los proveedores de servicio y la falta de una red de soporte confiable les desanimaron. Se menciona una mala comunicación con los dealerships y talleres especializados, así como la preocupación por la disponibilidad de repuestos y la capacidad de mantener el vehículo a largo plazo. Estos desafíos fueron cruciales en la decisión final de no comprar el Fisker Karma.

15:08

🏎️ Elegir un vehículo: entre emoción y practicidad

El narrador concluye su análisis comparando las emociones y la practicidad al elegir un vehículo. A pesar de la atracción inicial por el Fisker Karma y el Tesla Model S, optaron por un Maserati Gran Turismo 2008, que ofrecía una combinación de diseño, rendimiento y mantenimiento más alineados con sus preferencias personales. La decisión se basa en la importancia de tener un soporte de servicio sólido y la necesidad de una experiencia de conducción única y emocionante, que no se encontró en los modelos eléctricos considerados.

20:08

🤖 Reflexiones sobre la automatización y la individualidad

El video termina con una reflexión sobre la automatización en los vehículos y su impacto en la individualidad del conductor. El narrador expresa su preocupación sobre la creciente dependencia de los algoritmos y la posibilidad de que la personalidad y las elecciones únicas queden homogeneizadas. Aunque reconoce los avances tecnológicos y la conveniencia de los vehículos autónomos, defiende la importancia de la libertad de elección y la búsqueda de lo extraordinario y emocionante en la vida y en la experiencia de conducir.

25:09

🏁 Promoción de componentes de suspensión y chasis para carreras

El narrador finaliza el video promocionando componentes de alta calidad para carreras, como los chasis de Top Cart y los amortiguadores KW Suspension. Enfatiza la importancia de contar con un chasis de alta calidad para la competencia en carreras y comparte su experiencia personal usando productos de estas marcas. Alabando la precisión y el rendimiento de estos componentes, el narrador incentiva a los entusiastas de las carreras a considerar estos productos para mejorar su rendimiento en la pista.

Keywords

💡Fisker Karma

El Fisker Karma es un automóvil híbrido extendido que utiliza un motor de combustión interna como generador eléctrico para recargar las baterías, lo que permite que el vehículo funcione principalmente con energía eléctrica, pero también tenga la capacidad de acceder a estaciones de servicio de combustible para recargar. En el video, se menciona que el Fisker Karma es un concepto interesante y único en el mundo de los automóviles, aunque con desafíos en términos de eficiencia y soporte de servicio.

💡Tesla Model S

El Tesla Model S es un automóvil totalmente eléctrico conocido por su rango prolongado, su desempeño y su tecnología avanzada, incluyendo la capacidad de conducción autónoma. En el video, se discute cómo el Tesla Model S es un automóvil impresionante en términos de utilidad y características, pero se siente que falta un poco de emoción y individualidad en comparación con otros vehículos.

💡Maserati Gran Turismo

La Maserati Gran Turismo es un automóvil de lujo y deportivo que la esposa del narrador del video decide comprar en lugar de un Fisker Karma o un Tesla Model S. Se destaca por su diseño exclusivo, su motor V8 y su transmisión automática. En el video, se menciona que, a pesar de ser un automóvil menos eficiente y posiblemente menos confiable, ofrece un sentido de individualidad y emoción que los vehículos eléctricos no logran.

💡Híbrido extendido

Un híbrido extendido es un tipo de vehículo híbrido que utiliza un motor de combustión interna para generar electricidad en lugar de propulsar directamente las ruedas. Este concepto permite que el vehículo funcione principalmente con energía eléctrica, pero tenga la capacidad de recargar sus baterías a través de combustible. En el video, se discute cómo el Fisker Karma es un ejemplo de un híbrido extendido y cómo este concepto es interesante, pero no muy eficiente.

💡Autonomía

La autonomía en un automóvil eléctrico se refiere a la distancia que puede recorrer sin necesidad de recargar. En el video, se compara la autonomía del Fisker Karma, que es limitada en su modo completamente eléctrico, con la del Tesla Model S, que tiene una autonomia significativamente mayor. La autonomía es un factor clave para la practicidad de los vehículos eléctricos para viajes largos.

💡Conducto autónomo

El conducto autónomo, o 'autopiloto', es una característica en algunos vehículos, incluidos los Tesla, que permite que el vehículo se dirija por sí solo. En el video, se menciona cómo esta característica es impresionante pero también puede llevar a una sensación de aburrimiento o falta de control por parte del conductor.

💡Soporte de servicio

El soporte de servicio se refiere a la disponibilidad y calidad de las soluciones de mantenimiento y reparación para un vehículo. En el video, se destaca la falta de soporte de servicio para el Fisker Karma como un factor que disuade al narrador de comprar el vehículo, debido a la difícil comunicación y atención de los servicios especializados en dicho modelo.

💡Individualidad

La individualidad es la cualidad de ser diferente o único. En el video, el narrador busca un vehículo que ofrezca no solo una experiencia de conducción emocionante sino también una declaración de identidad y personalidad. Se considera que los vehículos tradicionales como la Maserati ofrecen una sensación de individualidad que los vehículos más convencionales o controlados por computadora, como los Tesla, no logran proporcionar.

💡Eficiencia energética

La eficiencia energética hace referencia a la cantidad de energía utilizada en relación con el trabajo realizado o la distancia recorrida. En el video, se discute cómo el Fisker Karma, a pesar de ser un híbrido, no es particularmente eficiente en términos de millas por galón cuando se utiliza el motor de combustión interna para generar electricidad.

💡Algoritmos

Los algoritmos son procedimientos sistemáticos de resolución de problemas o de realización de tareas que a menudo son utilizados en computadoras. En el video, se menciona la preocupación del narrador de que la dependencia de los algoritmos, como los utilizados en los sistemas de conducción autónoma de los Tesla, pueda llevar a una vida más predecible y menos emocionante, alejándose de la individualidad y las experiencias únicas.

💡Topcart USA y KW Suspension

Topcart USA y KW Suspension son marcas mencionadas en el video que se relacionan con la competición de autos. Topcart USA ofrece chasis y guías de ajuste y tuning para carreras, mientras que KW Suspension es una compañía fundada en Alemania que produce componentes de suspensión de alta calidad para varios fabricantes de equipo original. Estos productos son relevantes para el video ya que el narrador tiene una pasión por las carreras de autos y destaca la importancia de la suspensión y el chasis de calidad en el rendimiento de un automóvil de competición.

Highlights

The Fisker Karma operates like a diesel locomotive, with an internal combustion engine acting as a generator to charge the batteries that power the electric motors.

The author and his wife were initially interested in the Fisker Karma and Tesla Model S due to their unique designs and environmentally friendly aspects.

The Fisker Karma's range extender allows for flexibility in long trips without the need for pre-planning charging stations.

Tesla's Model S offers a smooth, quiet, and sporty driving experience with excellent performance and utility.

The Tesla Model S has a significant range and performance but requires planning for long trips due to the availability of charging stations.

The author appreciated Tesla's customer service, including pick-up and repair services, despite the limited availability of service centers.

The Fisker Karma's unique design and ability to run on both electricity and gasoline were appealing, but concerns over service and support led to hesitation.

Negative experiences with potential service providers for the Fisker Karma, including poor communication, were a significant factor in not choosing the car.

The author and his wife value individuality and style in a car, which influenced their decision against the Tesla and Fisker Karma.

The Tesla Model S was considered boring and too algorithm-driven, lacking the unique flair the author and his wife were seeking.

The author expresses concerns about the future of self-driving cars and the potential loss of individuality and control.

Ultimately, the author's wife chose a 2008 Maserati Gran Turismo for its style, performance, and the availability of reliable service.

The author emphasizes the importance of a positive relationship with service providers when considering a vehicle purchase.

The Fisker Karma's unique features, such as its recyclable cloth interior and stealth mode, were points of interest.

The author discusses the potential downsides of relying on algorithms for all aspects of life, including driving experiences.

The decision to not purchase a Fisker Karma or Tesla was influenced by a desire for a vehicle with more character and less reliance on computer control.

The author suggests that electric vehicle communities and companies should improve customer service and support to succeed.

The author concludes by recommending Top Cart USA and KW Suspension for racing car setup and tuning, praising their high-quality products.

Transcripts

the fisker karma works like a diesel

locomotive does

horrible relationships with the places

that can actually service them welcome

to the fellowship

and i'm like easy dude i'm not trying to

join a cult i'm just thinking about

buying a fisker

by the way pterosaur yes so that's why

we didn't buy a fisker karma or a tesla

maybe someday in the future but for

right now maserati

what's up people so today i wanted to

talk about the

fisker karma as well as the tesla model

s and specifically why

we meaning my wife and i didn't buy one

because we actually

really wanted one so i want to tell you

about that experience the whole way

through and what led us to the train of

thought and actually the utilitarian

reason

why she ended up choosing a 2008

maserati

gran turismo instead obviously a very

different kind of car

now to start this conversation off my

wife is actually something of a car

enthusiast

albeit a bit different than me i like

really fast cars and

race cars and projects and flying

pterosaurs on the ceiling oh by the way

i do crazy things on this channel and

you should totally subscribe

really cool builds and all but anyway

that's what i love i love the edge i

love the history so i'm okay with things

a little more masochistic and a little

less utilitarian

but my wife and i both appreciate style

and design

and the intellectual like soulful aspect

of a car

that tickles our fancy you know what i

mean so for me i might love a v12

engine with a stick shift because it

gives me uh mine feelings of

le monson straight at the race le mans

or something like that

you know things that are evocative and

exciting but my wife didn't grow up with

the racing aspect so there are other

things that are interesting her

conceptually

so for instance the fisker karma very

beautiful car very excited

exciting interesting evocative pretty

colors

um tesla very handsome car uh and they

are both different

than just being a straight internal

combustion car

now the fisker carmen a lot of people

don't realize this they call it a hybrid

but it is different than the normal kind

of hybrid so the fisker karma has an

internal combustion engine in the front

i believe it's a turbo four-cylinder

general motors base

and it has electric motors that drive

the wheels and battery packs so it's

in fact hybrid because it has both

internal combustion and electric

but it's different because the internal

combustion engine

in no way is mechanically linked to the

wheels to drive the car

the internal combustion engine of a

fisker karma is only

a gas-powered generator to generate

electricity

which charges the batteries and what

drives the car moves it forward are in

fact the electric

the electric motor that's it so that's

interesting because that in a sense the

fisker karma works

like a diesel locomotive does so diesel

locomotive has a diesel engine internal

combustion

which drives a generator to generate

electricity and it's the electric

tractive motors that move those

locomotives forward

so it's an interesting concept and

unique in the car world

and then of course tesla being fully

electric it's got battery packs it's got

motors

and it goes and when i first thought of

the fisker karma tim mentioned to my

wife and she's like oh that's

interesting

uh we were looking at things like bmw

z3s and z4s you know sporty little cute

two-door convertibles that were

an attractive price point and a used car

market right now for her

we were looking at things a little more

normal you know kind of sedans some

trigger bushing

maybe it's bmw etc and things that may

be a little more chic but could be

utilitarian like a porsche panamera used

one

four-door could be a good car uh and the

maserati gran turismo was kind of the

you know saucy exotic two-door car with

a ferrari

drive v8 and since my wife wasn't into

like super racy cars

didn't necessarily think she should go

that way

but the first car we looked at was in

fact the fisker karma

and i gotta be honest we drove it i

thought it was amazing

it was interesting it was evocative it

was one of the most exotic cars i had

ever been in

and it felt very exotic because one has

huge wheels

interesting proportions and that it just

it just was captivated it was

interesting to look at as an art form

itself so

uh my wife and i both enjoyed that of

course the interior was beautifully

appointed the leather

uh some of them have cloth that's

recyclable cloth and they have

everything things like fossils and

things to reflect of being

more environmentally conscious and of

course a very interesting design that

felt exotic

and fashionable but futuristic and

spaceship-like so it's neat it's

interesting

and of course the fisker karma uh when

it's in what's called stealth mode which

is fully electric

when it's quiet and i believe speeds

under 25 miles an hour maybe 30 miles an

hour

it puts out that sound it actually

generates like a weird spaceship noise

to project to the community not like so

loud it'll annoy the neighbors but

enough to weird them out because it's

like wow

sounds like a creepy spaceship which is

cool and my wife was really into that

and

honestly so was i um so it was exciting

and obviously being electric the way it

moves the wheels forward it's it's very

smooth it moves out well it's

it's quick enough to feel good and

sporty and do everything you need to

but the thing that's probably the most

interesting about the fiscal karma other

than it's a very beautiful

and interesting car is because it has an

internal combustion engine

that you can start up or shut down and

just run it full electric like in

stealth mode or normal mode or sport or

whatever

that car has a shorter range on full

electric i think it might only be like

35 or 40 miles something rather small

but truthfully the fisker karma does and

did what a tesla can't

and while a tesla has a tremendously

better range

and performance and utility let's be

honest

the one thing a tesla can't easily do is

just drive across the country

and not have to pre-plan a trip because

there's only so many supercharging

stations and such and yes i know that

tesla's have really amazing interfaces

that tell you where those are and help

you plan the trip

but also takes a while to charge so you

have to plan

long trips but in a fiskar karma you can

go to any gas station

fill it up with gas and you're right

back on the road it's generating

electricity and moving you forward

so that's an interesting concept i say

it's an interesting concept because in

practice

it's not actually that efficient when

you figure out the miles per gallon it's

like in the 20s

which is nothing really to write home

about i've driven corvettes to get much

better gas mileage

fuel mileage than a fisker karma in fact

does

but concepts are important for social

media movements

and times and also the nature of the

visceral karma even though it's not

highly efficient

when it's running gasoline and

generating electricity to drive it

it works well in utility because in our

hometown

my wife could plug it in at home drive

it basically almost

everywhere she needs to go just fully

electric i would say

80 90 percent of her trips can be just

electric and never turn on the gas

engine

except a couple of times just to keep it

maintained and happy but it allows you

the flexibility to go as far as you want

any time you want so

there is a lot of utility value to the

fisker karma

over a tesla if you like the concept and

you really really appreciate the art and

you want to be that unique individualist

and have that style but still be

conscious of a direction that's more

environmentally sound so you can still

be an automotive enthusiast and love the

art the performance and all

but it works slightly better in the real

world as a concept now i know all you

want to argue so i'm going to go on to

the tesla and say what's positive and

then we're going to come back as to why

we didn't buy a fisker karma

or a tesla and instead bought a maserati

the internal combustion engine loud

annoying

scourge of the electric and hybrid

community

so the tesla okay model s now i had

had driven the roadsters back in the day

which were effectively

electrified and re-bodied lotus elise's

that's what they were

uh and they were neat car i thought they

were really cool uh but i was kind of a

snob curmudgeon

when i saw them because i'm like how's

this helping the environment the only

guys i know

that have these bought them to park

alongside their freaking lamborghini

avenators as a novelty

which is true so it was a novelty but

you know in

in the span of human existence shall we

say with

neat new or techno technology and stuff

that push boundaries

forward to the future and hopefully a

good way often times those technologies

and things are only available to the

wealthy to start with but that's not a

reason to knock them

so tesla obviously has built a lot of

cars since then and the tesla model s

and all of its variants

is a neat car and really worth

considering because

even if she has to commute a long

distance let's say an hour every day

the range of a tesla model s is fully

sufficient to do that

so truthfully a tesla model s even a

nice used one is what we were looking at

would be sufficient for i don't know 95

or more

of our driving without ever actually

having to go to a charging station

beyond just our house but those big long

cross country drives like if genius

garage is going racing in wisconsin or

florida or something

wouldn't work out as well for the tesla

because she would have to plan the trip

it would take longer and then if you're

at a racetrack and there's no charging

stations you've got to get around it

kind of becomes a pain in the butt

um so that that was kind of a downside

and you

need to figure something out for that or

if we want to go on a cross-country trip

to

visit family we would have to plan ahead

but that's kind of the fun and the

adventure of having a tesla

and obviously their computer system is

amazing now

the positive thing about the tesla

before we go into the negatives of that

and how we ended up with the maserati

the tesla my wife said something to the

effect of

she doesn't want to like it as much as

she did

and that's interesting and that goes

into a huge cultural aspect of it too

because the tesla model s was

amazing at being a car

but it wasn't amazing at letting you

feel like an individual

and that was the problem and she loved

it and frankly i loved it too when we

first test drove it i'm like this is the

car this thing's great

you know you've got the self-driving

aspect you've got incredible

uh touchscreen navigation supercharging

everything is convenient the performance

was

awesome in traffic it was planted that

you know when it's doing the

regenerative brake things you barely

even have to use the

normal brakes um the brake pedal that is

and uh there's no transmission tunnel

hump or place for the exhaust so if

you're in the back seat you can put your

feet wherever you want

and there's so many great things about

it since you don't have the center

console i know this sounds silly but for

all you

ladies watching you get in your car and

you want someone to put your purse

and in normal cars there's nowhere to

put your purse except in the passenger

seat but at tesla you put it right there

or for guys if you've got a briefcase or

a book bag whatever same thing so in

utility it works awesome

a great trunk space and it was a

relatively good looking car really can't

knock it

and i also like some other aspects about

tesla the

connection like they'll come pick it up

and fix it and whatnot the downside of

course is you're not getting that thing

fixed everywhere

but there's enough support and all

that'll probably be pretty good so let's

say why we didn't buy the tesla to start

with

it was boring

it was really great at being a car but

in no way made you feel

special or good about yourself or fun

now i realize a zillion of you have a

heck of a lot of fun or tesla and you

love it you sit back and watch a singer

go by and you do that

but being an individual and the feeling

of individuality

and expression is important and we

couldn't

figure out a way to do that and it

bumped my wife because

it was amazing car but it didn't wasn't

exciting

so i said to her okay we like the tesla

maybe someday we'll get one

and maybe that if you have another car

to have fun but let's not do that right

now while you don't have kids and stuff

let's

have some fun so we ruled the tesla out

it just for us it wasn't fun it was a

tesla was no different than a cell phone

the difference is you get it and drive

it around and a cell phone's not fun

i don't i don't get excited about these

they just drive me nuts it's just

utility

so that's why we didn't get it the

fisker karma she

really wanted one loved the concept it

was unique it was really cool

it was something to talk it was just it

tripped all the boxes

as well as going in good direction like

if tesla was good enough to

adopt some fisker-like qualities of the

design and whatnot it'd be a lot more

interesting

you'd feel more like an individual and

interesting concepts and obviously the

fisker being

the range extended i think they call it

with the internal combustion engine

generating was

helpful although not the direction

tesla's going

here was the big problem i knew that

both of those cars

uh with their technology and such were

at a point where i can only service so

much of it

unlike more conventional cars as you

guys can probably imagine from this

garage

that i could fix for things of my own

and since it's my wife's car

i wanted to make sure that i can look

after it well for her considering these

are all used

and fisker is not in business in the way

that it was back in 2012 the one year

they built those cars

now karma is the company that exists now

and has the

rivero i hope i said that right which i

think started in 2016

uh and is still being produced i believe

and there are in fact

karma dealers now the fisker karma from

2012 which we were looking at can be

bought well with low miles and if you

find one

uh well it can be had there's also other

places that service them

now with a car that's only produced one

year it's going to have a few quality

control issues

and teething problems which could relate

to the metallurgy

in a certain drive shaft from a certain

vin number range

or a cooling fan that could overheat and

in general i think that vast

the populace needs to understand that a

car company that comes out of nowhere

doesn't matter what it is

and only produce cars for a couple years

or are producing their very first car

it's not reasonable to expect the car

will have no problems

that comes from time going by and in no

way is that a detriment to the design

or the company really and if i'm not

mistaken the thing that actually really

killed or drove the

nails in the coffin of fisker originally

were battery recalls

so the batteries and that company ended

up being faulty or an issue or something

of that

but because of all those recalls it

really just crushed the company

but here's why we didn't buy one point

blank

horrible relationships with the places

that can actually service them

the truth about a fisker karma is it's

got a normal car battery in it

to run some systems and start it up and

and get things going and lights and

whatever

and the solar roof on the top of the car

i believe is supposed to

charge the normal car battery to look

after things like that

and the problem is if it's parked inside

for a long period of time

um and it's not used daily and that

thing's not being charged

and it goes dead and you replace it at

home you can do that it's not that hard

but if i'm not mistaken the car becomes

a paperweight and inoperable

until a dealership plugs into it and

tells the computer

hey it's cool or something of that

nature so i heard it becomes a

paperweight in that circumstance

so with that alone i realized that a

fisker karma i would have to plan on

either

paying to have it trucked every so often

to be serviced

out of state whether it's the karma

dealer in indy

or the private shop that does all the

fiskars somewhere in pennsylvania

and that could be okay if you really

like the car and you really vibe with it

but you really want to buy the right one

and do your due diligence to see if it

has records and recalls and things like

that done and where in the vin range it

is

and that's what we were doing and before

we even bought it i

called the private service place for

fisker karmas and other evs in

pennsylvania as well as the karma

dealership

in indianapolis now but both of them

spoke to me although the place in

pennsylvania like you could tell he just

didn't want to talk to anybody

and i was very kind and and direct with

where i was at and saying

hey long time car guy collector builder

thinking about buying a fisker caramel

really like it just doing a little due

diligence

starting a relationship since obviously

we have to have service done by a place

that can interface with these cars

properly

uh and he's like yeah and it's being

nice i said

uh i'm wondering are there particular

things i should especially look out for

when buying and i wasn't asking for like

the encyclopedia bricktanic or

you know something on it but i'm just

figuring if the guy would be like hey

man just look out for this this and this

and otherwise you'd be cool

and didn't say anything the guy was like

a real curmudgeon

and that turned me off a little bit but

not so badly

and i said well obviously i'd like to

serve you guys but i'm looking at a few

cars

is it possible that if i give you the

vin numbers you can tell me if

it has had any service or recalls etc

and he kind of just like

just did not want to be bothered at all

um

but he agreed to let me send the vin

numbers in of the cars we were looking

at

and we did never heard a word back never

picked up the phone after that so i'm

like okay this is not a good sign about

getting the cars serviced in

wherever in pennsylvania this place is

so i talked to the karma dealer in

indianapolis and they can in fact look

after fiska karmas

although they were trying to sell me a

used karma from a few years ago because

the price has come down enough and

they've had a lot of bugs worked out

could be worthwhile

but that was outside of the price range

of what my wife and i could spend so

i said well i really appreciate that's

good to know and maybe in the future but

we're going to be looking at fisker

karmas

and that guy was nice and did the same

thing uh he actually offered to let me

send the vin numbers and cars

to see what it was and i said hey i'm

going to be in indianapolis from some

other things relating to racing and

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i'd love to come by the dealership check

out the cars meet you and just see what

you think

so i sent him the vin numbers and

uh emailed it no response

then i called again no response

meanwhile i the the karma dealer in indy

um he knew i would be coming the next

week and i was going to get a hold so i

left him

i'll be you know i'll be there on you

know tuesday or wednesday or whatever it

is nothing back

and then i called again and then i

called again when i went to indianapolis

nothing never got back and

i realized that there are you know

facebook uh

groups for fisker karma things like that

out there there's a lot of enthusiasts

and the guy at um indy you know the

the person the head guy at the

dealership it was funny because when i

went

to leave the phone i'm like hey thanks

very much for your time goodbye

he goes his his closing greeting or

whatever was

welcome to the fellowship and i'm like

easy dude i'm not trying to join a cult

i'm just thinking about buying a fisker

so it's kind of funny

obviously nothing negative but i at that

point

i didn't care as much i had already

realized that the place in pennsylvania

was either too busy

or didn't want to take me serious or

just didn't care so i kind of written

them off

and then my only other reasonable

opportunity to have a good relationship

with a fiscal karma for my wife and

maintaining it was the dealership in

indianapolis

and they absolutely dropped the ball did

not get back to any calls or emails

at all um and i just told my wife i said

i think the car is neat as can be and

i'd love to have one

but it doesn't seem there's any

worthwhile support of anybody who cares

so we can't do this car

which is sad because i think it's a

really interesting concept and it's the

first time in my

car owning career of the many funky and

weird cars i've had

and i even daily drove a delorean for

two and a half years

whether it's rain shine or snow and ice

and had no problems but the fiskar

karmas were just like

i don't know what to tell you so that's

why we didn't do it um and

i doing this video not to knock

or take away from either tesla or

uh fisker because i think they're both

fast fascinating and interesting

concepts

and great cars and maybe someday i'll

own one or my wife will own one if we

find a better relationship with a place

that can help

service or at least computer interface

with the fisker

um or if we have more money and feel

like being more boring with a tesla no

offense but

you know what i mean um and so instead

she got a very good deal on an 08

miles already gran turismo has the true

automatic transmission so that doesn't

wear out those engines do well

uh relatively easy to change oil and

while if you're going to a dealership to

deal with the computer which the car is

actually right now at a ferrari maserati

dealer where they're actually trading us

well had a little computer

glitches um it'll be right back in

action so for the same price point

she could have a world caliber cool

italian car that should be

relatively reliable or at least in the

scope of reason

and so

i guess that's just the way it didn't

work out so i wanted to bring that up

relating to fisker karma i think it's a

really interesting car i'd love to have

one i love the concept

uh i think the community uh is pretty

cool and there's a lot of people could

could be into one and i think there's

also a lot of youtube videos that are

really stupid where they say stupid

trite things to slander the car to get

views

and i don't think that's fair and i feel

badly that i'm making this video as to

why we didn't buy one but i think this

hopefully will be helpful

to community of people wanting to when

you're trying to realize you need to

have that relationship with a service

type place

and also hopefully a wake-up call for

the places that can service a fisker

that's like hey guys maybe you should be

slightly nicer or

once in a blue moon get back on a phone

call or email to a person

so that you know you keep having

business in the future

um and in terms of the tesla i will

leave this one parting thought

which i'm not into so this is by no

means

a i can't say conspiracy theory it's

okay algorithm don't bite me i'm not a

freak but in all seriousness so

teslas are really amazing because they

can drive themselves but they require

you to be

kind of engaged and attentive for the

legality purpose all but the cars can

drive themselves or neighbor has one

it's really cool and it drives itself

out of its garage and i'm just like

that's insane

the thing i don't like as an individual

about a car that is controlled by a

computer

that can literally drive you around is

at what point does the automobile drive

itself

and just became a physical mana

manifestation

of internet algorithms driving people

to exactly the middle of the bell curve

where it wants to put you

because it can make the algorithm can

make the most money off you or it fits

best within the system

at what point does that happen because

that's not a stretch

that's already happening but i'm an

individual

and i love art and life and the

differences

of people and everything out there and

the thing that i find is

the art and life and those unique

differences that make life interesting

and worth enjoying

are all the things that are on the

outskirts of the algorithm

that you have to go out and seek and

find look

and listen because if you just go by

what the algorithms give you

life gets really boring in the middle of

the bell curve

um so it's the same thing for cars

and for my wife she trove chose a

maserati

and maybe it'll be a little bit

cantankerous and

hopefully in the day we have something

that maybe is a little more

environmentally friendly

but it's never going to be a slave to an

algorithm

and if everything gets too crazy i'll

just have a nice horse

and feed it hayden carrots and we'll

ride it and

that's that so horsepower whether it's a

friendly friend on four legs with hooves

or a maserati very cool and in terms of

the electric car and ev community

uh yeah you guys might want to work on

your standards of like customer

relations to have things serviced

and tesla stop being so boring middle of

bell curve algorithm that doesn't work

for us rugged individualist artist types

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pterosaur yes so that's why we didn't

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someday in the future but for right now

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