How to Fill Out Form 5472. Step-by-Step Instructions for Disregarded LLC

Jason D. Knott
18 Jan 202424:10

Summary

TLDRThis video tutorial provides a comprehensive guide on how to prepare and file Form 5472 for a foreign-owned disregarded LLC for the 2023 tax year. The presenter uses the example of 'Adam Non-Resident LLC', a single-member LLC engaged in a U.S. trade or business, to illustrate the process. The video covers the annual filing requirements for foreign-owned U.S. LLCs that are disregarded entities, explains who needs to submit Form 5472, and details what constitutes reportable transactions. The presenter also discusses the necessity of filing Form 5472 even if the entity isn't liable for U.S. taxes. The tutorial includes a step-by-step walkthrough of filling out Form 5472, including reporting capital contributions, distributions, and related party transactions. Additionally, the video explains the connection between Form 1040NR and Form 5472 filings, emphasizing the importance of reporting effectively connected income (ECI). The presenter provides a clear explanation of each section of the form, ensuring viewers understand how to disclose foreign ownership and related party transactions accurately.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“œ Adam Non-Resident LLC, a foreign-owned disregarded entity, must file Form 5472 annually alongside Form 1120 for the 2023 tax year.
  • 🌐 The LLC is engaged in a U.S. trade or business, requiring the foreign owner to report income, expenses, and pay taxes on Form 1040NR with Schedule C.
  • πŸ” Form 5472 is used to report transactions between the LLC and foreign persons, including capital contributions, distributions, and other payments.
  • 🀝 Adam hires his brother Bob for bookkeeping services, creating a reportable transaction due to Bob being a foreign related party.
  • πŸ’Ό Adam Non-Resident LLC has an EIN for filing purposes, while Adam himself uses an ITIN for his personal tax filings.
  • πŸ“Š Financial statements for the LLC include sales, cost of goods sold, various expenses, and a net loss for the year.
  • πŸ’΅ Capital contributions of $8,174 and a distribution of $1,000 to Adam are reportable transactions on Form 5472.
  • πŸ“ Part II of Form 5472 requires information on the foreign owner, which in this case is Adam, a Bermudian citizen and resident.
  • 🏒 The LLC's principal business activity is operating vending machines within the U.S., which constitutes a U.S. trade or business.
  • 🧾 Part IV of Form 5472 is left blank as there were no tax-deductible payments made to Adam, the owner.
  • πŸ”— A separate Form 5472 is filed for the transaction with Bob, detailing the $450 payment for bookkeeping services, which is tax-deductible for the LLC.

Q & A

  • What is the purpose of Form 5472?

    -Form 5472 is used to report certain transactions between a foreign-owned U.S. disregarded entity (such as an LLC) and its foreign owner or related parties. It is an annual filing requirement for foreign-owned U.S. LLCs that are disregarded entities.

  • What is a disregarded entity for U.S. tax purposes?

    -A disregarded entity for U.S. tax purposes is a single-member LLC that is not recognized as a separate entity from its owner for federal tax purposes. It is treated as a 'disregarded' entity unless it files an entity classification election (Form 8832) to be treated as a corporation.

  • Who needs to file Form 5472?

    -Foreign-owned U.S. LLCs that are disregarded entities need to file Form 5472 if there are any reportable transactions during the year. This includes capital contributions, distributions, and other payments.

  • What is a foreign person for U.S. tax purposes?

    -A foreign person for U.S. tax purposes is anyone who is a non-U.S. tax resident. This includes individuals who are not U.S. citizens, do not hold a U.S. green card, and do not meet the substantial presence test.

  • What are reportable transactions on Form 5472?

    -Reportable transactions on Form 5472 include capital contributions and distributions, other amounts paid in connection with forming or dissolving an LLC, and payments to foreign related parties. Almost every LLC will have reportable transactions.

  • Why is Form 1040NR also filed in this scenario?

    -Form 1040NR is filed because the foreign owner of the LLC is engaged in a U.S. trade or business and has effectively connected income (ECI). The foreign owner reports all the activity on a Schedule C of Form 1040NR.

  • What is the role of the ITIN in this context?

    -An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is used by the foreign owner to file Form 1040NR and can also be used on the 5472 filings. The LLC needs its own Employer Identification Number (EIN) to file Form 5472.

  • Why are there two separate Form 5472s in this example?

    -There are two separate Form 5472s because one is to disclose the foreign ownership of Adam and the other is to report the reportable transaction between the LLC and the foreign related party, which is Bob, Adam's brother.

  • What is the significance of the business activity code on Form 5472?

    -The business activity code on Form 5472 is used to identify the principal business activity of the reporting corporation (the LLC). It is looked up in the instructions and helps the IRS categorize the business for tax purposes.

  • What is the difference between monetary and non-monetary transactions in the context of Form 5472?

    -Monetary transactions on Form 5472 are those involving the exchange of money, such as capital contributions and distributions. Non-monetary transactions might include services or other forms of exchange that do not directly involve money.

  • How are related party transactions reported on Form 5472?

    -Related party transactions are reported in Part III of Form 5472. They must be disclosed if there is a transaction between the LLC and a foreign related party, such as a family member or an entity in which the foreign owner has an interest.

  • What is the purpose of including a federal supporting statement or attachment with Form 5472?

    -The federal supporting statement or attachment provides additional details about the reportable transactions and can help clarify the nature of the transactions between the foreign-owned LLC and its foreign owner or related parties.

Outlines

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πŸ“ Introduction to Form 5472 for Foreign-Owned LLC

The video introduces Form 5472 for a foreign-owned disregarded LLC for the 2023 tax year, discussing the necessity of filing this form alongside Form 1120 as a cover page. The LLC in question, Adam Nonresident LLC, is engaged in a U.S. Trader business, necessitating the reporting of income, expenses, and taxes. The video follows up on a previous tutorial about preparing Form 1040NR and focuses on Form 5472, including financial statements and background information on the form and the fact pattern of the LLC's operations.

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πŸ’Ό LLC Setup and Transactions

Adam Nonresident, a Bermudian citizen, establishes a Florida LLC without electing to be a C-Corp. He opens a bank account, transfers funds, and purchases a vending machine and inventory. The LLC also hires Bob, Adam's brother, for bookkeeping services, which is a reportable transaction due to Bob being a foreign related party. Adam is advised that the vending machines' physical presence in Florida constitutes a U.S. Trader business, leading to effectively connected income (ECI) and the requirement to file Form 1040NR and Form 5472.

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πŸ“‹ Filing Requirements and Ownership Details

The video explains the annual filing requirement for Form 5472 for foreign-owned U.S. LLCs that are disregarded entities. It details who needs to submit the form, the definition of a foreign person for U.S. tax purposes, and the broad scope of reportable transactions. The LLC's financial statements are reviewed, showing sales, costs, and various expenses, all of which are reported on Schedule C of Form 1040NR. The capital contributions, distributions, and related party payment are highlighted as reportable transactions on the 5472.

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🏒 Business Activities and Tax Reporting

The video outlines the process of reporting the LLC's business activities, including the engagement in a U.S. Trader business and the need to file Form 5472 even if no U.S. taxes are owed. It emphasizes the importance of reporting capital contributions, distributions, and other payments related to the formation or dissolution of the LLC. The video also discusses the use of an EIN for the LLC and the disclosure of the U.S. tax ID number for the foreign owner on Form 5472.

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πŸ” Detailed 5472 Filing and Related Party Transactions

The tutorial delves into the specifics of completing Form 5472, including reporting the foreign owner and related party transactions. It covers the LLC's principal business activity, the reportable transactions between the LLC and Adam, and the separate 5472 required for the related party transaction with Bob. The video explains how to report monetary transactions that were deducted or included as income, and the need for a federal supporting statement or attachment to elaborate on the reportable transactions.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Form 5472

Form 5472 is an IRS form required to be filed annually by foreign-owned U.S. LLCs that are disregarded entities. It is used to report information about the LLC's transactions and ownership. In the video, the focus is on preparing and filing this form for a foreign-owned disregarded LLC engaged in a U.S. Trader business, with examples of capital contributions, distributions, and other reportable transactions being discussed.

πŸ’‘Disregarded Entity

A disregarded entity is a legal entity that is treated as a part of its owner for tax purposes. In the context of the video, the LLC is a single-member entity that is disregarded for federal tax purposes, meaning its income and expenses are reported on the owner's personal tax return rather than on a separate corporate return. The video explains that the LLC can file an entity classification election form (Form 8832) to be treated as a corporation, which would change its tax status and reporting requirements.

πŸ’‘U.S. Trader

A U.S. Trader is a term used to describe a business that engages in trade or business within the United States. In the video, the LLC is engaged in a U.S. Trader business, which means it has effectively connected income and must report this income on the owner's Form 1040NR. This creates a requirement for the foreign owner to file both Form 5472 and Form 1040NR to report the business activities and pay applicable taxes.

πŸ’‘Foreign Owner

A foreign owner, as discussed in the video, refers to an individual who is not a U.S. tax resident. This includes non-U.S. citizens, green card holders, or individuals who do not meet the substantial presence test. The video uses the example of Adam, a Bermudian citizen and resident, who is considered a foreign owner and is required to report his ownership and transactions with the LLC on Form 5472.

πŸ’‘Reportable Transactions

Reportable transactions are certain types of transactions that must be reported on Form 5472. These include capital contributions, distributions, and other payments made by or to the LLC. In the video, examples of reportable transactions include the $8,000 capital contribution made by Adam and the $1,000 distribution he took from the LLC during the year. Additionally, payments made to related parties, such as the $450 paid to Adam's brother for bookkeeping services, are also considered reportable transactions.

πŸ’‘Form 1120

Form 1120 is a U.S. corporate income tax return form. In the video, it is mentioned that Form 1120 is filed alongside Form 5472 as a 'cover page' for the foreign-owned disregarded LLC. While the LLC is not a corporation and thus does not pay corporate income tax, the form is used to satisfy the reporting requirements for the foreign owner's U.S. tax obligations.

πŸ’‘Form 1040NR

Form 1040NR is used by nonresident aliens and foreign entities to report their U.S. source income and pay any taxes owed. In the video, Adam, as the foreign owner of the LLC, must file Form 1040NR to report the effectively connected income from the U.S. Trader business. This form is filed in addition to Form 5472 to fulfill the tax and reporting obligations for the foreign owner's U.S. activities.

πŸ’‘Initial Return

An initial return refers to the first tax return filed by a business or individual with the IRS. In the video, it is indicated that the LLC is filing its first Form 5472 as an initial return since the entity was established mid-year 2023. This is important as it affects how the tax year is reported and whether any applicable penalties or fees apply.

πŸ’‘Foreign Related Party

A foreign related party refers to any person related to the foreign owner of the LLC, which could include family members or entities created in non-U.S. jurisdictions. In the video, Adam's brother Bob is a foreign related party due to their familial relationship. Transactions between the LLC and a foreign related party are considered reportable transactions and must be disclosed on Form 5472.

πŸ’‘Effectively Connected Income (ECI)

Effectively Connected Income (ECI) refers to income that is connected with the conduct of a trade or business within the United States. In the video, the LLC's income from its vending machine business in Florida is considered ECI because the business activities and the physical presence of the vending machines are within the U.S. This income is taxable to the foreign owner and must be reported on Form 1040NR.

πŸ’‘Schedule C

Schedule C is a form used to report profits or losses from a business operated or conducted by the taxpayer. In the video, Adam reports all the activity of the LLC on Schedule C of his Form 1040NR. This includes sales, cost of goods sold, and various business expenses related to the vending machine business.

Highlights

The video discusses Form 5472 for a foreign-owned disregarded LLC for the 2023 tax year.

The LLC in the example is 'Adam Non-Resident LLC', a single-member LLC filing as a disregarded entity.

The Form 1120 is used as a cover page, with Form 5472 filed alongside it.

Adam Non-Resident LLC is engaged in a U.S. trade or business, necessitating a Form 1040NR filing.

The video provides a detailed walkthrough of preparing and filing Form 5472, including financial statements.

Reportable transactions on Form 5472 include capital contributions, distributions, and other payments.

The LLC must file Form 5472 annually, regardless of whether it has U.S. Trader business or not.

Adam, the foreign owner, is a Bermudian citizen and tax resident, making him a foreign person for U.S. tax purposes.

The LLC opens a bank account, makes purchases, and incurs expenses, including a payment to Adam's brother for bookkeeping services.

The video explains the need to report the foreign ownership of Adam and the transaction with the foreign related party, Bob.

Adam's LLC has an ITIN for filing purposes, while the LLC itself requires an EIN.

The financial statements of the LLC are reviewed to understand the capital contributions, distributions, and related party payments.

The video outlines how to fill out the initial return on Form 1120 for the LLC.

Schedule K is completed for the LLC, even though it's optional for disregarded entities.

The Form 5472 requires detailed reporting of transactions between the LLC and its foreign owner, as well as related parties.

The video includes a sample tutorial on how to fill out Form 1040NR, which complements the Form 5472 filing process.

The presenter provides a step-by-step guide on completing the 5472 form, including parts one through eight.

The video concludes with a review of the tax return, ensuring all requirements for a foreign-owned disregarded LLC are met.

Transcripts

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all right for this video I want to go

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over a sample form 5472 for a foreign

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owned disregarded LLC and this is going

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to be for the

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2023 tax year so our LLC here is Adam

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nonresident LLC so it's filing the

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5472 uh together with the proor 1120 so

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the Form 1120 is filed as kind of a

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cover page and the form 5472 is behind

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it now in this example uh this is video

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two following the first one which covers

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how to prepare the 1040nr so in our fact

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pattern here we have a disregarded LLC

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but the entity is engaged in a US Trader

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business so it has to report the income

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expenses and pay taxes so the form

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1040nr filing here is for the foreign

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owner I'll put a link to this video in

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the description below uh so Adam here

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files the 1040nr he reports all the

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activity on a schedule C but in addition

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to doing this he has to also prepare and

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file the form 5472 and so that's what

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this video is going to focus on so I've

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got the form 5472 here with the 1120

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we've also got the financial statements

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for the company here so we'll go through

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these as well and then I've got two

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slides just covering some background on

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the 5472 and then the fact pattern

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itself so if we start here generally

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talking about what what is required when

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you file the form 5472 and who needs to

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submit it so this filing is done on an

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annual basis and it is for foreign owned

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us llc's that are disregarded entities

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so an LLC that is form with one owner is

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going to be by default a disregarded

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entity the LLC has the option to file an

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entity classification election so that's

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the

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8832 if it wants to be treated as a

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corporation for federal tax purposes now

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if it files that it is no longer a

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disregarded entity it's a regarded

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entity that's taxable as a C Corp and so

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that's a different

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filing uh different principles apply

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because the entity is now uh directly a

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US tax resident so when we talk about

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who is a foreign person for us tax

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purposes we're looking at anyone who is

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a non us tax resident right so us tax

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residents are US citizens us green card

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holders or individuals that meet that

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substantial presence test so in our case

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Adam non-resident here he's going to be

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a ber muta Citizen and tax resident so

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he's going to be a foreign individual

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you can also have llc's that are owned

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by Foreign corporations or foreign

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Partnerships and so those are entities

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that are created in non us

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jurisdictions and as far as reportable

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transactions so the 5472 needs to be

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filed if there are any reportable

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transactions during the year

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and reportable transactions uh is

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incredibly broad right and so virtually

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every LLC is going to need to file

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because it's going to have reportable

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transactions and so reportable

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transactions are capital contributions

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and distributions and other like

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payments and so that's what we're going

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to see uh with our fact pattern here now

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this specific example again we're going

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to address a scenario where the LLC is

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engaged in US Trader business and has

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ECI and so the non-resident here has to

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file the 5472 with the proor 1120 and

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then they've also got to separately file

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the 1040nr and so I have a sample

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tutorial again I'll put the link uh

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Below in the description so you can head

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over and watch that 1040nr uh tutorial

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if you want to learn more about that uh

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now if the business activities do not

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give rise to us Trader business this

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form 5472 filing is still required so

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even if the entity or or the owner isn't

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liable for any US taxes it is still a

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reporting requirement all right and I

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have other videos covering uh those

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sample uh kind of scenarios as well

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again those will be in the description

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below so when we talk about reportable

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transactions uh in these cases we're

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looking at things like Capital

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contributions and

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distributions uh other amounts paid in

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connection with forming an LLC or

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dissolving an L LLC and what we'll also

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see in this video uh because there is a

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foreign related party uh we also have

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reportable transactions that are

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actually uh tax deductible by the

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business when it filed its

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1040nr so let's cover the details of the

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fact pattern and then we'll start

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looking at the return so in our fact

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pattern here we have Adam non-resident

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who's a citizen and resident in Bermuda

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and he wants to start a vending machine

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business in Florida so he decides that

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he's going to open a Florida LLC is a

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sole owner he personally pays the state

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filing fee and the registered agent fee

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and does not make this election to be a

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c cor all right that's very very

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important right so this entity remains a

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single member LLC and a disregarded

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entity for US federal tax purposes now

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after the LLC is open he uh opens a bank

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account transfers $8,000 into it and the

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LLC purchases the vending machine uh

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purchases some inventory has other

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expenses uh and so on so uh in addition

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to these items Adam also decides to hire

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his uh brother Bob he's going to pay his

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brother Bob $450 for bookkeeping

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services during the year now Bob is also

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a Bermuda Citizen and Resident so he's

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not in the US because Bob is a foreign

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related party right he is related to

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Adam the transaction between the LLC and

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Bob should also be disclosed on the 5472

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so in this situation we're actually

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going to have two 5472 to disclose uh

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the foreign ownership of Adam and then

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the reportable transaction between the

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LLC and the foreign related party which

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is

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Bob now Adam was advised that the

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physical presence of the vending machine

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in Florida is going to create this us

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Trader business problem and so he's

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engaged in a US Trader business he has

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effectively connected income and so in

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addition to this 5472 he's also filing

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the

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1040nr all right now Adam has an IT 10

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which he used to file that 1040nr and he

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can also use the same it 10 on his

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5472 filings now the LLC of course needs

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its own Ein in order to file the 5472

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you can't use the it of adom for for

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that that purposes uh but you'll see on

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the 5472 there is a placeholder to

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disclose us tax ID number for the

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foreign owner if that person has

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one okay so let's briefly go through the

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financial statements just so we get a

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sense of what happened here during the

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year but we can see here that Adam had

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uh some sales so sales activity through

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the vending machine cost of good sold

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the inventory that was sold as part of

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those sales and then some various

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expenses right all of these expenses

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were reported on Schedule C of the form

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1040nr when Adam reported all of this

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activity now the business did have a net

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loss for the year so the Adam didn't

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actually pay any US taxes yet uh but

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nevertheless it was still required to be

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reported because he has a

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us on the balance sheet side we see cash

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accounts the fixed assets some accounts

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payable and in the equity section here

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we could see the capital contributions

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made by Adam during the year so that

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number is the

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$88,000 that he transferred into the

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bank account right that's a capital

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contribution and the

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$174 are the filing fees and registered

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agent fees that he paid when he set up

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the company right he personally paid

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those amounts and so that also counts as

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a reportable transaction right fees uh

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that you personally paid as the owner

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and the formation or the dissolution of

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the entity counts towards that balance

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now the Capital distributions he took a

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$1,000 draw during the year so uh these

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are reported as separate amounts we have

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so we have the capital contributions of

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8174 and a distribution to Adam of

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$1,000 and then the related party

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payment right so if we look at the

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bookkeeping line item we could see this

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was the payment to his brother Bob

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$450 uh for bookkeeping services that

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was a deduction for the company but it's

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also a reportable transaction and so

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what we're going to see on the

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5472 are each of these amounts reported

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but in in separate areas okay all right

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so let's have a look at the tax return

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here we'll go through the 54 72s both of

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them and then that proor 1120 at the

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beginning so let's start at the

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beginning with the proor 1120 so when

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you submit this you're submitting the

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1120 the first six pages but you only

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have to really complete the top section

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here so the 1120 we have the name of the

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LLC Adam non-resident LLC the Ein and

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the date The Entity was created and then

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the mailing address for the business and

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then we have marked in box e initial

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return because this is the initial

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filing now for the time period The

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Entity wasn't set up until June 9th and

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so what we've done is we've inputed June

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9th through the end of the year because

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it's not a full calendar year

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2023 and then the IRS requests that at

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the top you write foreign owned usde to

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indicate that it's a foreign owned us

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disregarded entity and then this

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document is mailed to the IRS or it can

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be faxed to the IRS at the appropriate

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fax

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number now if we move on to this uh

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second and third Pages here none of

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these apply because this isn't a

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corporate entity right so again for the

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instructions they don't require that you

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complete any of these other sections and

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most of these sections uh certainly

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don't apply schedule K argu arguably

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does some have some relevant information

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here so you can complete this but again

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this is optional but we have gone ahead

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and completed it anyway uh so question

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four they're asking us did any

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individual own more than uh 20% or more

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or directly or indirectly 50% or more of

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the stock in this case yes right so uh

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we did attach a schedule G that reported

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that Adam Own 100% of the company and

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question seven it's asking us here did

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any person for foreign person

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specifically right us persons wouldn't

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be reported here but any foreign person

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own uh stock in the company and the

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answer is yes so a 100% ownership in

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Bermuda and then we do have uh normally

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you would just have 15472 attached to

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report the foreign owner uh but in this

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case because we have that related party

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transaction amount uh and we did take a

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tax deduction for the payment right

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because this is an entity

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that's engaged in US Trader business and

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has ECI we're going to have a separate

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5472 and then the remaining questions

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schedule K can be answered you know yes

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or no as appropriate uh if we scroll

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down to the balance sheet again don't

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have to report balance sheet uh for

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purposes of this filing right you don't

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have to do this if this is a forn usde

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just filing the

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5472 so we have uh schedule G included

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there so we've reported Adam's

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information again not necessary but

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we've done it nevertheless just for

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completeness and so now the real meat of

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the filing is in this

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5472 so the 5472 here the reporting

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Corporation is the LLC so we have Adam

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non-resident LLC the E and then the

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mailing address in the US this can be us

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or

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foreign right we have the US address the

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mail foring address listed here

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principal business activity of the

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reporting Corporation is the vending

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machines and we've looked up the

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appropriate business activity code in

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the

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instructions now lines 1 F through 1H

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right the gross payments made or

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received that are being reported so

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these are the reportable

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transactions so you can see we have two

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different amounts here we have a

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different we have an amount in 1 F and

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amount in 1 H 1H is the total of all

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reportable transaction payments made or

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received across all the the

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5472 and then 1f is the reportable

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amount that applies to this specific

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5472 so if we look back at our financial

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statements remember the amounts that

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Adam has as reportable transactions are

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the capital contributions and

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distributions so the 8174 and 1,000 is

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the

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9174 and then that related party payment

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to his brother

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is450 so the 9 , 174 are the reportable

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transactions between the company and

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Adam as the owner and then the other

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$450 is going to be for Bob and we'll

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look at that 5472 next so you have to

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remember if you've got multiple 5472 a

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total across all and then each one

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individually should report the amount

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that is attributed to just that specific

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5472 1j here it is an initial year so

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we've check the box there country of

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incorporation for the llc's in the US uh

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and then where business activities are

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cond deducted or conducted rather can is

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in the US you could also list other

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countries as well so um Adam could list

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Bermuda here as well if makes the

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argument that well business is conducted

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there also that's fine uh then the date

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of

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incorporation The Entity was set up June

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9th 2023 and then Lin two and three here

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right U at least 50% of the stock was

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owned by Foreign persons so we've

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checked that and then in box three we

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are also checking that this is a

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reporting Corp which is a foreign owned

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domestic disregarded entity okay treated

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as a COR for purposes of the section

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6038 cap a reporting

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obligations all right so now into part

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two information on the shareholder so

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this is where you would report the 100%

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owner so we've got Adam non-resident his

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address in Bermuda and he does have a US

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tax ID number right which is what he

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also used to file the 1040nr so we've

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got that listed there principal

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countries where he conducts his business

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is in Bermuda he is a citizen of Bermuda

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and he's a resident of Bermuda right so

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we've indicated Bermuda across 4 C

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through e reference ID number should be

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populated if you don't have a us ID but

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you can also enter it uh even if you do

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so we've just entered his name again

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Adam nonresident and then the rest of

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these are blank because he is the 100%

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owner so we should we wouldn't

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necessarily have any other entries for

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other uh direct 25% owners because in

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this case he owns 100% moving on to part

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three this is where we would report Adam

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as that related party right and this is

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because of the reportable trans trans

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actions happening between the LLC and

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Adam as a related party to the business

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so we've got Adam's name and information

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listed again here so Adam non-resident

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his us ID vending machine business

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business activity code and then in line

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8 e where we indicate the relationship

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we've marked the 25% shareholder box

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right so in this case Adam is uh the

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relationship between Adam and this LLC

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is that he is the shareholder right so

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we've indicated there that he is the

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shareholder now part four creates a lot

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of confusion so part four is blank here

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uh because part four is where we report

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income or expenses that were actually

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deducted in arriving at taxable income

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for the business in this case there were

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no payments made to Adam that were tax

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deductible right because he's the owner

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he's a so proprietor everything that

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happened just kind of flows through to

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him the only transactions really that

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happen between the LLC and Adam are

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those Capital contributions and

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distributions which are reported in part

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five but in this case you only report

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those M monetary transactions between

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the reporting Corp and the foreign party

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if they were taken as deductions so uh

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if we look or or included as income so

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if Adam put money into the company and

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it was treated as income

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it could be reported up here if the

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company made payments to Adam that were

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tax deductible on schedule seia that

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1040 and R it would be reported here but

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we don't have any entries right because

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that doesn't apply uh between the LLC

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and Adam what we do have is part five

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reportable

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transactions of a reporting corporation

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that is a foreign own usde this is where

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most foreign owned usds report that

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information and then part six uh any

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kind of non-monetary relationships so

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we've checked these boxes and we're

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going to include a statement behind the

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5472 but before we get to that uh we'll

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look at Parts seven and eight here so

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additional information answer questions

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yes or no is appropriate in most cases

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these are all just going to be no right

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so none of these apply in these

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circumstances where you would have some

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yes answers perhaps uh is if this wasn't

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a foreign owned us disregarded any if

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this was a US corporation uh that had

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foreign ownership and some related party

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transactions you would often see some

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yes answers in part seven cost sharing

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Arrangements none apply uh so we've

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indicated no and then stamped not

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applicable in line

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44 now the federal supporting statement

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or the attachment this is what we have

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up here statements five and six so in

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statements five and six we've elaborated

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on those Capital contributions addition

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distribution so uh we've got just a

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little narrative here explaining why

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we're filing it so we have Adam

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non-resident LLC is a foreign owned

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single member LLC that is a disregarded

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entity the company is engaged in the

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business of operating vending machines

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that are physically located within the

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US the company is filing this form to

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disclose the capital

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contributions and distributions between

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the LLC and the Soul form member uh the

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foreign member has also filed the form

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1040nr with a Schedule C to report the

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US effectively connected income now the

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capital contributions and distributions

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between the company and the sole foreign

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member are as follows and so we've

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listed out on a gross basis the capital

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contributions and distributions and then

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the second part in part six the

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non-monetary we just want to disclose

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that uh the foreign member here is

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actively involved in the business so

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they serve as the managing member and he

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materially participates in the

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operations however he is a citizen and

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resident of Bermuda and does all of this

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while physically present in Bermuda so

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he's not physically coming to the US to

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do any of this work all right so that's

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the first 5472 and in most cases uh most

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foreign know us diores kind of stopped

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there but in this case we've got a

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little bit of a Twist where uh Adam does

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hire his brother to do some work for him

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and because the brother is a related

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party for purposes of these rules a

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foreign related party uh that

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relationship should also be disclosed so

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on the second

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5472 we report basically all the same

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information that we had on the first

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page or the first one uh the difference

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here is in line 1f right so remember

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Line 1 H is the total across all two but

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in line 1 F we have the four

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$450 uh payment that's going to be

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reported here to the related party so

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that's the reportable transaction on

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this

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5472 so again Adam listed as the foreign

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shareholder remember Bob is not a

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foreign shareholder but he is a related

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party so in part three we've got the

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name and address of that related party

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we've got Bob non-resident we have his

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address Somerset Village in Bermuda the

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US ID number so Bob does not have an IT

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10 so you can use foreign us as a

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placeholder we've got a reference ID for

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Bob the business

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activity with uh which Bob is engaged in

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is accounting the principal business

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activity code for accounting uh

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businesses conducted here 8f and 8G in

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Bermuda and then on line 8e the

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relationship notice now we've checked

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related to the 25% shareholder so Bob is

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related to Adam who is the 25%

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shareholder so we've indicated this

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check mark here now part four where we

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actually see some data so remember this

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is filed separately from the 1040 andr

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filing so this is Adams 1040 andr and on

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Schedule C we can see that he reported

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all of the income and expenses and we

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did take a tax deduction for a $450

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payment

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for Professional Services that was the

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bookkeeping fee so because the reporting

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Corp took that deduction we want to

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report that payment made between the

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reporting Corporation and the foreign

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related party so on line 29 we've listed

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the $450 as consideration paid uh to the

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the related party Bob

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non-resident uh and enter the total down

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there on the bottom it's a line 36 so

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now uh We've we've appropriately

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reported everything that would be

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required uh under these circumstances

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now uh again it is a foreign own usde

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but in this case the related party here

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uh Bob is not the owner and he didn't

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have any of these other transactions

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right he didn't make any contributions

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or receive any distributions uh because

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he was Simply Hired to do the company's

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books right and so that's been reported

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there that's fine okay uh and then the

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same thing for Bob's um Parts seven and

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eight and nine you know answer answer as

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as appropriate right depending on the

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circumstances but again in this case

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none of these elements apply uh to this

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LLC or or to Bob or to Adam okay so we

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just answer no and then not applicable

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across the board okay so that covers it

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for this tutorial I hope that was

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helpful uh again go check out that

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1040nr tutorial as well so you can see

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kind of the whole picture uh but uh I

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hope that was helpful and if you have

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any questions obviously feel free to

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leave a question or comment below and I

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look forward to seeing you again on the

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next video thank you

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