NEW SEBI RULES: The Good, Bad & Ugly!

P R Sundar
2 Oct 202421:14

Summary

TLDRIn this episode, PR Su discusses the latest SEBI regulations, particularly focusing on six major changes. Key topics include an increase in contract size, a 2% extra margin on expiry day, and new rules about weekly expiries. These changes primarily affect small option sellers and buyers, with professional option sellers remaining largely unaffected. The episode highlights the potential disadvantages for option buyers and the market dynamics that will shift due to these changes, while also touching on minor regulatory updates effective from 2025.

Takeaways

  • 💼 The contract size for options trading has increased from a minimum of ₹5 lakhs to ₹15 lakhs, impacting small traders more than larger ones.
  • 📊 The increase in contract size doesn't triple the Nifty and Bank Nifty lot sizes but roughly doubles them, reducing the impact on traders.
  • 🙋‍♂️ Small option sellers may be forced to switch to buying, as they can no longer afford the larger contract sizes, which is unfavorable for them.
  • 📉 Option buyers will be at a disadvantage since they will now have to purchase cheaper, further out-of-the-money options, reducing their chances of winning.
  • 💸 An additional 2% margin is required on expiry days, increasing the cost of intraday trading for sellers but leaving buyers unaffected.
  • 📅 Exchanges will be limited to offering one weekly expiry per exchange, likely retaining Bank Nifty on NSE and Bankex on BSE, reducing the number of trading opportunities.
  • 📈 The increase in margin requirements and fewer expiries might push up option premiums, affecting option buyers by increasing the cost of their trades.
  • 🔄 Traders with existing positions before November 20 must adjust their portfolios to avoid odd lot sizes due to the upcoming contract size changes.
  • 🧾 From February 2025, upfront collection of premiums from buyers will be mandatory, although this won't drastically affect regular traders.
  • ⚖️ The calendar spread benefit will no longer apply if one leg expires on the same day, though this change is minor and will mostly affect advanced traders.

Q & A

  • What is the first major change introduced by SEBI as discussed in the video?

    -The first major change is the increase in the contract size from a minimum of 5 lakhs to a minimum of 15 lakhs.

  • Why does the speaker believe the increase in contract size is not as drastic as it seems?

    -The speaker explains that while some may expect the contract size to increase threefold, it will likely only increase by about 2.2 to 2.25 times, depending on the trading price of Nifty and Bank Nifty.

  • How will the contract size change impact traders who trade in large quantities?

    -Traders who trade in large quantities (e.g., 10 or 100 lots) will adjust their positions by trading fewer lots. For example, someone who previously traded 10 lots may now trade 5 lots.

  • How will small option sellers be affected by the contract size increase?

    -Small option sellers who only trade one lot may struggle because they cannot trade half a lot. This change may push them to become option buyers.

  • What impact will the contract size increase have on option buyers?

    -Option buyers may be forced to buy options at farther strike prices due to the increased cost of options. This will reduce their probability of making a profit.

  • What is the second major change discussed, and how will it affect traders?

    -The second major change is the introduction of a 2% extra margin on expiry day. This will primarily affect intraday traders who trade on expiry days, as it will increase their required margin by 2%, reducing their potential return on investment.

  • What is the third major change introduced by SEBI?

    -The third major change is that exchanges are now allowed to keep only one weekly expiry per exchange. This means traders can no longer trade expiries on multiple days across the week, reducing their trading opportunities.

  • How will the change to weekly expiries affect intraday traders versus positional traders?

    -Intraday traders, who often trade multiple expiries during the week, will face reduced opportunities and higher margin requirements. Positional traders, on the other hand, will be less affected, as they tend to hold trades for longer periods and adjust positions accordingly.

  • What advice does the speaker give regarding positions held before the November 20 changes?

    -The speaker advises traders to review their portfolios before November 20 to ensure their holdings align with the new contract sizes, as odd-lot positions may need to be adjusted to avoid complications in trading or squaring off.

  • What are the three minor changes effective from 2025, and why are they considered less significant?

    -The three minor changes effective from 2025 are upfront collection of option premium from buyers, intraday position limits monitoring, and calendar spread benefit adjustments. These changes are considered less significant because they will have minimal impact on the majority of traders and are more applicable to niche trading activities.

Outlines

00:00

📊 SEBI Rule Change: Contract Size Increase

PR Su discusses the increase in contract size from 5 lakhs to 15 lakhs, explaining the reasoning behind it. While some people fear the contract size will triple, the actual change will be closer to 2.2 times due to Nifty's current trading levels. For Bank Nifty, the change will double. This change affects smaller option sellers the most, as they can no longer trade with minimal capital, while bigger players are less impacted. Small sellers might shift to becoming option buyers, which puts them at a disadvantage since they’ll have to buy options further away from the strike price, reducing their chances of winning.

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📉 Option Buyers' Challenges: Farther Strike Prices

PR Su explains how increasing the lot size affects option buyers negatively. Buyers with limited capital will be forced to buy cheaper options with farther strike prices, reducing their probability of profiting. The increase in lot size benefits sellers, while buyers are likely to lose more. This rule, which raises the lot size to 15 lakhs, is mostly harmful to option buyers who will struggle to maintain their usual positions.

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📈 Expiry Day Trades: New 2% Margin Rule

SEBI introduces a 2% extra margin requirement on expiry day. While it was initially proposed to be 3% before expiry and 5% on expiry, SEBI settled on 2%. This mainly affects intraday traders who rely on daily expiry trades. PR Su explains how margin increases will cut into the profits of traders, particularly those who trade every day on expiries like Nifty and Sensex. For example, a 10-lakh contract with a 10% margin now requires an extra 20,000 INR, reducing the trader’s return on investment.

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💼 Margin Impact on Sellers and Premium Changes

The extra margin requirement will force option sellers to demand higher premiums to maintain their return on investment. This could lead to increased option premiums, which again disadvantages buyers who will have to pay more. For example, a seller who previously accepted 1,000 INR for an option may now demand 1,200 INR, as they need to cover the higher margin costs. PR Su also notes the change to only one weekly expiry per exchange, with NSE likely to retain Bank Nifty.

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📅 One Weekly Expiry Rule and Its Impact

With only one weekly expiry allowed per exchange, NSE is likely to keep Bank Nifty, while BSE might retain Bankex. Intraday traders who thrive on multiple expiries will be most affected, as they now have fewer trading opportunities. However, PR Su highlights that positional traders, like himself, who don’t rely on daily expiries, will remain largely unaffected. The 2% extra margin on expiry day still applies, but otherwise, the impact is minimal for longer-term strategies.

💸 Lot Size Adjustments and Odd Lots Warning

PR Su advises traders to be cautious about their current positions before November 20, when the lot sizes will change. Traders holding positions that don’t align with the new lot sizes (e.g., having 50 when the new lot is 60) will face challenges, as they won't be able to trade odd lots. He recommends adjusting positions in advance to ensure they align with the new contract sizes and avoid difficulties when squaring off trades.

🔐 New Rules for 2025: Minor Changes for Buyers and Sellers

Looking ahead to 2025, SEBI will introduce a few minor changes, including the upfront collection of option premiums from buyers and new intraday position limits. PR Su clarifies that these are not major concerns for most traders, as brokers already enforce similar rules. The calendar spread benefit will also be limited to certain conditions, but this doesn’t impact the majority of retail traders.

🎲 The Future of SEBI Rules: Professional Sellers vs Gamblers

PR Su concludes by emphasizing that professional option sellers won’t be significantly impacted by SEBI’s new rules. However, intraday traders and those with a gambling mentality—who trade on daily expiries—will face more restrictions and costs. He views the changes as a way to reduce reckless trading behavior while maintaining fairness for more disciplined traders. Option buyers, especially those trading on expiry day, will continue to be at a disadvantage.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡SEBI Rules

SEBI (Securities and Exchange Board of India) Rules refer to the regulatory guidelines set by SEBI, India's securities regulator. In the video, new SEBI rules are discussed, particularly those affecting the financial market, such as changes in contract sizes and margin requirements.

💡Contract Size

Contract size refers to the minimum value of a derivative contract that can be traded. The video discusses how SEBI has increased the minimum contract size from 5 lakhs to 15 lakhs, which impacts trading strategies and the number of lots traders can buy or sell.

💡Lot Size

Lot size is the number of units of a particular security that can be traded in a single transaction. The video explains how the increase in contract size may lead to an increase in lot size, affecting small traders who may not be able to afford the new minimum requirements.

💡Option Seller

An option seller is a trader who sells options contracts, effectively granting the buyer the right, but not the obligation, to buy or sell an underlying asset at a specified price before a certain date. The video discusses how the new rules may affect option sellers, particularly those with small capital.

💡Option Buyer

An option buyer is a trader who purchases options contracts, gaining the right to buy or sell an underlying asset at a specified price before a certain date. The video highlights that the new rules may disadvantage option buyers by forcing them to buy options with less probability of winning.

💡Margin Money

Margin money is the initial amount of money deposited by an investor to open a leveraged position in derivatives. The video mentions that SEBI has introduced a 2% extra margin requirement on expiry day, which increases the capital needed for intraday traders.

💡Expiry Day

Expiry day is the last day on which an options or futures contract can be traded before it becomes invalid. The video discusses the impact of the new rules on traders who specialize in expiry day trades, as they will have to manage increased margin requirements.

💡Weekly Expiry

Weekly expiry refers to the scheduled end of a derivatives contract on a specific week. The video explains that exchanges will be allowed to keep only one weekly expiry per exchange, reducing the number of trading opportunities for certain traders.

💡Intraday Trading

Intraday trading is the practice of buying and selling financial instruments within the same trading day. The video suggests that intraday option sellers may be negatively impacted by the new rules due to increased margin requirements and fewer expiry day trades.

💡Positional Trade

Positional trade refers to holding a position in a security for an extended period, typically days or weeks, with the expectation that the price will move in a favorable direction. The video indicates that positional traders may not be significantly affected by the new rules.

💡Odd Lot

An odd lot is a quantity of shares that is not a standard multiple of the contract size. The video warns that traders with odd lots may face difficulties after the new contract size rules come into effect, as they may not be able to trade these lots and will have to let them expire naturally.

💡Calendar Spread

A calendar spread is an options strategy that involves buying and selling options of the same type, strike price, and underlying asset, but with different expiration dates. The video mentions that the new rules will affect the benefits of calendar spreads, but since few people use this strategy, the impact will be minimal.

Highlights

SEBI introduces new rules affecting option traders with six major changes.

Contract size increases from a minimum of 5 lakhs to a minimum of 15 lakhs.

Government agencies often prepare market participants for such changes well in advance.

The Nifty contract size may increase from 25 to 60 lots, a 2.2-2.25 times increase.

Bank Nifty contract size may change from 15 to 30 lots, doubling rather than tripling.

Small option sellers may be negatively impacted as they cannot trade fractional lots.

The rule is expected to harm option buyers, especially those with smaller budgets.

An additional 2% margin money is required on the day of expiry, slightly less than earlier proposed amounts.

This extra margin will likely reduce the return on investment for intraday traders.

Exchanges will now offer only one weekly expiry per exchange, reducing five different expiries to two.

Option premiums may rise slightly due to increased margin money requirements, further disadvantaging option buyers.

Positional traders remain largely unaffected by these changes, aside from the additional expiry-day margin.

From November 20, traders need to adjust positions to align with the new lot sizes to avoid odd-lot issues.

The upfront collection of option premiums from buyers, effective from February 2025, won't significantly impact most traders.

The calendar spread benefit remains available unless one leg expires on that particular day, affecting few traders.

Transcripts

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hi this is PR Su welcome to the special

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episode where we are going to talk about

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the new sebi rules the good and bad the

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first change there are six major changes

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the first one is the contract size

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increase from minimum 5 lakhs to minimum

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15

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L what usually the government agencies

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they do uh when they do it something you

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know it that can be a n reaction you

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know they don't want to bring abrupt

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changes so they prepare the

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people uh even before the

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event so that is why if you can remember

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they were saying that you know they

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formed a committee that committee

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recommended 20 lakhs to 30 lakhs as the

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minimum CR IA but now the CB has

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announced that it is 15 lakh so the

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people will think you know okay it's

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better than expected so that is how the

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government agencies work you know so

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therefore you know so there is no

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surprise in this uh but what will be the

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impact of this change number

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one uh the impact will be the Nifty now

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the lot size is

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25 the people think you know if 5 lakh

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minimum change to 15 lakh the people

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think contract size will become three

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times that may not be

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true because Nifty right now trading

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around

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25,800 so w contract sizes are roughly

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about 6 lakh

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Plus so if they change to 75 that is

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three times then the contract size may

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be uh 18 lakh plus around 19 lakh plus

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so instead of doing that they may change

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the contract size to 60 so 60 into

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226,000 will be more than 15 lakh so

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therefore it is actually not three times

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it's about uh 2.2 times or 2.25 times

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look at the bank Nifty Bank Nifty uh I

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think it is trading above 50,000 so the

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contract size is 15 now now so 15 into

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50,000 7.5 lakh plus so to make it

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minimum 15 lakh so they do not have to

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increase the lot size by three times

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they just need to increase only two

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times so if my guess is right you know

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going forward the Nifty lot size may be

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change from 25 to 60 the bank Nifty lot

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size may be change from 15 to 30 so

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therefore it's not a very big change

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now what are the

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impacts number one people big people

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always they don't do one lot they always

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do 10 Lots 20 Lots right if the contract

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size doubles somebody who is doing 10

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Lots he will be doing five Lots somebody

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doing 100 Lots he will do 50 Lots so who

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will be affected the guy who is doing

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only one lot the guy doing only one lot

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now he cannot do half a

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lot so very very very

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small people they know those who are

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sellers with a very very small Capital

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may be affected but generally it's

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assumed that the option sellers are not

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you know uh so small people usually

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option sellers are big people say for

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example for those who are coming and

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attending my workshop I just say you

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need to have a minimum capital of 25

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lakh

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rupees right so there you know only

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those few people will be affected what

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will happen to them they will turn as an

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option

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buyers okay so this is from the sellers

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perspective now come from the buyers

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perspective so earlier also I explained

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already if somebody is having only you

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know let us say 150 rupees when the lot

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SI is 15 he will go and buy an option

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priced at 10 Rupees so 15 into 10 150 so

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he will spend 150

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rupees now the lot size is increased to

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30 and so he 30 to 10 Rupees 300 rupees

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but he does not have 300 rupees he has

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only 150 rupees so what he will do he

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will go and buy an option where it is

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trading at 5

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rupees so instead of buying an option

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for 10 Rupees he will go and buy an

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option for 5 rupees so the quantity it

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will be double because the lot SI

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increase so what will happen

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actually so let us say instead of buying

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an option th000 point away now he will

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tend to buy option 2,000 point away so

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thereby reducing the probability of

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winning even

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more so actually you know this change in

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the rule is actually bad only for option

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buyer this is not bad had for option

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seller so this is what I've been

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highlighting for so many years no matter

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what SE does you know that is going to

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be against the option buyer and they

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will lose even

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more so unless a does something you know

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to tackle the option buyer you know the

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no matter how many new rules Come that's

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not going to be effective so that is

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number one so first rule change the

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contract size increased to 15 lakh it's

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not a very big change for big players of

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option sellers very small players of

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option sellers you know that may affect

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them but they may turn as buyers then

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you know the buyers will be at a

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disadvantage because they'll be forced

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to buy option even far away prices far

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away strike prices right so that will

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reduce their probability of making a

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profit very

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much now the second

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one uh there is a 2% extra margin money

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on expiry day as I told you earlier they

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mentally prepared the people already the

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CBI committee earlier proposed uh 3%

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extra margin money the day before

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expiry and 5% extra margin money on the

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day of

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expiry but now the CB has come

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and say only

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2% right now it will affect whom there

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are many people who trade only intraday

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only expiry day I know many of my

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friends Monday they trade in uh midcap

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expiry Tuesday they trade fin Nifty

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expiry Wednesday they Trade Bank Nifty

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expiry Thursday they trade uh Nifty

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expiry Friday they trade sensex expir

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every day they do expiry so now if

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you're doing expiry day trade and then

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your margin money will go up by

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2% now when the margin money go up by 2%

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you know uh the people thinking 2% is of

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small money that is actually not true

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earlier if you have been paying let us

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say the contract size is 10 lakh 10% is

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a margin money so that means you will be

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paying 1 lakh as a margin money now

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the extra margin will be 2% of the

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contract value that means it'll be about

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20,000 right so earlier if you're paying

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one lakh now you'll be paying 1.2 lakh

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rupees so that will potentially reduce

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the uh return on

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investment for the people who are doing

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expir day trade now those exper day

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Traders are in a big blow now because as

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I told you uh some people every day they

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do expiry then then third rule from the

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SE says exchanges are allowed to keep

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only one weekly expiry per exchange so

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which means now from Monday to Friday

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they cannot do five different expiries

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but however they can do two different

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expiries if I'm not wrong okay if my

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guess is right uh NC will retain Bank

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Nifty for weekly

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expiry they will not keep Nifty because

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when they started the weekly expiry they

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started with bank Nifty even now the

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most traded contract in the world is a

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bank Nifty so therefore they will not

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like to uh retain Nifty they will like

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to retain Bank Nifty so there will be

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weekly exper on Wednesday that is for

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NC but

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BC as a competition they will like to

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keep

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bankex which is on Monday so instead of

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five day expiry now you have only 2 day

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expiry but even for those two day expiry

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also these people have to pay 2%

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additional margin

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money okay so that will be roughly about

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20% increase in the margin money all

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right so this is the second one 2% extra

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margin

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money again for buyers they don't pay

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any margin money so that's not going to

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affect now I'm just giving an example

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there is no pressure for buyers so the

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status quo is maintained but now the

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sellers have to pay more margin money so

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and the seller has to pay more margin

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money he will expect more return then

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only his return on investment will

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match or some people may be out so this

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will create uh demand Supply

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mismatch so therefore I expect option

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premium to go slightly higher again that

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will be a disadvantage to the option

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buyers right see I'm just giving an

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example earlier I was paying one lakh

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margin money okay I'm ready to sell

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option for 1,000 rupees so that I get 1%

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return but now margin money is not 1

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lakh it's 1.2

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lakh then either I sell for 1,000

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compromise my return on investment maybe

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0

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8% or I get out of the market or I

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insist I will sell only for 1,200 rupees

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premium right so in that case you know

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if the premium goes to 1,200 the buyers

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have to pay more

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premium so once again so this may have a

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little impact on option sellers but the

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major loss will be only for the option

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buyers and this is my guess we have to

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wait and see so I think option premiums

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will go slightly higher to compensate

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this

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20% at this point of time I must tell

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you when I started selling you know uh

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you know how much margin money I used to

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pay for trading one lot of nifty uh I

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still remember it's 3,000 rupees all

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right so 3,000 rupees for one lot now

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you have to pay not less than one lakh

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rupees the third point we have already

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discussed there is going to be only one

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weekly expiry per exchange and also we

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have discussed uh the NSC is likely to

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keep Bank bank Nifty and then uh BSC is

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likely to keep Bank

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X

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now this is actually good actually I can

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tell

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you this may be bad for the people who

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are doing who have the habit of doing

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everyday

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expiry right their margin money

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increases then in of five different

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expiries they have only two different

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expir

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but people like me we don't do

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intraday right so we always do

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positional trade now what happens in my

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case okay I just take a view and like

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I'm just thinking I'm just giving an

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example uh let us say on Thursday for

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the next Wednesday Bank Nifty expiry I

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sell a call option and put option I

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think you know Market may not go above

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this and Market may not go below this I

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go and sell call and put let us say on

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Friday the market you know uh moves

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violently okay so what normally people

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do they sell call option they sell put

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option let us say Market goes higher

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they will bring the put on the higher

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side okay they will roll up the PS or

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roll down the calls if the market goes

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but generally I do not uh invest all my

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Capital I will have a lot of extra

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Capital available so when I sell both

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call and P the next day Market move

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violently you know uh I either I sell

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additional puts or additional calls okay

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to control the Delta so that additional

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one I prefer to do in bankx because you

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know that will expire very fast time

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value will go

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so my workshop participants know this

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what we call it as a reference rate so

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the base trade I take in Bank Nifty

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reference trate I trade in bankx

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okay so that will not be getting

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Disturbed so positional Traders nothing

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to worry the only thing is even the

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positional Trader on the day of expiry

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he has to allocate 2% extra margin money

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so other than that so this is not uh

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going to affect the positional Traders

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but intraday option sellers will be in

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trouble because they have to pay more

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margin money they have only two less

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trade exper trade

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on the other side for option buyers as I

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told you uh the premiums May tend to

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increase only on expiry day because this

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additional margin money we are talking

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it's only on expiry day for not for

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other days so other days you know it's

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okay but actually this step is needed

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because you know even the option buyers

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also know what they famously call you

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know zero or zero you know they always

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buy options on an experience every day

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you know they buy for 10 Rupees they

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expect it to go 100 rupees this and that

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you know as per a c study you know if

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are taking Bank Nifty for one whole week

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you know 65% of the volume happens on

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the expiry date right so this is the

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kind of gambling that is happening so

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that is actually uh not good for option

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buyers so we have discussed contract

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size increase we have discussed 2% extra

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margin money for expiry day we have also

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discussed only one weekly expiry per

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week so in all three cases I will tell

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you uniformly option buyers will be at

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disadvantage okay some option sellers

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especially intraday sellers will be at a

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disadvantage other than that there is

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nothing going to be very big change in

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the market

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dynamics now all these three new rules

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coming with effect from November

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20 and especially many of my workshop

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participants will be having position in

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December okay

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now uh I'm just giving an example okay

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now let us say you sold two lots of call

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option two lots of call option will be

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50 quantity November 20 exchanges may

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change the lot

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size let us say the lot size changes to

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75 so that means after that you cannot

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trade the 50 quantity are holding you

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want to square it off also you cannot

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Square it off that will be treated

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something like what they call it as odd

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lot so before November 20 you have to

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look at your portfolio so you have to

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make sure that whatever things you have

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is a multiple of the contract SI your

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contract size may be uh 75 or contract

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SI may be 60

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right if the contract size becomes 75

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then it's okay you just do one more a

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lot and then make it three the contract

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size BEC 60 that's going to be difficult

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you have a 50 the contract size is 60

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you cannot do anything so unless you

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have to uh scale it up you know like you

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have to see for 50 and 60 you have to

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take the LCM so that's a 300 so like you

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have to sell additional 250 quantity so

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that you will have a 300 quantity uh so

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means right now 300 quantity maybe 12

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Lots after the Lots change to 60 it will

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become five Lots so if you end up with

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Odd Lot you cannot buy or sell so that

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has to go for natural expir so that is

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what you have to be very

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careful now there are three more uh

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changes one is upfront collection of

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option premium from the buyers that's

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from February 1

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2025 uh that's not a big change because

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you know no broker will allow you to buy

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the option if you don't have the cash in

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your

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account however you know exchange does

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not insist uh collection of uppr Premium

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from the buyers okay they block it from

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the uh broker coll letter so therefore

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either broker they themselves buy the

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option or their close friends they give

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permission for them to buy options uh

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that may be going on but that will be

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stopped so otherwise for a common man

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like you and me there's no

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change then the next one intraday

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position limits monitoring from April 1

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2025 I really don't understand what is

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what is the meaning of this as an

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exchange they have to keep monitoring

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everything right at least if it is a

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stock you know when 95% of the position

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limit is crossed so they have to stop

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the trading okay but there is no such

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thing in index so maybe you know they're

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just giving a caution you know so they

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have to monitor so they monitor or not

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who bothers so that's also going to be

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no

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change then the next one is a calendar

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spread

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benefit and there are so many strategies

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in stock market so calendar spread is

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one strategy but generally uh you know

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Common People they don't do uh calendar

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sprs okay uh no whenever I go to the

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workshop I meet the people ask them how

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many of you do calendar spread it is

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less than 1% of the people who do the

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calendar spread and then that calendar

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spread benefit will be given so that

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benefit will not be given only when one

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leg is expiring on that particular day

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so therefore that is also not going to

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so all these three things you know which

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is effective from uh

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2025 there are very minor changes so the

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major changes are contract SI increased

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to 15 lakhs and 2% extra margin money

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and only one weekly expiry okay so uh

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basically know I can put it this way

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professional option sellers are not

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affected and there's a too much of a

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gambling mentality you know everyday

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exper everyday trade you know

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so I would say they're also gamblers and

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then plus option buyers my argument is

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always that are Camas and so therefore

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you know so this new SE rules might be

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affecting a little bit for the gamers

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but there is no um change or there may

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be a very very marginal change for a

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professional option wrers so that is my

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view so let us see what is going to

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happen in the next few months and it's

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going to be interesting to see the

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changes hope you enjoyed watching this

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video thank you for watching

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