Who makes the ALL TIME Man Utd x Liverpool combined XI? π | Saturday Social
Summary
TLDRIn a lively debate, football enthusiasts discussed the greatest combined Man United and Liverpool team from the Premier League era. Notable players like Peter Schmeichel, Allison Becker, Virgil van Dijk, and Mohamed Salah were highlighted for their exceptional contributions. The conversation touched on the impact of these players on their respective teams and the league, with a special emphasis on the evolution of their roles and the tactical systems they thrived in.
Takeaways
- π₯ The debate on the greatest combined Man United and Liverpool goalkeeper in Premier League history revolves around Peter Schmeichel and Alisson Becker, with Schmeichel's influence in the early years of Sir Alex Ferguson and Alisson's statistical excellence being highlighted.
- π‘οΈ In the right back position, there's a strong argument for Trent Alexander-Arnold's creativity and attacking prowess, despite Gary Neville's significant contributions and longevity at Manchester United.
- π₯ The center back pairing is unanimously agreed upon as Rio Ferdinand and Virgil van Dijk, both recognized for their technical ability and reading of the game, representing different eras of the Premier League.
- β½οΈ The left back position sparks a disagreement, with Patrice Evra's defensive qualities and leadership being weighed against Andy Robertson's attacking numbers and influence on the modern game.
- π The midfield three of Steven Gerrard, Roy Keane, and Paul Scholes is largely agreed upon, with Gerrard's all-around abilities, Keane's defensive skills, and Scholes' ball-playing and control being praised.
- πββοΈ The forward line sees Wayne Rooney and Mohamed Salah as undisputed picks, with a debate on the third spot between Sadio Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo, highlighting their goal scoring, adaptability, and overall impact.
- π€ The exercise is not solely about determining the final 11, but also about appreciating and discussing the great players and their contributions to the Premier League era.
- π Alisson Becker's statistical performance, including preventing a high amount of expected goals (XG), is emphasized as a key factor in Liverpool's recent success.
- π The conversation underlines the importance of considering both individual talent and the system in which players perform, as well as the evolution of playing styles over time.
- π The script acknowledges the achievements and legacy of players like Dennis Irwin and Michael Carrick, who, despite not being center-stage in the debate, have made significant contributions to their respective clubs.
- π The script serves as a reminder that player evaluations can be subjective and are influenced by factors such as era, playing style, and personal bias.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the discussion in the transcript?
-The main topic of the discussion is the selection of the greatest combined Manchester United and Liverpool team in Premier League history, based on player positions.
Which goalkeeper was argued as the greatest for the combined Man United and Liverpool team?
-Peter Schmeichel was argued as one of the greatest goalkeepers for the combined team due to his massive influence, style of play, and the number of Premier League titles he won with Manchester United.
What is the main argument for Allison Becker as the top goalkeeper for the combined team?
-The main argument for Allison Becker is his statistical performance, such as preventing expected goals (XG), and his crucial role in Liverpool's success, including winning multiple cups and trophies.
What was the counterargument made for Peter Schmeichel against Allison Becker?
-The counterargument for Peter Schmeichel was his difficulty to replace, as evidenced by the struggle Sir Alex Ferguson had in finding a suitable replacement, and Schmeichel's significant contributions and character in the dressing room during his time at Manchester United.
Which right back was chosen for the combined team and why?
-Trent Alexander-Arnold was chosen for the combined team due to his technical ability, creativity, and being a part of one of the best teams in the world, despite the argument initially being made for Gary Neville.
What are the main attributes of Rio Ferdinand that make him a top choice for the combined team's center back?
-Rio Ferdinand is considered a top choice due to his era-defining play, technical ability, reading of the game, and being an absolute giant for his team during his time.
Why was Virgil van Dijk paired with Rio Ferdinand for the center back position?
-Virgil van Dijk was paired with Rio Ferdinand because both possess great technical ability and reading of the game, and they represent defining center backs for their respective eras in the Premier League.
Which left back was chosen for the combined team and what was the main argument for this choice?
-Patrice Evra was chosen for the combined team, with the main argument being his defensive numbers and leadership qualities, as well as his adaptability to different systems.
What was the disagreement on the left back position and which player was argued for?
-The disagreement on the left back position was between Patrice Evra and Andy Robertson. Andy Robertson was argued for due to his attacking numbers and influence on the modern game as a left back.
Which three players were agreed upon for the midfield in the combined team?
-The three players agreed upon for the midfield in the combined team were Steven Gerrard, Roy Keane, and Paul Scholes, due to their significant contributions and influence in the Premier League era.
What was the main point of contention for the forward selection in the combined team?
-The main point of contention for the forward selection was between Sadio Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo, with arguments focusing on their respective contributions, adaptability, and impact on their teams and the Premier League as a whole.
Outlines
π Debating the Greatest Keepers: Schmeichel vs. Alisson
The paragraph discusses a debate between two goalkeepers, Peter Schmeichel of Manchester United and Alisson Becker of Liverpool. Schmeichel is praised for his commanding presence and impact during the early years of Sir Alex Ferguson's era at United, winning 11 major trophies. In contrast, Alisson's statistical excellence is highlighted, with his significant contribution to Liverpool's recent successes, including numerous cups and the Premier League title. The discussion also touches on the longevity and adaptability of both goalkeepers, with Schmeichel's influence in the past and Alisson's ongoing contributions to the current Liverpool team.
π₯ Comparing Legendary and Modern Right Backs: Neville vs. Alexander-Arnold
This section of the script compares two right backs, Gary Neville of Manchester United and Trent Alexander-Arnold of Liverpool. Neville's longevity and role as Club Captain at United are discussed, along with his overall contribution to the team. On the other hand, Alexander-Arnold's creativity and technical ability as a modern right back are praised, with his significant number of assists at a young age. The conversation acknowledges both players' impact on their respective teams, with a nod to the changing expectations and roles of right backs over time.
π Evaluating Center Backs: Ferdinand and Van Dijk
The paragraph focuses on the comparison between Rio Ferdinand of Manchester United and Virgil van Dijk of Liverpool. Both players are considered defining center backs of their respective eras, with Ferdinand's era-defining presence and Van Dijk's adaptability and technical ability highlighted. The discussion also touches on the hypothetical scenario of each player in the other's era, with the consensus that both would have been successful. The paragraph emphasizes the impact of both players on their teams and the Premier League as a whole.
πββοΈ Disagreement on Left Backs: Evra vs. Robertson
This part of the script presents a debate between Patrice Evra and Andy Robertson as the best left back in the Premier League era. Evra's leadership and defensive contributions are contrasted with Robertson's attacking prowess and influence on modern full-backs. The conversation acknowledges Evra's role in defining the left back position during his time, while also recognizing Robertson's impact on the current generation of left backs. The debate highlights the different styles and systems each player was part of and their respective legacies.
π Midfield Mastery: Gerrard, Keane, and Scholes
The paragraph delves into the midfield maestros of the Premier League, focusing on Steven Gerrard, Roy Keane, and Paul Scholes. Gerrard is lauded as a two-way midfielder with adaptability and a complete game, while Keane's defensive prowess and influence are discussed. Scholes is recognized for his deep-lying playmaker role and his pure footballing ability. The conversation also briefly mentions other notable midfielders like Michael Carrick and highlights the importance of these players in defining the Premier League's midfield landscape.
πββοΈ Front Three Favourites: Rooney, Salah, and Ronaldo
The final part of the script debates the front three attackers, focusing on Wayne Rooney, Mohamed Salah, and Cristiano Ronaldo. Rooney's all-around game, longevity, and silverware are praised, while Salah's current form and impact on the Premier League are highlighted. Ronaldo's transformative career, his two-time Premier League Player of the Year award, and his influence as a goalscoring winger are discussed. The conversation also touches on the underrated nature of some players and the evolving roles of attackers in the Premier League.
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Keywords
π‘Premier League
π‘Goalkeeper
π‘Defensive Style
π‘Midfield
π‘Winger
π‘Striker
π‘Trophy
π‘Longevity
π‘System
π‘Leadership
π‘Creativity
Highlights
The discussion revolves around creating a combined Man United and Liverpool team for the Premier League era.
Peter Schmeichel is considered one of the greatest goalkeepers in Premier League history due to his influence and style of play.
Allison Becker is praised for his statistical performance and contribution to Liverpool's success.
The argument that Schmeichel's impact at Man United was short but very successful is made, with 11 major trophies won.
Trent Alexander-Arnold's creativity and attacking force as a right back are highlighted.
Gary Neville's longevity and importance at Man United are discussed, with his role as Club Captain being emphasized.
The comparison between Neville and Alexander-Arnold showcases the evolution of the right back role in the Premier League.
Rio Ferdinand and Virgil van Dijk are recognized as defining center backs for their respective Premier League eras.
Patrice Evra and Andy Robertson are compared, with Evra's leadership and defensive abilities being noted.
Robertson's role in the current Liverpool system and his influence as a modern fullback are discussed.
The midfield trio of Steven Gerrard, Roy Keane, and Paul Scholes is agreed upon as exceptional Premier League midfielders.
Gerrard is lauded as the greatest two-way midfielder and for his adaptability in the Premier League.
Scholes is recognized for his deep play and control in the midfield, contributing to the Premier League's style of play.
The front three of Wayne Rooney, Mohamed Salah, and Cristiano Ronaldo is acknowledged as a formidable line-up.
Ronaldo's transformative impact on the Premier League and his evolution as a player are discussed.
Salah's current form and his place among the greatest Premier League players are highlighted.
The debate concludes with a focus on the importance of discussing and recognizing great players in the Premier League.
Transcripts
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Liverpool fan the plan yeah very very
simple we've kind of mixed up our usual
combined 11 today we're going to be
doing one from the Premier League era so
combined Man United and Liverpool 11 for
the Premier League era we couldn't do it
this season could we because it would
have been 11 players been 11 Liverpool
players so we've mixed it up some big
names in here big emissions potentially
yeah as always usual rules apply reveal
the name and then Joe and I will decide
based on the best argument brought
forward so goal who do you have as the
greatest man United Liverpool combined
Keeper in premier league history I'll
let you go first for this one yeah I've
gotone with potentially the greatest
goalkeeper in premier league history
period Peter schmeichel I think he's
someone who was such a massive force in
the Premier League kind of brought in a
new style of goalkeeper in terms of just
making yourself absolutely massive and
when you look at the guy I'm sure who
Lawrence has gone for he is almost in
that style of goalkeeper of just
physically imposing goalkeepers who just
make it scary for opposition attackers
to even attack you and you look at the
number of Premier League titles that had
the influence that he had and honestly
not that long of a time at United but it
was it was short but sweet with United
so for me I think the influence he had
in those early years of Sir Alex
Ferguson still won 11 major trophies
with man united didn't he so huge huge
volume a lot of big trophies with
Manchester United I think you're right
he probably is one of the greatest
Premier League goalkeepers of all time
second to this guy you think Allison's
the greatest PR I think statistically
you can prove it in terms of XG faced in
terms of expected XG all these kind of
things Allison massively outperforms
these things and Liverpool have got
Allison obviously Kell her now but
predominantly Allison to thank for a lot
of the cups trophies all the things that
they've won because frankly he is a huge
part of the style that they play Young
klopp needed someone like this we
couldn't have done it with another
goalkeeper and I think arguably down the
year manchest United have had a lot of
great goalkeepers this guy defines that
position out Liverpool to
give give you that St by the way law is
what 21.5 XG prevented in Premier League
career now that's the best record of any
Premier League goalkeeper since
Allison's Premier League debut just to
put that into perspective can I give a
quick give a counter argument when you
talk about doing it with him or doing it
without him I think the biggest
compliment to pet Peter schmeichel is
how difficult Sir Alex Ferguson found it
replacing him I mean you had the likes
of taibe you had the likes of Tim Howard
you had the likes of Roy Carroll only
until he found an aging Edwin V derar in
around what 2006 2005 was he able to
replace what a massive not even just
player but character this guy was to the
dressing room and all I'd say is and i'
be I just urge a little Caution on your
guys part when judging this is a lot of
the people we're putting up for
Manchester United here have ended their
career they've actually had that that
time to do that yeah the longevity in
there I I mean if we're discussing him
versus him and he's only halfway through
his career imagine what's going to be
like what do you think he'll be like
post clop you think he'll still be able
to maintain the level and be at that uh
yeah because I think he's obviously
there's high quality goalkeeper in there
I think a huge amount of credit I want
to say goes to the coaching staff at
Liverpool I think they've made him into
the goalkeeper of the years but they saw
that potential in the first place I
think any other team in in all of Europe
actually would take Allison over any
other goalkeeper five major trophies of
Liverpool we've biged Allison up a lot
got to give it context though schichel
11 major trophies of man united
including five Premier League titles in
Seven Seasons 112 clean sheets do we
Edge can I
just one thing one thing about that um
there are still two asterisks in terms
of Premier League titles there that we
we may see concluded at some point
and and on top of that you also see the
difference in defensive Style is with a
massively High Line at Liverpool and
that was a much deeper defense there
this guy and think could have done it in
a club team I I think High Line I'm not
saying that I don't think he could have
done it but I'm saying he's doing it and
the fact that we have a theory that he
could have done it the fact that he is
doing it and he's playing with probably
the highest line in the Premier League
outside of maybe Man City or another
dominant side is just Testament to the
fact that he can also play football oh
Michael yeah two quality Keepers I think
schichel just edged I think you guys
have made a massive mistake let's move
on let's think
you think yeah let not you think's go to
the right back now I think we maybe have
a slight confusion with magnets here I
don't know if we actually have have we
made an error on the maget I don't know
if you made an error I do you want to
turn should we turn around at the same
time yeah go ahead one two
three Gary Neville your go the Liverpool
Fan's going with Gary Neville man united
player and the man united fan is going
with the Liverpool player yeah I am I
like that should I give my argument
first or you want to go is it a mistake
firstly your magnet uh I do think it's a
mistake but so I gave an initial list
and Gary Neville was on that initial
list again down to longevity and
obviously he's on Sky Sports and you can
see him probably this weekend right I
think when it comes to Neville he's
serly disrespected yeah I totally agree
he had such longevity at Manchester
United I think the only argument the
reason I would put Trent on it would be
the technical ability the other things
that he does have and you can make an
argument that in terms of the player
that he is you know Trent merits it I
still think that what Gary Neville
achieved the fact he was Club Captain
which obviously we think Trent could be
at Liverpool but fact he was Club
Captain the fact that he had that
massive like era that he he defined that
Era 16 major trophies 400 Premier League
appearances I think by the time that
Trent finishes his career there'll be an
equivalency but I think it's it's
disrespectful to probably at this point
one of the greatest you know I sometimes
think Gary puts himself down too much
watch him on show I think come on Gary
you are unbelievable I mean Gary Neville
I completely agree with you I think it's
down to his own humble personality that
sometimes he does downplay himself
I wouldn't really have a qual about this
but I just think this guy right here has
revolutionized the position as a right
back especially in the Premier League
but I think you just look in general at
the greatest right backs of all time no
one has been as creative an attacking
force from right back he is the creative
force of one of the best teams in the
world from right back I just think the
numbers are unparalleled at such a young
age as well too and the assist 58
assists he go to be fair though which is
incredible underrated assist sister and
played behind some of the greatest right
wings of all time had that iconic
relation we're talking about a guy put
out the role of the right then was very
different to a role of a right back now
expected to go forward and everything
we're talking in adverts so you know
okay but we're talking about possibly
the greatest passer in the Premier
League like this is the level that we're
talking about with Tren Alexander Arnold
so I I can never disrespect Gary Neville
what he's done in that team staying in
it as long as he did as well too cannot
be underestimated but I just think this
is a special like Transcendent player in
my opinion can I shock you I'm willing
to concede you're right no you're
totally right I'm willing to concede
that one I think Trent's fair enough cuz
otherwise if we just do retired players
we're going to be here with just the man
united 11
problem second most assist by a defender
in premier league history behind Andy
Robertson right next up center backs
let's go for your pairings I see who you
got your pairings there's any yeah we
all agree on both Rio ferand I mean Rio
is he's the era the Premier League
defining Center back for me best center
back in premier league history for you
yes I'm okay equal with one other guy
okay he he's up there for me definitely
up there and who who else have you gone
with well I've gone with Virgil the pet
together dude we yeah we were so similar
on that then I mean these two are the
two that Define the Premier League eras
the modern era and R Ferdinand back then
I think both of them could have swapped
and they'd have had similar careers I
think it's just the fact that they
possess such great technical ability
such great reading of the game both of
them were
absolute Giants for their teams who who
was the better who is the better back
ask the same go on then I have to go
with my guy man real Rio is my guy so
I'll go with Rio F then this guy yeah
this guy again plays in a super high
line has been super adaptable I think
Rio possesses a lot I would love to have
seen Rio in this era if that makes sense
but the fact he's playing in this era
means that one thing I will say about
Rio though is that we often hear a lot
of times people who believe the older
generation of center backs would
struggle on today's high line I don't
think he would struggle to adapt to
today's game because of fall playing
ability his his graceful I think he
would be one of the few center backs
that in today's game excels sort of set
the mold didn't he as well for that he
was one of the first center backs that
was a ball playing Center back that you
could imagine playing which which now
you see there's so many ball playing
center backs but he I feel like he was
like a Trailblazer in that in a similar
way with Virgil Van djk like you see
Defenders now doing Virgil Van djk moves
the way they cut the ball out the air
you see quono these agree where they sit
off the there was an incident the other
week with quono wasn't there like
basically mirroring exactly V van mov
sck on any just any other shouts were
close yapan
maybe didn't do it for long enough for
me viit was the bside to what Ferdinand
was and I think you can't make an
argument for vidit over Virgil vany okay
yeah happy that yeah left back left back
left back I think this is disagreement I
went for
patri who do you want to hear from first
I think let's go to you l so I
originally also put Patrice ever in the
list but we agreed on so many things
that I thought okay let's let's mix this
up a little bit that's my argument
done yeah um the the thing with ever is
again I think it was a slightly
different system back then so playing as
left back was a little bit different to
the way that Andy Robertson plays if you
compare their attacking numbers Andy
Robertson completely eclipses Patrice
Evra but if you compare defensive
numbers then they are I'd say broadly
you could compare the two I just think
patri ever Define that eror every left
back looks at Andy Robertson and goes
what does Andy Roberts do in this era
every Young Center back that you every
young left back that you've spoken to
haven't it yes I've literally seen
interviews on Sky Sports done by you
guys
where where they say I can't remember
where you say who do you watch and they
go I watch tape of Andy Robertson to
Define what I do at left back thank you
for watching our interviews by the way
first you know I love you Robertson is
is a brilliant left back I would say top
three in in premier league history but
the difference between Trent and
Robertson for me where I call Trent a
Transcendent footballer I think
Robertson my opinion is a bit more a
byproduct of the club system like I
think the the the manner in which the
fullbacks go blazing forward and putting
in crosses I just think this guy has a
bit more guile and a bit more creativity
to him where Robertson is really get it
down to the end line and just blast it
into the box and I do think that in
terms of who's an actual better
footballer and who has more to their
game I do think it was Patrice everan
and I think as well too the leadership
that he displayed he ended up being the
captain because vidit and Rio were out
so many times he was he was really
captaining the sides at their Peak so I
would go for p 37 tough this one cuz Rob
I think he's almost like I know you say
he's a product of the system but I think
he is almost like a pace Setter within
that Klo side the amount of times I've
seen the Press like triggered by
Robertson from left back silent leader
as well and I think if he was English
we'd only have one choice for left back
for this
Euros well there's not too much
competition let's be real I mean that's
your own club that's got the other
person in competition play five games a
season man yeah so do most of the left
back I'm prob too bias on this one do we
let the fact that we've given we've
given yourself on La and you actually
did originally pick Patrice Evra in your
original list I think that's an
interesting shout that I'd be willing to
trade and put Allison in goal if you put
your original
list
that because I'm being so nice to other
people okay I understand yeah you're
right by Way Dennis Irwin didn't even
mention Dennis Irwin more I think more
tropies than both of them like long long
stay in that in that man
united more like a center back playing
at man greater penalties I'll I'll put
it up to Youth played both fullbacks
Midfield three should we go to Midfield
three I feel like we're going to agree
from here on out am I wrong I think
these three should be I think these
three in Midfield at least should be set
in stun wow do you want to go first then
with my three yeah I've gone with Steven
jarard Roy Keenan posals oh yeah yeah I
think I've also now on easy tap out of
the three L which one has the greatest
was the greatest Premier League player
uh in terms of achievements or in terms
of actual play player that guy Stevie
Stevie G was is the greatest two-way
Premier League midfielder of all time
and I don't think it's I I don't think
there's anyone else that comes close
people can make an argument for Kevin De
bruyne attacking wise being a better
player people can make a better
defensive argument for maybe Roy Kean or
someone like that this guy did
everything and even played right wing
for a whole season for Liverpool because
he was so adaptable this guy defines
what it is to be a premier league player
in this era and would be amazing now le
here's your number one it's a good show
I mean I have to go for Paul skulls man
I mean the guy is
just in the Premier League who defines a
premier league midfielder I agree it's
Steven jar but who defines just what it
means to be a ball playing midfielder
somebody who's capable of controlling
games from Deep someone who's capable of
of drifting into the number 10 positions
and getting goals someone who's more of
a pure footballer if you want to call it
that that was Paul schols for me and I
think you look at the way that the top
managers around the world the top
players from around the world gloss over
this guy it's not a coincidence well
Midfield three by the way can we just sh
a few of Midfield options I suppose cuz
you're playing a 43 but you shabby
Alonzo I was going to say giggsy beex
beex Beck was definitely a consideration
for me but it was just when he came up
against Gerard the amount of Seasons
that Geral played in the league all
these kind of things we we were asked to
make a 433 yeah and we we saw gigs
playing yeah yeah top player I think
Michael Carrick was was very underated
for United was close me yeah Carrick did
so much for that United
Team really really brilliant jabby
Alonzo by the way I think jabby Alonzo's
overall career yes
yeah they've done well with the AUG I
like
it again this front three should be
clearcut n there's disagreement I think
you've got disagreement here well then
that's that's wrong so should we go with
the two that the two that nailed on one
from each Club yeah yeah those two I
have as well yeah okay that's not
unreasonable Rooney that would be that
is a team is scary yeah staggering
against I I think look Salah is probably
the outstanding player in the Premier
League at the moment and I think Rooney
bartier HRI is in those conversations
for greatest Premier League player of
all time and only player I think to be
in what you wouldn't have salary in
those conversations too uh I mean I
think at the rate he's going he will
probably retire in those conversations I
think if you want to look at everything
going on silverware no matter whether
you like it or not will end up kind of
playing a part in those conversations
but I think that's the thing with with
Rooney he has everything he has the
silverware he has the stats he passes
the ey test he has the longevity he is
everything that Premier League was at
the time he also could have done like
that or that yeah he could have also
played it
right he played on the even at times he
played on the wing like two team just
yeah's nailed on nailed on salah's
nailed on here's the disagreement okay
disag I'm surprised there's a
disagreement I'm not all right go on who
have you gone for let's reveal let's
reveal sad man and Cristiano Ronaldo L
you first serly disrespected serly
underrated uh longev it in the league
played all the way along the front line
right wi left wing C Center forward
basically a striker false n for us at
times uh I think he's someone that for
some strange reason because he played on
the opposite Wing to sell people just
underrate him he was a huge part of jgen
klopp system if not the biggest part of
triggering presses the effort all those
different things he defined that era and
the way that they played and actually if
you look at the com like the comparison
in terms of stats these two actually
really close to each other and even in
terms of the way that they play I think
Ronaldo definitely fantastic player but
this guy's got twice as many passes
twice as many other goal involvements
for other players all these kind of
things there's so many different things
that he does out there on the field that
I think we think Ronaldo does but again
if you want to talk about system and the
way the system played this guy defined
as a player Cristiano I think again
though we said jabbi Alonzo because
jabbi Alonzo went on to have an even
better career after that in the
absolutely this guy would have won the
Bal Andor but I think I I'll be honest I
I think where he was from had a massive
impact on the way that other people in
Europe saw him and you know let's be
real about this some people just don't
give a lot of African players in the
Premier League their Jews and we need to
no look no doubt about it I completely
agree but Cristiano Ronaldo I think
comparing him to shavei Alonzo in terms
of the whole thing of like oh did he do
his best in the Premier League no he was
better at Real Madrid but this was still
a two-time premier league Player of the
Year back-to-back Seasons before Salah
and Holland stepped in the league had
the what the the the greatest single
goal scoring season in premier league
history from the wing basically had two
eras in the Premier League as well too
one where he was this all- action flashy
Winger who could destroy any fullback
you can imagine and transforming himself
into the ultimate goalscoring Winger
probably being the prototype for guys
like manate to even exist right what was
the other era what you the the the first
one where he was basically this flashy
all- action Winger basically that was a
shortlived I okay I can't say that's an
era but yeah no like I for him he had
two separate like careers if you want to
call it that but I look I mean the goals
the excitement the trophies the the the
individual Awards one of what only two
premier league players ever to win the
Bal onor I think this is a
straightforward one I think um it's no
doubt yeah I love s man I respect the
argument I think you forgotten how good
he was in the Prem man people also
forget people also forget what this kind
of exercise is and I feel like this
exercise is not actually about the final
11 but is actually just about having a
discussion of who the great players are
exploring that and this is why he's just
never involved in these conversations
and you know I'm not saying he's a
better player than Cristiano Ronaldo
there's an obvious choice there but sad
Oman is like as you said there's a
prototype there there's a prototype
there for other modern Wingers yeah this
guy just doesn't get the respected
deserves and I don't know why there work
as well too is unparalleled all of well
there it's it's a good shout but there
is confirmation of the combined Man
United Liverpool Premier League era both
GIC on the left wing the left wing let's
not you think home anyway if there's any
disagreement that let us know what you
think
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