Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia 04/02/2024
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses the potential for intervention in the yen's value, with Japan's finance ministers expressing concern over excessive currency moves. It also covers the RBA's stance on future interest rate changes, emphasizing uncertainty and a focus on inflation targets. Additionally, the script highlights Tesla's Q1 delivery results, expected to show the first sales decline in four years due to a slowdown in the EV market and competitive pressures in China. The discussion also touches on the semiconductor industry, with Japan committing more funds to catch up in manufacturing capabilities.
Takeaways
- 📉 Asian markets are counting down to major market opens with a focus on central bank reactions to incoming data and the ongoing divergence between the Fed and the BOJ.
- 💡 The Bank of Japan faces challenges due to the stronger yen following stronger than expected US factory data, impacting the bank's policies.
- 🗣️ RBA's Chris Kent emphasizes uncertainty regarding future moves on interest rates in Australia, highlighting the unpredictable path of inflation and monetary policy.
- 📈 Despite profit-taking from outperformers, the Nikkei opens higher with attention on chip stocks following news of potential government investment.
- 🇯🇵 The Japanese government's further $3.9 billion investment in domestic chip manufacturing aims to uplift the industry and compete globally.
- 🇰🇷 Korean stocks, especially tech-related chip names, may react to the yen's movements and potential intervention measures.
- 💬 Market strategists discuss the potential execution of yen intervention, questioning the effectiveness and the timing of such actions.
- 📊 US Treasury yields rise across the curve following stronger ISM factory data, impacting expectations for Fed rate cuts.
- 🇦🇺 Australian markets see modest gains with Treasury Wine Estate performing well after China's trade decision, and iron ore prices recovering.
- 🚗 Tesla's Q1 delivery results may show the first sales decline in four years due to a slowdown in the EV market and impact of high interest rates.
Q & A
What is the main focus of the discussion in the transcript?
-The main focus of the discussion is the economic outlook for Asia, particularly in relation to central bank reactions, market movements, and the potential for intervention in currency markets, with a specific emphasis on the Japanese yen and its impact on equities and semiconductor industries.
What central bank reactions are being anticipated in the Asian markets?
-Market participants are looking ahead to central bank reactions, especially those of the Federal Reserve and the Bank of Japan, due to the divergence in their policies and the potential impact on currency values and market stability.
How is the Bank of Japan's policy affecting the yen?
-The Bank of Japan's policy divergence from the Federal Reserve is causing the yen to fluctuate, with the currency moving higher after stronger than expected factory gate data from the United States, leading to potential intervention by the Japanese authorities.
What is the current stance of the RBA on future interest rate moves?
-The Reserve Bank of Australia's Assistant Governor, Chris Kent, has not ruled out any future changes to the cash rate, emphasizing that the path is uncertain and dependent on economic conditions and data developments.
What is the significance of the Japanese government's investment in semiconductor manufacturing?
-The Japanese government's investment of $3.9 billion in semiconductor manufacturing, particularly in the venture capital firm Rapidus, signifies a strategic move to enhance Japan's competitiveness and catch up in the global semiconductor market, focusing on advanced technology and AI applications.
What is the potential impact of the yen's fluctuation on Japanese equities?
-The fluctuation of the yen can significantly affect Japanese equities, especially export-oriented companies, as a weaker yen makes Japanese goods more competitive internationally, while a stronger yen can impact profitability and exports.
What are the key factors influencing the semiconductor industry's performance in Asia?
-The semiconductor industry's performance in Asia is influenced by a combination of factors, including government investment, technological advancements, supply chain dynamics, and the competitive landscape, with a particular focus on the rise of hyperscalers and the adoption of semiconductors across various industries.
How is the situation in China's economy affecting global markets?
-China's economic situation, including its property sector challenges and growth targets, has implications for global markets, as it is a major export market for many countries, and changes in demand for commodities like iron ore can impact economies that are heavily reliant on such exports.
What is the current state of the US-China relations as it relates to trade?
-The US-China relations in terms of trade have seen some recent improvements, as evidenced by China removing its remaining trade strikes on Australian wine, which allows for a more favorable trading environment and investor reactions to such policy changes.
What are the expectations for Tesla's first quarter deliveries?
-Analysts are expecting Tesla's first quarter deliveries to show a decline for the first time in four years due to a slowdown in the EV market, the impact of elevated interest rates, and increased competition from local carmakers in China.
Outlines
🌐 Market Updates and Central Bank Reactions
The script begins with a focus on the Asian markets, particularly as they prepare for opening in light of new data releases. The discussion emphasizes the importance of central bank reactions, especially those of the Federal Reserve (Fed) and the Bank of Japan (BOJ), and their impact on market trends. There's mention of the yen's movement in relation to stronger-than-expected factory data from the United States and the ongoing divergence between the Fed and BOJ policies. The conversation also includes potential interventions at the 152 level for the yen, the highest level seen this year since mid-February. The Nikkei's performance is noted, along with investor profit-taking and a focus on chip stocks. The script also highlights the potential for government investment in domestic chip making, which could significantly uplift tech-related names.
📉 Yen Intervention and Market Strategies
This paragraph delves into the specifics of potential yen intervention, with questions about execution, levels, and impact. The discussion involves strategist Mike Bradford, who shares insights on Japanese authorities' tactics, suggesting they may allow the dollar-yen rate to rise further before intervening. The conversation also covers the possibility of successive intervention rounds and the market's anticipation of such moves. There's an analysis of the effectiveness of intervention, considering the cyclical nature of the currency problem and the challenges posed by a potentially less aggressive US interest rate cut outlook. The discussion concludes with a look at Korean stocks and the broader implications of yen intervention on equity markets.
📈 Market Expectations and Opportunities in APAC
The focus shifts to broader market expectations, with Hartmut Esau from UBS Wealth Management providing his views on the yen and the potential for modest weakening. Esau discusses the impact of interventions and the outlook for Japanese equities, particularly exporters, and suggests a shift towards domestic stocks and financials. The conversation also touches on opportunities in China, with a focus on capital measures, dividends, buybacks, and traditional sectors. The discussion highlights the importance of alpha in China's market and the potential for increased investment in semiconductors and software. Esau also addresses risks related to supply chains and the adoption of new technologies across industries.
📊 Economic Indicators and Policymakers' Challenges
This section discusses recent economic indicators, such as PMI numbers, and their implications for China's economy. The conversation includes insights from the Reserve Bank of Australia Assistant Governor Christopher Kent on monetary policy and the challenges posed by uncertainties in the global and domestic economic landscape. The discussion touches on the potential for interest rate changes, the impact of China's slowdown, and the importance of consumer confidence. The script also mentions the government's efforts to tackle debt issues and the need for structural reforms to boost consumption.
🚗 Tesla's Market Performance and EV Industry Trends
The conversation turns to Tesla, with expectations of a potential decline in sales for the first time in four years. The slowdown is attributed to a broader trend in the electric vehicle (EV) market and the impact of elevated interest rates. The discussion includes insights on price cuts by competitors, the competitive landscape in China, and the challenges faced by Tesla due to aggressive discounting by local carmakers. The script also notes Tesla's production adjustments in Shanghai and recent price increases in the Chinese market.
🥇 Kweichow Moutai's Financial Outlook and Market Strategy
The focus is on Kweichow Moutai's financial performance and market strategy. The company is expected to report robust sales and profit growth despite a challenging consumer sentiment environment. The discussion highlights the company's high gross and operating margins, its efforts to expand its consumer base, and its focus on direct-to-consumer sales. The script also mentions the company's product and channel development efforts, including collaborations with artists and the introduction of new products, as well as its use of apps and digital platforms to engage younger consumers.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Asia's major market opens
💡Central bank reaction
💡Yen
💡Monetary policy settings
💡Chip stocks
💡Currency intervention
💡Fiscal year
💡Equity rally
💡Semiconductor upturn
💡Supply chains
Highlights
Asia's major market opens are anticipated with focus on central bank reactions to new data.
The divergence between the Fed and the BOJ continues to impact the Bank of Japan.
The yen's value increased following stronger than expected factory gate data from the United States.
Chris Kent from the RBA mentions uncertainty regarding the future move of rates in Australia.
The Nikkei opens stronger, with particular interest in chip stocks following news of potential government investment.
Japanese authorities may intervene if the yen reaches the 152 level against the dollar.
Korean stocks, especially tech-related chip names, may react to the yen's performance.
Mike Bradford discusses the execution of yen intervention and its potential effectiveness.
Hartmut Esau from UBS Wealth Management shares his views on the yen and Japanese equities.
Esau highlights the importance of US interventions and the potential for broader dollar weakness.
Discussion on the impact of yen movements on Japanese exporters and the potential shift in focus to domestic stocks.
China's focus on capital measures and dividends buybacks presents interesting opportunities.
The semiconductor industry's cyclical nature is discussed, with a potential shift towards software investments.
Risks to the AC story are considered, particularly around supply chains and the adoption of semiconductors by various industries.
Chinese PMI numbers show some positive signs, suggesting that bad news may be priced in.
The ASX experiences modest gains with some stocks trading ex-dividend.
Treasury Wine performs well following China's removal of trade strikes on Australian wine.
Iron ore prices recover modestly, supporting the materials sector.
Energy sector performs well due to Brent crude prices finding support and rising tensions in the Middle East.
The RBA's Chris Kent speaks on Australia's monetary policy framework and the importance of responding to imbalances within the system.
Japanese chip makers are in focus as the government announces further subsidies for semiconductor ventures.
Tesla's first-quarter delivery results are anticipated, with some analysts expecting a sales decline.
Transcripts
This is DAYBREAK. Asia.
We're counting down to Asia's major market opens.
Well, we are really looking ahead to central bank reaction as we get more
data pull to percolate through. But also that divergence between the Fed
and the BOJ continuing to be a pain for the Bank of Japan.
They are definitely I mean, we saw the yen move higher after that, stronger
than expected factory gate data from the United States.
We'll be hearing from Chris Kent here as well from the RBA.
He's not ruling anything in or out when it comes to the future move of rates
here in Australia either. Yeah, he was asked to give one word to
describe monetary policy settings on the outlook and he said uncertain when he
was speaking upstairs a little bit earlier at Bloomberg offices here in
Sydney. But of course, uncertainty is also what
we're looking ahead to in terms of how the yen continues to play out and
whether intervention comes at that 152 level.
We are still under that point, but looking pretty close with the dollar at
its highest, pretty much its highest level that we've seen so far this year,
at least since about the middle of February.
The Nikkei 2 to 5 out of the gate stronger by about a quarter of 1%.
We did have the day, the first day of the fiscal year for Japan.
We are seeing investors, at least at the start of this week, doing a little bit
of profit taking up, particularly when it comes to the big outperformers,
including some of the industrial and autos names.
But we are seeing broad upside as the Nikkei comes online, watching in
particular some of those chip stocks. We had news of potential further
investment from the government for rapid assistance.
The homegrown chip maker looking to make those two nanometer chips and that would
be a significant uplift when it comes to some of those chip and I and tech
related names. The top picks also moderately higher at
this point. Dollar yen trading, as I said that one
5158 level 152 is potentially where we see actual intervention but of course
New year same old issues when it comes to that battle between a dollar yen,
Right. The same old currency problem
confronting both traders and the government.
And there will be some big questions as to how that intervention will play out
and how long it potentially can last for, given that we know that currency
intervention does not tend to be very long lasting, even if it is heavy
handed, But potentially this is another risk when it comes to Japanese equity
rally. Take a look at Korean stocks and this is
the set up here. We could potentially also see some of
those tech related chip related names in Korea reacting as well.
The cost is a little bit softer, but the Kodak index is at least just just in
positive territory. Let's get some more from MLive
strategist Mike Bradford, who joins us now.
So, Mark, lots of questions as to how this yen intervention will be executed.
Is 150 to the level? What will it look like?
And I guess most importantly, how much bang for their buck do they get in terms
of how impactful any move would be? Well, the Japanese authorities have been
quite adept in the past letting the market get into a position where they're
very long of the US dollar and then intervening afterwards.
So that would suggest that they will let dollar yen rise through 152, if that's
the path it's going to go ahead for. And then they will wait until they feel
the market is really overstretched and then they will do their intervention.
That's been their tactics in the past and that's been much more effective.
So they'll be looking for dollar and to actually rise a bit further before they
show their hand. And there may be more than one round
there. It's quite possible that they will use
successive rounds of intervention to actually come in and support the yen.
It was unlikely to be just one hit and that's the way that they've done it in
the past. So from the market's point of view, they
won't necessarily be looking for exactly 152.
They'll be thinking that it could even be closer to 153 or even higher.
But certainly the Ministry of Finance, the Bank of Japan approved before.
They're very good at taking the market off guard.
Yeah, Mark said the good at administering the medicine.
But how enduring is the medicine likely to be, especially if we keep getting
data out of the US that gives us upside surprises.
It certainly makes it a lot more difficult for Japan because of, as you
say, now that people are increasingly looking for fewer interest rate cuts in
the United States. They may only be that two interest rate
cuts get priced into the market for the rest of this year, which is obviously
positive for the US dollar, and it doesn't help the Japanese yen at all.
But the Japanese authorities have shown they can be coming in very big size,
they can be very persuasive. So they will be thinking they can move
dollar yen by at least 500 pips if it's 150, to knock it down to something like
147 or somewhere in that kind of zone. So they won't be looking for a small
move. They'll be looking for something
significant where they can really persuade the market they're on top of
the situation. But the timing of it will be crucial and
they'll be prepared to do it outside of Asia.
Now, as they don't mind intervening in New York or in London.
All right. Bloomberg Live strategist Mark Cranfield
there. And our next guest expects dollar yen to
weaken modestly this year. So let's bring in Hartmut Esau, the head
of APAC equities and credit at UBS Wealth Management.
So let's start with your views on the yen.
First off, can you define modest for us? And do you have a number in mind that
the Finance Ministry will be looking to defend?
On the former, certainly, let's say, towards here and maybe a bit beyond,
let's say, you know, at 144 level or thereabouts.
But we critically look really, as we just also heard, I would agree with
that. It really matters what happens in the
US, think in terms of interventions. We heard it a few times already in the
recent past and whether it can be really that effective is and it certainly helps
at the end on the margin if they do, but I think that's remains to be seen
whether we can have that effect. So yes, that the key is that we see
broader sort of sort of dollar weakness happening and only then we think
actually the end can sort of outperform a bit some of the other currencies.
And if and when it happens, what sort of impact do you expect to see on Japanese
equities, which have really had a tremendous run over the past few months?
Now, I would first and foremost expect some effect on the on the exporters
actually. So therefore it probably good if you
look at the exposure in Japan where we have sort of a neutral position to focus
a bit more on either value or in particular domestic stocks, financial
stocks in particular, I would mention I think these are the these are the
promising ones within Japan on the margin, probably export is a bit less
so. When you take a look at China, you say
that you're focusing on the alpha. What does that sort of translate to when
it comes to sifting through what does look like perhaps an emergence of
opportunities now? Now, what we're seeing in China is
quite, quite interesting. We see a couple of capital measures and
over the last couple of years that has actually sort of intensified.
Right. Also, I guess in the absence of a growth
like we used to see it. So that could be interesting
opportunities, dividends, buybacks. And we think also some of the more
traditional, especially in the short term, also some of the more traditional
sectors, they're interesting, including actually financials.
So this is probably an element where we
think the market will focus on when these companies do more of the capital
management. And
when you take a look at the broader sort of AI and chip related rally that we see
across the board, and we actually just had, you know, potential reporting of
more investment from the Japanese government into rapid US in in Japan.
How much further is there to go for this?
And what I guess is the next wave of opportunity when it comes to I
would think we're seeing currently probably still for for maybe short
number of months the semiconductor space very, very strong.
However, we need to remember that this is still a cyclical industry even now.
So we do expect and we're already starting or have started since since end
of last year, the upturn. So we're in an upturn arguably on the
semiconductor side. So what we think in terms of
where we could go next in Asia is that maybe towards the middle of the year or
certainly in the second half of the year, we already began to switch a bit
of the exposure. We still have a lot of semiconductor
exposure, but piece by piece sort of shifting it a little bit more into
slightly more late cyclical, I should say, exposure and especially also into
software. I think that is the prudent move for
now. Do you see any risks to the AC story,
particularly around supply chains? I would say it's only risk.
What we what we're currently witnessing is that the big investment, also the
demand for semiconductors, for that matter, comes mostly from what people
call the hyperscalers. So the important thing is that this this
broadens so that other industries are. Now, we just heard but governments as
well that they really also step in and then, you know, when the sort of the
appetite of the of the hyperscalers maybe flattens a little bit that we also
get other industries really significantly adopting.
I'm pretty sure that that will happen, but that there's maybe a risk if they
maybe time it differently, if they if they're first a bit hesitant to do it or
take the time with it, then that could be that could be a risk.
Have you views on opportunities in China changed at all recently?
Because we had some pretty good PMI numbers over the past couple of days.
Do you think all the bad news is in now and we're seeing some signs of a
turnaround? Yeah, certainly a lot of bad news.
I mean, if he is in the prison, if you look at the vet, what evaluation stands,
it's is about half the multiple that people
were willing to pay still four years ago.
You know, has that much changed? Is is that not a little bit too much so
you could see a bottoming here? And yeah, within it, certainly as I
mentioned in the short term, probably some of the more sort of traditional
sectors are, especially when when you see stabilization in the economy and the
PMIs do suggest that then then this is the place to invest.
All right happen to so head of APAC equities and credit at UBS Wealth
Management. Thanks so much for joining us.
Now let's just take a look at we're tracking the US Treasury space.
We did see yields rising across the curve on the back of that stronger than
expected ISM factory gate data out of the US.
We're still seeing some not not a great deal of movement.
A lot of that seems to have been priced in.
But also what was priced in was a rethink on what's going to happen next
with the Fed rate cut. Odds for June, well, they're now below
50%. So the expectation around what we're
going to see easing from the Fed that just keeps getting pushed on out for at
a deep dive into China's economy with society generale, the greater China
economists going to discuss risks to growth and why they see an uneven
recovery across sectors. Up next, though, our interview with the
Reserve Bank of Australia Assistant Governor Christopher Kent on the
nation's future framework for monetary policy.
This is Bloomberg.
Well, I was seeing some very modest gains for the ASX today.
Got a lot of stocks trading ex-dividend. So that might explain why it's kind of a
muted session. But there are a few standouts.
Treasury wine performing pretty well. And this is, of course, after China
removed its remaining trade strikes on Australian wine.
So this is the first opportunity that investors have had to react to that
news. Materials sector also performing pretty
well as we've seen a modest recovery in iron ore prices as well after some
reasonable data out of China. Energy, the other sector that's doing
pretty well in Australia right now, that's better by 7/10 of 1% if we take a
look at the Brent crude price there, that's finding a bit of support as well.
Oil's holding near a five month high. There's a few reasons for that.
We've got what appears to be an Israeli airstrike on Iran's embassy compound in
Syria. Israel's not claiming responsibility for
that, but that's threatening to ratchet up tensions in
the Middle East in that conflict around Gaza.
And we've also got the Opec+ meeting this week as well, where we're expecting
the cartel to carry on with some of its production curbs.
So we're seeing the yield on the ten year.
Meanwhile in Australia, that's not moving a great deal.
The Aussie dollar also not moving a great deal either.
We did hear from the RBA's Chris Kent right here in the studio a little bit
earlier on, not really holding the line that the RBA is having a Borbidge wave
when it comes to what to do next with rates in Australia.
And we'll have the RBA minutes coming up in a little while as well Heidi.
What to do next when it comes to the levels of the yen is one that's
compounding the same old currency problem, confounding Japanese
policymakers despite the start of a new fiscal year.
Right, Paul, We are hearing from the Japanese finance minister, Shinichi
Suzuki, speaking in Tokyo, saying that the refraining from providing specific
views when it comes to future effects moves that saying they're not determined
only by monetary policy, of course, referring to that divergence between the
BOJ and the Fed and therefore the yen and the dollar effect moves are
determined by various factors talking about that, it is important that those
moves are stable and reflect the fundamentals.
Excessive moves are undesirable. We have had heard this before, but the
authorities are watching the forex moves with a high sense of urgency and they're
not ruling out any options against affects moves that are deemed to be
excessive. There will be an appropriate response
taken, according to Finance Minister Suzuki speaking in Tokyo.
Now the refrained from providing specific view on future effects moves.
We also heard from the export chief how he Coca-Cola saying that the recent yen
weakness he sees is being excessive as well.
So we are an intervention watch. 152 to the yen is where markets see that
potentially kicking in. You can get a roundup of those stories
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Take a look at some of the movies that we're watching in just about 20 minutes
or so of trading in Japan and over in Korea.
Nippon Steel is one to watch. Was they upset about two and a half
percent Nippon Steel making what it calls a formal commitment to spending
and jobs to the United Steelworkers Union, backing up a pledge that it made
earlier as it looks to build support for that.
Some $14 billion acquisition of United States are still quotes have pledged no
layoffs before 2026 as part of this US steel bid.
So they've said that document formalizing those promises there.
We're also watching Rakuten. They've offered one and a quarter
billion dollars and a junk bond in return to you.
In their return, I should say, to the US market, $1.8 billion of notes were sold
in the US last January and they have been tapping markets to pay down debt.
The tech firm returning to that higher bond market with that one and a quarter
billion offering after what has been a strong rally in debt that it sold
earlier this year. Some of the other names that we're
watching there are Samsung Electronics. We've also seen Tokyo Electric Power in
Focus there as well. Japan's approved almost $4 billion in
subsidies to chip venture capitalists as it commits more money to playing catch
up in semiconductor manufacturing. For more on this, let's bring in our
executive editor for Asia Technology, Peter Ahlstrom in Tokyo.
Peter, you sure can't doubt that Japan's Japanese government's commitment to
this, but is 3.9 billion going to be enough to help make them a force in
advanced semiconductor manufacturing? Yeah, Japan is making some very
aggressive bets in the semiconductor industry.
It really comes in the wake of the COVID pandemic and some of the supply chain
shocks that we saw at the time. The country became quite determined to
rebuild some of the semiconductor capabilities it had domestically in the
past. And so there are a few different
ventures. There also are backing out fab here in
Japan from TSMC, the leading maker of sending doctors right now.
But this investment in rapid US is a bit more unusual.
Robby This is a very young company. It's less than two years old.
It's run by a group of local executives led by a former top executive at Tokyo
Electron, and it's really a long shot bid to be able to create another
foundry. So a company that will make custom made
chips for customers kind of the way that TSMC and Samsung do right now for
customers like Apple or in video for that matter.
So Robby does has not done this before. It's a very competitive market.
It will be competing against TSMC and they're trying to build a fab up in the
northern island of Hokkaido. So this $4 billion is going to go for
that construction effort. They're going to buy the equipment and
they're going to try to move towards being able to create a foundry that will
compete with some of the global leaders in this space.
And there's also subsidies at play for the likes of TSMC as well.
What is the government, given everything is trying to do, given that it's asked
for extra budget for this, What are they hoping to get for this investment?
Well, the investments that they're making in other places like with TSMC
and also with Micron are Kyushu is one of the local players too.
Those are a bit more older generations of chips.
So those are important for the automotive industry, which of course is
a cornerstone of the Japanese economy. That's quite important.
Rugby test is really more cutting edge. They want rugby just to be able to
create advanced semiconductors that could for for a variety of customers,
including some local customers that could help them compete in some of the
more cutting edge areas of technology, like artificial intelligence, like some
of these quantum computing, some of these areas where Japan has not been
able to produce chips in the past. And really, there are only a handful of
companies that can make chips that are so advanced.
TSMC in Taiwan is one of them. Samsung is really another one, but the
list is very, very short. So the fact that rapid as a company that
again is only about 18 months old could sort of leapfrog into that competition
and be a viable competitor is considered quite a long shot.
Executive editor for Asia Technology, Peter Ahlstrom there in Tokyo.
Will Bloomberg, opinion columnist and former New York Fed President Bill
Dudley says bank regulation should focus on preventing sudden and rapid
withdrawals rather than simply raising capital requirements.
He told us the era of social media and 24 hour banking mean deposit runs will
be much faster. Outflow rates much higher.
The regulators have been focusing on increasing capital and the biggest
banks. They have not been focusing on how to
deal with that contagion problem. We need to really build up the Fed's
lender of last resort function so it's credible to uninsured depositors so they
don't run. And one way to do that is to require
banks to pledge collateral to the window, to the discount window of the
Fed equal to all their running liabilities.
So if unrestricted voters know that's the case, they don't really have a
reason to run. It's the contagion issue that I think
was which was so striking and powerful that we need to address.
That was evident last March. A built you think the keys to answering
that question, they were at the Fed or they have sweat?
I'm thinking more about deposit insurance.
Is that something we need to change and maybe change quickly?
Well, you could raise deposit insurance, but that's first of all, I would require
congressional legislation. The other problem with deposit insurance
raising it is it basically increases what's called what's called moral
hazard. People are going to be less careful.
You know, we saw during the ethanol crisis that banks with lots of insured
deposits goes out and takes lots of lots of crazy risks.
So I think the addressing contagion through the window by reserve funds I
think is a better way to go to guard against that kind of risk taking.
We're talking about bank crises, and I'm just seeing equity markets at all time
highs and credit spreads of multi tides. How do you think this FOMC is thinking
about what's happening with financial conditions beyond just what they look
at, looking at equity markets, looking at high yield spreads?
Because when you hear the chairman talk about financial conditions, he says
they're tight. When you hear market participants talk
about them, though, they say something else.
I was surprised by his answer at the press conference.
The question about financial conditions, he didn't he really didn't really want
to talk about financial conditions where in the past he's talked about financial
patients a lot. And he actually implied that the
financial options were still tight. I don't see that stock market's up very
dramatically. Credit spreads are narrow, bond yields
are down, mortgage rates are down. Since the end of October, we've had a
dramatic easing of financial conditions. So right now, there's a bit of a battle
going on the long legs of monetary policy versus the easing of financial
conditions. And, you know, if you're trying to
figure out what the impulse of monetary policy right now is, you have to figure
out what the balance between those two things.
My personal opinion is monetary policy is not really exerting that much
restraint on the economy. And that's why the Fed has been on this
path of having to stay higher for longer.
And I think another aspect of it is that, you know, so-called are starting
to neutral monetary policy rates, probably higher than what the Fed Fed
officials are assuming. It's very interesting to me is the Fed
thinks that the federal funds rates can go all the way back to 2.6%.
That's an immediate projection in the long run.
But if you look at the market, expectations or interest rates are going
to go, they have them coming down about 3.6%.
So the 100 basis point gap between where the market thinks that the Fed is
heading, where the Fed thinks it's setting, and in this case, the Fed is
actually more optimistic about the scope for rate cuts over the next few years.
Michael Bloomberg, opinion columnist and former
New York Fed President Bill Dudley there speaking to Bloomberg's Jonathan Ferro.
Well, let's take a look at how we're tracking on some of the foreign exchange
markets that we follow. The Aussie dollar not a huge deal of
movement. The one that's really in focus today,
though, is the yen. Also, not a lot of movement, but at one
5166, it is hovering around 34 year lows and we're closely watching for
intervention. We've heard some more strong words from
the finance ministers, from the finance ministries, Suzuki, talking about how
they are watching these movements very, very closely Heidi.
And the yen weakened further off the back of that, stronger than expected
factory data out of the US. Paul, We have seen kind of markets
mostly trading range bound in this Tuesday session here in Asia.
Let's take a look at how futures in Europe are settling up at the moment.
We are seeing your stoxx 50 futures looking pretty flat.
German dax futures more or less the same.
Not a great deal of conviction there. We are seeing the potential upside when
it comes to european cyclicals, autos and banks potentially seeing more room
to outperform as we see this equity rally really becoming a little bit
broader. There has been increased optimism about
the macro scenario and the earnings backdrop in Europe there.
Much more to come here on day DAYBREAK. Asia.
This is Bloomberg.
We are getting some RBA minutes out there from the March meeting minutes and
the RBA saying it didn't consider the case for a rate rise in March, according
to those minutes, reiterating they will do what's necessary to hit that
inflation target. And interestingly, look, since then we
have had soft ish kind of CPI coming through from the February at least for
the headline number. There are some sort of seasonal factors
showing pretty solid outcomes there consistent with the expectation that
will continue to see broad disinflation as a trend.
But the minutes also indicating that the CPI is high but gradually returning to
target and it's not possible to rule in or out future changes to the cash rate.
Also talking about significant uncertainties, but that the risks remain
broadly balance that those minutes also referring to returning inflation to
target remaining the highest priority. And interestingly, the theme of
uncertainty, the inability to be able to rule in or out any measures in this
final leg of this monetary policy cycle is really key to what we heard from the
assistant governor, Christopher Kent, when he spoke earlier to us in Sydney.
The RBA, in the meantime, is also set to switch to a new framework for the
implementation of monetary policy. The Assistant Governor for financial
markets, Chris Kent, did outline those changes in a speech at Bloomberg's
Sydney offices and asked afterwards We asked him how those moves will help the
central bank streamline its operations. What we've announced today is a new
system for implementing monetary policy. What we'll be transitioning to in the
future. But I wanted to emphasize that really is
about the plumbing, the nuts and bolts of moving money around, about us
achieving our cash rate close to the cash rate target.
But it's not what that target is. What that target is, is it's monetary
policy. This isn't about monetary policy.
It's just how we achieve the target at any given time.
But it's also about responding to perhaps some of the imbalances within
the system structurally coming from the last few years.
Well, it's about responding to the running down of the very large level of
reserves. We call that excess reserves that are in
the system because we and other central banks pursued unconventional monetary
policy. So they put a lot of money in the bank
accounts. Those are gradually unwinding as that
bonds mature as the TFF gets repaid. So it's about looking to the future and
thinking about how what we need to do to survive.
What system we need to transition to when it comes to the moderation of that
balance sheet. Obviously, a lot of it will depend on
underlying demand. But do you have sort of an idea of scale
of timing of how that framework will play out?
No, we don't. And indeed, that's partly why we picked
the system we've picked. So what we've chosen is what we call a
full allotment allocation system at Omos.
That means the banks come to us and for a fixed price they can borrow reserves,
pledge collateral for 28 days at the moment, and they can take what they want
as long as they have sufficient collateral.
So what that's about what that means is the supply of reserves is going to
depend on the banks demand. The banks have their own estimates.
We could come up with some rough ones, but until we get there, we won't know.
But the it should transition fairly seamlessly from one of excess to ample,
and we'll know we're there when banks start showing up in larger numbers and
larger quantities at our operations on a weekly basis.
I think until we get there, we won't know.
Probably is a good phrase to describe a lot of aspects of what we're out at the
moment in terms of monetary policy. Upstairs, you asked, you know, a little
bit cheekily to give one word to describe monetary policy settings and
trajectory. I'm going to give you a few more words
if you want. Can you elaborate?
Yeah, I think the starting point is just to say that the board's made it clear
thinks the interest rate path that will best bring inflation down in a timely
manner is uncertain. And so they have not wanted to rule
anything in or out with regards to interest rate changes
where we're in a better place than we had been.
Inflation has come down a long way. It does look to be moderating, but the
path in, according to our forecasts, is a gradual moderation from here.
Labour market pressures, they're easing, they're still tight, but they're easing
and that's because growth slowing. And so that brings demand into a better
balance with supply. So all those things are in place.
Our central forecasts are sort of predicated on sort of further good
things happening, including productivity growth.
But there's a lot of uncertainties around that.
And I think the key point is those are reasonably well balanced as best we can
tell. And because of that, the path is
uncertain. The next rate change, I don't know if
it's higher, don't know if it's going to be a lower interest rate.
When you talk about the not being the inability to rule out shocks.
Right. How much of those risks do you worry
about that might be external, that might be geopolitical, You know, that might
be, you know, election driven the policies of other countries and how much
of it are sort of domestic, maybe structural macroeconomic aspects that
perhaps we haven't seen in the data sets yet?
I think it could be both. We just don't know.
But I mean, as a small open economy, we're always subject to developments
offshore. We've talked at length about what's
happening in China. China is a major export market for us,
and there are concerns they have about their property sector and the problems
that they're trying to deal with there. So that can have an impact on things
like the demand for commodities like iron ore and that can move our economy
around. But equally domestically, things can be
moved by what people here in the Australian economy are doing,
particularly households at the moment. How are they going to behave in the
future? That will sort of be a key,
key point for where the economy goes. Christopher Kent, the assistant governor
at the RBI, is speaking to us a little bit earlier.
Well, the assistant governor also spoke about the uncertainties coming from
China's slowdown. And there is a little bit of good news,
at least in the data. The factory activity number beating
expectations in March, boosting optimism about hitting that ambitious growth of
around 5% this year. Growth target, I should say.
Despite that pick up, though, in most subindex indexes in those PMI surveys,
economists are cautioning that it remains to be seen how sustainable the
rebound will be. Joining us now is Michelle Lam, who
who's a greater China economist at Societe Generale.
Michelle, great to have you with us. And we know that data in the first
couple of months of the year tends to be pretty patchy at the best of times, even
with new methodology. Are you confident that the corner has
turned for China's economy? I think judging from the March PMI data
and also the January February data, I think there is some signs of the economy
at least stabilizing or picking up. But I would say that they're there to do
so because of concerns, because, for example, if we look at the January
February data, it's true that industrial production,
the fixed asset investments, surprising to the upside.
But we if we look at the retail sales, I would say that the momentum is still
pretty sluggish, especially on this front.
And going back to the March PMI data, for example, if you look at
manufacturing new orders, it seems that the majority of the pickup was driven by
the new export orders. But for a domestic demand, I think
especially for consumption demand, it remains to be seen if it is really
starting to recover, more notably, especially if we consider what's
happening to the housing sector, which is still
decelerating at a stage. You talk about the sluggishness.
And I think the thing that I'm always watching is is confidence, Right?
Sentiment, the concern about the sort of the stagflation aspect of how households
might be feeling at the moment. Do you see any signs of that staging a
turn around? I think if you'd.
Unfortunately for economist there actually not a lot of data to really
gauge the consumer confidence. But I think some indicators that we look
at, for example, the house prices, they are still falling.
If you look at the ABS data and some other private sources, for example, if
you look at the stock market, I would say that perhaps things are starting to
stabilising. But but that's actually a big correction
that we've seen around the turn of the year.
So it really remains to be seen if we are really starting to view the
stabilisation of the economy impact and then to the household confidence.
And in terms of the wage growth, I think for the quarterly data, we only have the
fourth quarter data last year, which we do notice that the growth momentum has
still been pretty sluggish, especially for the urban citizens, competitive
rural citizens. And I would say that if we look at some
of the private data sources in terms of the rate gains,
such as the job recruitment data agency, it seems that the wage momentum is still
not very strong. The buyers to really see a big supports
to improvement in the consumption right now.
Michelle, do you think policy makers in China can claim vindication now for not
using that bazooka stimulus that we'd all become accustomed to?
So I think it depends on what you mean by the bazooka, for example, for the
monetary policy expectations. We do expect some of the policy rate
cuts that dribble out for the rest of the year.
Well, given the most obvious surprise, it could be the case that we could be
seeing this kind of stimulus coming at a later stage.
What it in the early stage, I think, for the property easing.
They've already sent some signals that there could be more demand easing coming
through. A couple of weeks ago.
So I think we could continue to be seeing some local government relaxing
the purchase restrictions even in the top tier cities and even a
mortgage interest rate cuts. But there's also a question of whether
we could see this translate into into a recovery in the housing sector.
I think for now, but a big bazooka, for example, like
a further insurance in the special CGP is I think the chances are much less
likely given the positive momentum we've seen for the first quarter.
We had a warning from Ray Dalio this week that if China doesn't get on top of
its debt, it's facing the risk of a lost decade.
Do you have any thoughts on that? I think it's true.
But I think at the same time, the government is sending some signal that
it is tackling that issue, for example. But a central government at APEC, they
decide it is Mogadishu issuance of special SGB, who tried to open a new
door to support the financing of the key strategic project.
So I think it also allows some room for the local governments and the local
government financing vehicles to cut back the doubts.
But I think more importantly, to try to do some structural reforms to really
unleash the demand of the consumption. And I think even if we talk about
financing more infrastructure projects, that's not going to really increase the
share of consumption in the overall economy.
So I think that's what the policymakers we need to focus about, which is to try
to make some reforms to this acute national security systems, maybe reduce
some of the payments even temporarily to in to improve their consumer confidence.
And I think that's really most important, vital for us to product
consumption demand right now. All right, Michelle Lam, Greater China
economist at Society. General, thanks so much for joining us.
Still to come, we're going to have a preview of Tesla's first quarter
deliveries and hear why some analysts are expecting a first sales decline in
four years. This is Bloomberg.
The board's made it clear he thinks the interest rate path
that will best bring inflation down in a timely manner is uncertain.
And so they have not wanted to rule anything in or out with regards to
interest rate changes. That is Christopher Cairns, assistant
governor at the RBA, speaking to us earlier.
Let's just check in on how markets are tracking at the moment.
Here in Australia they're kind of going sideways at the moment, just some very
modest gains. A lot of stocks trading ex-dividend
today which might be weighing on sentiment.
Just a little Treasury wines, low performing pretty strongly after, of
course, just before the long weekend, China lifted its trade strikes on
Australian wine. The Nikkei having another good day, but
that's going to be in sharp focus as well as we keep an eye on potential yen
intervention. The Ministry of Finance has been making
its usual noises about that today. The cost be at the moment looking kind
of flat. We're also watching Japanese chip makers
at the moment. We had a little bit more news from the
government today. It's going to give a further $3.9
billion in subsidies to its chip venture tests.
So committing more money to Japan's ambitions to catch up and semiconductor
manufacturing, you see that rising tide lifts all boats.
There are some of those semiconductor names in Japan performing a pretty well
at the moment. Well, let's talk about Tesla releasing
its first quarter delivery results this week.
Some analysts are expecting the first sales decline in four years as demand
for EVs and elevated interest rates takes a toll.
For more on this, let's bring in our global business editor, Peter Vercoe.
So, Peter, tell us some a little bit more about the reason for the slowdown
in Tesla sales. Yeah, hi, Paul.
Heidi. Well, what we're really seeing is that
Tesla is being caught up in a broader slowdown in the EV market
than being a pure evil manufacturer. It doesn't have other models to fall
back on, say, the way the likes of GM or the Toyota does.
Just in the last few weeks, we've seen Ford slash the prices of its Mustang
Mach-e. Rivian is also cutting prices of its
SUV. And even Apple has pulled out of its Ivy
project that it's more at stake there. So it looks like the heavy boom that we
saw in the last few years may have peaked just for now.
Still, it's not all doom and gloom. Bloomberg Any EV forecasts that EV sales
globally will still rise 22% this year. In fact, that's down from the 30% growth
that we saw last year. So a bit of a slowdown and a lot of that
growth is coming from China, which is a much more competitive landscape than,
say, the US, where Tesla does a lot of its business.
It's a huge market for Tesla, but as you say, they've increased prices there at a
time when there's aggressive discounting more than ever, in fact, from local
carmakers. Yeah, and we're particularly seeing that
with Bhiwadi. Bhiwadi has gone on an aggressive price
cutting round already this year. Its popular SIEGEL Hatch is now less
than the equivalent of 10,000 USD in the China market.
And just overnight, Bhiwadi reported that its March sales are up 46% year on
year. So it's really just going from strength
to strength. So that's making it hard not just for
Tesla but for other Ivy players in China.
Then you've got new competitors coming into the Chinese market as well.
We saw Jeremy last week come in with its new SUV and it's selling for starting
around 30,000 USD. The Model Y in China starts at 50,000
USD. So again, that's a huge gap for Tesla to
make up. And so interesting, what we've also seen
in China in the last couple of weeks is Tesla trimming production at its
Shanghai factory. Doesn't often happen by making workers
work a shorter week. And then really interestingly, in the
last weeks of March, it flagged a price increase that took effect yesterday.
And that does really seem to be an attempt to try and pump up sales in the
dying days of the first quarter. Global business in Asia.
Ed, are the other corporate stories that we're tracking this hour and Bloomberg
is that Tesla boosted head count by 86% last year in Austin, Texas.
The firm now has over 22,700 employees in the region, where Tesla churns out
its model. Y's and Cybertruck's sufficiently makes
Elon Musk Austin's largest private employer.
Texas is home to multiple Musk firms, including a Tesla Gigafactory and the
launch site for Space X. Citigroup is said to have implemented a
fresh round of job cuts in the US investment bank last week.
Sources say technology, media and telecom were among the coverage areas
hit the hardest, with senior bankers and junior roles affected.
The cuts come as Citigroup says it has concluded the major actions around its
reorganization plan. McKinsey is offering nine months pay and
career coaching services to some UK staff who would like to leave.
The move comes after the firm earlier warned some US consultants that they
were running out of time to win promotions.
McKinsey and its peers have trimmed headcount and slowed the.
Pace of hiring over the past year as demands from clients decline.
Nippon Steel has made a formal commitment to spending and jobs to the
United Steelworkers Union. The agreement includes an extra $1.4
billion in capital spending, as well as a promise of no layoffs before 2026.
Nippon Steel's new president has pledged to press ahead with the takeover.
That is despite opposition led by President Biden, who says U.S.
Steel should be American owned. Be sure to tune into Bloomberg Radio to
hear more from the day's big newsmakers and get in-depth analysis there from the
day break. A team broadcasting live from our studio
in Hong Kong. You can listen in via the app.
That's Radio Plus on Bloomberg Radio.com.
More ahead. This is Bloomberg.
We're counting down to the market opens in mainland China and Hong Kong on the
earnings front. Gojo motors 2023 numbers are due out on
Tuesday. Bloomberg Intelligence is the company
posting 70% profit and revenue growth year on year.
Let's get more from our senior analyst as Ali and the multi is always
interesting, right in terms of being a commercial consumer bellwether.
And given the weakness that we've seen in consumer sentiment, what are we
expecting? Absolutely.
So we are expecting 17% growth in his sales, which will drive the sales to
about ¥150 billion this year. This is actually ahead of a management
target of 15% growth this year. And then what boils down to then is a
17% growth in earnings this year as well.
And this is actually a very robust set of results that we're expecting, given
that the consumer sentiment is actually quite depressed at the moment.
So I'd never mind the consumer sentiment being depressed.
Analysts still really like the stock. I think it's something like 51 buys.
So where's the enthusiasm coming from? I think is the fact that the company
managed to develop consensus to deliver a consistent result in terms of its
sales as well as earnings. So if you look at its gross margin, it
is at industry high of 92%. I really don't think you can see any
other companies with that type of gross margin.
Its operating margin is also very healthy and with the opportunity to
further expand going forward, what we are looking for in the set of result in
particular is actually is direct to consumer sales contribution because that
is one of the key driver for gross margin going forward.
You talked about expansion and certainly in terms of product market and the
demographic expansion, Multa has been working a lot on that, particularly when
it comes to enticing younger consumers, right?
How much of that effort is paying off? We've seen a lot of collaborations.
Know chocolate lines. There's even a showroom here in Sydney.
Yes. So they have been very, very busy over
the past year in terms of both product and channel development on product side,
like you have mentioned. They have got some chocolate.
They have alcoholic lathi recently in March, they're also announced some
sparkling wine and blueberry sparkling wine.
And then end of last year, they announced a collaboration with one of
the most popular artists in Asia, Jay Chao, in collaboration to develop some
mosquito product. So on product side, they are really
trying to tap into the younger market as well as what I would normally call the
XI economy, which is the ladies for the sparkling wine, as well as some of the
cocktail mixes on the channel side. Is there development in terms of direct
to consumer sales that I've previously mentioned?
And this includes the apps such as I Maotai, which is actually growing
substantially since since its launch, as well as other products such as WeChat,
mini apps, as well as they even have a metaverse to be honest.
So they are trying in every aspect to rejuvenate their brand and to make it
more younger and trendier for the younger population.
All right. Bloomberg Intelligence senior analyst A2
Lee there on those that kweichow moutai earnings, which we'll get later today.
Time to check some of the stocks to watch when markets open in hong kong and
mainland china. So keep an eye on chinese EV stocks.
This is after NIO announced a boost in its deliveries for March.
Meanwhile, its peers BYD, Geely Auto and Great Wall Motor all reported a rise in
their March vehicle sales. And Asian Tesla supplies are going to be
back in focus. Analysts are rapidly lowering their
projections for this week's deliveries report from Tesla.
Some expect to see a first decline since the early days of the pandemic.
Well, that is it from DAYBREAK. Asia markets coverage does continue as
we look ahead to the start of trade in Hong Kong, Shanghai and Shenzhen, China,
show up next. This is Bloomberg.
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